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A friend of mine who RV’s part time mentioned it to me that you need a CDL. Like you I asked numerous people and all were of the opinion that no you don’t. I went to my local licensing office and they said no you don’t as well. I do have a CDL because that’s what I do for a living. Thankyou for delving into this important topic! It’s sad to think even Government agencies aren’t aware. 😔

...an added note here. My wife and I currently reside in Texas. We are in the process of buying a 45' Prevost RV. Without a toad, it will require a class B non cdl license. With a Toad and or trailer, it will require a class A non-cdl license. Each of these has a weight limit of 26001 pds. Now to the problem. How to get one? The easiest thing to do, is check out your local truck driving schools. For $800 +/- You can go to a class and set, learn, for a class A, class B, or class C...CDL. Keep in mind this tiers upward. As such, a class A (bottom of the tier), will allow you to (because it is over and above both non-class a & b), and it will allow you to drive legally in any state that requires a non cdl license. As long as you are legal in your home state. Our Prevost will weight in at around 60k. As such it only makes sense for me to go this route. I set and learn, they set up the test (written and road), i pass, i get the license. Most importantly, I am legal in the eyes of any insurance firm, because i have met my state's legal requirement to drive said vehicle. Lastly. If, you can afford an expensive rv, you can spend a few days in class and learn just how to handle it legally. ScottishxPride, Tx.

Todd you have come a long way from when you started this journey. Great research, great info, great service to this community! Stay safe!

Toddman, I had the same issues in Texas. They require the same, Class A non-cdl for over 26,001 pounds. Dealership told me I didn't need one. DMV was confused about the requirements. But so glad I did it too, written test and driving test. Piece of cake! And legal!!!!

Great information. You would not believe the number of folks out here pulling these big rigs with single rear wheel 2500’s .. and they insist our 3500 duallys are unnecessary.

It's so unfortunate that the rv dealerships don't tell you these things, and most of their employees have no clue about it. Glad you are now safely towing without breaking the law.

@badgerpa9

Жыл бұрын

The DMV people did not know, the RV sales would ask them. Kansas use to have an RV exception but the law was changed.

Great video Todd. This video needs to be out here! I have a CDL W/medical certificate (truck driver for 45 years, retired now) and I’ve tried to explain this to friends and other campers about needing a non commercial class A license to legally tow their 40+ foot 5th wheels. They all give me that deer in the headlights look! I have a Ram 3500 and pull a Cyclone 3950 (41 feet long) toyhauler and I’m covered with my license for my State of California. Again Todd, you da man for going the extra miles to find out this information and to get it out on your KZread channel. I am sharing this video with all my fellow RV’ers that need to see this video. You definitely Switched It Up this time you’re an asset to the community. Bravo Zulu! ♥️

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really asked in the beginning and couldn’t seem to get a straight answer- but I just feel better now that we really know what we need to have and it’s done.

@rlcarver

Жыл бұрын

Yup, our lovely state is ticketing now in Imperial County.

@miketomas8564

Жыл бұрын

Greg- As a CDL operator of a Class-B work truck (Air Brake, Medical, HOS, ect), 26,000lbs (Wait for it!) Actual 28,000lbs and REGISTERED as 30,000 Thus I was required to get a CDL. Now I own my own 40 foot Class A at 36,000 lbs which is not only heavier than anything I've driven, it's the longest vehicle I've driven. Like you, I've taken the tests and actually whole heartedly believe that a higher "class" of license for heavier vehicles are issued with Studying and Tests is actually important for all of us. For example; I know somebody that's been driving a Diesel Pusher for almost three years, and just NOW is asking what Air over Hydraulic is! That Tells me a lot of things. He doesn't understand Air Brakes- how they operate, do Safety Checks or even know where the Hydraulic fluid reservoir is. He doesn't even know what's going to happen when he looses Air pressure!. So, this education, testing and certification is quite important for the owner to have been made aware of ahead of time. But My focus here Greg is how some States are inclusive of Recreational Vehicles into the Licensing of Commercial Vehicles. To Me; this is GD Stoopid as a Recreational Vehicle is NOT a Commercial Vehicle. An RV does not meet the federal definition of a Commercial Truck. It's like these states have laws, that they don't even understand the definition of their own laws. This is the most aggravating part of all this and is likely the cause of all the arguments you and I have had with other people about Needing "CDL's" for RVs. All because of a few stOoPiD states that treat Weight as the defining criterium of Commercialism.. I could go on.. But I digress. (Shakes my head like my instructor did)...

