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@channel_lurker

Жыл бұрын

Link the chan tread! :D

@Caddy666

Жыл бұрын

sigmar was the barbarian in heroquest.

@GameLover45408

Жыл бұрын

Dear PancreasNoWork, please do one on on Belegar Ironhand and Thorgrimm Grudgebearer.

@Dahlem-Nar

Жыл бұрын

Day 5 of asking for do or don’t Soulblight Gravelords

@Nightsmith_After_Dark

Жыл бұрын

congrats on the slurs

*"Tremble, for now I wield the Warhammer Fantasy."* -Sigmar

@Crimson_Fist

Жыл бұрын

He didn't say that. The direct quote is: "Thank you, master dwarf. Now I can finally begin my Warhammer Fantasy Battle!"

@nazoj6462

Жыл бұрын

This truly is the age of sigmar of all time

@MugiwaraZero

Жыл бұрын

*"Tremble, for now I wield the Warhammer 40,000."* -Big E

@fildariusv7045

7 ай бұрын

​@@MugiwaraZeroNo no no, wrong wrong, Big E really said "Finally, I have acquired the 40,000 Warhammers, now, to find James and his Workshop

@sovietunion7643

7 ай бұрын

sigmar after defeating Ka'Bandha during the end times after nagash failed to beat demon, and nagash turns to sigmar and says "this really is the age of sigmar"

When you are 15 minutes into trying to help humanity stop chaos from destroying the world and Mannfred gives you that back-stabbing stare

@boomer310

Жыл бұрын

The I’m done working with the heroes villain stare

@andrewwright7495

Жыл бұрын

Backstabbing rizz

@Historyfrek4ever

Жыл бұрын

When some random bloodsucker is less reliable than Nagash. Seriously why did Nagash bring this guy back and not the f-ing Vlad.

@Illier1

Жыл бұрын

Mannfred achieved Skaven levels of treachery.

@captaintitus4637

Жыл бұрын

@@Illier1 even skaven have some standards

Fun fact: The term Sigma male actually comes from this guy, not from the Greek letter.

@zalekvoris1517

Жыл бұрын

Sigmar male

@Bluecho4

Жыл бұрын

Etymologically, it's a degradation of the term "Sigmar Male".

@Sigmar_Heldenhammer

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah bro.

@robertspeedwagon982

Жыл бұрын

The removed the "R" because no one was based enough to be called using Sigmar's name

@LOL-zu1zr

Жыл бұрын

Ooga booga see chaos smash chaos cheer

You did it Sigmar.. you really are the Warhammer Fantasy

@Pieguy223

Жыл бұрын

the master chief never said that

@Overcrox

Жыл бұрын

“Nurgle…” - Nurgle

@mortarion9813

Жыл бұрын

​@@Pieguy223 Wdym, it was one of the most iconic quotes of the first game. Right beside when Captain Keyes said 'Congratulations, Master Chief. You really have made Combat Evolve.'

@BR0984

Жыл бұрын

What meme is that from again?

@joman2622

Жыл бұрын

@@Overcrox this made me laugh much more than it should have

Big E: "I have created the perfect warrior through science and magic, they shall know no fear" Sigmar: "hold my mead"

@DogseatDogs

Жыл бұрын

Stormcasts do know fear, most of them just have the maturity to face it.

@goingforgold_8536

Жыл бұрын

​@@DogseatDogs That's fair, I just wanted to be funny-joke-man

@d.n5287

Жыл бұрын

​@@DogseatDogs what is better? To be born blind and deaf to fear or to overcome with great effort.

@someguy4405

Жыл бұрын

Sigmarines are stupid and always have been.

@seekingabsolution1907

Жыл бұрын

@@DogseatDogs ok but I'm not convinced the space marines can't feel fear. Half of them certainly have a tendency to betray the imperium literally every time their position in its hierarchy seems threatened which sounds like a fear of loss of power. A fear of being forgotten, a fear of being replaced. Seems like turning fear into disgust doesn't actually stop it from being fear it just has the same effect with slightly more efficiency.

Sigmar is basically if Conan the Barbarian ascended to godhood and was knowledgeable enough to actually control such power. He is absolutely based for essentially being a Germanic Barbarian

@saltyshackles5227

Жыл бұрын

Conan who took Croms job.

@melaninfarmer

Жыл бұрын

The Ubermensch.

@secretname2670

Жыл бұрын

Conan was quite wise and smart you know.

@saltyshackles5227

Жыл бұрын

@@secretname2670 I'm still dreaming Arny will do a King Conan movie.

@Predator20357

Жыл бұрын

@@secretname2670 as in, he knows how to use the magic powers, not that he’s stupid.

One of the most interesting facts about Sigmar is that he still worships Ulric in the Mortal Realms. Despite being a god himself, and Ulric dying in End Times. What it really boils down to isn't so much a rational thing as Sigmar essentially just hoping there's some sort of a power even higher than him out there, because who does a God turn to when he is troubled and needs guidance? He doesn't even know if anything is hearing his prayers, he just hoping someone is.

@weggygaygay9940

Жыл бұрын

His prayers were answered by games workshop in the form of more chaos wins

@christopherbravo1813

Жыл бұрын

I think it'd be amazing if Sigmar did eventually ascend further in the way he's been wanting to and found Ulric there waiting for his arrival.

@giacomoromano8842

9 ай бұрын

​@@christopherbravo1813imagine how hilarious it would be for Ulric to have ascended to an even higher level of godhood and then temporarily come back down to smack talk Teclis. "The age of gods is over uh, you pointy eared pillow biter!? Lick my hairy wolfish ass nerd!"

@JustSomeDude42

6 ай бұрын

@@christopherbravo1813I’ve got the quintessential bro hand shake meme, the one with biceps for weeks, in my head at the thought of Ulric and Sigmar being buddies until the end.

