Sigewinne fans when Sigelosse enters the chat 💀

Will Sige "win" at the end of the beta? Find out in the next episode of dragon ball Z

Sigewinne's real purpose is counterintelligence - she helps determine fake Kokomi fans among the genuine Kokomi Nation patriots.

@VladStopTalking

Ай бұрын

🤣

@masterjedicat

Ай бұрын

Yeah! True Kokomi fans will never abandon her for some minimodel-melusine-medicine-maker!

@banana-is-life

Ай бұрын

I'm a Kokomi main but I want Sigewinne 😭😭

@koi8670

Ай бұрын

hahahaha. I love my kokomi so much. so convenient in a lot of ways

I have the feeling that most of her value is in her C2: 35% hydro res shred and providing a 15k hp shield. Furina-Sig C2 then provide the full support package: elemental application, big Sub-DPS damages, damage boost, party wide healing and shield !

@alienordupuis3685

Ай бұрын

Maybe but C2 is a wooping 480 pull...

@kerpl0p

26 күн бұрын

​@@alienordupuis3685I agree that c2 to make character is a copium, but loser mentality is unlikely here, guarantee for a character (average) is 110ish pulls. So on average it's like 330 pulls, which is still a lot but not as bad. Issue is, she is a support, so it's hard to justify that many pulls for a support

Her kite makes me believe that she'll be the standard banner character for that region

@arber7240

Ай бұрын

her kit does but her cons dont tho like her c1 and c2 make her a genuinely really good character

@apleb7605

Ай бұрын

What’s funny is that they have yet to add a geo chara to the standard banner. Oh and cryo.

@layl

Ай бұрын

​@arber7240 then her cons are gonna get nerfed and if not that means she's not standard so c0 kit will get buffed

@ShevaAlpha2002

Ай бұрын

​​@@apleb7605 Qiqi is Cryo character.

@apleb7605

Ай бұрын

@@ShevaAlpha2002 Nah she’s physical with some cryo attacks. I mean what kind of particles does she generate?

Qiqi powercreep NOWAY

You are most feared duelist in the nation you enter the scene with most dynamic entry "cool as af" and around you flutters sea horsie, octopus with dapper cylinder hat and bouncy bubbles.

I have a feeling she's still in "early" stages and she's going to see drastic buffs.

@NineLivesNate

Ай бұрын

Clorinde and Sigewinne both imo. Arlecchino got a lot of changes, hoping they do the same for these two.

@yahia5476

Ай бұрын

@@NineLivesNate yeah clorinde currently is as good as V1 arle, which is *fine* I guess but she looks like she would get some buffs or at least QoL changes

@elmervelazquez3549

Ай бұрын

She is better than althaitam quicken? ​@@yahia5476

@kaelferreira4964

Ай бұрын

She has Dehya vibes, Does too many things and none are great enough to put her in the team. Maybe a Standard banner character?

@elmervelazquez3549

Ай бұрын

@@yahia5476 is clorinde as strong as althaitham in quicken? *Not quickbloom*

The developers on sig have to be the same people who designed dehya😭😭😭 u can't tell me the people that made dehya and sig also made neuvilette and furina😭

@jstern25

Ай бұрын

She seems the most dehya like of any character

@ixirion

Ай бұрын

@@jstern25 I think her design is overworld and coop + designed for kids. My 10 y niece wants Sigewine and she doesnt care about application but that she is cute and have bubble gun her most liked char is ofc Klee XD

I love these short videos, I'm looking forward for more

Fair analysis, the team comp issue is definitely her biggest problem. Where I think Sigewinne does shine though is overworld. Her CC on bubble and passive heal from off field will feel amazing for overworld. Honestly probably the best overworld healer hands down. Also you kind of ignored her bubble can CC which could be quite strong (granted we've not seen it in action). Lastly kokomi is circle impact when played primarily as a healer / sup and siegwinne will feel miles better than that so I think see will see quite a lot of use in place of kokomi even if her hydro app is weaker. Most of the player base is pretty casual and feels good is > optimal DPS for them.

@someonesomewhere8658

Ай бұрын

Her bubble cc is small mobs only and only lasts about 1s as of the current beta. Kokomi looking way better - less field time, more hydro, and a competent driver

i think you're significantly underselling kokomi's hydro app. thats the whole reason she was relevant before furina, and a solid upgrade over mona. sigewinne has negligible hydro app, making her a really bad option for any team that needs it. to me, she feels more like a premium barbara (we used to say the same thing about kokomi lol but they both go in different directions). team wide off field healing is something kokomi cant do, but barbara and sigewinne can. kokomi has great off field app, barbara and sigewinne dont.