@greghall9006

Жыл бұрын

@@miketomas8564 I wholeheartedly agree with you. I’ve never understood why I’m required to have a special license in my State (California) to legally pull my 41 foot 5th Wheel trailer, yet some old geezer, half blind, and can barley walk can drive a Class A diesel pusher with air brakes right off the RV lot not knowing anything about the air brake system or anything about operating a large vehicle. Yes folks, these people are out there trying to drive an RV they know nothing about. All States should require every RV owner that drives or tows above a certain weight or length to complete a safety course. I had to prove I could drive that big rig, and I had to prove I could ride and handle a motorcycle. So why in the hell don’t ALL these States require these big RV rig drivers to take a course? OK, like you Mike, I’m stepping down off my soap box now! Have a good day Mike. ♥️

@fredheddington5318

11 ай бұрын

If you have a accendent and you are overload insurance companies will not cover you in Ontario Canada 😮

Went to DOT classes several years ago in Texas and found out that livestock trailer haulers(horse trailers, goat trailers etc.) At 26k lbs needed a CDL. Many ranchers didn't know this.

6:32pm mst Great video! On a side note: Most Truck dealerships and RV dealerships don’t know anything about GVWR, payload, towing capacities and hitch weight as it relates to the truck you are towing with. As recent…brand new RV and truck shoppers, we had the hardest time dealing with salesmen (truck and RV) that didn’t understand what we needed to tow safely. We thought the dealerships would know all this, but we were absolutely wrong! We had to educate ourselves and after hours and hours of research on our own- to be quite honest-we educated some of the dealerships! Do your own research-as always! Know before you tow is for real! We learned so much! Stay safe!

@nighthawk8764

5 ай бұрын

You are sooo right. Most dealerships are much more interested in making a sale than they are in the customers safety.

As a holder of a Class A CDL, even tho I have retired, I keep it. The difference between the class A license and Class A CDL, as I see it, with a Class A CDL you also have to go thru a medical exam at least every 2 years or less if you are meds for any health issues. The Class A CDL training also covers air brakes. In my opinion it’s a good training for anyone towing no matter what.

@wardjohnson9611

Жыл бұрын

C4yt love you guys keep switching it up.

From a former trucker, thanks for sharing this info Todd 💗😊 others really need to know this!

Thank you for this eye opener! Definitely a great idea to check with your state 👍

Good job Todd!! So smart to finalize your inquiries and teach what you learned. God bless your travels.

Todd, thank you so much for this information. I love your all’s channel.

Another great video Todd - thx for helping everyone stay safe!!

Great video, Todd. Very informative about something that is usually swept under the rug

Thanks for the great information. In December of last year we changed our domicile from NY to FL. Both of us had CLD licenses because we drove school buses for over 35 years before retiring. When we changed to FL we gave up our CDL licenses since we didn't need them to drive our class-A motorhome.

Very nice video. You taking responsibility for the weight being towed is great to hear.

Thanks a bunch Todd for sharing this info with us🤗

Great video Todd, thank you for the research you did on this subject!

Thanks Todd for the good info. We live in Calif, and our friend got a non commercial class A license so he could double pull. He pulls a small aluminum boat behind his 5th wheel. We love your videos. Continue to be safe!❤

I think it's great you got your license. RV dealers should be responsible to, at a minimum have you sign some papers making you aware of the law.

@rlcarver

Жыл бұрын

I think its criminal that they sell these rigs without disclosure.

@badgerpa9

Жыл бұрын

It is a recent change in Kansa is why the DMV people Todd talked to did not know, like he said there was 4 people that knew about it.

Todd, All of this falls into one specific thing. It is called your domicile state. That is what is the most critical point. That is why you must do everything right when you decide to start traveling. Currently I live in Oregon. Under the State of Oregon guidelines I am required to have a Class B minimum to drive our HDT due to it having air brakes. Oregon does not have a destination between a Commercial Drivers license or other a Class B and A are both commercial. However you just are not mandated to have the medical since you are not performing for hire. How ever since I am for hire and have a Class A, I need to have the medical card. Now some drivers may have a medical card but have restrictions placed on them by the doctor. Such as a 30, 60, 90 day or 1 year card. Also doctors can say you are only allowed to drive intrastate and not cross country. Now back to the domicile state. We have chosen South Dakota as our domicile state. Once I retire in August we are selling everything and will be locating there for all intense purposes. That means all of our bills go there, our banking is there, our voting is there, our vehicle registration is there and our taxes. We are considered residents of the State of South Dakota.. As for driving your vehicle it is licensed in South Dakota same as you so you are bound by that states licensing requirements and all other state are required to recognize that. That's called reciprocity which is agreed to by each state. Now here's😮 where it could get really sticky if someone had a good attorney. Since most of us use You Tube and film videos for money because our channels are monetized. A good one could say we are a commercial operation and since we use our RVS to facilitate our living. Guess what you may need a COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LICENSE. JUST REMEMBER ATTORNEYS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN ROB YOU WITH A BRIEF CASE AND NOT A GUN. Safe travels and roads Brian and Cindy, "xtreambydesign with passion"

@stevedenoyer5956

Жыл бұрын

100%, in Michigan a non commercial license is not required!

