Sicily Faction Guide: Medieval 2 Total War

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Today we discuss the faction of Sicily on Medieval 2 Total War, including its units, campaign strategy and much more!

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  • @Lankyblankman
    @Lankyblankman5 жыл бұрын

    Lugotorix abilities at glance: Cannot pronounce Arquebusiers Scares horses

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    hahaha very true

  • @PiperTMTotalWar
    @PiperTMTotalWar5 жыл бұрын

    Pavise crossbowmen are one of the best units in the game. The militia version have the exact same stats, exact they have the bonus of free upkeep in a city.

  • @danielolsson7134

    @danielolsson7134

    5 жыл бұрын

    Depending on the size of the City: 1-4

  • @kebabdefender49
    @kebabdefender494 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh... Kingdom of Sicily... A joke when an AI controls them, but its also a superpower in the hands of a player...

  • @hannibalburgers477

    @hannibalburgers477

    2 жыл бұрын

    That can be told by almost every faction, especially france

  • @mcsmash4905

    @mcsmash4905

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hannibalburgers477 try not bothering ai milan and see what happens lol

  • @ivanvoloder8114

    @ivanvoloder8114

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mcsmash4905 I allways feel like a troll when I play Milan. Just spamming crossbows.🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @davidsaville5239

    @davidsaville5239

    11 күн бұрын

    ​@ivanvoloder8114 Venice can also spam crossbows and get really good milita crossbows

  • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
    @olefredrikskjegstad59725 жыл бұрын

    You should probably just say "Peasants, you already know about them" like you do with the Siege Weapons.

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah thats true tbh, it gets a bit repetitive after a while...

  • @sethroseblood9456

    @sethroseblood9456

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered that armour upgrades make militia lines more viable late game?

  • @cosmincostinescu8386
    @cosmincostinescu83865 жыл бұрын

    A good ideea if i may, is to try to convert Cagliari and Ajaccio into towns. Thre tricky part about Sicilly is the economy which is quite weak at the beginning, plus Palermo is quite good, and Tunnis is a good Staging point for attacks against the Moors. Also going for Constantinopole is a strong move also i belive. Quite new to your channel man, love to see some good old Rome TW end MED 2. Great content keep up the good job !

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they're some very good points, and towns would make a lot of money coupled with sea trade. Glad you're enjoying the videos man, thanks for the support

  • @cosmincostinescu8386

    @cosmincostinescu8386

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also it is accurate to go for the byzantines from a historical point of view as the Normans, Who are actually a bit Franks, a bit Gallo-Romans and a bit Vikings ( a history student here who specializes in the Middle Ages and absolutely loves Roman history.

  • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

    @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cosmincostinescu8386 exactly, well the Normans are more Gallo-Romans, they were franks only in name and the real franks were very few (around 200,000 if i remember) and located mostly around Paris and Aachen, i doubt there were actually germanic franks in Normandy before and during the Norman Duchy. I find fascinating the Norman culture, how they were so powerful, they could had made an Empire if they really wanted to. Im interested in their language as well but Internet has so few articles about Old Norman, the only exception being History with Hilbert

  • @83patrick
    @83patrick3 жыл бұрын

    After playing a few VH/VH with Sicily, I found it's way easier to just storm Italy right from turn 1, starting with the Papal States and Rome and then just moving north until you have all of Italy. If you leave Cagliari and Tunis alone the Moors will not come after you until much later and by the time they come you should have over 20 settlements already and in a position where you will only lose if you do it on purpose. You will have 0 money problems that way. Now, I can concede that the fact that I only tried this when I was already very comfortable playing on VH/VH could be a big reason behind the success (though the fact that you'll have tons of cash still applies), and also, sometimes i like to role play a bit and try to keep the Pope happy, and if you also do this, then it's not the ideal approach. But the advantages are enormous because you'll have an easier game not having to bother with multiple borders and only focus North in the early game. My initial troops + a few mercs and couple of Cav reinforcements from Palermo was enough to own the whole of Italy by turn 10, including Innsbruck as well which is good to have so you can pump out Cav without having to ship them from Palermo at this point. After that you will have so much cash you can do whatever you want. Most of Sicily's early game cash problems come from the fact that you have to keep multiple armies and ships in order to Island hop all the time, if you ignore the Islands and just move 1 large force across Italy, you'll have no financial troubles whatsoever.