@jstern25

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I love kokomi in freeze, freeze is on ice rn. And siegwinne can't hold ttds

@tetraavalon3664

Ай бұрын

Kokomi is great in freeze...only if the abyss allowed freeze to be good! She is basically stuck in her Nilou build for me. Freeze probably only making a comeback in Snezhnaya...

@alphierzero55

Ай бұрын

I think you are overestimating koko's hydro application, first is limited to a circle, second you need another hydro to apply enough hydro or you put her on field that is what you do with barbara, at the end koko is a little better barabra. I have both of them and in on field dedro is basically the same output of team damage with multiwave and a little better against boss with koko. Sige is difference she work as low on field time party healer or as furina's healer. Koko is a better applier/driver but sige is a better healer and we are talking about healers, plus she has some buffing part in her kit, damage wise i think they are not to much distance between them. It isn't mentioned that she has a passive that heals a charcater under 50% hp every 20s. At the end she will be better option of koko cause she works well with furina and we use furina everywhere, not the best option cause baizhu and xianyun are the best options but the second with jean followed by the other healers

@_mako

Ай бұрын

@@alphierzero55 that wasnt my point. i was talking specifically about freeze. with ttds and tenacity, kokomi is an uncontested upgrade over sigewinne, even with furina. her circle isnt an issue in freeze either. and before you say "freeze is bad", thats not relevant because just because the current content doesnt favor freeze, doesnt make the actual archetype suddenly bad. thats like saying neuvillete sucks if hyv decides to make a hydro immune abyss. as for dendro teams, the only ones that actually want furina are quickbloom, which are mainly either Alhaitham or Cyno. alhaitham already has a fixed electro healer slot in kuki/dori. cyno could make use of sigewinne, but i think the dendro resonance and baizhu's reaction buff is just better for him. non quicken dendro teams dont want her. kokomi is still better in nilou bloom, and hyperbloom doesnt care about her buffs, her healing or her minimal hydro app. the only team i can of that sigewinne would be relevant in is a yae nahida furina quickbloom team, and that heavily depends on the value of her skill buff and your furina's investment, because again, she'll be competing with baizhu and his buff/dendro resonance.

I think Stringless and Sacrificial Bow have potential. If sac bow lets her have two bubbles at once that will be really good and her initial hit also does a separate instance of arkhe damage meaning the real successful proc chance on first bubble hit is 96%. Stringless gives a nice damage buff to bow skill and burst without needing to buff attack to do so.

quick update: according to new info, the ICD leak was incorrect, she actually applies hydro 3 times with her skill, not just one 😭😭

@grimnotes7885

Ай бұрын

Thank you for making my day

@yashaskararyan

Ай бұрын

where’d you get this new info from? it wasn’t on the leak subreddit

@woahitsfranco5286

Ай бұрын

@@yashaskararyan in the comments of the clorinde BOL example video

@tetraavalon3664

Ай бұрын

Does that really change anything? lmao

@woahitsfranco5286

Ай бұрын

@@tetraavalon3664 elemental application is important for a unit thats like theory crafting 101 😭

If only the trigger conditions for that "bow" were different, it'd be dope for yelan

When you say that you'd prefer a different healer to Kokomi even in mono-hydro, who exactly would that be and what would the final team look like? Because as far as I'm aware, Kokomi + Furina + Yelan + Kazuha/XQ are the highest sheeting and practically performing variants and it's really not even close. Also, I'm pretty sure most Nilou TCs/mains agree that Nilou/Nahida/Kokomi/Collei is definitively her best team when you're not dealing with single-target or shieldbreaking.

