SHUDDERWOCK IS NUTS! Blizzard... Just... Why? - Standard Constructed - The Witchwood

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  • @ConstantineIII
    @ConstantineIII6 жыл бұрын

    -Plays shudderwock once- All right, time to go finish my degree and start a family while these animations play!

  • @pinchemaje748

    @pinchemaje748

    6 жыл бұрын

    Constantine III basically

  • @rogoth01themasterwizard11

    @rogoth01themasterwizard11

    6 жыл бұрын

    you forgot to pay off the mortgage and sort out the life insurance

  • @AnAngelineer

    @AnAngelineer

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's Grim Patron annoying animation 2.0, now even longer and more annoying. Between that and everyone else playing cubelock, the game is going back to being annoying and without diversity once again. Feel free to hate me for that subjective opinion, but I don't like seeing the game going back to those things. How can Blizzard do the same mistakes again?

  • @jijiooze

    @jijiooze

    6 жыл бұрын

    Optimistically, it's not diverse but it's extremely fun. Maybe it's still too early on, but whenever Shudderwock comes down, I just get the thrill, even if it's not my own Shudderwock. Exact same thing with pre-nerf Yogg two years ago.

  • @aleksanderaid9145

    @aleksanderaid9145

    6 жыл бұрын

    The difference between Yog and Shudderwock is that Yog cast "Random" spells for each spell cast, that made it immensely fun and fair in my opinion. But Shudderwock casts the "Same" battlecries which were cast this game, taking away the fun and crazy (but often very helpful) randomness, simply turning it into a 99% certain win condition. PS. I stopped playing hearthstone about 1.5 years ago and after seeing these crazy decks which need certain very expensive cards to send your opponents into oblivion (turning the game basically into pay-to-win)... I am honestly happy that I quit :D

  • @Saronite
    @Saronite6 жыл бұрын

    -Me go face!- -Hey everyone ... Get in here!- -I'm in charge now!- My jaws that bite, My claws that catch!

  • @wodo4742

    @wodo4742

    6 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the: "Tonight, a tale of...."

  • @Orbital_Dew

    @Orbital_Dew

    6 жыл бұрын

    bow down before the god of death

  • @valik7907

    @valik7907

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bring out your dead

  • @creeperfriendlyhugs

    @creeperfriendlyhugs

    6 жыл бұрын

    Who am I? none of your business!

  • @anthonystorm3392

    @anthonystorm3392

    6 жыл бұрын

    You cant hide FOREVER!

  • @kingdavey90
    @kingdavey906 жыл бұрын

    "How Long can this go on..."

  • @GlossRabban

    @GlossRabban

    6 жыл бұрын

    David Harris Seems like it can go on forever. And well spotted:)

  • @someone-yw2qw

    @someone-yw2qw

    6 жыл бұрын

    we have been warned

  • @LimeyLassen

    @LimeyLassen

    6 жыл бұрын

    free me

  • @Lumpyducksauce
    @Lumpyducksauce6 жыл бұрын

    How is this video only 25 minutes long? Is the whole video literally one Shudderwock battlecry?

  • @ChristFollower00

    @ChristFollower00

    6 жыл бұрын

    I foresee a future where aggro exists as the savior to destroy the evil Shudderwock abomination. For the face damage!

  • @Lumpyducksauce

    @Lumpyducksauce

    6 жыл бұрын

    Regan Childers Baku Hunter: the chosen one

  • @scorpionMK999

    @scorpionMK999

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Mighty Turtle say hi to healing rain

  • @spencer6091

    @spencer6091

    6 жыл бұрын

    just make a card with something like this card must be hit at least X times on opponent's turn or else something huge will be triggered when your turn comes

  • @mellowhero3520

    @mellowhero3520

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure the final shudderwock was about 8 minutes.

  • @TheRustyCopper
    @TheRustyCopper6 жыл бұрын

    Animation so long Shudderwock rotated out of standard by the end of it

  • @rasmusgarbonzo1411

    @rasmusgarbonzo1411

    6 жыл бұрын

    Roberto Palomba LOL

  • @mellowhero3520

    @mellowhero3520

    6 жыл бұрын

    8 to 10 minute OTK. I'm actually mad.

  • @nikolas__
    @nikolas__6 жыл бұрын

    I though it would be a fun meme deck when trump talked about the combo so it was the first deck I tried. God was I wrong. Day5 edit: Apparently it was due to being the start of the expac and the deck actually sucks lol. Maybe it's better in the future tho.

  • @DarthSenorQueso

    @DarthSenorQueso

    6 жыл бұрын

    hahahahaha 100% winrate except in mirrors

  • @Da5kone001

    @Da5kone001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hebi-chan it’s a pretty bad deck that gets beat most of time by faster combo decks aggro decks or midrange it’s got a 47% win rate on ladder

  • @acbthr3840

    @acbthr3840

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its got a 47% winrate because most people don't include healing rain and heavy anti-aggro tools. Included, it facerolls over aggro decks effortlessly

  • @scalpingsnake

    @scalpingsnake

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeahsame

  • @Bro-ws1xf

    @Bro-ws1xf

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have a 100% winrate against Shudderwock decks because my 1 opponent played it with 6 on board :')

  • @GothaBillsAndDeath
    @GothaBillsAndDeath6 жыл бұрын

    They.... really need to make sure redundant card effects aren't shown. People will just stop playing and quit from match if they have to sit through a slow-death.

  • @Cerdmasterjgcc

    @Cerdmasterjgcc

    6 жыл бұрын

    A Better Tomorrow I come for hearthstone for ten minute matches Not 25 minuet matcjes

  • @OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa

    @OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa

    6 жыл бұрын

    The issue with that is you'd have to code it on a case-by-case basis, since some battlecries do matter when they appear multiple times, and others don't.