  • @unkownoflife5959
    @unkownoflife59594 жыл бұрын

    I played a competely different way and it worked out well too. Heres what you gotta do 1. Take Caglari and change it into a city 2. Take Tunis and keep it as a castle 3. Make sure to send good priests down to those areas 4. VERY IMPORTANT be allies with the papal states 5. Send priests down to your conqured rebel settelments, with the amount of catholic conversion, they are gaurenteed to become cardinals. 6. If florence is not taken, take it so you can have a spot in northern italy. Phase 2. Try to make allies with HRE and venice or milan vice versa. This gaurentees a saftey in northern italy for a short while. 2. (Optional) You can take Ajaccio but its highely likely milan will try to take that settlement, owned by you or not. Now that you got a good stronghold, you will begin to fight alot of battles. Phase 3. Go after the moors by attacking Algiers. They will most likely be spread out by fighting spain and porgugal so you have your advantage. Also bonus the fact you are converting these settlements to catholism, your realtions with the pope will rise signifigantly and will gain more cardinals. 2.At this point, its highely likely your allies will betray you, and with the pope loving you so much, he will problay excomunicate them allowing you to take their settlements with no problems. 3. Call a crusade on the betrayers, this allows you to gain a massive army very quickly and cheaply. Or you can call one on the moors, but you problay wont. 4.Once you start taking parts of norther italy, you will have a huge rise in your economy, allowing you to build massive armys. 5.Either change Ajaccio or florence to a castle, this is very important because you will need good units to keep controll of the northern. At this point you should of defeated the moors and have majority of nothern italy and north africa/southern peninsula. Spain and porgugal might attack you in the peninsula so dont be surprised. I also find it very hard to ally with france, and they will most likely attack you but they will problay be the only hard challenge you face. Its best to let the remaining factions attack you, that way you dont get a penalty fighting them first. IT IS CRUCIAL to keep good boy points for the pope as the papal states are your lifeline. They will help in battles and excommunicate enemys. After all that fighting, stick to fighting islamic factions or the byzantine empire (I personally never attacked them, i allied). Over time with all the populations being converted in the islamic part of the map, they will give you tons of cardinals, allowing an infinite election of sicilly cardinals as popes. Also join crusades so you can spread your empire in these islamic reigons faster. In my game, my empire looked like a crown, counquring all of the southern mape, the iberian peninsula, and all of the middle east and majorty of turkey, along with venice.

  • @chadfarrell5457

    @chadfarrell5457

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always take Ajaccio and then give it to the Papal states to improve relations

  • @Danymok
    @Danymok4 жыл бұрын

    No matter what team you choose or where your location is, Sicily will hunt you down.

  • @tonicus123
    @tonicus1232 ай бұрын

    As an Italian heritage American, I feel you on the pronunciation. My Mom and grandparents look at me funny when I try.

  • @JudoMoniz
    @JudoMoniz3 жыл бұрын

    My favourite faction roster. I get great cav, good frontline infantry and long range missiles

  • @Tallypox
    @Tallypox2 жыл бұрын

    Ally with Papal States, HRE, and Milan. Venice has always been devious when I play Sicily, and whittling them down and taking them out can catapult your economy into superpower-level status, making it much easier to consolidate all of Italy.

  • @snowisthebestweather
    @snowisthebestweather5 жыл бұрын

    I agree with not pushing north, especially since you only share a border with the Imperials at the start. They will inevitably attack, but they'll probably only send herds of town and spear militia, so dealing with them shouldn't be too difficult. I also like the plan to take the islands early, though I wouldn't be worried about the Moors attacking them if you're also attacking them in North Africa. Spain and Portugal might try it, but you'll be pushing into their homeland soon enough. Once you have the western Mediterranean secured, you can convert them to cities and make a bunch more money from them. Once I have a good army in North Africa, I would probably also hop across that sea to the East of Italy, take Ragusa, hopefully make peace with Venice (but if not, just defend there), and then start going after the Byzantines. Kinda silly to only attack on one front once the war economy really gets going. Especially with all the money that will be coming in from Timbuktu and Arguin. Egypt is so far away, I'm not sure I would bother unless they start sending big armies toward Tripoli.