@dragondeeznutts

5 ай бұрын

He can turn to the fantasy warhammer , or the 40,000 warhammers

I read the Black Library omnibus on Sigmar and I can't remember the tribe, but the matriarch of one of the human tribes basically challenged Sigmar to a fucking contest, literally. I think they spent a whole day in a cavern under a giant tree and Sigmar came out of it with claw marks all over his body. He basically prayed to whatever God was listening to not give him bastard children because he didn't want a succession crisis to eventually happen. It's honestly one of the more hilarious adventures Sigmar has and you still feel that grimdark pain because he never takes any official lovers, being faithful to the one he lost all those years ago to Azazel.

@michaelsantamaria5295

Жыл бұрын

They're the Asoborns and it was Queen Freya which he kind of did have a bastard child as Pan mention

@CHRISTOSANESTI2023

Жыл бұрын

>faithful >agrees to a fucking contest Lmao

@Lofwyr

Жыл бұрын

​@@CHRISTOSANESTI2023his wife had been dead for some time when he hooked up with Freya, so he technically was a widower.

@redpilldiogenes4741

Жыл бұрын

Wait a FUCKING contest, not a fucking contest Ohhhhhh

@eagle_and_the_dragon

Жыл бұрын

What was the contest?

Btw, one little bit about Sigmar being 15 when killing the warboss: The Empire considers the age of 15 as technically being an adult. With the imperial calendar having more days in it than our calendar, I consider 15 in Warhammer years being basically equivalent to 18 in our time. Of course this doesn't make Sigmar any less badass, just something to think about.

I wonder if Ulrich, Taal, Mathlan, khain and all the other fantasy gods were just real kickass mortals from an even older unknown setting also destroyed by chaos

@michaelsantamaria5295

Жыл бұрын

Well it comes down to the Elven/human Pantheon theory The old elven gods was either in league, created or were Old ones themselves as there many evidence to point to their association with the Old ones with the main evidence being that the shrine of Asuryan that hold his flame is that of a silver Pyramid (similar to the ones in lustria). Human pantheon no different with Ulric having the same flame that in the end times reveal that the mountain was sitting bellow a old one magic gate (like one in the polar gates) Many of the earliest human cults believe that their gods (Taal, Ulric, Verena & Morr) led their worshippers and other "minor gods" to battle during the first chaos invasion with the Cult of Verena having the story of how she manage to acquire the sword of Justice from the polar gates and lead divine forces after the father Asuryan death by the hands of Khorne (he later resurrect himself at the end) Matlan is heavily implied to be mathlann elven god of the sea that the human settler of elven ruins adopted The end times almost out say that Morr was Usirian the tomb king god of the death as when Nagash devoure Usirian did morr just disappear. The Tomb kings also believe that their gods protected them from the demon invasion before the kingdom of Nekhara At the end times Isha talks to Lileath about how the elven gods were survivors of the previous existence destroyed by Chaos and how she and her family mange to escape the void through the light of Asuryan bringing her to warhammer fantasy universe

@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelsantamaria5295 Jesus im just out here theory crafting and you come in with the entire Warhammer timeline to explain it XD

@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif

Жыл бұрын

But i mean it makes sense. The old ones found the warhammer world much like signar found the AOS world and so if the gods of elves, men and dwarves were really old ones then perhaps the old ones were great heroes who were able to ascend to god hood like sigmar since his ascencion clearly shows that mortals can ascend to become gods. Perhaps the old ones and the gods of fantasy were just that, great heroes from a forgotten setting that found the fantasy world just like sigmar found the AOS world. And Tyrion, Teclis, Nagash, Ariel and the others do show that sigmar was'nt just the only one who could rise to godhood

@snappycenter7863

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelsantamaria5295 Awesome. There's also the possibility that Dracothion is Sotek. Both have ties to the Lizardmen and can empower them and their technology, the twin-tailed comet is a sign for both Sigmar and the Lizardmen, some have said Sotek being a snake is misinterpreting Dracothion's long neck and tail...

@ahnmadehv51

7 ай бұрын

Ranald was a human prankster that trisked Shillia into making him a god

"Between the times when the plagues consumed Nehekhara, and the rise of the son of Luitpold, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Sigmar! Destined to wear the jeweled crown of The Empire upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure..." -Pancreas, probably.

@snappycenter7863

Жыл бұрын

"Sigmar! What is best in life?"

@alanolex3962

Жыл бұрын

"To crush the Everchosen, see Chaos driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the Dark Gods."

@202mc4

11 ай бұрын

"He's Sigmar Heldenhammer: he won't cry. So I cry for him."

no matter how bad the end times are, the image of sigmar and archaon fighting over ghal maraz as the world slowly fades into oblivion is metal

@Fazbear-po5mm

6 ай бұрын

Trying to imagine the event makes me wish there was art of it, it’s up there with wishing those descriptions of the fall of Cadiz’s stating people saw guardsmen fight on the literally piles of rubble sounds amazing.

One of the best heroic characters in fiction; a Great Warrior, a Fine King, an Awesome Emperor, a Mighty God and above all a Legendary Hero of Mankind. *PRAISE SIGMAR!*

@tobisans8989

Жыл бұрын

You mean sugmar

@diegocardenas6494

Жыл бұрын

​@@tobisans8989 sugmar dick

@bartekrdzanek6725

Жыл бұрын

Mary Suegmar

@henryheavy8044

Жыл бұрын

What about Optimus

@al3xand993

7 ай бұрын

​@@bartekrdzanek6725gods should get a pass for that

Sigmar is the only individual to do what Big E did, but successfully. His empire lasted over 2,000 years and is still going strong inspite of everything, Chaos, Greenskins, and Skaven. Plus, he's the reason we have our boi Karl Franz. What more could you ask for?