  • @arandombard1197

    @arandombard1197

    6 жыл бұрын

    25 minute turns'

  • @GothaBillsAndDeath

    @GothaBillsAndDeath

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah not even a complex raza late game where you trying to counter your opponent to late game. It's just a shit-ton of animations.

  • @danielduncan6806

    @danielduncan6806

    6 жыл бұрын

    Perfectly fine by me if they quit mid effect. It would save us BOTH some time. What? You think I want to sit through that animation? No, nobody, not even the people playing, wants to sit through that animation.

  • @Kingshadowac
    @Kingshadowac6 жыл бұрын

    I rather face pre nerf Yogg then this.

  • @ramonestefano

    @ramonestefano

    6 жыл бұрын

    Edo Edi Essum sequentially?

  • @srtn1137

    @srtn1137

    6 жыл бұрын

    you would rather face pre nerf yogg than shudderwock ? how about shudder-yogg ?

  • @zachary3879

    @zachary3879

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agro paly has higher wintate btw hs replay look the average winrate for shuddee shaman in 47% hsreplay.net/decks/#playerClasses=SHAMAN&gameType=RANKED_STANDARD&sortBy=winrate

  • @jetvoidweller

    @jetvoidweller

    6 жыл бұрын

    Win rate isn't what's being discussed tho

  • @webbowser8834

    @webbowser8834

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yogg did nothing wrong...

  • @user-bs4fb5jc7i
    @user-bs4fb5jc7i6 жыл бұрын

    6:30 the crushing wall gasm

  • @LimeyLassen

    @LimeyLassen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of that time Trump cleared an undertaker board with a Flame Leviathan but still lost anyway

  • @jakemedcalf6527
    @jakemedcalf65276 жыл бұрын

    He finally got one right

  • @javyz6197

    @javyz6197

    6 жыл бұрын

    For a couple of weeks, before Blizzard nerfs it.

  • @melodygritsipis2735
    @melodygritsipis27356 жыл бұрын

    Ben Brode knew this existed. In an interview about the witchwood reveal, he mentioned talking to a member of team five who was playing shudderwock. . "I was walking around the design pit, and somebody was playing Shudderwock, and they played Shudderwock and summoned an exact copy [thanks to Sarnite Chain Gang], and then apparently they played Grumble, Worldshaker earlier in the game," says Brode. "Grumble's a kinda underused Legendary that says 'Return your other minions to your hand. They cost (1).' So it returned the exact copy to his hand. Now he has a 1-cost Shudderwock, and each Shudderwock he plays summons a copy and returns a 1-cost Shudderwock to his hand. So now he has infinite 1-mana Shudderwocks." "I said, 'Guys, whatever you've done to make this combo possible, change it now.' And they said, 'Oh, this is all shipping in Witchwood.' I was like, 'NOOOOOOOOOO!' [laughs] A hundred percent, I'm terrified. They've assured me that things are going to be fine" Oh how wrong he was. (Edit: heres the full link to the article www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesradar.com/amp/hearthstone-game-director-ben-brode-is-terrified-of-this-new-combo-made-possible-by-the-witchwood/#ampshare=www.gamesradar.com/hearthstone-game-director-ben-brode-is-terrified-of-this-new-combo-made-possible-by-the-witchwood/ )

  • @hurlubu

    @hurlubu

    6 жыл бұрын

    why is he wrong because a combo deck is competitive ? Like christ what's the issue here.

  • @lepathewarrior4445

    @lepathewarrior4445

    6 жыл бұрын

    hurlubu Because animation times can stop your enemy from interacting at all

  • @hurlubu

    @hurlubu

    6 жыл бұрын

    uuuuh... what once you land the combo that has too long animation time you already won who cares. Enemy is dead.

  • @HulkHodnFtw

    @HulkHodnFtw

    6 жыл бұрын

    you kidding? this combo is the most broken thing since the beginning of hearthstone. there is no counterplay to it. it is 0% interactive

  • @mellowhero3520

    @mellowhero3520

    6 жыл бұрын

    HulkHodnFtw It's called "Win before turn 9." Aggro counter-meta says hello.

  • @Wahligma
    @Wahligma6 жыл бұрын

    I really like that check list Jeeves you included, Jens, really nice touch.

  • @lordhuebi
    @lordhuebi6 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it seems like they don't do any play testing at all.

  • @gabriel_cooper

    @gabriel_cooper

    6 жыл бұрын

    maybe they did this in purpose,we have seen classes the were really week get broken cards before,priest in the last cycle is a good example,remember when purify was introduced? Then they gave him a machine gun in KotFT and suddenly it was broken. Pretty sure its the same thing here,that's just how blizzard works,they make the week classes broken then take those broken abilities away for a while and then give them back.

  • @lavamaster2863

    @lavamaster2863

    6 жыл бұрын

    Priest's machine gun is super balanced compared to this cancer

  • @TrimutiusToo

    @TrimutiusToo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Priest machine gun is much more cancerous than this OTK... Shudderwock OTK is about as strong as Quest Mage... Destroys Control, but loses terribly to aggro.

  • @zachary3879

    @zachary3879

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guys this decks is actual trash against hunter and those who say toast won every game. He knows how to play against agro plus he got super lucky. This deck has 47% winrate on hs replay on average hsreplay.net/decks/#playerClasses=SHAMAN&gameType=RANKED_STANDARD&sortBy=winrate

  • @TrimutiusToo

    @TrimutiusToo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually the list that we came up with on Kripp's Stream yesterday is better, with 53%... but still not even near OP level...

  • @Fiiischinator
    @Fiiischinator6 жыл бұрын

    I like how everyone acts like this was obvious, the last review before release was full of people saying he's overrating it.

