I can imagine Carl bringing up all these details to a Nissan salesperson 🤪

@OldSkoolUncleChris

8 ай бұрын

If I see Carl or Sandy I click simple .

@Stone815

8 ай бұрын

I imagine all the Munro guys would spend hours critiquing stitching and mold tooling until they get 30% of the vehicle purchase.

@markplott4820

8 ай бұрын

CARL would be thrown out on his A$$.

@scott8919

8 ай бұрын

"You're still not getting a discount, sir."

@seamack3

8 ай бұрын

@@scott8919 Don't you realize your $60,000 ride is rolling on Dunlops? LOL

Thanks Carl for your excellent commentary as usual.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you Carl. I always learn something from each Munro video.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear that!

THIS! Expert analysis giving his opinion of the intricacies is amazing

The videos with Carl have a) taught me tons about material choices and b) for forever changed the way I look at car designs. Excellent stuff!

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

As always, Carl bringing in the heat to show what customers are buying into when it comes to interior. I totally echo his arguments or points. I like the styling, but I just can't justify the price point.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Carl always brings the Heat. 🔥

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

8 ай бұрын

@@MunroLiveYou have to make him lean - this will reduce the problems with heat dissipation, and food consumption. For sure, he will save way more than the cost of trunk panels. In a month.

Decent & certainly the best offering that Nissan has ... but not for that price.

Someone who works for nissan here; good video! Detail oriented, I drive an Ariya myself and I like it; and I can acknowledge someone of its shortcomings but overall I like it. Just a little FYI, there is one trim level that does not have the powered at center Console, and it looks like you are looking at one of the Premiere/Empower which I believe is 56K I don’t know of a trim level that has a 59K MSRP Overall I like the video even if it’s critical.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@SmartGreenHelp

3 ай бұрын

The platinum had an MSRP of 60+k before this latest price drop just announced of about 6k for 2024 models. I just leased a 2023 Ariya Evolve+ e4orce which has an MSRP of 57k but after incentives it came out to 38k, only 2k more than we leased our 2021 CRV Touring FWD for back in 2021. I absolutely love the Ariya and never want to drive an ICE car again. This is our 1st EV so maybe it's the newness of it but at that price point I'm thrilled. My payment is also $34 less per month. The money factor on the 2023 model leases is a quarter of what it is for 2024 models and they've dropped the "lease cash" from $7500 (federal incentive given at point of sale) to $3300. At least here in Vermont, these are the numbers. We also qualified for the full 5k state incentive and Green Mountain Power gave us $2200, a free level 2 charger and discounted EV charging rate off peak. The dealer gave us 4k off as well. We couldn't afford not to buy an EV.

Excellent presentation as always Carl. Love the way you analyze every part of the interior, critique the design, the material, durability and benefit to the client. Thank you Carl

Carl just drops knowledge 🐐 🐐 🐐

I have an Ariya. First, here in the EU the base Ariya costs in my area about 39k€ before incentives, so pretty good price. I got a fully loaded one except AWD for 46k€ before incentives at launch. Some things to note on the video, the price of that one piece curved glass for the two screens is not cheap to manufacture, all lights on the interior are LED, touch controlled and dimmable, the usefulness of the center console is questionable but it has been useful to me to change from the drivers position to the other seat when I park against a side wall or column, it's the easiest vehicle on which I can do that, also it's useful when I recline the seat for taking a nap and using it all the way back as an arm rest that way. The cupholders work good enough in practice, there's no frunk because all the HVAC system that usually is beneath the dash is under the hood to isolate better from the cabin, to give more ample space on the front floor and to use it on a crash as an additional crumple box before touching the firewall. The tables on the trunk in fact has a lot more of positions and usability than you mention and has been copied by other brands a lot here since the Qashqai launched on EU with those since 2007. The second glovebox is motorized on that trim and has a sliding table too. There's also a lot o money that goes in other elements that are not disclosed here like exterior elements, platform elements, body construction, etc. but that are disclosed by Nissan in various technical reports and whitepapers.

This will probably be my next car. Why? Because right now I have a Tesla from 2020, a Ford Mach E from 2022 and a Leaf from 2015. Of the three the Leaf is the only parked outside. It’s paint job is holding up better than the other two and while both the ford and the Tesla has had multiple errors and spent lots of time at the dealers the Leaf hasn’t needed anything else than normal service since I got it. And I spent 1/4 as much money on the leaf than the other two - and I still get treated better at the Nissan dealer than Ford or Tesla.

