Theres something so comedic about Seth saying "shrine" about 15 times in the deck tech and then opening up the first game with "the deck is full of shrines"

I don't know what's more impressive; The performance of this deck or the fact that Seth pronounced Go-Shintai properly :)

@chelseys5192

2 жыл бұрын

On one had it's phonetic, on the other had, that's never stopped him before.

@stevenh4314

2 жыл бұрын

certainly the latter

@charliemallonee2792

2 жыл бұрын

*cough*, Shadowsphere, Circootius Route

@smore8566

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliemallonee2792 put some respeck on the name Sir Cooteous Route, the noblest of knights

@corwinmajere7715

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, I am confused, are you speaking in jest? I have not watched the entire video yet and when he says it at 12:09, that is definitely not the correct pronunciation. The large majority of the Magic KZreadrs unfortunately butcher a ton of these Kamigawa Neon Dynasty names. Don't blame them or anything, as the names are Japanese and written in Romaji to boot.

11:16 "That warms my shriney heart" 18:35 "Wine 'em, dine 'em, shrine 'em, shrine 'em"

@elesh3178

2 жыл бұрын

This comment made me realize how often seth just says the most batshit random stuff and every time it totally passes over me

It seems like the new cycle of shrines has taken the archetype from a jank pet list to a plausible midrange value pile.

@ryanmurphy9068

2 жыл бұрын

The archetype has officially graduated from “Holy shit I actually won” to “If I can survive, I’ll probably win.” So proud :,)

@aidanquiett668

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanmurphy9068 The gates route then

@zhaodongwang2675

2 жыл бұрын

In commander it’s dump shrines into the grave with life’s origin and then reanimate everything with replenish for a trillion shrines. It’s actually terrifying now if the other players can’t stop you.

@tipsandhelp324

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, in brawl at least it’s a nasty opponent. Hard to deal with for most decks.

Sometimes I’m shocked when a coco misses, but then I remember there’s always like a 10-20% chance of a miss and considering they ALWAYS have one if not many cocos, it’s only fair that they miss

@Djewell314

2 жыл бұрын

Coco is like a 2% miss rate

@inquisitorgrand

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same with Winota hits. Statistically it's more even on whiffing but even then you're just so used to it resolving and getting a body that it's just a shock. Course I've had moments where I have 4 Winota triggers on the stack and only one resolves with one option available, so sometimes math hurts.

TIL that the art in "Sanctum of All" isn't just a bunch of clouds. thank you introductory video.

Felt like Seth almost never wanted to get stone fangs when that drain would help stabilize and progress towards winning.

@psilentscream2

2 жыл бұрын

Seth: This deck always seems like it needs one more turn. Also Seth: let’s draw cards instead of getting one more turn worth of life.

I would love to see a standard shrine deck with mirror box!

1:11:40 "5 color kamagialmaneon destiny shrines" is quite a deck name

"And a win, which is a nice little bonus." Never change, Seth.

I'm afraid that if we kill our opponents creature they might scoop. Yes, it would be awful to win the game....

@HavocTheWendigo

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not about winning it’s about sending a message

@fdterritory

2 жыл бұрын

The winner of the game is the one who drew the most cards. It's a proven fact.

@vecvecvec

2 жыл бұрын

spike spotted

@andrewbrock3675

2 жыл бұрын

@@HavocTheWendigo sending the message that Seth doesn't value the opponents time, but literally whines when he gets roped. Lol.

@joe.5103

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbrock3675 Opponents decide when they want to concede. For all Seth knows, the opponent wants to see Seth’s deck go off or is just playing to make the content more epic. I’ve seen the latter a few times. The opponent also only get an advantage when Seth does this bc it gives them some crazy comeback outs. Lastly, Seth is making content for a living. It’s normal for him to want to make the sweetest content as possible and push his decks to the limit. The OP probably isn’t making content so it’s slightly different.

I'd love to see some sort of mirror box shrine shenanigans. Having multiple sanctum of alls to give even more extra procs seems hilarious.

1:11:35 The way seth said kamigawa neon dynasty killed me 🤣🤣

@cory5476

2 жыл бұрын

Kamigyamahna neon destiny

I been running Shrines Historic in Arena for a while and the additional cards from Kamigawa just cemented the deck as being amazing. Now we just need the new shrine commander added so we can do Historic Brawl the way it is meant to be.

@sjgb214

2 жыл бұрын

Go-Shintai of Life's Origin?

@Duskrequim

2 жыл бұрын

@@sjgb214 Yep... the fact they did not add the commander cards from the new sets is a bit enfuriating.