So valuable information! Thanks for the details! Safe travels guys!

We learned a couple months ago that Brad will need one when we register as SD residents. Good knowledge!

Great video, Todd. I'm sure lots of people out there are unaware of this. Switch it Up!!

Great info Todd. I've seen you manuever in tight spaces, you have arrived !

Wow! My husband just checked California law. He’ll be getting his non commercial class A license now. 😊

Excellent video! Went thru the same thing in Texas about 4 years ago. Nobody seemed to know the requirements. I was able to get the required license in Livingston, TX home of Escapees. Apparently size does matter. Thanks for the video!

We are finally heading out on the road come January and you just convinced my husband he needs to get this license! Good job. Very well spoken regarding liabilities. Thank you and see you on the road soon❤

Good info. We did more research to be sure we are ok. OH is good. Thank you. Great video.

Great great great information! Thanks for putting the video together!

Going through the same thing here in NC. Most troopers don’t know this is the law. Congratulations on passing the test.

best information ever. Thank you for doing this video. Learned something new at the age of 65. keep up the great videos

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Susan for watching!

Thank you so much for this super informative and helpful video!!

Thank you for posting this! I researched this 3 years ago when I was buying my class A- bc I could not believe how unregulated everything is- I’m in CA 26,000 pounds is the spot! Didn’t even realize when towing though you count the vehicle your driving! Good stuff!

Incredible! Thanks for sharing! Fantastic information.

Thanks for the great info. I will check my state of Arizona. Thanks again.

Todd excellent video! Great information, thanks for doing all the research and sharing.

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a comment - it makes a difference!

THANK YOU for that info. Im sure you have helped many people. TAKE CARE

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Neil we appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave a comment!

Thank you Todd, I have been wondering about this for awhile in Nevada my DL says I can tow 10,000 or less nothing about combined weight. But I see an awful lot of people pulling big rigs driving way faster than I would ever think about driving. Good info

Yep I’ve known this info for a long time in Texas.

Great information, thanks, Todd.

This is an outstanding video with excellent information. A friend of mine tows a triple rig (1-ton TV, 12K 5er, and a boat trailer with boat) and has been pulled over a couple of times. His issues: GCVWR and length. With the boat trailer, he was over the 26K TV + 10K trailer combined maximum and over the length limits; he needed a CDL. Texas has the 26K GVWR limit for a Class A with a maximum 10K trailer limit. There are a lot of people pulling big rigs with a regular Class A totally oblivious to the regulations. Many thanks for putting this together. It was very valuable. Safe travels, y'all! Bob and Dottie

Bobby And i had to both do this test in Cape Breton through alittle town and one way tight side street. To get a condition A on our drivers license. We both had to unhook the trailer, drive through little side streets and then back it up in the lot.. not everyone knows you need this is you are over 10,000 pounds. But we told if something happened in an accident you could be in alot of trouble if you didn’t have it. Cheers Shelley & Bob

Great video Todd. I have been researching this since we moved to Texas. I should have looked at it before we got our licenses and left TX. Anything over 26k, meaning 26,001 lbs requires a Class A NON-CDL in Texas. 5th wheel owners 100% need one. Their law is confusing as there are two categories of exempt class A and B. Now I have to go back and get a new license. Truck is 14k and 5th wheel is 13.6k. Maria is not gonna be happy. Good news is it appears the test is only left and right turns in town and backing up in a straight line. Again, thanks for the video. We should all be covering these topics and sharing the knowledge.

I have a class A CDL and have the license has got me out of tickets. Usually I would get a warning if I got pulled over. I'm glad you did this video.

Thank you for this information, very helpful.

Great video guys! It all depends on the state you're licensed in....and most don't know that. Be safe out there!

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Hey friend! Thanks for stopping by!

Good PSA. Everyone should research this. You are correct that Florida doesn’t require this but probably should. I have seen to many Rv accidents due to improper loading or underrated trucks.

Great information. Frustrating when dmv doesn't even know the law. Great video with great info.