Thanks Carl. I do like that blue color on this EV. At the price Nissan is listing these for and the markup the dealers are putting on them this is not a great buy when you compare it to the Model Y. We looked at one at our dealership and they wanted $70k which put it $18k above a MY Performance. I imagine when this is two to three years old and the price is around $30K this would be a better option, but then the tech will be that many more years behind. Nissan should have introduced this under their Infiniti luxury brand as a replacement for the QX/FX Suv's.

@gisobo

8 ай бұрын

That still wouldn't justify the price. Most EVs are just waaay overpriced.

I would like to see the show: Carl goes Car buying - a car salesman nightmare 😂

Another great video from Carl.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

10:32 The "Start" ring is a feature, not a bug! ;) Wonderful insight from Carl as usual, thank!

Classic Carl :) Love the review

A great learning experience . Thanks

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Carl is a great teacher!

Ordered one in the UK. It's the advance trim model. 63kwh battery FWD version. Don't have electric centre console but agree on the higher trims is feels more of a gimmick. The dash and screens including all doors are included in the base model. Alternatively the interior space is impressive and you missed two important things. One is the extra glove box in the dash and the heater /AC systems are under the front hood making full use of the open dash flooring to include no noise from the blowers. The money is mostly in the tech, battery and drivetrain and being built in Japan only so where you are no federal tax benefits go against the price of all models.

@seamack3

8 ай бұрын

Built only in Japan but so puzzling why the Ariya is so expensive? Yen is crashing and at lowest level in 10 years!

Great work Carl. What an eye opener into what Nissan gives (doesn't give customers) in a $59K BEV's interior.

Function over form(style) any day.Great and very informative video on things often overlooked. Thanks.

🙋‍♂️THANKS CARL,AND THE WHOLE MUNRO TEAM 🤗 FOR YOUR REVIEW OF THIS CAR 👍💚💚💚

Great review. Thanks Carl. On the money again with details from an expert.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

This is one of the best looking EVs. Should be around $40,000. As an owner of an ice vehicle and a cheap hybrid vehicle, I just don't see paying more for an EV than what I'd pay for an ice vehicle. Why are EVs costing more ? They are so less complicated than an ice vehicle. I keep hearing that batteries are expensive...Well, that's not my problem. I'll continue to wait till the EVs come down to a reasonable price.

@nguyep4

8 ай бұрын

High cost is due to early development cost. Over time, an EV would be so much cheaper. It will be like 55" 4k tv for $250 rather than $1000

Exterior styling and the IP strike me as Tesla-like in their approach to minimalism. Approaching only. Not completely there. Putting stuff on the exterior has always struck me as useless. Keep it smooth and aerodynamic with minimal protuberances and parts. That gets into the realm of design art though, and some people like lots of stuff - hence Cadillac. That powered console is a full on brain melt. Great details review as always.

Well, crossing out Ariya off my list.

Alway solid information from Carl!

Carl is the best!

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

He’s simply the best. Better than all the rest.

Great video

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Love your insights

The moving console and sun roof are gratuitous features the buyer will use once or twice and then ignore. That is extra expense and just more items which may fail. I had a 2011 LEAF and one good thing I can say about it is that it had tons of headroom for a tall person such as me. The Ariya looks horribly cramped for headroom. Speaking of stuff which can fail,my experience with the LEAF was pretty bad. I do my own wrenching and source parts at discount when I can. Even at that, I had to replace the driver window switch module, couldn’t lower the window, $120. Replaced coolant pump, one of three, $390. Replaced electric boost master cylinder, no brake force at key-on, $950. Those last two repairs, the dealer quote was $2,500 each. All that happened when the car was under five years old. Nissan, never again, for me. Those are all things which should last well more than five years. I went back and forth with Nissan’s corporate representative at their HQ in Tennessee for several months about the master cylinder because it happened weeks past the end of Nissan’s own three year warranty extension. I was basically told to go pound salt, and that was after I had to pay $100 to a dealer to read the codes. Like I said, never again.

@ClockworksOfGL

8 ай бұрын

Nissan under Carlos Ghosn was a company that didn’t care what they sold. Junk vehicles for people with junk credit.

What Carl didn't point out when he was sitting in the rear seats, was the fact that the center console slides back blocking the center rear passenger space. He is great at his job.

Carl is great! Can’t wait for his Cybertruck review

This was very helpful at $92,000 AUD plus on road cost I have decided to removed it from my consider buy list.

Thank you for your feedback the highlander😊

Excellent. Thanks

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

ur my favorite engineer at munro

Jurno: what a great movable central console! Munro: what a waste of space and money 😅 Also, the hight of central armrest is different to the armrest in the door. And this is a vehicle that took like a decade to design 😂

No HD Radio (Digital AM & FM) is a Showstopper for me!

