People love the versatility of the 357 mag/ 38 Special YET they hate on 40s&w and love 10mm 😂🤣

@handsofstone1887

2 жыл бұрын

10mm on my nightstand and .40 for edc. That's how I roll.

I love the .40. This will probably be the cartridge that gets me into hand loading. I really like how you can go from mild (plinking, newbies and not as experienced) to wild (hot for defense or prepping) and still use all of my holsters(glock 20 is wider). Less of a reason to buy a 10mm glock for me when I already use .40's.

@playerzero2236

6 жыл бұрын

As a prepper, .40 will be more available than 10 mm as well. Most people carry 9, .40, or .45. I help clean up the brass around the pistol range here and the most common loads I find are those three, and a couple people that actually use a fucking .22 lol. You could not pay me to defensive carry .22 handgun. That's just... Wow. Like why?

@tenacioustanderson6223

6 жыл бұрын

.22 mag maybe, but there is too many better choices out there that shoot the big three.

@deltaforcereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Tenacious T Anderson ditto

@frknnutz

3 жыл бұрын

Lies! Lies! All lies!!! 9mm is superior because I say so! Regards, -Latte drinking, man-bun wearing, commie, 9mm fanboy

@BigD-jc6rj

3 жыл бұрын

Glocks in 40 cal are also great for caliber conversion options. You can shoot 9mm with just a conversion barrel and a 9mm magazine. You can also shoot 357 sig with same magazines and different barrel.

*It may pain a lot of people (especially those who favor the 9mm) to hear it, but the 40S&W is a much more potentially potent cartridge, than people give it credit for.* *The problem of "snap" that people complain about, (Which also gave it an undeserved bad rep) can also be mitigated through stronger recoil springs.*

@Grambo-qp4pp

6 жыл бұрын

Carry the biggest caliber u can handle

@Rob_Nasty

6 жыл бұрын

If that was the case. I'd rather carry .45(which I do). But 9mm hands down has more advantages.

@playerzero2236

6 жыл бұрын

My wife hits dead center 12 or 15 rounds with .40 s&w. I recently switched to 165gr in my shield and had a tremendous improvement in accuracy. A woman can handle a .40 with not much practice. The recoil is psychological and +p ammo for the 9, the recoil is just as bad.

@playerzero2236

6 жыл бұрын

@Oscillating Fan Yes, you can, especially for custom loads. But then again no point in arguing with someone who prefers feelz over actual data and testing. You slick sound like a liberal.

@Danmandingo

6 жыл бұрын

Oscillating Fan But that's the thing. You DO get both capacity and stopping power with the 40S&W. And seeing that the rounds can be loaded so powerful (staying within SAMMI spec), it is a round that can offer both facets.

40s&w is my favorite round very versatile

If you need 9 as a prepper. Buy a .40 and keep a 9mm conversion barrel and mag around. 10mm is more effective, potentially with the right ammo, but .40 gets the job done and there's a lot more of it in a scarce situtation. Out of a short barrel, especially a pistol like a ported shield I do recommend the 165gr, but a full size .40 handles the 180gr very well. Would love to see a video on .357 sig vs 10mm. I'm honestly a bit torn on which one I would prefer if I ever venture outside the .40 s&w. Used all sorts of different weapons but I've always come back to the .40. It's by far my favourite all purpose cartridge.

@MatteoSixSeventyFour

6 жыл бұрын

If you have a 40. The 357 sig is easy to get into with just a conversion barrel. And a bit of no-brainer option IMHO. However the load options for it are an Underwood 65gr solid copper bullet clipping along at 2100 fps from a 4", the obvious 125gr @1475 (4" also) and the 147gr XTP loaded @1250 fps 4" again (BB & Dt ammo). Since I already carry 40 as my preferred daily. The Sig is what I chose to move into as a secondary option. Everything stays the same from the existing gun. No new mags to get. Grip & trigger remain the same. Win win in my book.

@playerzero2236

6 жыл бұрын

@@MatteoSixSeventyFour Lol I've been mulling over getting a conversion barrel the last couple weeks. I think I will now. 65gr at 2100fps? That's crazy. That's approaching rifle velocity out of a handgun. Thanks for the tip

The Gen 5 Glocks in .40 make the caliber even more appealing to me. I finally found a Glock 23 MOS Gen 5 earlier this year & it quickly became my EDC. I also have a Glock in 10mm & I've been disappointed by most factory ammo. If they're going to push it 1100 FPS, I don't want it. I can easily get that with my smaller .40. I want my 10mm to be at 1275 minimum for plinking ammo & more than that for anything else.