  • @Zoomat4

    @Zoomat4

    6 жыл бұрын

    You do are aware that blizzard can test their cards before releasing them right ?

  • @Fiiischinator

    @Fiiischinator

    6 жыл бұрын

    Louis Canales They obviously didn't come up with this combo, most people didn't.

  • @DeadlyLight101

    @DeadlyLight101

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fiiischinator If Blizzard didn't come up with this by looking up all their standard battlecries, then I'm severely disappointed

  • @Zoomat4

    @Zoomat4

    6 жыл бұрын

    This combo was discovered literally the minute the card was announced, if they didn't then they are totally incompetent. No most likely they did what the pretty much do every expansion : create a stupidly overpowered and braindead deck so everyone buys new cards and plays the game to test it and then they nerf it into oblivion.

  • @icymcspicy9511

    @icymcspicy9511

    6 жыл бұрын

    There is literally an interview with ben brode saying he was worried about this card interacting with grumble and chain gang a week before release. Stop with your fake news bullshit

  • @Locke19901
    @Locke199016 жыл бұрын

    That crushing walls was LOLZ

  • @MMT399561
    @MMT3995616 жыл бұрын

    Jesus, that deck...Stuff like jade was cancer, but this? This appears broken, at least for now. Maybe there will be an anti Shudderwock deck in the near future...or this card will be nerfed into oblivion.

  • @rapidcore100

    @rapidcore100

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not broken, it's just boring

  • @theodormoise3351

    @theodormoise3351

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its not interactive. Ill will be nerfed.

  • @restlessfrager

    @restlessfrager

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's completely lopsided, aggro is hardly a counter because of the amount of taunts the is.

  • @MMT399561

    @MMT399561

    6 жыл бұрын

    True, it is boring, but the big problem with Shudderwock Shaman is that this deck kills control decks like there is no tomorrow. Only thing that can beat Shudderwock is something fast, so that the Shudder Shaman can´t get all the Battlecries in place....which in turn forces the meta to become super aggro and I really, really don´t want a only aggro meta tbh.

  • @timothyturner3195

    @timothyturner3195

    6 жыл бұрын

    MMT399561 yesterday with cubelock I never lose against shudderwock... to slow.. with doomguard you win before he plays his combo.. and odd hunter literally destroys shuderwock..

  • @BROWNMANJEF
    @BROWNMANJEF6 жыл бұрын

    it took literally less than 24 hours for this card to ruin the entire ladder

  • @Da5kone001

    @Da5kone001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Top Lad ladder is just ruined with this 47% win rate deck ! Gasp!

  • @Da5kone001

    @Da5kone001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hug0Pro I don’t play shaman but interesting read nonetheless seems like a mighty big conclusion to come to but w/e best of luck to you

  • @arnowisp6244

    @arnowisp6244

    6 жыл бұрын

    Da5kone001 Until everyone realizes the proper order and adds all the anti aggro cards.

  • @demonduck4269

    @demonduck4269

    6 жыл бұрын

    Da5kone001 Expansions been out a day and your bringing up a winrate for a deck thats not even optimized yet

  • @wurgel1

    @wurgel1

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Da5kone001 Could you please give your source? because my source says the Elemental-Shudderwock deck sits on 60% winrate in rank 5 to legend. metastats.net/deck/35e6493a-379d-4be6-a472-b88d181f4a59/last4/ The combo is small and works with both aggro and control styles. So unless you actively took the worst deck with Shudderwock in it for that number, i have to guess you made the number up.

  • @charlesgray6385
    @charlesgray63856 жыл бұрын

    Cheers for the waiter edit Jen. Keep the small little newbie tid bits coming!

  • @Paranoiddruid2

    @Paranoiddruid2

    6 жыл бұрын

    This!

  • @Rathial
    @Rathial6 жыл бұрын

    Its like what if Antonidas infinite was mixed with our savior Yog turns out its pretty boring D:

  • @Rudepetsclub
    @Rudepetsclub6 жыл бұрын

    Aw, that jeeves helper in the corner is great

  • @KartoffelKonig
    @KartoffelKonig6 жыл бұрын

    Shudderwock so OP ! He is winning against budget decks on Rank 20 !! Oh and btw I have been there live in the stream and he lost I think even more than half of his games to randomly mashed together arena-like decks

  • @peterkanion6153

    @peterkanion6153

    6 жыл бұрын

    LOL actually true

  • @oscarcabrejosvilchez4703

    @oscarcabrejosvilchez4703

    6 жыл бұрын

    United Potatoes Watch Toast stream.

  • @syntheticmemez7744
    @syntheticmemez77446 жыл бұрын

    My jaws 😬👈 that bite👅🍆, my claws 🖐🗡 that CATCH 😈🎣

  • @troggle6545

    @troggle6545

    6 жыл бұрын

    cringe

  • @raoulduke1440

    @raoulduke1440

    6 жыл бұрын

    Synthetic Memez 🍆?

  • @syntheticmemez7744

    @syntheticmemez7744

    6 жыл бұрын

    Raoul Duke Hey, don't judge

  • @arithmagendergender594

    @arithmagendergender594

    6 жыл бұрын

    Synthetic Memez get the fuck out nope

  • @paulboard8221

    @paulboard8221

    6 жыл бұрын

    Synthetic Memez how could you say something so controversial yet so brave

  • @RazalasTrebla
    @RazalasTrebla6 жыл бұрын

    The "Jaw that bites, Claws that catch" man!

  • @javyz6197
    @javyz61976 жыл бұрын

    14:10 That negative synergy though xD xD

  • @jwu89
    @jwu896 жыл бұрын

    Dirty Rat, come back to us....