@triopsate3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Duskrequim Shrines with life's origin and shrines without is absolutely night and day difference. I've cast replenish with life's origin, sanctum of all and a few other shrines in the grave (got board wiped) in commander and boy those shrine tokens are ridiculous. Managed to immediately pop a someone with the first new red shrine trigger and drop another person down to 4 with the other trigger on the same turn I cast replenish.

@SuperSimputer

2 жыл бұрын

Yesterday was a good day.

@Duskrequim

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperSimputer Yes, and I have been enjoying it quite profusely. Now to force them to add Gond Gate and Basilisk Gate which they somehow left out recently and I will be even happier.

I think targeting the Mayhem devil made the opponent start saccing for maximum damage, making them realize they had lethal

1:07:19 That reaction to barely winning against Arclight was so wholesome, haha

Oh Seth, there is no weak Shrine. That white one has carried me through many a games.

@Lohoris

2 жыл бұрын

Oh well, the mill one… ok it's still a 0/4 flying blocker, good point.

@Lohoris

2 жыл бұрын

The tap one is also excellent against the Phyrexian Obliterator!

Themed decks always fascinate me. Ever since I've started playing MTG when Ice Age came out, I've noticed some cards that somehow share a name, type, similar ability despite the color - then you'd think of making a deck out of that trait that's shared by the cards. This channels brings both nostalgia (since I'm a player from the old age) and awe (seeing the cards today). I quit playing during the Tempest saga but still checked out the MTG lore from time to time, and whatever powerful cards that came out during an expansion and how the card is related to the whole story/lore. I've also seen cards with unfamiliar card mechanics that are a bit complicated for newbies or those who stopped playing a long time ago.

I think the Innistrad slow lands would have been better than the pathway, you dont have a 1 drop to play anyway if you have some in your opening

@smallsailingninja

2 жыл бұрын

There is the white sanctum shrine, which I can't remember the name of right now which is a single white pip

At 49:25, if they're gonna let you get to your turn you should have stacked the lifegain to go first. There's the off chance they would have let that trigger resolve since they responded to you targeting the Mayhem Devil. They still had lethal, but you could have given them more ways to mess it up. :D

Seth : "We don't activate mill shrine" Also seth : "You know what ..." xD

I feel like that was the first two minutes deck tech I've ever fully encountered. It was beautiful

That deck tech is exactly how I like my deck techs.

I think it maybe be some insanity, but this list could work with jeskai ascendancy, generating a ton of mana with weaver, and growing your man-shrines, specially cuz its protected by the sterling groves.

@jerryturgin6583

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunatly I don't think jeskai ascendancy is on arena

@baileynicholson251

2 жыл бұрын

Don't give them ideas

@baileynicholson251

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerryturgin6583 dotn give them ideas. .....

31:09, I think you could have come back there. Sanctum of all gives you access to a lot of options. New white shrine gives you blockers, stone fangs would have given you life. I think you could have done it.

@spicymato

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. The "discard land to damage any target" shrine would have worked, too. He had a hand full of lands, and all enemy creatures were 2 toughness or less.

I love that there are still surprises with every set. Amazing video!

The 1 drop white shrine is one of the best. I allows tempo play and as the shrines stack up it can tap down multiple threats.

I play a lot of shrines and not seeing the shroud icon on your Enchantments really tripped me up

I love enchantress decks and loved this episode, thanks for doing it!

Don't forget with Sterling Grove out you can't put counters on your shrines.

As soon as the first shrines we're revealed, I have been waiting for this episode

shrines triggering on endstep is worse with sanctum FYI. When sanctum searches and put it on the battlefield that shrine triggers immediately 4:01

@Ygo1ohcysP

2 жыл бұрын

The sanctums will trigger because they trigger on first main phase but the hondens will not since they trigger on the upkeep

Seth is probably better known as " Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive"

31:08 You could have survived with the white go-shintai. But then I realized... it's not in your deck! You missed a shrine!!!!!!

@rishiroy8500

2 жыл бұрын

It is.

@kevinwonnacott5150

2 жыл бұрын

@@rishiroy8500 it is in the intro, but look when he Sideboards or looks through his deck. Somehow, the deck he played doesn't match the one in the intro.

@bobzour

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yeah in the article he says he missed it due to an error.

@tlblitz42

2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure the red Sanctum would have also done the deed, thanks to the mana flood giving him plenty of discard fodder

@Gregness2000

2 жыл бұрын

He also could have gone into his deck to get Sanctum of Shattered Heights. He had plenty enough lands in hand, and it'd be 2 damage a piece so he could have wrathed the opponent's board the hard way.