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think pushing north is just a bad idea. I like your idea about moving to the East of Italy, especially as the Byzantines can be fairly weak by that point

  • @Brugar18

    @Brugar18

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 I think a good idea would probably be taking away Genoa, maybe Venice to weaken their economy, otherwise they can become a bit annoying with their sieges and if they get excomunicated, they can also not be afraid to cross papal states and try take on Naples. In any case, I currently play as Sicily and now im at the late game, most of the time the economy was shit, and got ~20 settlements left to take over including Jerusalem and less than 60 turns, but I'm thinking of epanding through all the towns that have ports directed to mediterenian and probably sail of to Americas.

  • @mikedeck8381
    @mikedeck838111 ай бұрын

    Heres the thing with going after Timbuktu. If the Moors don't hold it you have send a half stack army after it and it takes 10 turns to get there and you need to have one priest as well. It will take another 10 turns or so of supporting your army and paying for improvements, merchants for the settlement before you start seeing a positive cash flow. It takes like thirty turns for it to payoff. Not saying it's a bad strategy but ask yourself if that's the best use for those resources early on or if it can wait.

  • @Vanillastump
    @Vanillastump3 жыл бұрын

    I'm on a Sicily game, and ended up taking Florence as no one else did. Might gift it to the Pope for some brownie points. Or use it as a starting point to move north without having to march through Rome.

  • @ardypangihutan3653
    @ardypangihutan36538 ай бұрын

    1. Spam priests in North Africa and fill the board of cardinals with Sicilian priests. No one beats you in papal election. 2. Always give the Papal States regular tribute and you'll have a constant perfect/outstanding relation with them. 3. Surround the coast with watch towers 4. Build fleets (2 half stacks of War Galley or Lanternas to clear the sea of pirates and intercepting enemy fleets, with some galley parked in ports to transport family members) 5. Don't worry about battles, you have a potent unit roster from early game. Just sit around and wait for others attack one of your island, beat them and offer ceasefire for 10k florins 6. Play Godfather theme song 7. Enjoy owning a giant private lake called the Mediterranean, filled with cute trading ships roaming around.

  • @omicroneridani7456
    @omicroneridani745611 ай бұрын

    A fun faction, with an intriguing starting position and a good variety of strategic developments. I must say I've enjoyed my sicilian campaign a great deal and it's likely I'll pick it again, some day.

  • @arazeth5562
    @arazeth55625 жыл бұрын

    An experienced player would probably go either for the moors and iberia or the moors and egypt at the same time, but defenetly the moors, as they're occupied by the iberians and you get a lot of money there. Probably the byzantinzes would also be a good target to attack. As sicily one should secure the mediteranian sea i would say, but that's the cool thing about sicily. You have so many options to expand, you're in the middle of the map. About the units, I kind of like faction with access to decent composite bow units (like sicily or venice), because even though crossbows are beast, they have problems firing over troops or battlements and also their rate of fire is slower. Composite bows don't have that problem, so it's good to have this option. And they get chivalric knights, norman knights and good heavy infantry. So all in all one of the strongest faction in my opinion. Sicily defenetly has something to it.

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I like a faction with good bow units as well, and I agree that Sicily is one of the stronger factions in the game for sure

  • @arazeth5562

    @arazeth5562

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 Btw congrats on 1k!

  • @samm9425
    @samm94255 жыл бұрын

    I'm playing as HRE right now, and the Papal States actually destroyed Sicily single-handedly. They took Palermo, Naples, and Cagliari.

  • @orangvii3633

    @orangvii3633

    5 жыл бұрын

    I did that in my most recent papal campaign,I also took Milan, Genoa, and the hre holding in Italy, but my save was corrupted, but I was sieging venice

  • @Lankyblankman
    @Lankyblankman5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Lugo, are you doing a qna when you hit 1k and will you answer questions that are sorta personal?

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah thats what I'm thinking of doing. I'm going to put out a quick video when we hit 1k which just explains what the general plan is, but I'd like to do a QnA. It might not happen for a while though because I'm extremely busy at the moment. I don't mind answering personal questions, as long as they aren't really personal (I'll put more information out about that when I actually decide the make the qna though)

  • @Lankyblankman

    @Lankyblankman

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 Haha you're 4 subs off at the time of this comment

  • @fernandobiondo213
    @fernandobiondo2134 жыл бұрын

    Put a bit more emphasis on the "e" when you say condottieri, but your pronounciation is pretty good, all things considered.