Another awesome video. Thanks for sharing

This is some great info!! Thanks Todd!

Great info, Todd! Thank you!

Great video Todd I just went through the same thing this week in my state of South Carolina. I had CDL’s back in 2016 because I wasn’t driving I gave them up. They could have given me the class F license and I wouldn’t have had to go through the testing procedures. The girl at the front desk told me that I didn’t need them so I took her word. She was wrong. I had to take everything all over both the written test and the driving test.

@hmarv347

Жыл бұрын

How hard is it in South Carolina. I upgraded my tow rig and the new ratings have me over the 26k

@sonnymassey4179

Жыл бұрын

@@hmarv347 its just a process with the government you have to take a written test which isn’t that hard but the driving test is a pain. First you have to figure out where the test is given if you are in the upstate go to Spartanburg there the nicest. The driving test unfortunately isn’t based on your ability to maneuver, your RV it’s based on backing a box truck up into a dock area. On my driving test I had to drive through a small town.

Some states also require your tow rig to have clearance lights on top of hood. I did not read all comments so this may have been mentioned lol

Todd, you did a wonderful job on this video. I am a over the road truck driver for over 40 yrs. Just having a CDL puts you in a club. What I mean is, your not a weekend warrior rv'r. some people get a better insurance rate for a professional license. If you do get a HDT in the future just get the air brake indorcment on your license for your own comfort of understanding the process and repairs needed for air brakes. It's your own peace of mind and keep in mind,if your over 26000, you might need to also put a NOT FOR HIRE sticker on the side of your pu.

@badgerpa9

Жыл бұрын

Kansas does not have an air brake endorsement listed for noncommercial vehicles that I saw in the statue. He does not have a CDL he has a noncommercial class A and the HDT as a vehicle has an exception for non commercial use for license plates.

Great information Todd! Nevada is one of those 17 states. Found out when I moved here from Ca. Enjoy your videos.I have been watching you from the beginning of your journey.

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video, thank you for the great information.

I was working on this very issue and had planned on making a information video about it but you pretty much got it all We live in Ontario Canada and have weight restrictions on driver licences. I just purchased a HDT to tow with and i coudnt get insurance without proving I was properly licenced...I hold a CDL equivalent licence and have been driving professionally for almost 40 years...im not the licence police, but i think some form of training & licence should be required for 8000lbs combined and above, just to keep north American HWY's safe. Thanks for doing the right thing and being a leader...👏👏👏👏👏👏‼️

C4YT - Great down to earth channel with practical information!

C4YT: enjoyed this video; very informative. My guess is there are thousands of drivers that are unaware of this info. PLUS I also imagine there are a number of states that have non commercial laws that our consumers are unaware of. Thx again & happy camping.

Thanks to you I was as confused as you on this subject. My State Nevada is the same, my weighed weight was 25456, under the 26001. My GVWRs are 14000 and 16000-over 30000- NEED NON Commercial. Note, my driving test was 2 hours. Now I am legal, thanks.

Great information once again!!!

Thank you great info God Bless

Great video. It's the same here in Texas. Anything over 26,000 lbs you got to get a non cdl license. Since I'm thinking about a super c I got to get a non cdl since they weigh more then 26,000Lb.

Thank you for this .

Interesting information. Always CYA!

Very informative! Thank you!!!

Thank you for sharing.

Great job Todd - u dah man!

Todd - previously known as "Smooth Criminal." Very informative video sir - thanks for putting it out! You don't need that type of license when you eventually move to East TN. 😉

Thanks for sharing Todd. To one of your key points in the video, it is a bit shocking/disappointing that the license bureau was not well informed and that folks don’t make this type of full discovery until they are in an untimely accident and don’t have the proper license. We are just under the 26K weight with our Class A and flat tow, but I’ll probably get the Non-CDL Class A for Kansas to keep our options open when looking for upgrading our current setup.

Good information. Thanks

Great video Todd.

Hey Tood It's good that you shared this with everyone as most don't know that it is a requirement for rigs over 26k We here in Ontario Canada have had this license requirement for a long time. Here it is called a restricted A As well if you are driving a truck with air brakes you also need a Z class air brake endorsement. This allows us to drive a HDT as long as the trailer is electric brakes. The Z endorsement is also needed for a class A motorhome if it has air brakes. Hope this helps any of your Canadian crew if they didn't know

Great information thank you

Wow, I didn't know. In South Dakota we don't need it. I also checked on Minnesota as my son has a big rig, he doesn't need it either. My son had a National Guard CDL so he knows what he is doing! I have an F-250 and travel trailer GVW 8,000. Great video!

