Similar Micro 9, BUT . . . FN Reflex vs Springfield Hellcat
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@MOOCH1808 ай бұрын
Thank you. The comparison I was waiting for ✊
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
We hope it helps you make your decision.
@Stormtrooper_Accuracy8 ай бұрын
Ahh, I remember you mentioned that issue with the Reflex's magazine in a prior video. I see you addressed it, well done sir.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you - it did surprise me to have to deal with that, FN usually has great ergonomics.
@Disastrous.Affect6 ай бұрын
Excellent review.👍 I have both pistols as well, they are similar enough in size that the Reflex can be used with the Kydex holster for the Hellcat that I have. The Reflex has taken over as my EDC, in fact I like this pistol so much I bought 3. Originally could not find an MRD, so I bought a non optics first. Then I got both the FDE & black MRD versions. For me, the hammer fired trigger just works better than a striker fired trigger. I absolutely love these pistols and the main one I carry I have gotten around 500 rounds through it with no issues. The one I've had the longest easily has 750 through it and I only had issues on the first range trip, and I put 300 through it. I did not clean it out of the box, I took it down and thought it looked clean, but bone dry. So I lubed it and went to the range. After about 150 to 200 rounds, I started having failure to return to battery on several occasions and had to bump the back of the slide. When I got home gave it a good cleaning and not a single issue since. The other two I cleaned before the range & they have never had a failure. So maybe there was some packing grease or something I missed.🤷♂
@AAA22323
3 ай бұрын
How has the Reflex held up? Do you carry it? Any rust ?
@Disastrous.Affect
3 ай бұрын
@@AAA22323 I do carry it daily, and I have not had any issues. But I am not the most abusive out there. I don't get into many dirty situations any more. In fact, going to the range is probably the dirtiest I get, and the dirtiest the gun gets.🤷♂ The one I carry definitely gets the most range time, no sense wearing out all 3. But other than 300 to 400 down range in a month, it doesn't get that dirty from carrying.
@lizzapaolia9598 ай бұрын
Another interesting review of yours. My husband and I thoroughly enjoy your informative reviews. We hope you review the HK micro compact when it's released tentatively in 2024. Thank you again 🙏
@HammerStriker
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. We will definitely be watching for it. HK makes excellent pistols.
@LUVDOGS19548 ай бұрын
I appreciate the objective analysis, as much as any review can be objective. Thank you.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@ravendon8 ай бұрын
Been hearing about the FN Reflex shooting to the lower left.
@dtrain3219
7 ай бұрын
Not true
@RickyVsWorld
7 ай бұрын
That guy shoots low left with every gun lol
@marsiloficino5060
7 ай бұрын
Check the barrel twist
@gregdownend3604
6 ай бұрын
@@dtrain3219 yes i've heard it does as well. Very many guntubers have made videos confirming this. I was originally interested in the Reflex. but not buying unless FN addresses the issue.
@ivanbliminse5350
5 ай бұрын
You'll see the same thing with hellcats. Right handed shooters tend to do that with micros
@bobscar3278 ай бұрын
Good video, great channel. Keep up the good work mr.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@EricQuinnАй бұрын
I chose the Hellcat...and I find its accuracy, comfort and its reliability rocks. I have put about 700 round through mine with no issues.
@davidroderick14937 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you for the indept trigger comparison.
@nicholasridiculous34886 ай бұрын
Awesome video as usual. Thank you
@steven33798 ай бұрын
Sorry, if I have/had to get a "grip sleeve".... I bought the WRONG damn gun. Or I'm to darn picky! 😂
@mdubb4855
8 ай бұрын
“If I have to add a grip sleeve” …. They are good for Mexican carry, anti slip; good if the handle texture is so aggressive it tears up skin and clothing; good if you use the same model pistol for carry (no extra grip to preserve maximum thinness) and home defense (fatter grip).
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
@@mdubb4855 I'd never carry a gun like that without a holster.
@mdubb4855
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar snap on trigger cover
@Billy-hx3zi
4 ай бұрын
@@mdubb4855what is “Mexican carry”? Lol
@nealgold84428 ай бұрын
Great video and very informative.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@alvolante41648 ай бұрын
U notch sights are great
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
I love the U notch sights. I carry a Hellcat Pro
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar Mine is an XD-M Elite OSP 10mm compact.