Great video. I'm not a prepper, but I was strongly considering buying a 10mm as a woods gun before I got into reloading and started reading load data for the .40 S&W. I like versatility from every handgun I own. The .40 in a Glock 35 lets me go from a super tame 135 gr bullet @ 950 fps (Clays powder) to a potent 180 gr bullet @ 1200+. Then there's a great heavy bullet range with a 200 gr bullet starting at 850 which feels and recoils just like a standard .45 ACP to medium factory velocity 10mm level @ 1050 fps. Add to that mix factory defensive ammo with great performance and many inexpensive offerings. The 10mm started to look like not enough of a step-up in performance with the same bullet weights (adding only 220gr, which I don't see any .40 data for) and doing only 100-150 fps better with boutique ammo or handloads. Instead of my step-up being a 10mm, which is barely a difference from .40, it will be a .454 Casull revolver. That will give me a truly huge range, with everything from cowboy .45 Colt loads sending a 230 gr projectile at a gentle and pleasant 685 fps to tooth-rattling, eardrum-rupturing .454 rounds sending a 395 gr projectile at 1200 fps and everything .45 Colt & .454 Casull can do in between those extremes. I looked at the .460 S&W, but for me .454 is really as powerful as I want to go before I'll carry something shoulder-fired.

@nathanbigsby8731

3 жыл бұрын

If you aren't carrying at minimum, a.500 S&W, then you might as well call it a day.

I can confirm your results with regards to handloading the .40S&W. Max charge of Longshot topped with a 180 grain fmj yields me 1180 avg. fps out of a 4.4" barrel. Winchester Q4369 contract ammo yielded 1008 fps. Thought I had clocked some max Bluedot charges in .40 but haven't. I have in 357 Sig and it doesn't perform as well as Longshot. Less velocity, more blast and more flash. Longshot is where it is.

Yes I’ve been saying everything you’re saying!! They neutered it after Gen 1 Glock kabooms, then the loads stayed like that because the factories had no R&D for .40 due to loss of popularity. I was also pretty certain .40 can withstand 9mm +p and +p+ pressures since they have the same standard pressure. Just no factories do it, and I guess it takes a lot of experiment with bullet size and placement. I’ve seen hand loaders do 135’s at 820 fpe from 4.5” barrel, 155’s at 768, 165’s at like 680, and 180’s at like 580 or something like that. I also was curious about slower burning powder in a .40 carbine with a 16” or 20” barrel, and how powerful THAT could get if mixed hot lol. Like if you have a good carbine, 155 grain projectile, loaded to +p pressure with slower burning powder, what are we talking in energy? Possibly 5.56 levels? Like 1,300 fpe? Maybe even more?

Great video and thank you so much! Your videos makes so much sense. I like the 9 mm cartridge but love that damn 40! Please keep them videos coming.

I buy .40s&w from Underwood ...... 9mm is too lethargic for me ....

Look at Vihtavuori 3N38. Book data for 165 grain bullets is 1250 FPS!!! Book data for 200 grain is 1038 FPS. This is the current manual for 2023. This powder is one of the go to powders for 9mm major loads. 147 grain bullets at 1150!!!

I loaded hot 40 smith and Wesson for years then I finally bought a 10 mm Glock 20 and put on a 6 inch Lonewolf barrel and now I shoot my 165 grain bullets at 1400 ft./s and 180 hollow points at 1330 Game changer!

Good stuff Jason. You mirrored or touched on some of what I've said in the comments for you "What Would Smith & Wesson Need To Do To Truely Compete With Glock?", and a few other videos. Once I moved past my bias in '05 that 10mm was superior why bother with 40. I really began to see the utility and potential that the 40 has. Too bad mismanagement from the industry, KB's, the admonishing tactical kool-aid kids and 10mm nazi's gave it such a bad wrap. BTW I've seen some good numbers from 800-X and WSF. I also heard of 2400 doing well with 180gr, but who knows. I do plan to try some 800-X though, as its a pretty solid powder for the 147 XTP 357 Sig loads.

I wonder if 40sw is loaded down to 1000fps with a 180 for control and to reduce muzzle flash all with hitting that 12-18” penetration requirement.

I use Remington 165 GR. Golden Sabre Bonded on my Glock 27 (Gen 3) and it feels powerful..... I couldn't imagine something hotter and the Feds are cheap bastards they are looking for a gun that's cheap to shoot during training and cheap to replace !