  • @LordRydag

    @LordRydag

    6 жыл бұрын

    Interro they can just grumble it lol

  • @mattisvicious6069

    @mattisvicious6069

    6 жыл бұрын

    LordRydag dirty rat is two mana, how much is grumble? Exactly idiot

  • @OWA_Freerunning

    @OWA_Freerunning

    6 жыл бұрын

    LordRydag well, what if you dirty fat his Grumble?

  • @EnderEYEx

    @EnderEYEx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good idea. I think it should be moved to classic set

  • @2ZH
    @2ZH6 жыл бұрын

    Fun and interactive

  • @shiftur2308
    @shiftur23086 жыл бұрын

    Found that the deck just gets even better if you include Ice Fishing and two Brrlocs. You get more ways to prevent damage from aggro, stop Vinecleaver, stall while waiting for more mana/to draw removal options, make Shudderwock freeze the board. Brrlocs are used over Glacial Shard because they have their own card draw in a single Ice Fishing and don't get drawn by Sandbinder

  • @totallynotminx4682
    @totallynotminx46826 жыл бұрын

    Trump! I have seen and experimented with a Shudderwock deck that is essentially the same as yours, but it has one Lifedrinker for the combo and one baleful banker, so no fatigue, and you get more shudderwock if you mess up.

  • @ds2587
    @ds25876 жыл бұрын

    Shudderwock was my free legendary lol.

  • @moogleking

    @moogleking

    6 жыл бұрын

    same we have to make shaman now

  • @oldnick9437

    @oldnick9437

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah same. Couldn't be bothered with this cancer so I just shoved it in a modified elemental deck. Hasn't done too bad so far, and at least I'll survive it if Wock gets nerfed to once per game

  • @FrontierChampion

    @FrontierChampion

    6 жыл бұрын

    got one too but rather not play this cancer, like Trump said how the heck did this pass testing?

  • @borkbork4374
    @borkbork43746 жыл бұрын

    God I wish coldlight oracle didn't rotate out. Mill rogue was born just to murder this deck

  • @TheJamieellis

    @TheJamieellis

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yup. I've been toying with a cthun version in wild, getting shudder to repeat the buff battlecries and then dropping a 30/30 cthun and mill decks ruin it. Shame really :/

  • @billypurkiss
    @billypurkiss6 жыл бұрын

    The storm reference at the start is very funny. Good job trump.

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn6 жыл бұрын

    Can´t you time it so you start the chain when your turn runs out and then the animation time eats your opponents turns time? Or almost?

  • @justvibin338
    @justvibin3386 жыл бұрын

    THE RANK20MAN

  • @zerodateX
    @zerodateX6 жыл бұрын

    He is probably going to get the yog treatment to slow him down. Most likely a nerf so he can only use any battlecry once.

  • @Iamaveryscarydude

    @Iamaveryscarydude

    6 жыл бұрын

    Unique Battlecrys?

  • @zerodateX

    @zerodateX

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah so that he cant put a copy of himself in your hand and create two taunt divine shield copies each turn for one mana.

  • @TimoRutanen

    @TimoRutanen

    6 жыл бұрын

    It will still be a '6/6 divine shield, taunt, create a copy in your hand that costs 1' for 2 mana every turn. One could almost say 'infinite value', if you only could play another one for 2 more mana. Which you can't.

  • @BaphomentIsAwsome666
    @BaphomentIsAwsome6666 жыл бұрын

    Very fun and interactive deck, I love being able to go do other things well the animations finish.

  • @diegolahad
    @diegolahad10 ай бұрын

    someone else remembering old metas and combos with our buddy Trump ?

  • @gotchakid2248
    @gotchakid22486 жыл бұрын

    what a great time to make millmurloc wild

  • @matthewvuldis821

    @matthewvuldis821

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are very right about that.

  • @neilu7132

    @neilu7132

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the dirty rat rotation ;)

  • @passels6513
    @passels65136 жыл бұрын

    MY JAWS THAT WHITE, MY CLAWS DETACH

  • @simbadas1234

    @simbadas1234

    6 жыл бұрын

    i think he says "my jaws that bite, my claws that catch"

  • @LargeBanana

    @LargeBanana

    6 жыл бұрын

    the joke goes right over your head.

  • @vla120699

    @vla120699

    6 жыл бұрын

    r/whoooooooosh

  • @osmanpasa-toyotayaris1968

    @osmanpasa-toyotayaris1968

    6 жыл бұрын

    Inb4 it gets edited

  • @passels6513

    @passels6513

    6 жыл бұрын

    The double whoosh

  • @ViewtifulJosh388
    @ViewtifulJosh3886 жыл бұрын

    The intro finally fits perfectly with this deck.

  • @Adamdaman3333
    @Adamdaman33336 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to wait for rope, you can just spam click the shudderwock clones on the board when they are highlighted in green and it will play them when they are returned to hand

  • @deathsoal
    @deathsoal6 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to Waitwood bois!

  • @Autocratical
    @Autocratical6 жыл бұрын

    T H E L A T E M A N

  • @TehBuhb
    @TehBuhb6 жыл бұрын

    24:10 Anyone notice Shudderwock getting lone champion's effect even though there's another Shudderwock on board?

  • @icycheesecake5519
    @icycheesecake55196 жыл бұрын

    I quite literally went and made lunch while a turn of shudders went off.

  • @AntoineBandele
    @AntoineBandele6 жыл бұрын

    I've discovered that Elemental Mage is a good counter to Shudderwock Shaman, so long as you can get to Jaina by turn 9. My win rate against Shudderwock with my mage is 100% right now.

  • @dimitarchavdarov8680
    @dimitarchavdarov86806 жыл бұрын

    did u teamed up with hearthstone mathematicks chanel :D ?