@BLINC606
6 ай бұрын
I prefer 3 dot for sure. It’s funny how Glock sights got shit on for years and years.
@ricklarence77518 ай бұрын
Had the exact same issue with the magazine corner digging into my palm. Loved except for that
@tchin20207 ай бұрын
I’m not into the technical information when I have to use a gun for self defense (I’m not going to pause and analyze why I bought the gun), when I first shot the gun at my range, and I don’t generally like polymer handguns, my edc is the Kimber micro-9 and SW Shield 45, BUT, when I shot the FN Reflex at the range, the the GRIP and TRIGGER PULL, sold me right away, groupings at 10 yds was right on…I tried the hellcat and wasn’t satisfied with the ergonomics of the gun. The FN Reflex Grip and trigger pull is what sold me…btw, I added a hogue sleeve and “oh boy” what a grip….
@armedrebellion478 ай бұрын
Pinky extensions are very much needed when carrying or operating subcompact guns.
@crabbyturtle1594
8 ай бұрын
Pinky extensions are unnecessary for a carry weapon. With training you’ll find it’s not needed for full support.
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
@@crabbyturtle1594 - NOT TRUE! Depends on size of ones hand. The pistol will be easier and better to control with a longer grip for the little finger to hold it.
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar You shouldn't be squeezing with the little finger anyway. That's the main reason why people so often shoot low and left.
@erictrippe2778
7 ай бұрын
I don't have pinky fingers.
@zyzzuschrist34108 ай бұрын
Can you compare the Reflex to the p365.?
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
It's on our list to do.
@peopleperson7263
8 ай бұрын
@@HammerStrikerI’m very curious about this comparison - some have said thickness is the same between FN and sig, others have said FN is ever so slightly thicker - idk if it’s much of a difference. Great videos as always . I plan to either get the FN or the Hk when it comes out.
@mikedgg28 ай бұрын
The Reflex is a really nice color
@rosemarsili91598 ай бұрын
I'm strongly considering purchasing a Reflex since I've heard good things about it, particularly with regard to shootability and ease of racking. I've tried the Hellcat three times and hated it each time, but I love the P365 pistols and the S&W CSX. How does the Reflex compare to the P365 or even the Shield Plus?
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
9 mil ridge did a video of the p365 vs reflex and it seemed to me he liked the fn more but you can watch it your self not the best video on the internet but
@Asidebar7 ай бұрын
Both nice pistols.
@johnmacera1675Ай бұрын
Did u shave down the extractor in the fn flex 9mm
@chevyvega66228 ай бұрын
almost bought the fn until i saw what happens to the fn when the slide does not come all the way back.....garbage..no wonder there are so many for sale on broker sites...bought the hellcat fde instead
@jackbauer90778 ай бұрын
Ive owned both and I kept the FN hellcat had to go, it’s recoil just seems worse. Love the feel of the grip on FN and love the trigger. But both good guns.
@erictrippe2778
7 ай бұрын
You kept the FN hellcat?
@nate.hanlon7 ай бұрын
is there a reliability difference in an internal hammer fire vs striker fire
@stonebat7 ай бұрын
I like apex t3 + stainless steel striker sleeve for hellcat fn reflex has the innovative internal hammer. but slide must be cycled all the way back.l each time. imagine having front heavy aftermarket accessories on it. what if it affects cycle battery? also unlike 1911, can’t tell whether it’s loaded or not I prefer hellcat’s proven records
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
the slide is much easier to pull back on the fn and hopefully if you conceal carry you already have a round loaded up so i wouldn’t say there’s any reason for it to not go into battery
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
i’ve never went off the little thing sticking up or whatever sayin a gun is loaded i always and i think everyone should pull the slide back and look them selves.
@lousquitieri42345 ай бұрын
I went with the hellcat. I prefer a manual safety AIWB
@doubletap35248 ай бұрын
Does the FN Not have a back removable plate to take out the firing pin ??