Great information. We have a similar law in Illinois. People become confused because RVs, and emergency vehicle operators are exempt from obtaining a CDL. However, Illinois law requires your driver's license cover the GVWR of the vehicle you drive or combined truck/trailer. This has nothing to do with commercial and everything to do with the GVWR. Your license must cover the GVWR. Good Job!!!

Excellent video. Every person purchasing a big rig should be given this info by the dealer. It should be the law. I am clear as I have a little trailer, but great to know.

Great video !

Great information!

CA has the same law. If your fifth wheel is over 15,000lbs you are required to have a Non-Commercial Class A. No backing, just driving around town, wow that was great. I had to go over the braking system, steering system, safety equipment, "pre-trip inspection" of the truck and fifth wheel. Then I was required to do backing monoverse, switch back backing and so on. Once I completed this then I did a road test. To maintain this license every two years, have to summit a medical certification. Yes, I heard the same thing from other's but think of this If you don't have the license, it will only take one guy who is up on the vehicle codes. Not only can he/she give tickets but can impound your truck and fifth wheel.

Great information anybody towing a tandem axle trailer in Kansas would need this license

Thanks for making this video - very informative.

@SwitchItUpLife

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks Todd.👍👍👍

Thanks for this Todd! I’ve been pulling my rig (Texas registered, 395MS) for 2 years and had no idea! Why the heck doesn’t the vehicle registration tell you this when they register it? I mean, they ask for your DL, the weight of the rig, insurance, etc. It’s also shameful that the dealerships don’t tell you! I realize there is some confusion around it, but honestly it’s their job to know (both,vey reg and dealerships!) They are just setting owners up for lawsuits. I’m not too worried about being ticketed, it’s litigious clowns I’m more worried about! Thanks again, at least now I’m on the right path and will be spreading the word.

Great video. Thank you Todd

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I really enjoy the honesty! Congratulations 🎉 Just wish you posted the thirteen states ? Maybe you did and I missed it. When my wife ask me a Q ?🤷‍♂️

Thanks for sharing Todd. Very useful content. As always. Stay safe, stay well.

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John for Watching and taking the time to leave a comment t

We went through a similar experience in PA. My husband researched it before we started full timing and had both state troopers and dmv staff tell him he didn’t need a Class A non commercial. He drove for a year illlegally before getting it. Even then the DMV supervisor said he really didn’t need to get it as it was unlikely that he would ever be stopped. After he took the test, the same supervisor said it was good he got it because if he was ever in an accident withou the Class A license, it was like driving with no license at all.

@dkkauffmanjr

Жыл бұрын

I am curious. I love in PA as well and I asked same thing. I was told same thing as your husband because our state doesn't have a non commercial class A. I've been stopped and checked and left go with no offense. So if our state law says it's okay and police say it's okay then we are still legal? And did he have to goto a CDL school for his license or was he able to do it with his truck and trailer? Thank you for any input you may be able to provide.

Thank you Sir.

Great information. Thank you Tod.

@SwitchItUpLife

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have tried to explain this to many of the Other fulltime RV channels, But they don't think it applies. You are right the CHP, Trooper whoever pulls you over does not care what payload you have. They will look at the GVWR on the trailer and the truck then add them together for the GCVWR. You could be told to stop until someone with the proper license comes to tow your rig. If your in an accident your insurance will not cover you and you could be sued. What's even worse are poeple who tow way over the rating for the truck but that is a whole other conversation.

Great information.

Good info!

C4YT....Great stuff folks, keep on!

I believe it should be mandatory for all states to require this. Good job Todd. Those people are nuts eh... I aplod you for being responsible. 😊

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@canadiantwig. You do realize that would just be a revenue generator for the government and no more protect the public than not requiring the training at all

In NV the local DMV offices know the process for RV non-commercial Class A. The office in northern NV are pretty cool about it in that they allow you to drive your rig to the testing facility. I have heard in CA they will fail you if you drive to the test facility with the license or a learners permit with a licensed with you. The test in NV is more involved. It includes a 15 min Pre trip walk through including fluid levels, horn, lights, defroster (even in the summer), etc. Besides the road test with left turn, pull over and merge, it includes 100’ straight backup, 90 deg back into a slot, stopping accurate close, but behind a line, etc. There is of course a written test too. NV has the endorsement E for over 10,000 lbs. Non commercial is CGVWR at 26,001 and above. Think it is one reason Ford sells a F350 with a 10,000 GVWR sticker sticker so with a GVWR 16,000 trailer you are under even though I think the truck is built the same as my 11,500 GVWR F350.