I believe 9mm being on par 40 is a myth. These extra millimeters we see in the 40sw wound cross-sections fall within outer circle which boosts the cavity exponentially R². Algorithm for circle: πR² Algorithm for cylindrical space based on that circle: πR²L where L stands for length of the wound cavity. I also believe 9mm despite its knock-down inferiority is more suitable for deep concealment rigs.

good job Jason

Man looking at Hodgden load data for long shot its saying 1.125 OAL and a max of 8 gr longshot for a 180 gr xtp. I plugged that data into GRTOOLS and its showing me at nearly 48k pressure! I have 100 rounds loaded up at 1.125 OAL at 7.6 gr longshot with a magtech flat nose 180gr projectile and afraid to shoot them in my gen 3 glock 23. Anyone have any thoughts on this load or with GRTOOLS?

@roosterfish3248

3 жыл бұрын

I think you will be ok. I've shot a bunch of 165 gold dots with 8 grains on longshot in a glock 35. Velocity is a little over 1300 fps. I also load 180 cast with 7.3 grains of longshot for 1200 fps. I shot some of these cast bullets with 8 grains, and didn't have any problems, I just was able to get better accuracy after I backed it down. The 180 cast at 1200 fps is a good hog round. I've have shot these same rounds from a glock 27 also with mo issues.

Jason, can you give your thoughts on .40 vs .45, advantages and disadvantages?

@deltaforcereviews

5 жыл бұрын

MFPWM2010 advantagenis 40 puts same amount of energy in smaller diameter bullet therefore better penetration.

I think we should talk about 380 some, lots of people carry em for a variety of reasons, mine is my backup at work, how to Improve 380

The 40 S&W was the first cartridge designed for hollow point bullets. Because of this, the FMJ jacket bullets are truncated cone, instead of round nose bullets that would be loaded too long for 40 S&W. Truncated cone bullets normally load at hollow point bullet cartridge length. The early 40 S&W cases had higher capacity, but after Federal had some case failures and recalls, all American makers beefed up the thickness of their 40 S&W cases, reducing capacity. Note that Hodgdon has a higher charge of Longshot listed as maximum for a 180 grain bullet, while the newer design 165 grain bullet maximum load is lower. This may be due to when the loads were developed and what cases were used. Note that Hornady reduces the maximum 180 grain bullet load slightly. Still decent velocity though. Hodgdon says 1150 fps from a 4 inch barrel, while Hornady says 1100 fps from a 4 inch barrel. 180 grain, 40 caliber truncated cone FMJ bullet might get some decent penetration on a bear, if needed.

@artifacthunter1472

Жыл бұрын

The 40 Smith & Wesson is a shorter version of the original 10 mm you need to go back to school! The 10 mm was designed to use conical flat tipped bullets and has even less bullet sticking out than the 40!

40cal can match 10mm because factory has been loading reduced loads in 10mm due to some 10mm guns not holding up to full 10mm loads.

@playerzero2236

6 жыл бұрын

Paul harrel has a good video on this. 10mm has more potential but if you use the wrong ammo you might as well have a .40. Although I will argue .40 is a very reliable cartridge.

@MatteoSixSeventyFour

6 жыл бұрын

The same applies for the 40. The cartridge has been getting down loaded since its inception because most people will complain the gun is too snappy for them. So they reduced the powder charges till we see a 180gr doing 875 to 950fps. Instead of 1050 to 1150 as it was envisioned. When what should have been done was increase the slide weight and install a heavier recoil spring than whats used in their 9mm counterparts.

@MilitiauScom

6 жыл бұрын

@@MatteoSixSeventyFour snappy comes from 10mm and 40 squeezed into a concealable frame and slide like the infamous Glock29, which I carried while doing low profile bodyguard work.

@MatteoSixSeventyFour

6 жыл бұрын

Militia.uS.com While its true as you reduce the size & similarly the weight of the gun you increase recoil. But that's not where the snap comes from. The snap is primarily a factor or symptom, at least in terms of the 40 from sticking the cartridge in a gun that is little more than a 9mm with the breech overbored for the larger 40 case head and a different barrel, ie same OD but larger ID. Often the slide isn't any heavier and the recoil spring is the same as their 9mm counterpart. Which makes little sense. Yes, both 9 & 40 have the exact same pressure specs. But the 40 generates more thrust than the 9 because the pressure is working across a larger surface area. All of those things combined with a faster recoil impulse gives you the often uttered and dredded snap. As for the 10mm. Its main drawback is all too often no one springs the gun with a heavy enough spring. But that stems from the fact that the 10mm once had two different pressure specs. The lower 10mm FBI and the original Norma pressure specs. In the case of the 29. Well, a lighter subcompact polymer frame in 10mm is going to be a beast regardless. As the first sentence tell you. And there's only so heavy a spring you can stick in a subcompact for anything loaded to upper end 10mm specs. In other words, you're trying to fight physics. To be honest the 29 is like tits on a bull.