I was very interested in the Nissan Arya because I am a fan of the Leaf, and was thinking this was going to be a next generation Leaf. It’s not. It’s a different car. More crossover SUV than car. Then I saw the price. The first price I saw was in the $50’s. My enthusiasm dimmed. I am expecting more than I am currently seeing. I am seeing more Versa/Sentra than Maxima/Altima. I don’t yet see the value I get with this car over what I would be getting with a Murano, Pathfinder or Rouge.

$59K?!?! What trim was this. I bought a Premier trim in February and the MSRP on that trim was 56. Then I bought a Platinum+ in June & the MSRP on that one was 63 (adjusted from 59). As far as I was aware there were no trims between those two models.

I have an Ariya. A few things to mention. Firstly I completely agree about the gimmicky centre console. That was a bad move. In the standard version it doesn't move but the layout is exactly the same. So even though you don't have the gimmick you also don't get any of the storage you could have. They have the "secret" compartment in the centre of the dash. I think they should have gone with a static and practical console and moved the wireless charging to the "secret" compartment. Also agree about the lack of a frunk. There are good reasons though and it's not really a problem. You missed part of the function of the trunk split panels. You can slot the first panel vertically against the other. So compartmentalise the trunk space. This is actually really useful and I use it all the time. When you look at the base model you are getting decent value. I don't see the value in the higher spec models unless you really want AWD. You never touch any of the cheaper interior materials so the overall feel is quality. It certainly feels on a par with some pretty high spec german cars. All in all I love mine. It's got it's downsides but everything else more than makes up for them imo.

I don’t recall if it was said, but what trim is this model? It seems to be missing a lot of the interior features of the Platinum trim, which includes Napa leather, head-up display, vented seats, noise cancelling interior sound system and subwoofer in the rear storage.

I find it frustrating that Nissan can do so well with some of the styling and then strike out on things like packaging for a frunk and deep tub in the trunk. Those are things that we always leverage on our Y and it's much easier to get over the minimalistic interior when it can hold so much stuff. Also, the range and performance don't seem up to par.

Now try the infotainment and use the button on the map to find directions for charging. Let me know where that brings you 😅

Didn't talk about the battery and is it an AWD, they like to upcharge for that feature as well. Another thing they like to upcharge is the safety features as well.

@MunroLive

8 ай бұрын

The one we were sent is FWD, but there are AWD options available as well.

I started driving in the 60’s. You ordered your car. Everything was an option even air conditioning, power brakes and steering. I never ordered power windows or power seats. Rarely adjust seats and rarely open my windows. Nowadays those items are expected.

@Starship007

8 ай бұрын

Agree about no power console

Great info. No way they can compete with MY and it's astounding how far behind they are.

@gisobo

8 ай бұрын

It's mostly a nice car. Just too expensive.

You could buy two Bolt EVs for that kind of $$$. Or a Model Y that is also faster, cheaper, and has more range. I don't know where Nissan sees the value here 🤷‍♂

there are so many deferent color swatches in this car! looks like 4 color swatches just in the synthetic wood, I like the fake wood though! it's a 5 out of 10;)....I still can't believe all the color swatches remaining! the pst/ primary, secondary. tertiary rules have been lost... & the answers in the wind! Ooops!....sorry just entertaining U'r comments section!! U crush it Carl !!

Not when a model y is almost half the price

The rear load floor piece looks like it could be slotted in vertically to work as a cargo seperator. Hard to tell from the footage, though

@jamesfynnhere6983

8 ай бұрын

Also saw a strap attached to it, maybe stopping its independent removal.

Hi. I do not really understand the constant reference to 60kUSD when the starting price of the Ariya is at 43kUSD. Sure in a simpler trim but with more or less the same interior. It is quite evident that the gap pays for the 91kWh battery.

Will you also do the IONIQ 5?

@iordanrata

8 ай бұрын

they have teardowns on ioniq5

@b00nish

8 ай бұрын

@@iordanrata I know, but afaik not much about the interior so far. Or did I miss a video?

Did you find the wireless charger managed less than 2 minutes before stopping?

Could you imagine being stuck in an Uber with this guy?

should "YOU" pay? “SHOULD" you pay? I shouldn't.... 😊

I feel like a lot of the similar things could be said for teslas, but their battery, motors, software, more than make it up for their price

@Plisken65

6 ай бұрын

Munro, et al seem to be paid by Tesla to negate competition.

well, maybe a long range Model Y price (around $48K before incentives), but not $60K...