  • @petrsacristao8885
    @petrsacristao88855 жыл бұрын

    you are amazing guy wow :D so much tenacity :D cg

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @tigersharkwoo
    @tigersharkwoo3 жыл бұрын

    mounted norman knights are also the fastest heavy cav in the game

  • @somerandommanontheinternet4620
    @somerandommanontheinternet46205 жыл бұрын

    You should do a faction guide series for the Rome Total War Barbarian Invasion factions

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't know as much about BI to be honest, so if I was going to I'd have to do a lot of research beforehand. It's certainly a consideration though

  • @DoktorAmfas

    @DoktorAmfas

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 I can write you scripts. I play a lot ob BI xD.

  • @onlyws6810
    @onlyws68107 ай бұрын

    So I went completely opposite to what Lugo said... I took the two western islands, capped that small castle just east of Naples (across the water below Ragusa) then took Venice, Florence, Milan and Genoa because the milanese and the Venicians had sent their armies out into France and Hungary, I had and alliance with the pope from turn 1 so I wasn't excommunicated and I had an alliance with the holy Roman's as well, I then took Tunis and now want to take Tripoli as well, after that I'm not sure what to do, I could take rome and push the HRE out afterwards, or leave them be as my allies and either push into France, or take north Africa... tough decision

  • @hansbauns
    @hansbauns5 жыл бұрын

    approved by don vito.

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    hahaha

  • @EricTheActor805
    @EricTheActor8054 жыл бұрын

    Why not try and take Rhodes early as well? If you control Sicily, Corsica, Sardinia and Rhodes early, you basically control the Mediterranean I agree Tunis and Timbuktu are key for Sicily

  • @derrickbonsell
    @derrickbonsell10 ай бұрын

    Take on the Byzantines and eventually turn Constantinople into your capital. It's what the Normans in Sicily wanted to do the whole time. Actually Sicily seemed to serve as a powerbase for people who wanted to take over the Byzantines many times.

  • @Mvenven
    @Mvenven2 жыл бұрын

    Going for the Islands always makes me go broke, the only way I've been able to succeed as Sicily is by going for it all and attacking Constantinople and establishing my empire from there

  • @mcsmash4905

    @mcsmash4905

    Жыл бұрын

    sicily is very much an excercise in naval warfare and logistics

  • @alicaganc.6644
    @alicaganc.66445 жыл бұрын

    Do you think a M.T.W 3 going to relase in these years? Or an a E.T.W 2 ? Maybe a warhammer 3 after three kingdoms? What do you think about next total war game after current projects? Sorry for bad english but ı think u can understand me.(also first comment xd)

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's very hard to tell. Personally I don't mind too much, I think that Creative Assembly need to fix a lot of the game mechanics before creating many new projects

  • @alicaganc.6644

    @alicaganc.6644

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 ı think too, ı loved etw but It has a lot of bugs and game was almost unplayable ;(

  • @Darkdaej

    @Darkdaej

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 Meh, the modding community does a great job fixing the Vanilla experience :P

  • @datlzrd2729
    @datlzrd27295 жыл бұрын

    1K! Been here since 250

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the support man, much appreciated!

  • @specioustest4321
    @specioustest4321 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know if you'll ever answer this, but would Sicily be a good faction to make a trade empire with? They have some solid militia troops, so I could just use a bunch of towns and make trade pacts and such. Thoughts on this strategy?

  • @ivanvoloder8114

    @ivanvoloder8114

    Жыл бұрын

    I like to roleplay Sicily as a new established Norman empire that has a dream to conqure the whole Mediteran and become the new military and economic superpower. Yes you can make tons of money if you capture all the costal cities in the Mediteran all from Iberia to Palestine.

  • @michaelaburns734
    @michaelaburns7343 жыл бұрын

    I am 33% Italian and you said it right.

  • @sampatchen9861
    @sampatchen98615 жыл бұрын

    Hey have you thought about making a discord?

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ive actually got a small announcement about that in a couple of days...

  • @MelkorGG
    @MelkorGG5 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way for me to message you privately, email, discord steam? Me and a few other KZreadrs of our size are trying to organise something Total War related and need a few more youtubers. I know you said you will wait until after your exams before collabing, which is fine, but a way to at least message you now would be great. : )

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was actually going to message you very soon about collabs anyway. My email address is eleutheroi32@gmail.com I can also tell you my steam username on the email as well. Thanks

  • @thatgermanguy7026

    @thatgermanguy7026

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 just a quick thing btw Logotuorix I think youtube has message featute, so you can send him your email without risking a unrelated person annoyingly messaging your email. This isn't any of business at all, but I just wanted to give you some advice. Hope it helps and I hope I am not too intrusive.