@Inkushu
7 ай бұрын
It’s internal hammer fired so likely has a roll pin in the slide to take out the firing pin and firing pin block
@KendallJenner-rn4cs2 ай бұрын
Csn j buy this s one avs both of tgesd also Jefferson county police department
@chad_83138 ай бұрын
Springfield Armory funded gun control legislation in Illinois, but blamed a PR firm when caught. So with that in mind, never Springfield Armory. But what else do you expect from an importer than bought an iconic name?
@lablepac
7 ай бұрын
Interesting.... I did not know that. Thank you for that information.
@rockie307
7 ай бұрын
Springfield is arming American citizens there actions speak louder then your words. I'm guessing you don't mind using KZread, Walmart, Facebook, Apple, the big banks and all kinds of other products from companies who have done much worse. It's funny how most people only boycott what's convenient.
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@lablepac It's not true. The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), of which Springfield was a member, agreed to support one gun bill for concessions in other areas. Springfield left the organization and made a statement denouncing the action. Some people just like spreading rumors and lies.
@manonfire36428 ай бұрын
Price makes them undesirable. They are in a competitive market but are maintaining a financial crevice that no one will cross when there are others just as reliable but more, quite a bit more, inexpensive.
@bbazzracing
8 ай бұрын
Like what. Don't say Taurus GX4 or Canik Mete. They are unreliable. You may or may not get one that works. Not worth my life. Maybe a Shield Plus but that gun is bigger and heavier
@planofman8599
8 ай бұрын
To add to what the other person said, the Diamondback DB9 is smaller and much cheaper. However, the owner of that particular pistol said it needed to be cleaned weekly in order to be reliable. Generally, when comparing firearms of similar size and performance, price is dictated by a number of factors, one of which is quality. Say what you will about the Hellcat, HS Produkt manufacturers every part of all their firearms in one place. That gives them complete control of quality. They also have a lifetime warranty on the pistols, and it follows the pistol to second-hand owners. I know Taurus has a similar lifetime warranty. Maybe you would suggest the Mossberg, which many other reviewers mention 'rattles like a maraca," and that is not the most reassuring thing to hear.
@newy219
7 ай бұрын
@@bbazzracingCanik rushed the MC9, why do you think the GX4 is unreliable? Taurus’s G series seems to be pretty good. No?
@bbazzracing
7 ай бұрын
@@newy219 do your googles about the gx4 lots of people have issues with. Trigger, striker, feeding issues. And there is a recall.
@newy219
7 ай бұрын
@@bbazzracing yeah if you Google enough all guns will have that, I’ve heard plenty of people say the exact opposite. Then again I agree you typically pay for what you get and it won’t go through the same level of quality control. Which is why I’m considering switching from my GX4 (which wasn’t in the recall).
Пікірлер: 73
Thank you. The comparison I was waiting for ✊
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
We hope it helps you make your decision.
Ahh, I remember you mentioned that issue with the Reflex's magazine in a prior video. I see you addressed it, well done sir.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you - it did surprise me to have to deal with that, FN usually has great ergonomics.
Excellent review.👍 I have both pistols as well, they are similar enough in size that the Reflex can be used with the Kydex holster for the Hellcat that I have. The Reflex has taken over as my EDC, in fact I like this pistol so much I bought 3. Originally could not find an MRD, so I bought a non optics first. Then I got both the FDE & black MRD versions. For me, the hammer fired trigger just works better than a striker fired trigger. I absolutely love these pistols and the main one I carry I have gotten around 500 rounds through it with no issues. The one I've had the longest easily has 750 through it and I only had issues on the first range trip, and I put 300 through it. I did not clean it out of the box, I took it down and thought it looked clean, but bone dry. So I lubed it and went to the range. After about 150 to 200 rounds, I started having failure to return to battery on several occasions and had to bump the back of the slide. When I got home gave it a good cleaning and not a single issue since. The other two I cleaned before the range & they have never had a failure. So maybe there was some packing grease or something I missed.🤷♂
@AAA22323
3 ай бұрын
How has the Reflex held up? Do you carry it? Any rust ?
@Disastrous.Affect
3 ай бұрын
@@AAA22323 I do carry it daily, and I have not had any issues. But I am not the most abusive out there. I don't get into many dirty situations any more. In fact, going to the range is probably the dirtiest I get, and the dirtiest the gun gets.🤷♂ The one I carry definitely gets the most range time, no sense wearing out all 3. But other than 300 to 400 down range in a month, it doesn't get that dirty from carrying.