@markplott4820

8 ай бұрын

Model Y is even LESS Today.

Ariya is not made to be bought. It is made to be leased. The lease deals are amazing.

The capacitive buttons on the center console are a crime. I sat inside of this car at the NY autoshow and I hated everything about it. If this is the future I dont want to be a part of it.

@markplott4820

8 ай бұрын

the BEST part , is NO part in the FIRST place. - ELON .

@mbox314

8 ай бұрын

​@markplott4820 That expression should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I design stuff for a living and every part I add is days of paperwork, and headaches but more parts are often a good thing. A car company might save a few minutes putting a single ipod-esq scroll wheel in place of a cluster of buttons but a driver will spend 10,000 hours driving that car and operate those buttons thousands of times, saving parts while creating a frustrating, slow and dangerous interface is a major net negative. Of all of the cars I have owned buttons have never failed, transmissions and head gaskets failed but never buttons, they figured out how to design a good reliable button and knob so let me have that over some gimicky capacitive bullshit.

@harriettanthony7352

7 ай бұрын

In this I agree. Now be pleasantly surprized and go sit in a 2024 Niro BEV at circa 15K$ less- and you get MORE in the Kia

Model Y is still a better value proposition. Maybe someone will come close at some point.

Wtf were they thinking with that price?!!

I wouldn't pay $0 for that japcrap. And by the way, there is no film involved in recording this video. That stuff with the holes down the side of it was not used to record this.

Man, Chinese EVs have great futuristic interiors and the car is nearly half the price. Knocking it out of the park

@Plisken65

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, but it breaks after a year of use.😂

i love the center console of the EV6 ( if you have to have an open space, do it like that, and hate the Audi Q4 E-tron solution, my fav is from Mercedes, if you look at the new Smart #3 its basically a Mercedes, i love how the middle console separates the two seats continuously.

@markplott4820

8 ай бұрын

EV6 is Literally built on the eGiMP platform , its another CRAPPY car.

@alfredotto7525

8 ай бұрын

Looks like a piece of Junk. Probably should be 20 thou instead of 60.

@Lifecoach7Ra

8 ай бұрын

Own my EV6 AWD since May 2022 with all in and it’s actually one of the best offers at its price. Critics come from trolls not even knowing that the outstanding 800 volts platform is called E-GMP. Think there is reporting from hearsay only but as a business consultant I could try most cars on offer. So actually there is no BMW, Audi, Mercedes (or too expensive Nissan) that is comparable in all aspects to the three Koreans Genesis GV60, Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 AWD. I had not one single issue with my car what in 54 years of driving mostly German premium and only once forever shitty V8 Pontiac that I was giving back after one year because it was not drivable on European roads. The EV6 was made up by former boss of BMW M-Sports Albert Biermann and design is from Karim Habib. Finition is near perfect and battery performs better than expected. Range is far better than expected too and I live in Swiss alps where we also have hard winter. At my distributorship they only changed wheels two times and updated software for better charge planning, now at Tesla level. In a fast trip to Italy I lately made nearly 600 km with only one charge as recuperation is close to perfect. Always with A/C on at 21°C. So only a Tesla Model Y is an adequate competition to the Kia! Last summer it also performed well on Anneau du Rhin race track to test tires against more powerful Alfa-Romeo Stelvio Quadrofoglio with 510 Ferrari-PS against my ‚only‘ 333 PS but higher torque of 608 Nm Kia. They just reinvented themselves in a new class of cars. They know also how near China is with beautiful and performant products but from Europe and the states at present there is only #1 to safe the industry.😂🤔🤓

Tesla model 3 rear wheel drive here x 1 year. Good mileage. No headaches. Good service. I still dont have enough storage. I would not like to buy a car with less. I would like a small notch at the front, out if the centre console, for my foot. The car does so much driving on it's own but my foot gets tired propped up ready for gas or break if needed.

Would definitely not pay 60k for that. I would buy a model y or 3 and keep the rest of the money in my bank account

A frunk is overrated, in my opinion. I get companies can do it and it's a competitive advantage, but as an owner of a car I've never had a situation where I wished I could cram junk under the hood.

never😅

A motor controlled console has no value to me. Give me storage instead. Under armrest looks like a wireless phone charger. At $59K, I want long range in the 300’s.

Wow, makes me wonder where the additional expense is going to, my 2023 Ionic 5 Limited, had the movable console but manual and worked just fine, did not have ducts as they were mounted on the centre pillars, my seat stitching was better, no Nissan has lost their ability to clearly delivery quality and great engineering and Hyundai has gained it! Sorry Nissan you are missing what you once had, sorry for your loss!