@alextruecustodian6174

Жыл бұрын

Imma be real with you chief, Aside from Karl "Gigachad incarnate" Franz that ain't really a thing They lost against Chaos and Imperium lasts over 10k years. Calling him Big E but succesful isn't really a fair comparison to either character

@Artemisarrowzz

Жыл бұрын

@@alextruecustodian6174 Fantasy's world wasn't a satire filled with plotholes, which is what 40k is and why it remains "living"

@pergys6991

Жыл бұрын

@@alextruecustodian6174 fair but the Empire never went through a brutal Civil War under Sigmar and once Sigmar left, the Empire actually got its shit together and decided to actually work together (sometimes). Like the Empire is prospering most of the time. For all of its existence, it has maintained its status and power and although it hasn't grown too much, it's much better than the Imperium and never descended into that level of fuckery which is more than you can say about Big E and his 20 kids

@ianharrison5758

Жыл бұрын

@@Artemisarrowzz eh, with how they are shaping the lore now i don’t think it’s entirely correct to believe the reason the emperor is alive is solely to keep the setting going. In the real world yeah, kill the emperor and I know I woudkbt touch the setting again, but if they did that to any of the gods before any drawn out end times story that’s been brewing for years, I’d do the same. And it seems like GW is trending towards molding the setting from a perpetual repeat of the same factions shitting on eachother pretty much equally into a much more unique narrative that has actual stakes too it. The arcs of omen, the reveal of vashtoor, the super weapon he’s promised Abbadon and the fall of Cadia has made chaos an actual threat and forces a lot of stupid rules like “no one sees a demon or they die” and other dogmatic shit you only have time to enforce when the enemy isn’t play fighting. The return of the silent king and his pariah nexus scheme, the object the Tyranids fortified an entire system or more to protect, the orks getting sent on more side quests by their gods and the Cherry on top? The lion is waking up in 10th edition. He’s literally the name of one of the books in the lore series they are making. With the emperor getting more coherent as time goes on we may actually see a true reunion and affirmation of some secret plots the sneaky bastards definitely didn’t tell anyone about. Oh yeah and the eldar can wake up a death god if they can steal a finger from the god of rape, but GW will bring the beast back to life before they let the eldar hold a W for more than 10 seconds. There’s so much new shit now, and the stakes and scale have increased and diversified far past the kinda stale but lovable stagnant lore that it used to be. The emperor in older lore is your typical dictator, thinks he’s way smarter than he actually is and gets fucked by his own lack of conviction, that’s a plot hole for the character made to ensure the survival of humanity. Now we got a shapeshifting golden professional manipulator that spins so many interwoven plans and back up plans and safeguards within even more contingencies that we don’t even know the names of 2 of his sons and neither does chaos. Either they are a contingency or they were a threat and were dealt with so thoroughly even most of the primarchs can’t trust the memories they have, and malcador was willing to kill another primarch to make sure they never spoke their names. That’s the kind of guy that would take 10,000 years of agony as the throne shattered his mind and kept him between life and death, if he thinks that it will give him the chance to win. How I feel will change when I read the last heresy book, because if they don’t retcon the fight then the emperor somehow losing his nerve is a plot hole. They could just make it to where the fight was basically even bc the gods were basically fully possessing him, and the emperor had to expend so much energy destroying Horus he’d have died before he can heal. Or GW can go hard and make sanginius be the one to slay the emperor, lost in the black rage after Horus taunted him by revealing that he’d already told others of his sons gene flaw, and that it was the only thing they’d record of them after Horus killed then both.

@Artemisarrowzz

Жыл бұрын

@@ianharrison5758 None of that is going to happen because GW has 0 interest in moving the plot forward. Maybe in another 20 or so years, something of worth will happen but I very much doubt it, considering how the other 40 years had gone.

Azazel to the Chaos Gods: "I killed Sigmars sister and his girlfriend and threw him in a river" The Chaos Gods: "You did what!? You've killed us all!"

The Virgin Emperor: Noooo! Gods Bad! I just LOOK like a God! The Chad Sigmar: Alright I'm a God! Let's kick some Chaos God arse!

@viktordickinson7844

4 ай бұрын

GW cant stop ruining 40k lore every day

@Rawnblade13

3 ай бұрын

Now take this hammer, hero, and HURL THUNDERBOLTS IN MY NAME!

@DinnerForkTongue

9 күн бұрын

"The more power I have, the more I can do for my own. Let's get this show on the road." - Sigmar, probably

Sigmar truly is a paragon in many ways. Somebody who truly has the best of intentions and as a result while he may be rough, rude, angry, a war god, and pretty dumb, he still means the best. He tries and as a result his followers can actually thrive because he (unlike Nurgle) cares about the well-being of the world and everyone in it.

@ianharrison5758

Жыл бұрын

He’s a very human god, so often ascended characters like sigmar are characterized as quasi supernatural already. The emperor was never a normal person and was made for one purpose and because of that his love for humanity wasn’t love as we feel, it’s a programmed love that will always make whatever choice that preserves humanity. He’s an asshole. Sigmar, however, is a man who ascended to his role, but never let it change that core humanity. The emperor is honestly more like a living computer, in terms of his logic. He’s flawed but makes himself out to be flawless, so when he fucks up some easy ethical dilemmas I stop taking him seriously. Sigmar owns that he’s imperfect and makes mistakes. He learns and he cares about the survival of his people over all things, he loves humanity in and of itself over all things so it’s survival while he’s in power is not in question. Big e is edgier and tbh could probably dog walk sigmar but I’d much rather chill with the hammer slanging god king than talk the the psychic supernova surrounding a crusty undying battery that speaks in multiple voices Edit: Tbf, the emperor had a lot more moving pieces and a lot more powerful enemies that waged war on scales even the end times of fantasy didn’t match in the human body count. Big e was created to play 6D chess for the future of creation against much more powerful versions of chaos that sigmar beats down. If Big e took a few hints from sigmar and stopped being so damn cryptic even documented evidence of his war crimes could be countered by God tier gaslighting, then maybe he could walk rn. The emperor to the imperials:*religion is for ignorant pedos who can’t move on from superstition* *the emperor to the mechanics: *im like totally v the machine god. Now supply my armies on our crusade to destroy religion*

@Sigmar_Heldenhammer

Жыл бұрын

Bro, you making me cry over here.