  • @eddyjimenez7655
    @eddyjimenez76556 жыл бұрын

    I’m new. What does prereq 1A, 1B, and 1C? Is there a 2A, 2B, and 2C?

  • @papptitusz5001
    @papptitusz50016 жыл бұрын

    What do you think, is novice angeneer a good replacement for bloodmage? If not pls tell me cuz I am freetoplay but i have shutterwock and grumbeling and the others

  • @TheOriginalQwazzy
    @TheOriginalQwazzy6 жыл бұрын

    "Stay a while and listen..."

  • @him_That_is_me
    @him_That_is_me6 жыл бұрын

    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!?!?!?! inb4 the card is removed from the game within the week. that or they change it to a random three battlecries played previously

  • @mrmemetastic2065

    @mrmemetastic2065

    6 жыл бұрын

    Archaon Hedgeworth but the combo is 3 battlecries 😂😂

  • @Thanos1908

    @Thanos1908

    6 жыл бұрын

    they could just make it so it respects the sequence the battlecries were originally played....hence requiring the player to play X card before Y..instead of dumping them on the board as soon as they are available.

  • @Chaoszero5332

    @Chaoszero5332

    6 жыл бұрын

    Athanasios Matsolas Then the combo won't even require a Murmuring Elemental, so it would actually be easier

  • @AaumondHD

    @AaumondHD

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chaoszero5332 Well, at least, without Murmuring Elemental, the animations wouldn't be as long !

  • @truefridge6031

    @truefridge6031

    6 жыл бұрын

    Would be fine if you can only trigger his battlecry once per turn. There are many easy ways to make this card fund and less abusable

  • @lexiknight12
    @lexiknight126 жыл бұрын

    You could use Martin the fox and fill up your opponents board with unplayable minions

  • @CugelTheClever458
    @CugelTheClever4586 жыл бұрын

    Jo should i craft this deck? I dont have Grumble and Shudderwock and only 1400 dust.

  • @avengedsevenfold065
    @avengedsevenfold0656 жыл бұрын

    If only quest mage remained to shut this machine down

  • @KaiserTheDarkWolf

    @KaiserTheDarkWolf

    6 жыл бұрын

    Boring deck agains boring deck the first to get turn 9 wins ---- not thanks XD

  • @Herr_Brechmann
    @Herr_Brechmann6 жыл бұрын

    Very easy, just change Murmuring Elemental to: Your next Elemental's *Battlecry* triggers twice. here fify @Blizzard

  • @bigchief9313
    @bigchief93136 жыл бұрын

    Can you publish a video covering the steps and strategy of the deck and how to optimize play?

  • @LZKS
    @LZKS6 жыл бұрын

    Where is our monkeybiz with the final shudderwock, Jens?

  • @alagass6466
    @alagass64666 жыл бұрын

    Haven't turned on HS yet for the expansion. Makes me not want too honestly.

  • @littlej211
    @littlej2116 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion it's not the combo that's broken- OTK decks have existed in many forms. The problem is the animation time makes it so dang boring to play, watch, and ESPECIALLY to play against. They need to speed up the animations by a lot! Maybe take out the animations and just show the cards rapid fire. The targets are random anyways so who cares about watching all the animations.

  • @clarter20
    @clarter206 жыл бұрын

    the lag when he plays lighting storm

  • @Gadjert
    @Gadjert6 жыл бұрын

    I think the soundbite from the saronite chain gang is very appropriate here. How long CAN this go on?

  • @Torskel
    @Torskel6 жыл бұрын

    I smell a massive nerf on shudderwock incoming :P

  • @javyz6197

    @javyz6197

    6 жыл бұрын

    "Your Overload cards have +1 Attack."

  • @knavenformed9436

    @knavenformed9436

    6 жыл бұрын

    They'll just fix it so it's own battlecry can't be looped.

  • @wormspeaker

    @wormspeaker

    6 жыл бұрын

    My change would be that a Shudderwock that is summoned by another Shudderwock is "inert" and does not trigger a battle cry and Life Drinker now targets a hero. When you play the Life Drinker from hand you'll obviously target the enemy hero but when cast by Shudderwock there would be a 50/50 chance of hitting your own face and healing the enemy hero.

  • @MrsNancy1297

    @MrsNancy1297

    6 жыл бұрын

    @wormspeaker the Sudderwock summoned by another doesn't trigger its battlecry, Trump just played multiple of them from hand at the same time

  • @NoeLPZC

    @NoeLPZC

    6 жыл бұрын

    Making it 10 mana prevents the double up, meaning you have to gamble saronite goes off before grumble. That would be a good start. If they made the battlecry order from highest cost to lowest then the combo would be dead entirely.

  • @proxyg4884
    @proxyg48846 жыл бұрын

    Cubelock meta > Razapriest meta > Shudderwock meta

  • @matthewvuldis821

    @matthewvuldis821

    6 жыл бұрын

    Where does Gadgetzan Pirate Warrior fit in there?

  • @TimoRutanen

    @TimoRutanen

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's always one deck above others in any meta. Always. If you could design it so that there wasn't, it would be done and the designer would be paid his weight in gold. Or bitcoin.

  • @proxyg4884

    @proxyg4884

    6 жыл бұрын

    not true, cubelock wasn't even the best deck in the cubelock meta. shudderwock was clearly poorly designed...