John Browning made the 9.8mm for a reason.

Longshot is filthy Alliant Power pistol same horsepower just a flash for myself I prefer a flash 250 rounds of 40 or 10mm weapon comes turns out cleaner that using Longshot period from trial and error

Ready to learn!

stock 10mm is watered down ...

@deltaforcereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Rich Ki. 500lbs is nothing to sneeze at . Yet 9mm guys love those stock 9mm @ 370lbs 😂🤣😂

@bigsean2473

5 жыл бұрын

@@deltaforcereviews really which stock 9mm is 370lbs?? more like 330lbs

Jason thoughts on the Ruger 1022 as a first rifle for both home defense and hunting?

@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think a .22 is adequate for home defense. Sure if you have nothing else it is better than nothing but if you are going to purchase your fist firearm, and you need it for this role, I would say this should not be choice.

@haywoodjablome4375

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Blaha Firearm Enthusiast are there any other rifles under say $300 that you recommend that meet those requirements?

9mm = better because it's cheaper ....

@bigsean2473

5 жыл бұрын

thats just the dumbest answer ive ever heard. so your going to bet you life on a few pennies vs more power for a few pennies more. most jhp ammo in 9mm and 40cal is just about the same price. most i see is within 4$ a box

recent .357Sig is watered down ...

10,is,for,big,game,all,day

hey if anyone here is from texas (including you jason) im looking to see if theres anyone here opposed to beto o'rourke. so far everyone is head over heels for him and its really scaring me because my gut is telling me to just leave the state, but im only a teen and im probably over reacting so i came over here to see if anyone can help me out and calm me down, so please if anyone else is here and not brainwashed, help me because i still need to see that theres hope for our state and that we wont fall to democrats and gun control which is far closer now because everyone is moving over here and its a serious massive problem. ive been thinking about georgia. it sounds like a nice state, so if anyone can help out and suggest a state and or confirm that would be nice as well. thanks really, thanks

@rtmuffrtmuff3952

6 жыл бұрын

Don't hit the panic button yet! I believe Ted will win! But Constitutionalists and Pro 2A voters cannot be lazy and must go out and vote for pro 2a candidate's. We cannot take anything for granted.

@rtmuffrtmuff3952

6 жыл бұрын

If you do plan to relocate, look up top 20 states that are Pro 2a.

@levlev.1028

5 жыл бұрын

@@rtmuffrtmuff3952 come to Utah. Mormons... (not great but better then libtards) and like 6 militias. My town of 1k people has prepper meetings at the town hall once a month, and half the city government attends.

@rtmuffrtmuff3952

5 жыл бұрын

@@levlev.1028 I've been thinking about Utah as a move if Texas turns into California. I'm going to see after the midterms! Thank you Sir for the invite!

40 and the 10mm have the same bullet but the 10mm has a bigger cartridge but they fire bought a 10mm bullet the bigger cartridge on the 10mm has never killed å person but the same bullet has

To be fair production 10mm isn't loaded that much hotter than standard .40 S&W that's why i want to get a 10mm handgun because them I can use whole spectrum of .40 caliber.

@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699

6 жыл бұрын

180 grains moving 1150 fps is a lot hotter than off the shelf .40. 15% more velocity is substantially hotter by any metric.

@bigsean2473

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699 fenix ammo has 10mm 180gr@1375fps thats a big step up from even handloaded 40cal

Merica

I get the point with the .40's, how about having the 10mm with good ammo, and shoot the .40 out of the 10mm for shtf senarios. I have two 10's and two .40's. I like them all!!

why not handload 10mm? 5:19

@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699

5 жыл бұрын

I do.

@roosterfish3248

3 жыл бұрын

A 40 will never be able to equal what you can get out of a 10mm, I don't think anyone would argue that. But, you can load a 40 with plenty power to hunt deer and hogs. The thing I like about a 40 is that it's in the same size pistol as a 9mm, and holds more rounds than a 45. I use low power loads for plinking, and the longshot loads for hunting.

Great video, who are the 58 assclowns down voting? "Smaller" FBI agents maybe? ;)