@syrienangel4137

Жыл бұрын

@@Sigmar_Heldenhammer I disagree. Being cryptic was the way to go or the Horus Heresy would've have been worse with even more Primarchs siding with Chaos. Just telling them already dooms them and he knows that. Chaos corrupts absolutely save the Emperor himself. The Emperor's own arcane powers that were meant to shield the tube baby Primarchs shattered. Even the Grey Knights, who were made to be incorruptible have been turned and let's not even talk about the Sisters of Battle. Like you said, he's playing 6d chess with not one, but four Chaos Gods. One of which can see multiple futures and weave fate itself. Best not to show your entire hand to the enemy. The Adeptus Mechanicus get a pass because he wanted avoid of a needless war with casualties on both sides and skip the time for recreating most of their technology from the ground up. He was most likely going to have their religion phase out naturally over the years with subterfuge, especially when a good majority of humans do not follow their doctrine. At the end of the day, from a human's perspective, the Emperor's situation was damned if you do, damned if you don't. To him, the entire Horus Heresy might have just been simply moving a chess piece across the board.

@stephenjenkins7971

Жыл бұрын

​@@syrienangel4137 Bruh, preventative measures is what allows people to NOT fall to Chaos to begin with. Not being aware of it means that Chaos is already using you as a toy.

@syrienangel4137

Жыл бұрын

@Stephen Jenkins What are you talking about? Chaos corruption already has you in its hand the moment you even get a glimpse of any of their symbols. The Emperor and malcador started the Inquisition for a reason.

19 days into Sigmarch and he has finally talked about Sigmar. Never disappoint, Pancreas.

It always surprises me on how (from what I know) Orcs knew how to make Iron weaponry and armour before humans did, Sigmar and his tribe were using Bronze weapons against the orcs Iron weapons. The British Hooligans known throughout warhammer as Primitive warmongerers had better technology than Humans at one point in fantasy.

@kron4222

Жыл бұрын

Orcs got iron from being enslaved by then brutalizing the chaos dwarves

@SMT-ks8yp

Жыл бұрын

If we consider them the same space mushrooms as 40k orks, they know this kind of stuff from birth. But now the question is why didn't they get to the guns after so much time.

@screamingcactus1753

8 ай бұрын

@@SMT-ks8yp They don't intrinsically know how to make iron weapons in Fantasy, and the only reason they can is because the Chaos Dwarfs tried to make a smarter, more disciplined and obedient breed of orc to serve as better slaves than normal orcs. These were the Black Orcs, who successfully rebelled and escaped captivity before proliferating and integrating themselves into wider greenskin society, and they brought with them the knowledge for crafting metal weapons. Before the black orcs came around, the only metal gear the greenskins had was stolen from dwarfs and humans, and they otherwise just used bones or tree branches as clubs. The savage orcs deeper in the badlands still do

DM: “Your friend dies as the hammer passes between you… As-“ Sigmar: “I would like to Rage.”

I have always had it in my mind that when the Age of Sigmar began Sigmar had this epic speech about how he made many mistakes in his life and that he will continue to make them but he won't stop trying. That he is Sigmar once a mortal man turned god and he won't give up on anyone no matter what. Even though he isn't perfect he won't stop trying to do good.

Ah yes Sigmar. The second human in Warhammer Fantasy to do what Big E claims he is doing, do it well and with an engaging character on top

@SMT-ks8yp

Жыл бұрын

Who is the first? Not that I don't know, but who you think it is?

@Never_heart

Жыл бұрын

@@SMT-ks8yp Settra of course

When you’ve rebuilt the world completely as a god and its about to become a utopia but you made the mistake of trusting Nagash

@DeToxin-Toxy

Жыл бұрын

‘Let’s stab sigmar in the back at the worst possible time for both me in him’, I’m surprised Nagash and the Skaven arent considered related in some way after he pulled this stunt

@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593

Жыл бұрын

​​@@DeToxin-Toxy the skaven hate nagash soo much soo it's one of the few things that can unite the skavens not to mention that if he wasn't already a god of death he would be a god of spite and d*ckheadness soo the feeling is mutual also i almost forgot nagash uses and is addicted to warpstone just like the ratmen

@Sorain1

Жыл бұрын

@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 Nagash and the Skaven hate each other because they see so much of themselves, but it's not them so they don't excuse it.

@gustavoaraujopenha8463

7 ай бұрын

@@DeToxin-Toxy If 'I got one coin for each time a dickhead stabbed a goog guy in the back in the worst moment possible for everyone other than chaos during Warhammer Lore I got one coin.... I would have two coins

is sigma perfect? no, he is a god that trust to fast and who anger can often blind him, but he is one of the few gods that genuine cares about others and he is trying his best to help everyone

Sigmar: Unites the tribes, kills Goblins, saves Dwarves, walks off into the distance after being emperor. Random peasants: We can make a religion out of this!

@gajendrasinghchouhan7877

Жыл бұрын

He killed orks

@discountplaguedoctor88

Жыл бұрын

@@gajendrasinghchouhan7877 He killed both. ALONG WITH NAGASH.

@gajendrasinghchouhan7877

Жыл бұрын

@@discountplaguedoctor88 yes

@Fazbear-po5mm

6 ай бұрын

@@discountplaguedoctor88he did the Chad thing during the war with Nagash in which as he almost died he pulled 500 IQ. He threw the crown that for the longest time made sigmar quite a shitty person and then finding out it’s nagash’s cursed helmet to Nagash. Nagash seeing the opportunity fucked off from sigmar and fetched his crown like a dog. And then proceeded to get pummeled to death by gal maraz,

“This whole video is an excuse to use a clip of Karl Franz, what about it?” Never change, Pancreas

I can just imagine some particularly Orky humans seeing Sigmar incarnate walking out of the Vortex with Gal Moraz (?) and going: “Hey, look! That’s Sigmar!” “And he’s holding Skullsplitter!” “But… doesn’t Emperor Franz also have a Skullsplitting Warhammer?” “Then that must mean… we now have _TWO_ Skullsplitters!!” “AWESOME!!” ;D

@Fazbear-po5mm

Жыл бұрын

And dat u gitz, Wes de day the umies lurned tu use gork AND mork

@silvent_slipstream7175

2 ай бұрын

-Bill and Ted, probably

Man, imagine if Big E was written by one competent author like Sigmar instead of having his backstory spread out by multiple writers with clashing views... At this point, The Emperor's character should've remained a mystery

@sovietunion7643

7 ай бұрын

personally i kind of like big E being kind of an idiot in lore because it adds to the silliness of the setting. the horus heresy could have easily avoided if the emperor had just told his sons how chaos worked, or just spent more time with a few of them. its just such a silly thing about how arrogant the emperor can be and thats adds to the absurdity of 40k lore.