Another interesting review of yours. My husband and I thoroughly enjoy your informative reviews. We hope you review the HK micro compact when it's released tentatively in 2024. Thank you again 🙏
@HammerStriker
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. We will definitely be watching for it. HK makes excellent pistols.
I appreciate the objective analysis, as much as any review can be objective. Thank you.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Been hearing about the FN Reflex shooting to the lower left.
@dtrain3219
7 ай бұрын
Not true
@RickyVsWorld
7 ай бұрын
That guy shoots low left with every gun lol
@marsiloficino5060
7 ай бұрын
Check the barrel twist
@gregdownend3604
6 ай бұрын
@@dtrain3219 yes i've heard it does as well. Very many guntubers have made videos confirming this. I was originally interested in the Reflex. but not buying unless FN addresses the issue.
@ivanbliminse5350
5 ай бұрын
You'll see the same thing with hellcats. Right handed shooters tend to do that with micros
Good video, great channel. Keep up the good work mr.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
I chose the Hellcat...and I find its accuracy, comfort and its reliability rocks. I have put about 700 round through mine with no issues.
Thank you thank you for the indept trigger comparison.
Awesome video as usual. Thank you
Sorry, if I have/had to get a "grip sleeve".... I bought the WRONG damn gun. Or I'm to darn picky! 😂
@mdubb4855
8 ай бұрын
“If I have to add a grip sleeve” …. They are good for Mexican carry, anti slip; good if the handle texture is so aggressive it tears up skin and clothing; good if you use the same model pistol for carry (no extra grip to preserve maximum thinness) and home defense (fatter grip).
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
@@mdubb4855 I'd never carry a gun like that without a holster.
@mdubb4855
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar snap on trigger cover
@Billy-hx3zi
4 ай бұрын
@@mdubb4855what is “Mexican carry”? Lol
Great video and very informative.
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
U notch sights are great
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
I love the U notch sights. I carry a Hellcat Pro
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar Mine is an XD-M Elite OSP 10mm compact.
@BLINC606
6 ай бұрын
I prefer 3 dot for sure. It’s funny how Glock sights got shit on for years and years.
Had the exact same issue with the magazine corner digging into my palm. Loved except for that
I’m not into the technical information when I have to use a gun for self defense (I’m not going to pause and analyze why I bought the gun), when I first shot the gun at my range, and I don’t generally like polymer handguns, my edc is the Kimber micro-9 and SW Shield 45, BUT, when I shot the FN Reflex at the range, the the GRIP and TRIGGER PULL, sold me right away, groupings at 10 yds was right on…I tried the hellcat and wasn’t satisfied with the ergonomics of the gun. The FN Reflex Grip and trigger pull is what sold me…btw, I added a hogue sleeve and “oh boy” what a grip….
Pinky extensions are very much needed when carrying or operating subcompact guns.
@crabbyturtle1594
8 ай бұрын
Pinky extensions are unnecessary for a carry weapon. With training you’ll find it’s not needed for full support.
@Asidebar
7 ай бұрын
@@crabbyturtle1594 - NOT TRUE! Depends on size of ones hand. The pistol will be easier and better to control with a longer grip for the little finger to hold it.
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar You shouldn't be squeezing with the little finger anyway. That's the main reason why people so often shoot low and left.
@erictrippe2778
7 ай бұрын
I don't have pinky fingers.
Can you compare the Reflex to the p365.?
@HammerStriker
8 ай бұрын
It's on our list to do.
@peopleperson7263
8 ай бұрын
@@HammerStrikerI’m very curious about this comparison - some have said thickness is the same between FN and sig, others have said FN is ever so slightly thicker - idk if it’s much of a difference. Great videos as always . I plan to either get the FN or the Hk when it comes out.
The Reflex is a really nice color
I'm strongly considering purchasing a Reflex since I've heard good things about it, particularly with regard to shootability and ease of racking. I've tried the Hellcat three times and hated it each time, but I love the P365 pistols and the S&W CSX. How does the Reflex compare to the P365 or even the Shield Plus?