I wonder if this deck wants more control/tempo cards, like more cheap removal. The only way you ever lost was by getting run over early before you could get enough shrines down. That's why the tap-down shrine and the NEO 0/4 flying blocker shrine seemed unexpectedly good here.

I feel like the shrines being creatures is generally great upside even with the downside of being easy to remove. 1. It gives what used to be a deck with basically no blockers or attackers creatures that synergize *perfectly* with the rest of the deck 2. Because they are still also enchantments, they're protected by Sterling Grove the same as your Enchantress shell pieces 3. Because they're so much easier to remove, their abilities are really pushed. As you found out here. Turns out, them being creatures means that they fill a gap in the shrine archetype. In retrospect it's not that surprising?

@Krikenemp18

2 жыл бұрын

Plus with Mirror Box (already a great addition to this deck), the creature shrines can get big fast if you have more than one copy of the same shrines in place - which you can do because of Mirror Box.

This looked amazingly fun!

Jodah The Unifier is a great additon to the shrine deck. Cascading shrines is absolutely dirty

Shrine on you crazy olive.

Opponent at 12, 256 life and 14 cards in hand, and not surprisingly wins. Seth: "Sooooooooooooooooooo close!!!

15:27 "And a win, which is a nice little bonus" 😅

we need mirror box shrines seth

@vecvecvec

2 жыл бұрын

oh my god we do

Seth's voice and enunciation just makes me happy :)

I've played a lot of historic where every now and then you'll see a shrines player. It's a deck that can do quite well if your opponent doesn't have enchantment removal, but is typically super weak if they do. Given that they were showing up often enough, I actually started running Devastating Mastery (destroy all nonland permanents, as cheap as 4 if you don't mind letting them bounce 2) in a lot of my Wx control decks just to get the auto-win.

I think you conceded too early at 58:45. Yes they are killing one shrine, but if you tap three creatures in response you should be able to survive this turn, then it's a matter of if you're able to do enough to survive the next turn.

@icemancad

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, and staying in it to see his come backs is why we like decks like this. This is also exactly why we as fans get upset when he concedes early. Play to your outs, dont give up!

@RaphaelBriand

2 жыл бұрын

Last game Vs sacrifice too. I would have stayed in it

@SublimeSublemon

2 жыл бұрын

Where are you getting the 3rd white mana required for this?

@SublimeSublemon

2 жыл бұрын

@@icemancad that wasn't an "early concession". He was dead. Flat out.

Shrine, shrine, everywhere a shrine…

@B0mm3Lkills

2 жыл бұрын

Hör auf zu Shrine!

I see you have learned the power of the Sanctum of Tranquil Light. Good. Good.

Seth's t-shirt game is always on point.

I made a weird legacy shrine deck where I just looted a bunch then the wincon was mizzix mastery target replenish or just casting replenish bringing back all my shrines. It was a weird idea and was pretty funky but it wasn’t super bad

I swear, Seth's openings are like Casey Casum covering a fatal car crash while running nails over a chalkboard.

I think what may make this deck come together is mox amber + a couple more creature shrines since they are legendary. The mox might push it one turn faster.

After a few tries, I can confidently say that Jukai Naturalist is an excellent addition to this deck :D

When you play hanky decks and are having a blast is when the videos are the best.

I really want to try this deck but with Mirror Box to bypass all the legendary limits and a Jegantha companion to help with the 5-color ramp. Just imagine having 4 copies of Sanctum of All on the board - which can tutor each other. I love legend rule jank like Helm of the Host so Mirror Box is a card made for me.

“Someday I’ll make a compilation of CoCo whiffs.” You mean your own?🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, can’t wait for that.

Around 1:11:35 is one of the best Seth mispronunciations in a hot minute.

i wonder if there's enough good shrines to make a competitive version that's not playing literally all of them. enough shrines so the effects are good. but still allowing for other good cards to exist as well

Prior to Neo I had been playing shrines in historic with Hallowed Haubting

the white honden absolutely carried in Game 3 of Match 3 (vs the Rakdos Oni-Cult deck). The incidental lifegain helped keep you alive for sooooo long vs the chip damage they were trying to kill you with.

I love anything enchantress based. This deck was sweet.

Another awesome build from Syth, probably better known as Saffronolive

Excellent introduction.

this is what I been wanting!!!!!!