  • @jackharris9
    @jackharris92 жыл бұрын

    I have found the Italian city states to be the most treacherous especially Venice

  • @ivanvoloder8114
    @ivanvoloder8114 Жыл бұрын

    Sicily is my least favorite of the Italian states but only for the reason is that the recruitment pool of the dismounted norman knights is so small. Max pool is only 3. If it was 6 then it would be my favorite.

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy5 жыл бұрын

    Captured the islands and Tunis. Allied with the Vatican, HRE, and Milian, having very good relationships, hardly claimed any territory...all except for the pope declared war on me for literally no reason...then the moors attacked and the Spanish and the french and the venicians...like God damn, I haven't done anything yet.

  • @Darkdaej

    @Darkdaej

    5 жыл бұрын

    Control the College of Cardinals - if you choose who gets to be pope, they become an invaluable puppet state :P The other factions might not like that though XD

  • @Don-ds3dy

    @Don-ds3dy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Darkdaej that might explain why everyone ganked me :/

  • @Darkdaej

    @Darkdaej

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Don-ds3dy That might be why :P remember that the pope can force them to declare war on others via crusades and can excommunicate them. Having majority control of the College indirectly gives YOU that power...so yeah, the other Catholic factions will pretty much hate you and your reputation will go down to "Very Untrustworthy" really fast.

  • @russel8620
    @russel86205 жыл бұрын

    Thousandth subscriber yay

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    ayyyy thanks man!

  • @lorisuprifranz
    @lorisuprifranz4 жыл бұрын

    Hei Lugotorix nice try on the Italian names. Try pushing a little more on Condottieri duoble T and a bit less on the R

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for letting me know!

  • @kkhang8617
    @kkhang86174 жыл бұрын

    If you play VH, Moor, Milan, Venice, Holy Roman, France, Egypt, Bynzantine will declare war on you. DANG

  • @pavolp.6527
    @pavolp.65273 жыл бұрын

    Lugo, I know you read comments. Listen up. You said the Papal states will protect me? In turn 20 I got jumped by Venice, Milan and HRE. When I tried one counterattack Pope asks ME to stop. Their attacks continue. F*ck playing as Sicily xD

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    3 жыл бұрын

    ahh yess to be fair the Papal states can be a bit unfair like that, thats super unlucky though

  • @neimenovani7256
    @neimenovani7256 Жыл бұрын

    Should have watched this 72 h ago

  • @pintarganteng422
    @pintarganteng4225 жыл бұрын

    Yo man can you do how to defend your city from mongols???

  • @Brugar18

    @Brugar18

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lots of late period, well armoured troops and archers, some archers and balista or cannon towers, some towns will still be overrun and you will have to retake them since the forces like to be close to one another, not much you can do against the mongols and timurids

  • @RecklessInternetting

    @RecklessInternetting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't be nearby when they turn up

  • @gioojisba2758
    @gioojisba27585 жыл бұрын

    Italian spear militia. One of the strongest early game units, fucking beasts, have decent armour, only one defence less than armoured sergeants, for 60 coins less. *yeahhh they are good for holding settlements*. Me, an italian: **facepalms**

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    hahahaha, yes that only applies to the game

  • @gioojisba2758

    @gioojisba2758

    5 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @vanessaschlick3982
    @vanessaschlick39825 жыл бұрын

    How old are you?

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    19 :)

  • @EricTheActor805

    @EricTheActor805

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lugotorix6173 19! I thought you were like 50! Just kidding

  • @alexanderthegreat1356
    @alexanderthegreat13565 жыл бұрын

    Empire total war faction guides..?......with darthmod maybe?..

  • @lugotorix6173

    @lugotorix6173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Im sorry but I haven't really played Empire so I wouldn't be able to make detailed guides about the factions, same goes with DarthMod. In the future if I play them more then I'll do guides on them :)

  • @alexanderthegreat1356

    @alexanderthegreat1356

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lugotorix cool mate, can’t wait for the m2tw campaign👍

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