@syrienangel4137

7 ай бұрын

@sovietunion7643 I mean, he had. Most of his kids are just *really* stupid. Not to mention, it's Chaos, telling anyone about Chaos, especially a Primarch is just asking them to be corrupted. Might as well send them through the Warp on bicycle.

@billylee7398

6 ай бұрын

​@sovietunion7643 I though big e was playing 16 times the details chess?

@rickkcir2151

6 ай бұрын

@@sovietunion7643 You have no basis to assume that if his sons knew of chaos that they wouldn’t have been corrupted. I have no idea why people just assume that had they’ve known about it, they would have avoided the heresy. Guess what, plenty of people in the story have known about chaos, and still gotten corrupted by it.

@sovietunion7643

6 ай бұрын

@@rickkcir2151 1. fulgrim wouldn't have pulled the slaanesh sword and become corrupted because he would understand the implications of even touching such a thing could do and would generally understand the risks of dealing with slaanesh in any capacity. 2. magnus i admit was arrogant and easily could have been corrupted either way, but i would still say understanding that a malevolent entity may be trying to manipulate him has a chance of becoming humble and even if he ends up harming the webway like he did anyways, he might not be taking tzeetch's deal. like i said 50/50 on this one but still. 3. lorgar may have stayed loyalists. highly zealous people need either a god to praise or something to hate and attack. negative emotion in 40k is much stronger than positive emotion so i believe big E explaining to lorgar that there are literally dark gods out there would give lorgar purpose and something to direct his attention and hate towards rather than being such a crazy person and hindering the great crusade 4. mortarion may have not taken nurgle's deal. understanding more in depth how horrific nurgle's """love""" is would probably have him see his marines die through the plague rather than end up with that fate. this does still mean mortarian would be dead (or at least lost in the warp for awhile perhaps trying to escape nurgle) in the setting but still a better fate than him and his sons currently being a plague vessel 5. horus: this one is just a theory as it may be true that whoever was to be the warmaster was to fall to chaos no matter what, but if horus understood that chaos will bend the truth or show the truth out of context to get people to fall to them, then he wouldn't have fallen into chaos after he was stabbed with the chaos knife as he would understand the vison of the future with the temple planet not having statues of himself. this would mean he would not fall for the trap and listen to magnus telling him the vison was BS and staying loyal.

According to the Lexicanum wiki, there's a sign at Bugman's Bar in Warhammer World claiming the dwarves took back Ghal Maraz after Sigmar's death, claiming it was just under loan. Subsequent Emperors have apparently been using a replica this whole time, and the dwarves have no idea where it came from. Edit: OP brings it up at 15:13

@CRMSN_RDR

Жыл бұрын

Honestly wouldnt be surprised if it was another dwarf who understood that ol' Ironbeard gave the thing to sigmar as a gift, Im genuinly curious what the king thought when learning about the hammer being taken back

@connordorsey9959

Жыл бұрын

That’s stupid

@DogseatDogs

Жыл бұрын

​@@CRMSN_RDR Sth along the thoughts of *These stupid motherf**kers* for the dawi.

Sigmar is what happens when you take away Charlemagne's kids and fuse him with both Jesus and Thor. Pure, unadulterated, badass.

@202mc4

11 ай бұрын

And Conan. Never forget Conan.

that moment when a barbarian god has more brain then the most powerful entity in the 40k universe

If there's one thing I have to appreciate about Age of Sigmar, it's that it does a LOT to justify the Imperium's Xenophobia. Sigmar creates and leads a pantheon of the numerous races and organizations gods and whatnot, and all goes swimmingly for awhile, then Chaos kicks down the door, shits on the couch and drinks all the beer. And just when all seems lost and everyone's backs are against the wall, most of the pantheon... splits off to try and protect their own people above all else instead of staying to work together, and the last guy to leave kicks Sigmar in the balls on his way out. Really, all we need is one of the other gods to start eating humans and we have a perfect microcosm of humanity's state of affairs after the Men of Iron Rebellion.

The thing about the current Ghal Maraz being a replica is not actually 100% confirmed. Imperial scholars basically think it’s a 50/50 chance of it being the original or a replica, since there are some tales of Sigmar leaving Ghal Maraz at the foot of his throne.

When I first discovered Warhammer Fantasy, I wasn't terribly interested in it due to me preferring sci-fi as a whole, but after learning more about the world and it's characters, I have gained a newfound appreciation for it.

I read a book that starts out with Young Sigmar running around killing orcs and I remember literally nothing from it other than that.

@TheCorrodedMan

Жыл бұрын

Heldenhammer, it’s in the Prologue.

The whole bit in Middenheim with Artur really shows has Sigmar show off being, a barbarian who can think. He knows he can beat Artur in a duel, Artur knows Sigmar can beat him and wants no part of that, so Sigmar maneuvers him into a position where he can't back down without looking like the biggest bitch alive.

Such is the power of Nagash that he faced almighty Sigmar and lived.

@TheCorrodedMan

Жыл бұрын

Read that comment again, and tell me what you notice.

@xanmontes8715

4 ай бұрын

​@@TheCorrodedManNagash was strong enough to survive facing off against Sigmar?

@TheCorrodedMan

4 ай бұрын

@@xanmontes8715 Nah, he faced him and “lived” He most certainly does not live, but he wasn’t destroyed.

>SIgmar killed big scary orcs and wielded The Warhammer at just age 15 So Sigmar is an anime character.

Sigmar is the greatest and most good god hands down, especially in AoS. Without him there wouldn’t even have been anything after the age of chaos, they wouldn’t have been civilisation or the many races, during the age of Myth, he ushered in an age of hope, he always has been active and still is, he isn’t twiddling his thumbs in Azyr, the stormcast are HIM, he is directing his legions, granting quests to his knight questors, giving power to new stormcast and helping to reforge old, he sends them do to the realms on his lighting where he needs them to be, he is aware of all that is happening and is constantly trying to correct the corruption from the age of chaos. And the stormcast are helping him atone by redeeming those lost to chaos, he is a war god that became king, and he is doing a fantastic job at it given the setting. Also the stormcasts chant is the best: “ONLY THE FAITHFUL”.