My buddy has a 5-color shrine EDH deck. It's obscenely powerful unless he doesn't get the lands he needs.

I think a copy or two of mirror box would've been funny, just so sanctum of all can grab another copy of itself

I love seeing shrines do well, cuz I'm a very casual player who really enjoys playing the janky mythos of snapdax.

19:44 Why not use the Grove to tutor for a mana producing Shrine?

I've actually adapted this to be a modern deck, so far my records have been 3-1, and 2-2, going for the 3rd time tonight.

Mirror Box in this deck seems fun.

What would you substitue for the Shrine Commander Go-Shintai of Life's Origin for a casual kitchen tabel deck? and how many would you include?

@Krikenemp18

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I'd go with Jegantha, if you can ramp to it quickly you don't need to worry about wubrg lands to cast Sanctum of All.

Mirror Box shrines could also be fun.

“Im afraid if im gonna kill trelasara, my opponent is going to scoop”. Strategic gaming at its finest!

I had to blink a couple times to make sure I was seeing right when your sanctum weavers tapped for 10+ mana a piece. I guess I gotta start believing in the shrines more

If you were to substitute one card for the commander Go-Shintai, which one would be?

I enjoy playing a shrine deck I have a historic one and a historic brawler but I don’t use Hoden of the seeing winds Because if you don’t pay attention you can mill yourself out

Where is that beginning scene from, with the singing and camera panning over the town?

The good thing this is, its kinda a toolbox deck with sanctum of all now, there are so much options you can get out of most situations.

Really want Seth to play the Shrine Commander deck in Clash this week...

my shrine deck runs hall of mirrors i like to get like 3 or 4 sancttums out by turn 5 or 6, it gets ridiculous quickly

26:57 I feel this so hard lol

I'm wondering how good it would be to play just the best shrines and mirror box

Most Magic players: Hell yea, my deck's doing great. Seth: My opponents keep scooping :(

I think the manabase can be improved, what about more of the slowlands instead of pathways?

@CSDragon

2 жыл бұрын

having GW untapped on 2 is critical to the deck.

I wish I could run weird decks like this x-x Every deck is so expensive

I'd get massacre as well and maybe shove in the curse which makes opponents discard but I love my board wipes. Can't live without 'em. Maybe include the 6-mana Green/Black card which destroys a land, a creature, a planeswalker and enhancement, which name I can never remember.

@techoutsider5631

Жыл бұрын

Casualties of War

Should try this In modern my wife would love to play it shes a fan of the shrine archetype

Love how we now get to here random bear noises in the background.

Anyone notice at 49:00 the opponent missed lethal? Swing with everything (7) sac the goat (2) sac the cat (2) sac the food to revive the cat (2) sac the cat again (2) sac one of the mayhem devils (1) 7+2+2+2+2+1=16, perfect lethal. They messed it up by killing the sanctum weaver, but he gged anyways.

Is a couple copies of weaver of harmony worth trying in here?

New computer or something? This seems a lot smoother than usual.

There's 18 shrines. 6 Go-Shintai, 6 Sanctum, 5 Honden and 1 Shrine token.

@RasmusVJS

2 жыл бұрын

But the commander, which is the one that makes the tokens, isn't in historic. So 16.

I feel like putting in mirror box could really help main deck. At least 2-3 of.

@NotsaeEgavas

2 жыл бұрын

Love the work as always. Just an idea 🙂

I have a Shrine/Plainswalker deck with Vorinclex/Prismatic Bridge and it gets fucking nutty, you should try putting one of those together sometime d:

Mhmm! A video opening up with some Gregorian Chant! Yes Please!!! Like already sent!

“I didn’t think it through, I was focused on drawing as many cards as possible” is the most SaffronOlive thing I’ve ever heard

58:09 please, Seth! Stop! Early! Scooping!!!!!

@ninjadave3281

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't an early scoop. He had 2 white mana available, so could only tap 2 things. The pillar was putting him to six life, so no matter what two creatures he tapped, he was dead unless opponent's internet/computer/arena client crashed or they some how skip though their attacks.

@xblful

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninjadave3281 I thought he had 3 white mana. I find those borderless pathways confusing. Absolutely beautiful, but confusing.

Seth asking if a kaheera deck was 5c niv was great

Rise and Shrine, Mr. Olive… Rise and Shrine…

The opponent in match 2 must think you're cheating: the one time you milled, you hit Omnath.

Has to be the Greatest intro in the whole series 😂😂😂

@KomoliRihyoh

2 жыл бұрын

I'm racking my brain trying to figure out what it's from, though