  • @Renewablefrog1224

    @Renewablefrog1224

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Vuldis either before or after shudderwock

  • @dr.trichome6419
    @dr.trichome64196 жыл бұрын

    Lol voodoo doll with prince that was fucking priceless hahahaha

  • @dr.badtimes3660
    @dr.badtimes36606 жыл бұрын

    *MY JAWS THAT BITE, MY CLAWS THAT CATCH INTENSIFIES*

  • @helgijacobsen1497
    @helgijacobsen14976 жыл бұрын

    if blizzard not going to nerf that card a lot of players going to quit hearthstone

  • @Channel-nc2nc

    @Channel-nc2nc

    6 жыл бұрын

    i did anyway

  • @thesomnograph7278
    @thesomnograph72786 жыл бұрын

    > Shudderwock op > 45% winrate on hsreplay Aw man Blizzard please nerf

  • @itssynergy7195

    @itssynergy7195

    6 жыл бұрын

    zhengyu mao >Day 1 of expansion >Unrefined deck >not mastered yet Still saying it's not broken?

  • @beenismchugerod

    @beenismchugerod

    6 жыл бұрын

    “Win rate = fun” Nice b8

  • @thesomnograph7278

    @thesomnograph7278

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's Synergy I love how your logic goes one way and not the other. EVERY DECK is unrefined, so no one can say anything deck op yet because no deck has been polished yet.

  • @jakemedcalf6527

    @jakemedcalf6527

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's Synergy It’s been 2 months still saying it’s broken

  • @thesomnograph7278

    @thesomnograph7278

    6 жыл бұрын

    No one is saying it's broken. It's a fair deck on ladder and an interesting matchup, nothing more.

  • @aersla1731
    @aersla17316 жыл бұрын

    Holy those animations are enough to make my just want to concede.... lmao everyone will have ptsd from "my jaws that bite, my claws that catch."

  • @oneofthepeoplehere
    @oneofthepeoplehere6 жыл бұрын

    .5 seconds after Shudderwok is spoiled: Every single HS streamer: Oh damn, infinite Shudderwock combos incoming! Blizzard, who designs and play tests sets a year in advance: We did not foresee this interaction.

  • @KT-dq6wv
    @KT-dq6wv6 жыл бұрын

    Well i do think that the combo is pretty overpowered, but that is not the problem. The problem is that the combo takes so damn long. If you want to spend 20 mins per game, this is the thing for you

  • @MrKrmel

    @MrKrmel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, Trump used to play that Warrior Deck that also took forever to win games (Dead man's Hand? Not sure about the name) and people still enjoyed that. Although just going through the battlecry animations gets old really quick...

  • @KirkPwns
    @KirkPwns6 жыл бұрын

    It'll be nerfed in a week. If it isnt, I see a lot of people quitting the game. This is ridiculous. The battlecry should only be able to trigger once.

  • @silvsilvsilv

    @silvsilvsilv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kirk Sparks Or maybe not everybody is a crybaby and just starts playing aggro to beat this deck.

  • @simbadas1234

    @simbadas1234

    6 жыл бұрын

    wow, so either you play a cancerous shudderwock deck or you play aggro, boy that sure sounds like a healthy meta that people will enjoy. /s

  • @Da5kone001

    @Da5kone001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kirk Sparks gotta nerf the deck that has a 47% win rate it’s just too good! Play the game don’t just watch KZread

  • @stevengori2130

    @stevengori2130

    6 жыл бұрын

    silvsilvsilv you say this cause you play this deck

  • @mellowhero3520

    @mellowhero3520

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kirk Sparks It's no worse than Jade Druid was, or dude Paladin, or Cubelock, or old Aggro Shaman. Or old Yog. Hearthstone tier 1 decks are often this kind of stupid powerful.

  • @Excalibursin
    @Excalibursin6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should consider sunfury protector/argus to be mixed with lone champion for a taunt? Plus it can help defend your mana tide.

  • @bgd4678
    @bgd46786 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE HELP. You see the robot in the right down?? How can i get himm Pleaseeee helpppp

  • @Klaital1
    @Klaital16 жыл бұрын

    Had to come here to actually see this combo playing out because I have wrecked every shaman I have ran into in ladder before they could pull it off.

  • @arnowisp6244

    @arnowisp6244

    6 жыл бұрын

    Klaital1 And I've been destroyed by shaman players because they keep playing healing rain, Saronite chain gang, Volcano. Primordial drake lightning storm basically all the anti aggro cards they could find and Blood drinkers.

  • @restlessfrager

    @restlessfrager

    6 жыл бұрын

    What were they running in their shudderwok decks, shattered sun clerics and defenders or argus? LOL this deck is impervious to aggro.

  • @Klaital1

    @Klaital1

    6 жыл бұрын

    restlessfrager i wasnt playing aggro even but hand druid which is basically midrange deck. Was generally killing them at around turn nine to ten.

  • @desmonddies

    @desmonddies

    6 жыл бұрын

    Klaital1 Shudderwock shaman is crushed by spiteful priest.

  • @PhantasyStarved

    @PhantasyStarved

    6 жыл бұрын

    Was watching Kripp play a (better, imo with Primordial Drake) Shudderwock deck and he had a 50% win rate. Rogues and Aggro Paladins (including a turn 4 kill) were beating him every time. And of course, the games took foreeeeeeever not just because of the combo animations but you also have to stall the game to set it up. I don't think Shudderwock decks have that great of a win rate, but it can get frustrating for your opponent because they can't resign if the end result will be their death.

  • @garytee8945
    @garytee89456 жыл бұрын

    Don't drop the nerf, Blizzard! We need the madness from our Shudder-Lord

  • @cacs2201

    @cacs2201

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gary Tee if it was only madness it would be ok, but this is broken...

  • @Hug0Pro

    @Hug0Pro

    6 жыл бұрын

    Caio Prado yogg pre nerf is an infant compared to this.