Sigmar: dropping the (war)hammer on Chaos' helpless tushie since the 80's.

The golden man who is the warhammer fantasy and the warhammer as a whole when he isn't even in warhammer 40000 lol.

@Never_heart

Жыл бұрын

He is too good for 40k

On the subject of the Stormcast Eternals being more interesting than the Space Marines, it really depends. In terms of total lore, the Space Marines have more individual parts of it that are interesting, what with all the different Chapters. The Stormcast have their own equivalent, in the form of the Stormhosts, but there's a lot less written about them. Though this has a lot to do with AoS being much younger than 40K, and thus there's been less time to fill out the setting (not to mention I think the current gaming landscape lends itself less well to churning out lots of novels for every tiny faction; 40K still does it because it's always done that and its fanbase expects nothing less). Moreover, I would argue that not going too in depth into the individual Stormhosts is good, as part of a larger trend in AoS to share the spotlight equally between factions. As opposed to 40K, where Space Marines must receive equal attention cake every time another faction gets the spotlight, so the Emperor's special sons get the lion's share in aggregate. The fact the Stormcast Eternals don't get as much total time devoted to them and their eccentricities is a GOOD thing, if I may be so bold. It's healthier for AoS as a whole. So the Stormhosts are more a means of providing flavor and "vibes" for one's army. Rather than epic stories unto themselves, like the major and even minor Chapters of Space Marines. In a paragraph or so, you get to understand what the general deal is with a Stormhost, without getting bogged down in the details. This in itself is a positive, because it grants players more latitude to make creative decisions, even when using a canon Stormhost. Though you can also just as readily make your own, and they would be almost as valid as a canon Stormhost, with how little lore each gets. (Unlike in 40K, where OC Chapters will always be overshadowed by the big named ones, simply by volume of lore and their place in the fandom.) Lastly, I think Stormcast are more interesting simply because they have many quality-of-life improvements over the Space Marines. It is canon they can be any sex or gender, whereas 40K fans are fighting to get GW to make FSM canon. Stormcast can be non-humans, and indeed can come from any background. While you CAN have Stormcast that were child soldiers (there's at least one canon Stormhost made of them), you aren't obliged to. They are anyone who spent their lives in heroism, and in any capacity you like, not just strictly martial. (A noblewoman who sheltered innocents in her castle, a messenger who carried vital intel through a hail of arrows, or a healer who risked their life to heal on the battlefield are just as viable to get Reforged as a knight or warrior chieftain. The reforging process and Azyr's military training can make up the difference in physicality and skill.). Nor are Stormcast required to live quasi-monastic lives, deliberately kept apart from the people they protect. They're allowed to have fulfilling lives, even if the slow degradation of their mental state hamstrings them somewhat. The Stormcast, most importantly, are allowed to be the heroes GW always wants to make the Space Marines. They aren't (by default) the martial arm of a fascist theocracy, heartlessly enacting its totalitarian aims at the expense of the people. Some Stormhosts trend towards that, in case you want that in an army, but it's strictly optional and even folks in Sigmar's realm consider those guys extreme.

@stephenjenkins7971

Жыл бұрын

This is a fair point, but I think the point is the concept of Stormcast as a whole. Space Maines are effectively just hyper roided out men whom due to genetic issues can have major flaws -that and the culture of the Space Marine chapter sets standards about how they act. In short what makes them interesting is not them being Space Marines themselves, but the Chapter they're a part of. Meanwhile Stormcast as a whole are far more interesting by default. They are reforged from heroes of history and brought back to fight against Chaos once again while clutching onto their dwindling humanity as they do so. I'd say that some of the SM Chapters are far more interesting than the Stormcast on a case by case basis, but on the macro level the Stormcast are way more interesting as a concept. Mind you, wasn't always like that. Stormcast were just "heroes brought back from history to kick butt" and that's it prior to more recent additions to AoS lore.

Honestly, I was never much a fan of Sigmar. But hearing it like this... yeah, sounds like an awesome dude.

My favourite part of the emperor of mankind lore, is when he fought the Void dragon. Sigmar lore is just that and I love.

@ianharrison5758

Жыл бұрын

It was actually the emperor of mankind from 40k that fought the void dragon. The Ctan, which is what the void dragon is, don’t exist in fantasy or AOS. I will say tho I’m not a fantasy expert so there may be a void dragon in fantasy that just has the same name, I have no idea. There are a lot of shared characters and lore for high tier characters like that so I wouldn’t be surprised tbh. If I just got trolled then oh well, that fight is still hilarious and I wish we actually got the details for how he got it to mars

@Field_of_Illusion99

Жыл бұрын

@@ianharrison5758 I was talking about the 40k empire. I just misspell "emperor" part. I change it to the Emperor.

@ianharrison5758

Жыл бұрын

@@Field_of_Illusion99 damn, my autistic ass read it completely differently. I was ready to think the void dragon is in fantasy before I thought of that. Either way, it’s GOD emperor to you heretic

@Field_of_Illusion99

Жыл бұрын

Two week later and i still don't know why the rest of the Ian comment is about Void dragon.

God bless this man for his sacrifice, for without his death Bo would never of been able to strike down the the golden mafia. #GoldenLost

@mysticfire7675

Жыл бұрын

unexpected Bokoen reference

One major thing that makes Sigmar so great is that he was born a man albeit a great hero but he was born a man. Meanwhile the emperor on the other hand was a creation of the shamans suicide ritual or something and by the time he started acting he has lived with his god powers for countless years and is as detached from a lot of his humanity long ago.

Personally I’d like to imagine that Sigmar will eventually just decide to spawn camp Nagash till he stops messing with his gold boys.

@Sigmar_Heldenhammer

Жыл бұрын

WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA MY GOOD SIR.