@prastal

Ай бұрын

When dori c6 is as good as kokomi in slot because she can run fav in mono hydro and has actual aoe because of electro charged and mono hydro being single target only, you realize kokomi isn't as good as it looks. Especially when you realize technically neuvilette furina kazuha zhongli is technically a mono hydro team

@sweatymobilegamer784

Ай бұрын

@@prastal And uh, exactly how much of an impact do you think Fav makes on energy economy in MONO-HYDRO? Also, electro-charged damage barely does anything even in AoE (at least not without an extended field time Kazuha) and is pretty much entirely negligible in ST. Like, what is this cope 💀

@_mako

Ай бұрын

@@prastal man, stop making us dori mains look bad... she has her uses, but its not in mono hydro 💀

@prastal

Ай бұрын

@@_mako Erm sorry to inform you but dori taser is a really good team you should comsider when you have the time to

@prastal

Ай бұрын

@@sweatymobilegamer784 The team is playing kazuha anyway and you can literally get away with 140 ER yelan

She has standard written all over her

@ixirion

Ай бұрын

her const are too good. I more think she has overworld char written. run around trap hilichurls in ballons and be happy

@musicaddict9058

Ай бұрын

People keep saying this for every new character these days, it's getting old ngl

@boringfactor8792

Ай бұрын

@@musicaddict9058 she is complete garbage as of right now.

gotta love Sooj Win

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I honestly feel like she'll get a massive change to her E buff, so she's used as a buffer in E centric team.

Hopefully Natlan will have some characters that will be good pairings with Sigewinne. I like her kit but I agree it seems like right now she just doesn't have many teams.

@Yanaro-pi8pt

Ай бұрын

Her kit has nothing that screams future impact though. Just damage and buff, the kind of buff that works for Furina but the number is low and the mechanic is wonky

Finally Navia signature healer

Hello, what do you think about the Navia Chiori Furina Sigewinne team? If you see my comment please reply

My team now: Raiden Shogun C6, Yelan C0, Furina C0, Jean C2. My future team: Raiden Shogun C6, Sigewinne C0, Furina C0, Kazuha C0

RIP. Clorinde, and then I save for Natlan it seems.

what do we think about Navia / Furina / Sigewinne / Zhongli? Also, Sigewinne could end up having the kokomi treatment by being really good for future teams (perhaps completely copium since i really wanted her to be good)

its sigeover

@pyronado4320

Ай бұрын

Sigelosse

She could have made a good Neuvi support if the 30% hydro res shred wasn't C2, and source water droplets were 3. She could have been a Arlechino support if she could indirectly heal Arlechino through some Bond of Life mechanic. But rn she doesn't seem to fit anywhere, Neuvilette can at max have one other hydro character in his team to not loose the draconic stacks at C1 and Furina is still his best support. Kokomi heals off field, requires minimal field time and buffs the team with TTDS and ToM set, but Sigewine may need time to throw the bubbles or aim .... plus no buff to team at C0, other than giving less than required droplets to Neuvi who again doesn't need her as Furina exists ...

Remember when Kokomi was called a bad character on release good days

@alphierzero55

Ай бұрын

same things were said for baizhu and xianyun and they are much more better then kokomi

@sweatymobilegamer784

Ай бұрын

​@@alphierzero55No, no they are not. The fact that this even needs to be said is astounding given their widely varying teambuilding considerations.

@alphierzero55

Ай бұрын

@@sweatymobilegamer784 yes they are better and by a lot as healer and as support

@sweatymobilegamer784

Ай бұрын

@@alphierzero55 So provide your reasoning/evidence then. I shouldn't have to ask for it.

@alphierzero55

Ай бұрын

@@sweatymobilegamer784 first party helaing, second they are not a circle impact and third they are have some buff, dendro and plunge attack. Koko can apply more element but you need anyways another hydro. Xianyun and baizhu are an upgrade in varius team and koko is sidegrade or even a downgrade. If we consider a furina she is weaker then jean, generaly outside dendro bennet/jean/xianyun are better. Damge is negligible for everyone

ME ROSSEN NOT CAUGHT!

As a professional Kokomi player it's looking like an easy skip

Pray that they buff her abilities , if her CC bubble can group large enemies in freeze she could be a more comfortable unit

Her signature is a bow not a bubble gun XD

I like her animations and that's kinda all. Tbh I wish they buff her skill buffing talent and just trade the other talent for her C1 or C2 (yes, that huge of a buff lol) We also kinda lack a Hydro Shielder, and I seriously hope we'll get a shielder buff with Natlan. The situation is too sad currently... We have multiple sets for healer and near nothing for actual shielders...

From what I'm seeing sige is just bad. Real bad. Honestly i see zero reason to get her unless MASSIVE change like almost ground up rework change and tbh sodium cloride is not the best either from what I've seen but she's at least compitant at dps. But again from what I've seen could be completely wrong on this one i didn't look at her as much as i did the nurse.

I hope they buff her supportive capabilities and boost her damage

can her c2 stack with nilou c2?