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
9 mil ridge did a video of the p365 vs reflex and it seemed to me he liked the fn more but you can watch it your self not the best video on the internet but
Both nice pistols.
Did u shave down the extractor in the fn flex 9mm
almost bought the fn until i saw what happens to the fn when the slide does not come all the way back.....garbage..no wonder there are so many for sale on broker sites...bought the hellcat fde instead
Ive owned both and I kept the FN hellcat had to go, it’s recoil just seems worse. Love the feel of the grip on FN and love the trigger. But both good guns.
@erictrippe2778
7 ай бұрын
You kept the FN hellcat?
is there a reliability difference in an internal hammer fire vs striker fire
I like apex t3 + stainless steel striker sleeve for hellcat fn reflex has the innovative internal hammer. but slide must be cycled all the way back.l each time. imagine having front heavy aftermarket accessories on it. what if it affects cycle battery? also unlike 1911, can’t tell whether it’s loaded or not I prefer hellcat’s proven records
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
the slide is much easier to pull back on the fn and hopefully if you conceal carry you already have a round loaded up so i wouldn’t say there’s any reason for it to not go into battery
@nate.hanlon
7 ай бұрын
i’ve never went off the little thing sticking up or whatever sayin a gun is loaded i always and i think everyone should pull the slide back and look them selves.
I went with the hellcat. I prefer a manual safety AIWB
Does the FN Not have a back removable plate to take out the firing pin ??
@Inkushu
7 ай бұрын
It’s internal hammer fired so likely has a roll pin in the slide to take out the firing pin and firing pin block
Csn j buy this s one avs both of tgesd also Jefferson county police department
Springfield Armory funded gun control legislation in Illinois, but blamed a PR firm when caught. So with that in mind, never Springfield Armory. But what else do you expect from an importer than bought an iconic name?
@lablepac
7 ай бұрын
Interesting.... I did not know that. Thank you for that information.
@rockie307
7 ай бұрын
Springfield is arming American citizens there actions speak louder then your words. I'm guessing you don't mind using KZread, Walmart, Facebook, Apple, the big banks and all kinds of other products from companies who have done much worse. It's funny how most people only boycott what's convenient.
@StevenRogers-hw9dj
7 ай бұрын
@@lablepac It's not true. The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), of which Springfield was a member, agreed to support one gun bill for concessions in other areas. Springfield left the organization and made a statement denouncing the action. Some people just like spreading rumors and lies.
Price makes them undesirable. They are in a competitive market but are maintaining a financial crevice that no one will cross when there are others just as reliable but more, quite a bit more, inexpensive.
@bbazzracing
8 ай бұрын
Like what. Don't say Taurus GX4 or Canik Mete. They are unreliable. You may or may not get one that works. Not worth my life. Maybe a Shield Plus but that gun is bigger and heavier
@planofman8599
8 ай бұрын
To add to what the other person said, the Diamondback DB9 is smaller and much cheaper. However, the owner of that particular pistol said it needed to be cleaned weekly in order to be reliable. Generally, when comparing firearms of similar size and performance, price is dictated by a number of factors, one of which is quality. Say what you will about the Hellcat, HS Produkt manufacturers every part of all their firearms in one place. That gives them complete control of quality. They also have a lifetime warranty on the pistols, and it follows the pistol to second-hand owners. I know Taurus has a similar lifetime warranty. Maybe you would suggest the Mossberg, which many other reviewers mention 'rattles like a maraca," and that is not the most reassuring thing to hear.
@newy219
7 ай бұрын
@@bbazzracingCanik rushed the MC9, why do you think the GX4 is unreliable? Taurus’s G series seems to be pretty good. No?
@bbazzracing
7 ай бұрын
@@newy219 do your googles about the gx4 lots of people have issues with. Trigger, striker, feeding issues. And there is a recall.
@newy219
7 ай бұрын
@@bbazzracing yeah if you Google enough all guns will have that, I’ve heard plenty of people say the exact opposite. Then again I agree you typically pay for what you get and it won’t go through the same level of quality control. Which is why I’m considering switching from my GX4 (which wasn’t in the recall).