@TheCorrodedMan

Жыл бұрын

“Sigmar come on man” “Give them back” “But they’re mine! I’m the god of the dead, it’s my ri-“ (Divine bonk, nagash explodes into a pile of various bones. Shortly later, he reforms, and Sigmar readies his hammer) “SIGMAR!” “Give.them. _BACK!”_

You can’t spell Sigmar without Sigma and that is why he is the best

The god humanity deserves. I also feel like Pancreas is slowly working his way to a, a very well deserved, rant about The Emperor.

I'm hoping for Lizardmen/ Seraphon next!

Before the time the Old Ones left the earth has it was, and the Rise of the sons of Malekith, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Sigmar, destined to bear the jeweled crown of the Empire upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler who only is worthy of telling thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of the age of Warhammer...

Haha, as someone from the rural Midwest, I absolutely second that comment on wild hogs! It's funny when city people think, hey its just a hairy pig, and as far as they know pigs are just fat dumb critters. Uhhh nope to both. Pigs are brilliant and will eat your face off if you take a short nap within reach of them, and hogs are like miniature tanks whose tusks do so so so much more damage than you would imagine. And when that cute pig squeal is now a scary pig scream and it's chasing you faster than you could possibly ever outrun, you start to apologize for every thinking hogs were fat. Wild hogs are vicuous bastards and if you run into one in the wild, climb a tree. It's like the only thing those brilliant speedy little cannon balls can't do

Recently did some more exploring. Dove into Archeon and holy shit. In fantasy, chaos or at the very least his faction, felt super right? Like, it felt like he got a fair shake of a MC arc in an anime. That felt cool to read him collecting the treasures just wish some of the rest of End time followed it.

I like one thing about Sigmar above everything else: he’s still human enough to grieve, but divine enough to act despite that grief. I say this because even now, in an age that’s forgotten his world and its history entirely, he still mourns for the one woman he ever truly loved; Ravenna, his childhood love, and the sister of Azazel, who murdered her in cold blood in an effort to kill Sigmar. He has, in the innumerable centuries since the end of the World-that-Was, never once taken another lover or even so much as considered loving anyone else in that way, so as to make her memory as eternal as he is. He _loved_ her, loved her more than any mortal man can express, and he still does. Even as a god, he pines for a mortal woman long dead. He could have the universe…but he only ever wanted her. I hope one day, we get a story where he goes on a dangerous quest deep into the heart of Mallus to hunt down what remains of her soul, eventually gathering enough shards to piece her back together again, though diminished in the fashion of all who are shaped by the Anvil of Apotheosis. A single Stormcast Eternal who does not march to war, but instead rules at the side of the God King as his beloved wife. Ra’veena Ravenhair, the Twice-Born, the Light of Sigmars eye, and God-Queen of Azyr.

Morcar was also the Big Bad Guy in European editions of the 80's Heroquest, which was technically set in the Warhammer universe...Not that it means anything (other than "in the Heroquest timeline, Sigmar is alive", which would be pretty cool), but it shows GW's tendency to re-use names is something it has always done.

Sigmar can't be a lost primarch as he surpasses them all.

These last three videos were super interesting to watch, one for the faction, one for the current leader and one for its god. I would 100% watch if you did similar videos for the other factions, total war introduced me to warhammer and your videos are informative, fun and luckily not 10 hours each.

You’ve really been pumping out some great videos recently. Keep up the good work!

Pancreas is just a goat a lot of stuff about warhammer fantasy intrigued me but I couldn't find to much on them and here we have pancreas making whole videos. I find myself liking a lot of the old fantasy more then 40k idk what is but I love history and when I read or listen to old fantasy lore it feels like I'm reading up on human history just with some extra parts like orcs daemons and lizardmen which is just amazing to me

I love the Age of Mythology screenshots.

If Sigmar got locked in the vortex did he ever interact with the elven gods or the elves on the donut at all? And how do the gods of age of sigmar feel about him considering he seemed to have saved them.

@TheCorrodedMan

Жыл бұрын

Gorkamorka loves him because he’s the only one who can kick his ass, Alarielle thinks he’s a cool dude, Nagash hates him because he’s stronger than he is, and the dwarf gods are his allies.

@botep5529

11 ай бұрын

Imagine being locked in a vortex with Imrik's ancestor for 2000 years

Ah, the motley crew of Nick Ash, Seymour and Nergo goes to Marocco. Classic tale

@SamueL-td7fb

Жыл бұрын

now that's a DnD group I can get behind

While I will agree that the Emperor is far more divorced from ordinary folk than Sigmar, it’s my understanding that the lore presented in the Heresy novels has ‘fleshed out’ Big E’s reason for being that way quite well: Sigmar spent two-and-a-half millennia sealed away in the Vortex only generally able to grant divine boons to his people, and still ends up divorced enough from ordinary folk that he failed to keep the Pantheon together in the Age of Myth. The Emperor spent between that timeframe and roughly forty millennia or *sixteen times as long* actively existing at roughly the level of power Sigmar achieved at the outset of the Age of Myth with no divine drive to care about His followers or even fellow beings. My interpretation of that is that the Emperor is basically what Sigmar-as-god would have become if he’d been let loose to play around without consequences for longer than the lifespan of the Fantasy world. Not a tragic figure, per se, but so incomprehensibly jaded to the mortal perspective that it’s functionally the only weakness he has left because his power compensates for anything else.

@bajscast

Жыл бұрын

While the emperor was always very powerful, he was never nearly sigmar's level until he made a bargain with the chaos gods at Molech, which was during the dark age of technology. Before then he was just a strong psyker, still able to be nearly killed by a human with a knife. After molech he was stronger but still nearly died to an ork warboss for example. I reckon sigmar is the stronger of the two now but most of the emperor's power boost seems to have happened due to existing in both warpspace and reality with his soul constantly in flux. Combine that with worship I mean

@stephenjenkins7971

Жыл бұрын

@@bajscast The worship made the Emperor on a level to match the Chaos Gods, but before that he was just a really powerful pskyer -he's probably a lot stronger than God Sigmar currently, but also far more problematic as a deity by far.