Navia - Furina - Chiori C1 all of them use elemental skill and it’s the best team for Sig

@prastal

28 күн бұрын

Sigewinne does not buff navia's skill damage it's for only off-fielders

Zhongli + Sieg + Furina + Navia With favonius you also provide battery. And you can use any offensive 4 slot artifact set that buffs navia.

I thought she was going to be a bond of life support, but I guess we're going right back to Furina's meta

tldr she's gonna be forgettable

Favge

if sigewinne released in 2.X she would've been dubbed the worst unit now she's just "underwhelming" idk tho dude running furina double hydro with pokemon teams sounds fun with her

@alphierzero55

Ай бұрын

2.1 banner a character called kokomi, but she is not the worst (the worst was zhongli 1.1) and albedo was on the same level. Things a part, is the third time i heard she is a worse healer then kokomi the first time was with baizhu and the second with xianyun and they are much better. The only thing koko is better is hydro application, but when you use kokomi you use xingqiu or yelan bacuse you need hydro application anyways, sige has a tiny damage buff but better then have nothing as koko, sige as a party helaing and no circe impact. At the end of the day she is not the best healer but work better with furina and she will be the best hydro healing option

There are two realistic choices for Hoyoverse for Sigewinne: Either powercreeping Kokomi as the best hydro healer or make Sigewinne as bad as Dehya so that HYV can put Sigewinne on standard banner.

She really should be a 4 star.. Also would it makes sense to make her a catalyst??

@juno3287

Ай бұрын

Yeah, her weapon would make more sense that way too, but I guess they didn’t wanna make ANOTHER hydro catalyst healer

@Shuraig7

Ай бұрын

They obviously made her not catalyst so she can’t hold TTDS

Look at the bright side guys. It makes it easier for us to go for clorinde or save for nathlan. Plus she isnt a bond of life support so anyone that has arlecchino and clorinde isnt gona be forced to pull her.

It’s a shame because I really like her design and her colour scheme, it’s pretty fresh for genshin. But I ain’t pulling Kokomi 2.0, they are both very questionable units

She might be like Baizhu where the next region's characters will make her role more significant

@redguard1607

Ай бұрын

I like your thinking

@Mango373

6 күн бұрын

let's hope so am sad

she's sigeover omg no way what a sigma skibidi fornite 😱

her kit doesnt make much sense in current meta, maybe she will shine with Natlat characters

@aeowinh

Ай бұрын

Hopefully, but she can end like Dehya a underwhelming unit that end being part of the permanent 5* pool that never revisited again to try to make her better or fit in certain team.

@seniorakxel

Ай бұрын

but thats cringe...

@Samachi727

Ай бұрын

​​​@@seniorakxelthat's pretty much what they did with Yae and it sucks lmao, Yae haver since 1st banner here, she was all bugged, your turrets used to target the fucking camp fire instead of enemies. Easily the worst electro character for like 1.2 years, and then came Nahida and Yae was finally alright, cringe

What TC? She’s a healer

If you need help pronouncing her name you can just play the damn story and the characters will say it out loud for you 🤙

@re.n8208

Ай бұрын

I play without the sound and I skip the text lol But thx for the tip I'll call her Sieg for the time being. Why bother?

@jstern25

Ай бұрын

I play in japanese

@musicaddict9058

Ай бұрын

People don't just skip genshin's mid story with autoclicker these days?

watch her eventually turn out to be a direct powercreep to kokomi lol

@3.16music

Ай бұрын

That’s not a very high standard to be honest…

@sweatymobilegamer784

Ай бұрын

Who's your dealer?

Average PDF bait gatcha character. Only a certain segment of people is pulling for this unit and it ain’t Kokomi enjoyers.

@ikoutau8889

Ай бұрын

tbf shes entirely covered unlike the other kids

@xLvsinq

Ай бұрын

shes genuinely the only child like character that actually has appeal besides to pdf shes cute everything to the namecard animations ult animations color scheme dish and has cute weapons like her gun and vaccine shot shes very love ward coded and shes fully covered unlike the others who all have their bare legs exposed

@seyenas

Ай бұрын

..have you considered some people just like adorable characters in a normal way?

@el7284

Ай бұрын

Kokomi mains stay salty about everything. Nobody likes your unit.

@chihaotran1568

Ай бұрын

Liking adorable chars doesn't always mean PDF 🙏🙏 There is platonic love, family love etc,...

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