After 10 years and oems Are still unable to offer a frunk to customers like tesla did. Unbelievable

Starts at $43,000 but like most press cars, it's loaded.

@jamesvandamme7786

8 ай бұрын

With what, that justifies $59K?

@seamack3

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesvandamme7786 The 4 Dunlops of course!

@jamesvandamme7786

8 ай бұрын

@@seamack3 Nitrogen filled?

CARL - you left out the USELESS Powered Drawer in the Center IP . in Front of the Center arm Rest Power Console. that too would cost Nissan a lot to Engineer w/ Motors and Actuators. it also has 2 Pivot points , to bring it out of Stowed position , into a Useful position. very EXPENSIVE in my opinion. DELETE . also , worth Mentioning the Glove Box is very Small and USELESS.

@jamesvandamme7786

8 ай бұрын

Just the right size for a pair of driving gloves.

The drive train is also not that impressive in 2023

I hate hard plastics. GM loves hard plastics also. So rental car interior

Why would anyone even consider this car??

60k for this car, or really almost any car, is beyond absurd

This is a 35-40k vehicle. It’s incredibly overpriced and there no reason to buy this over Model Y.

i didnt care for nissan before this video, and my opinion has not changed, lol

I'd take the Polestar 2 or Tesla Model Y over this, and save money. I can't see Nissan selling many of these at $60k.

@airheart1

8 ай бұрын

Lol.. you don’t have to guess at it.. it’s been on sale for about a year and they barely sell any. Model Y kills this thing on just about every metric.. a few people with the bucks to blow seem to either just really like Nissan.. or really hate Tesla.. or find the aesthetic differences nice enough to spend the extra money to get a less capable EV.

@TheTriumfAnt

8 ай бұрын

@@airheart1 Yikes. I didn't realize it was selling so poorly.

If you don't like Tesla, okay, but this EV is the answer to nothing.

Who the F in their right mind would buy this car ⁉🤣 Purchasing a non-tesla EV is a FOOLS ERRAND 😆

I just realized the Lexus RX hybrid is cheaper than this. Nissan needs to drop the price by $10K IMO to stay competitive.

Who is the blonde?

looks like an ice design pushed to ev. . .

If i had 60k i would retire 😅

This car costs twice as cheap in China.

Reeks of cheap. Nissan no longer can build a decent car. The seat stitching is horrendous, should not see that at all.

Another car with barbican windows at the rear, with knee-damaging ventilation panel for middle seat. No way.

All legacy should of started with making ebikes. The reality it's either Telsa or Ebikes to get the most bang for you buck.

@markplott4820

8 ай бұрын

e-Bikes are UNREGULATED and more Dangerous than manual Bicycles. People need rider SAFETY courses and DMV License & Registration.

@KentBuchla

8 ай бұрын

Useless comment

Today cars for last 10 years waaaay overpriced!!!!

$59K is absurd for a Nissan, cheap parts, what a racket, that's Audi territory, with real build quality...this is absurd prices, like all EV's especially Tesla with horrible low quality build, on their $140,000 piece of garbage

An other boring 4-door sedan in an endless line of deadly boring 4-door sedans. Did every designer fall victem to some virus and are braindead? Make a silouette of the last 50 EV models. 99% are 4-door saloons or 4-door SUV's, and you woulndt be able to tell one from the other. What is wrong with having nice cars, fun cars, beautifull cars, unique cars, different cars, recognisable cars. Look at the cars from the past century. So many nice 2-door cabrios, speedsters, coupe's and other brilliant designed cars. Even the small cheap ones, like the old VW 1300, the Citroen 2CV or Traction Avant, the more expansive ones, the Mustangs and Cobra's, Jaguar E-type or Mercedes 300sl. Why all build the same boring 4-door saloon . .. . . . is it because the buyers are totally boring?

CARL - the ARYIA is not Advanced TECH , its LACKING a FRUNK and has lots of WASTED space. its an INEFFICIENT Design at best. NISSAN would have been Better off, just making the LEAF Better.

I have Family who has the Nissan ARYIA , I was NOT impressed. in ONE word , the ARYIA is BLOATWARE. its too HEAVY , too SLOW , its an INEFFICIENT BEV. with Short RANGE. its also made with OUTDATED tech .

@KentBuchla

8 ай бұрын

Worst EV that I drove when testing EVS. Boring, cheap looking interior, and bloated.

The start button is so stupid. Hop in a Tesla and just press on the brake, then everything wakes up.

Absolutely not worth half the price. The fact you as video host are talking about how shiny the plastic is shows you're inadequate for this channel and especially viewers.