@bajscast

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenjenkins7971 'match' the chaos gods is a nebulous term considering the chaos gods' power waxes and wanes extensively. We have no idea how powerful they are, nor the mechanics of worship for power granting. The eldar gods were easily killed by a power swollen slaanesh in spite of their 70 million years of worship by an eldar empire more populous than humanity in the 41st millenium

@stephenjenkins7971

Жыл бұрын

@@bajscast True, the power levels make no sense, but that's just Warhammer. Somehow Sigmar became a God powerful enough to stand up to the Chaos Gods despite not having even a fraction of its adherents and maintained his power despite losing most of the Mortal Realms to them in AoS. In the lore, the God Emperor is able to geniunely match them. In Sigmar's case, he's able to stand up to them but not able to match them. Mind you, apparently multiple AoS Gods working in tandem can capture Slaanesh which is something no deity in the franchise has matched yet, so who knows?

@bajscast

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenjenkins7971 To be fair, sigmar is a god god, it's a proper title in aos because aos is divine in nature, vs 40k where the gods are all just definitions ascribed by people The closest comparison to the emperor is probably nagash. Physically both are weak for gods - the emperor is dying in a chair and nagash is constantly getting skeletored. But due to their combined powers and efforts they can threaten the gods outright via scheming

This guy is trying to single handedly reverse the Ju-ju inflicted on AOS by its initial reception back onto 40k

I thoroughly enjoyed your using of clash barbs for the unberogens

A SIGMAR video on my Birthday?! I’ve been blessed!!

I love the grimdarkness of the stormcast losing their humanity

I get multiple laughs from your videos every time I watch one. The 4chan stab was especially funny

I really love your humour and delivery, this is quite the awesome channel and I always look forward to the content, no matter what it is you cover.

I didnt' know i needed this information.. thanks.

This is me learning about Sigmar, but dude is kind of a gigachad. Big E doesn't do a whole lot himself but Sigmar is always going somewhere and actually doing something cool

I love the vaguely AoE2 music when you started talking about age transitions. Just that little extra oomph that earns a chef's kiss

Only recently discovered your channel but I love the content (I don't play AoS but I am also an fan boy of elves in all forms)

Yeah Sigmar’s backstory is cool and all….. but in my heart he’s still one of the lost primarchs. The Big E found him but said he’d blow up the planet as it’s infested with chaos and orcs. So Sigmar told him to go sit in a chair for 10 thousand years before a warp storm cuts off the planet. Big E is so butt hurt that he decrees Sigmar’s name is never to be spoken of again in the Imperium. That’s my head canon and I’ll change it for no man, woman or good doggo

I'd love to see a dwarf video for AOS sometime, since you've covered elves and humans. I don't know any of their lore but the kharadron overlords have really cool minis.

Great job, love your narrating voice!

Another great video PancreasNetwork

"Never stop grinding to you're worth worshipping" -Sigmar Male grindset

It can’t think. It can just add very fast. We just add up a bunch of instructions in the line of our thinking.

Really hoping you do a video like this on Archaon and Morathi. Why yes, I do play Daughters of Khaine and Slaves to Darkness.

On top of Charlemagne, he also took some from Charlemagne's grandfather Charles Martel. "Martel" is old french for "hammer" (the parallel is self-explainatory), and Charles Martel is most famous from a decisive victory against invaders from the South, repealing the Saracens at Tours/Poitiers, which would be an equivalent of Blackfire Pass. He then openly grabbed the power from the weak Merovingian kings, making his son Pippin the new king.

So I wonder if anyone can help me out with some lore... I remember vividly reading a short story in a fantasy codex as a child, maybe 15 or so years ago. The story was about a human leader and an orc warboss who engaged in single combat. Troops from both armies stopped to watch the duel. The Orc initially has the upper hand but when it seems like the man is going to be defeated he prays to some god and grows in size (literally) to match the size of the warboss, defeats him and the Orcs scatter. I have tried to find this story for years but can't, I have a feeling it's Sigmar, I seem to remember he used a hammer in the fight. Am I dreaming this and making it all up or does someone remember where it came from?

Could you do a video on the basics of AoS? With the different realms and stuff and how they're all connected and shit? I've never really managed to wrap my head around the setting because every time I've tried I've gotten bored and went back to looking at the fantasy or 40k lore.

0:44 My brother from another mother, that clip has a bad side effect of making me grab my halberd and summon The elector counts

Can you talk about the Chaos Dwarfs, lots of people would watch it before the DLC drops for total war

I like this man's casual animosity to Big E.

Can you do a video discussing everything we know about the lost Legions and their Primarchs?

@PancreasNoWork Would you be willing to do a video on the Norscan? I see a few videos about them and I'd like to get your opinion on them! Thanks!

The Empire is just unreasonably awesome

Sigmarines are basically Necrons but less cool

@Lord_Vesh

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@Dyno2999

10 ай бұрын

because he said so@@Lord_Vesh

Another great video as always!

RIP Valten, you were way cooler than the End Times. And made Sigmar proud.

Big + for the AoM music in the background. 💪😎

Finally the Age of Mythology music with screenshots of Age of Mythology i feel complete

5:41 you see, kurgan knew that sigmar would split many orc skulls with it so he was willing to allow this.

With Age of Mythology screenshots as well as music this channel is finally realising it’s true purpose as extremely delayed marketing for the classic Ensemble Studios RTS

15:47 summon the elector counts

To defend Charlemange he didn't name his empire Rome. The Pope did that because Charlemange was about to arrange a marriage between his son and a Byzantine Princess. Which would have seen him made Roman Emperor but with legitimacy rather than the farce the HRE was. The Pope literally ambush crowned Charlemange knowing he could hardly turn it down and knowing that the Basileus would throw a fit and call off the unwanted alliance between Frankia and the ERE which absolutely would have created a true WRE. The Eastern Emperor was not opposed to Charlemange being Western Emperor but was determined that this title had to come from him and not a jumped up bishop. In short the HRE was born with the intention of being a fraudulent and inept institution from day one. It was not an accident.

i love the storm cast be lift up heroes to fight for fever for a better world