  • @cacs2201

    @cacs2201

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hug0Pro Yogg was random, thats the madness This is bizarre, but you know what you are trying to get with it

  • @mrbrightside9609

    @mrbrightside9609

    6 жыл бұрын

    Isn't comparable to Yogg. Yogg was pure, chaotic RNG. It could completely screw or win you the game. Shudderwock is purely a benefit as long as you don't play cards with negative battlecries

  • @andrzejsawpl6887
    @andrzejsawpl68876 жыл бұрын

    hey trump i kinda find somethign that could interested you you remeber dragon pirest right ? soo i was trying this deck with new dragons for pierst and that card REcruit dragon but i was missing some cards like white lady and others thing could you pls test it out for me i don't have enought dust to make cards that i need soo could you test it for me?

  • @ChristopherSmith-qv3pm
    @ChristopherSmith-qv3pm6 жыл бұрын

    "fun and interactive" *insert Ben brode laughter*

  • @peer263
    @peer2636 жыл бұрын

    Jesus watching this is the most frustrating thing everrrrrrrr. Can they please just limit the number of battlecries this thing casts?? Imagine being the opponent and having to go through all these tiring animations over and over and over zzzz

  • @mellowhero3520

    @mellowhero3520

    6 жыл бұрын

    peer263 Yup. I see a shudderwock I'm either conceding or going to make myself a sandwich. And then conceding

  • @peer263

    @peer263

    6 жыл бұрын

    Salterino Kripperino simply clicking on the side would not skip over all the animations during the game. The players would still have to wait until the entire battlecry circus is over from the start. Also dont need to be rude and calling me an idiot, idiot. -.-

  • @PiPArtemis

    @PiPArtemis

    6 жыл бұрын

    They should shorten animation times not ruin the card

  • @Zuignap
    @Zuignap6 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone explain how shudderwock works to me? Why does he need to complete these steps before playing shudderwock? Why does it not matter in what order he completes the steps?

  • @knavenformed9436

    @knavenformed9436

    6 жыл бұрын

    Use your brain for 10 minutes. It's the same as Lynessa.

  • @Zuignap

    @Zuignap

    6 жыл бұрын

    vili rantala then idk how lynessa works.

  • @Zuignap

    @Zuignap

    6 жыл бұрын

    Why does he need to play murmuring -> grumble

  • @pierrickcoquil6532

    @pierrickcoquil6532

    6 жыл бұрын

    To return the murmuring such that it costs 1 to then play it alongside shudderwock

  • @McJaews

    @McJaews

    6 жыл бұрын

    You get back a 1 mana murmuring so you can play it on the same turn as Rubberducky.

  • @harrygarris6921
    @harrygarris69216 жыл бұрын

    After about 50 games in the new expansion I still haven't seen a shudderwock deck on ladder yet.

  • @willhoe3272
    @willhoe32726 жыл бұрын

    Ok so does anyone have a good idea for replacements for Thalnos and Harrison in this deck? They don't really seem to be completely necessary, so why keep them?

  • @Chuck4230
    @Chuck42306 жыл бұрын

    Welp, I'm not playing Hearthstone anymore until this gets fixed/removed

  • @UFATCOW

    @UFATCOW

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chuck have fun next year when it rotates out I guess.

  • @linuskungalv

    @linuskungalv

    6 жыл бұрын

    UFATCOW Witchwood rotates in 2 years

  • @silvsilvsilv

    @silvsilvsilv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Crybaby

  • @Da5kone001

    @Da5kone001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chuck you just hate those 47% win rate slow ass meme combos huh ?

  • @Kingshadowac

    @Kingshadowac

    6 жыл бұрын

    Silv an dskone stop crying about people not liking shudderwock, you crybabies.

  • @aidan5720
    @aidan57206 жыл бұрын

    this is possibly the most broken card ive ever seen them print.

  • @JagEterCoola

    @JagEterCoola

    6 жыл бұрын

    Raza The Unchained? 42 Damage burst with 3 cards?

  • @aidan5720

    @aidan5720

    6 жыл бұрын

    bruh raza didnt even get used until the hero came out

  • @wesleymaes2958
    @wesleymaes29586 жыл бұрын

    Can you perhaps do a "top 10 best decks" video? I really don't know what deck to use for laddering 🙈

  • @pianoforte611
    @pianoforte6116 жыл бұрын

    The cool thing about this combo deck is that you don't have to save cards in hand, you just play them out. It's too bad about the animation time though. If there was a skip animation button this deck would be amazing (maybe it still is)

  • @kmtsvetanov
    @kmtsvetanov6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah The Witchwood is the most boring yet

  • @nikmidclayton5933

    @nikmidclayton5933

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nope, TGT by farrrr

  • @-drak-8274
    @-drak-82746 жыл бұрын

    on rank 20 I could win with basicaly anything lol

  • @lava329
    @lava3296 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone link me this fancy, little, combo helping mech at bottom right of the screen?

  • @theprogressivecynic2407
    @theprogressivecynic24076 жыл бұрын

    If you could use the tri-class discover to get Tess Graymane in this deck you would end up falling into an infinite singularity of battlecries.

  • @kriscrossx122
    @kriscrossx1226 жыл бұрын

    The knee jerk reactions to this deck are strong. Meanwhile ive beaten it 12-0 with cube From rank 5 to legend yesterday

  • @Fuzhelmet

    @Fuzhelmet

    6 жыл бұрын

    Old cancer beats new cancer...good to know.

  • @PiPArtemis

    @PiPArtemis

    6 жыл бұрын

    This happens literally every expansion. A strong deck or combo comes around and everyone bitches, pisses, and moans about it until mamaBlizzard steps in to keep the game """fair"""

  • @kriscrossx122

    @kriscrossx122

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its bating a 41% win rate atm which is awful But least its a good meme and flashy to make videos. If it gets nerfed least we get the dust back I suppose.

  • @PiPArtemis

    @PiPArtemis

    6 жыл бұрын

    I put this same deck together that Trump is running in this video. So far I'm 2-10. Its honestly a super hit-or-miss deck that can get run over very easily before you have a chance to get the combo rolling

  • @kriscrossx122

    @kriscrossx122

    6 жыл бұрын

    It loses to spiteful priest, spiteful druid, cubelock, quest rogue, odd hunter. and has a 50/50 matchup with aggro pally. It isn't anymore broken then infinite damage quest mage which required less setup to pull off. Sure it wins when I comes down and does the full combo but so did Antonidas, but you have to get there first. If you are really struggling against it play spiteful summoner in druid roll a 1 of 5 chance for tyrantus and insta win.

  • @antixerum
    @antixerum6 жыл бұрын

    *WE WILL TAKE JERUSALEM*

  • @maxmalten7749

    @maxmalten7749

    6 жыл бұрын

    antiXerum Deus Vult

  • @doktorfickle2077
    @doktorfickle20775 жыл бұрын

    I need one of those checklist assistants, got any prices?

  • @aQuilius93
    @aQuilius936 жыл бұрын

    Why is the framerate going down when Lightning Storm or Blizzard (for example) are played? These are some pretty hefty framedrops. Recording issue?

  • @jimmystevetron4428
    @jimmystevetron44286 жыл бұрын

    atleast this deck is interesting. sure beats the rank 19 cubelock net deckers spamming "well played" 24/7 thinking theyre good at the game miss playing and still winning lol

  • @samuelham4520

    @samuelham4520

    6 жыл бұрын

    JimmyStevetron it's not really that interesting. It just a control deck with a stupidly broken win condition.

  • @Orbital_Dew

    @Orbital_Dew

    6 жыл бұрын

    wait ? you talking about cubelock now ?

  • @arkham8117

    @arkham8117

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cubelock is much more interesting than this

  • @samuelham4520

    @samuelham4520

    6 жыл бұрын

    help - i'm a conspiracy theoriest nope, shudderwock is just a control deck with the shudderwock as it's win condition. It's not a "combo" because you just play the battlecries whenever and then play shudderwock and win. Shudderwock is a combo in the same way bloodreaver Guldan is a combo.

  • @iamanironman4141
    @iamanironman41416 жыл бұрын

    I like how everyone that is crying about this deck are the same people that have been playing cubelock for months

  • @simbadas1234

    @simbadas1234

    6 жыл бұрын

    you're makin some big assumptions there m8, i've never even played cubelock.

  • @DjTechFisch

    @DjTechFisch

    6 жыл бұрын

    More like everyone thats crying was spamming dude/murloc paladin and secret mage

  • @marcogutierrez54

    @marcogutierrez54

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am an Ironman I'm still going against cubelock over and over on ladder and casual... Brainless retards lol

  • @acbthr3840

    @acbthr3840

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did... did you not see the video?

  • @Avalon6565

    @Avalon6565

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was actually thinking the exact same thing while slaughtering those hypocrits and bathing in their salty tears XD

  • @IIDASHII
    @IIDASHII6 жыл бұрын

    That Cruching Walls....Ahahahaha.

  • @shayitzhary3968
    @shayitzhary39686 жыл бұрын

    You know if you were to play only these 3-4 battlecries you'll always have a board full of 8/8s: Saronite, dopple gang and the shaman hero card (not hagatha). It evolves shudderwock to an 11 cost (snowfury giant) and gives you copies of it, or the opposite, gives you copies of shudderwock and evolves them to snowfury giant.

  • @shayitzhary3968

    @shayitzhary3968

    6 жыл бұрын

    well I guess you can do it only once which makes it worse than the otk version...

  • @Strrroke
    @Strrroke6 жыл бұрын

    This combo was so obvious, no way Blizzard could overlook it. The only explanation is that it was intended, which by itself is very disturbing to say the least. A multi billion dollar company that wants their customers to suffer

  • @teewinxiao1164

    @teewinxiao1164

    6 жыл бұрын

    Геннадий Харитонов while I can't say you're wrong from my initial games as aggro it's pretty easy to kill them before they get the combo. Thats not optimal, but at least a deck archetype is feasible against it, rather than shamanstone during kharazhan

  • @Strrroke

    @Strrroke

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's beatable, I'm not going to argue, but the way this card is implemented is simply awful. Also I think Shudderwock is a problem, because it will limit design space for Blizzard in future expansions

  • @acbthr3840

    @acbthr3840

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ben Brode apparently told the design team to change it when he learned that this was a thing like three weeks ago, but they insisted it would be fine. Lol Blizzard QA

  • @teewinxiao1164

    @teewinxiao1164

    6 жыл бұрын

    Геннадий Харитонов I agree, but this isn't the first time they've coded themselves into a hole. They'll nerf it into oblivion eventually. And by eventually I mean the season before rotation in two years when they realise wild exists and they created a worse brann in terms of creative card design.

  • @mrbrightside9609

    @mrbrightside9609

    6 жыл бұрын

    The same way that nobody at blizzard could've predicted that a card that makes hero powers free would be cancer when combined with a card that makes your hero power deal 2 and refresh per card or by completely negating a classes inherent downsides by allowing them to heal for absurd amounts and cheat out powerful cards balanced by negative battlecries. For a company as big as Blizzard, you'd think they'd have more component people to see these kinda things.

  • @aajjeee
    @aajjeee6 жыл бұрын

    why are there 2 murmuring elementals? dosent that just prevent you from getting the 2 other elementals from the elemental engineer

  • @SchplatJR
    @SchplatJR6 жыл бұрын

    8:16 the unicorn is missing it’s untargetable animation.

  • @andyboi4560
    @andyboi45606 жыл бұрын

    Trump, I love how you speak; refined and college-educated. Feels like I'll get through university being a Hearthstone addict after all

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