Should you drop your offset smoker stack to grate level?

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  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
    @SmokeTrailsBBQ7 ай бұрын

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  • @Thechubbypig918
    @Thechubbypig9184 ай бұрын

    Absolutely it helps!! No one said engineers are smart. Lol I moved mine at grate level and added a collector. Now it works like a dream.

  • @commishg
    @commishg7 ай бұрын

    Can't wait to see you add a collector and also increase both the diameter and length of the stack. Your experimentation is helping to move the BBQ smoker industry forward. Thank you!

  • @skorrchafer
    @skorrchafer7 ай бұрын

    I did similar mods and have similar good results. Went with a stack extension and used an AC elbow inside my Oklahoma Joe's Smoker as per a previous video of yours. Those two mods leveled out my cooking temps across my smoker to withing 20-25 degrees F along the grill surface, I do use a self made heat deflector coming out of the smoker box. That might be something to experiment with as it seems baffle plates, while smoothing out temps, defeats the purpose of a smoker smoking your meat by channeling smoke n heat under and away from your meat towards the stack.

  • @FendersRule

    @FendersRule

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep. My friend gave me a metal plate and angled it upwards right next to the firebox to get the hot gases to basically travel upwards faster (in theory). This should allow one to set food a little closer to the firebox--will confirm this with a biscuit test. Then lowering the stack will draw smoke downward, putting the "heat path" closer to the food. You could argue 1) more smoke flavor and 2) less fuel needed. Lots of people just automatically buy the downwards baffle, but I don't agree with that system.

  • @cbaur88
    @cbaur882 ай бұрын

    Great video, thanks! Considered doing this on my OKJ with a collector vs. just upgrading. Weighing the costs with zero exp welding, zero tools, cost of the metal, stack, etc... and at the end of the day I'll still have a smoker with very thin metal, I think the thicker 1/4" helps with temps.

  • @mattvangampler7508
    @mattvangampler75085 ай бұрын

    I went through lavalocks to drop my ok joes stack and keep the stack height (I actually have the extender, too) the same. The flat cooks noticeably better and more even! Great video and, again, thank you for experimenting for the rest of us! Smoke on!

  • @jwill8587
    @jwill858719 күн бұрын

    Love your videos especially all the details

  • @billbryant1288
    @billbryant12887 ай бұрын

    Your video made me even more happy that a Workhorse 1969 is headed my way.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Congrats man! Nice smoker

  • @billbryant1288

    @billbryant1288

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Thanks! Love your content! Keep it real!

  • @jakebrown2336
    @jakebrown23367 ай бұрын

    Huge fan of your rub! Did it on a brisket for thanksgiving following your method as well and I’m done testing seasonings! I’ll keep following for more cooking advice as you keep testing different ways. I like the addition of the golden mountain to the wrap, wanted a tad more salt so that should help.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @Secondrunnerup613
    @Secondrunnerup613Ай бұрын

    There's a directional cover box that moves the smoke stack inlet to grate level. 4 small holes, 4 stainless steel bolts nuts and washers and you are good to go. Too much of a hassle to move the stack when this $30 mod works great!!!

  • @mattb9664
    @mattb96647 ай бұрын

    I can highly recommend Smoke Trails Brisket Rub. I haven't had time to use it on a brisket yet, but I tasted it on its own and also used it on our high quality brisket burgers and prime burgers available at the store.. just a small sprinkle of it with my normal kosher light salting- let it sit out for 15-20 minutes then grill, then let the burgers stand for 5 minute once cooked to medium temp. It just adds another dimension of flavor without overdoing it. I'll eventually write an Amazon review once I have some time to do a Saturday brisket.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you Matt!

  • @THutch556
    @THutch5567 ай бұрын

    Removing the baffle/heat deflector definitely helped a lot. Building a collector and extending the stack would be my next move. The collector will help eliminate some of the back pressure, if you’re getting a hotspot towards the front, but just extending the stack should help too. Nice brisket.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    It's next on the to do list for sure

  • @2005Pilot

    @2005Pilot

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Looking very forward to seeing the results of each. Stack addition 1st then collector. Going to be Awesome seeing each improvement 😁👍👍

  • @Cranedewd

    @Cranedewd

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m a firm believer in a collector. Can’t wait to see the results of a taller stack and added collector.

  • @SuperTurbocoupe
    @SuperTurbocoupe4 ай бұрын

    Adding a manifold at grate level will have even more of an effect. Think of the airflow, the firebox is wide, then the exit is narrow, it's having to harshly gather at one area. It does make a difference.

  • @robfreeman5783
    @robfreeman57837 ай бұрын

    The problem to me is a company that is OK with manufacturing and selling smokers with stacks above grate level probably cuts corners in other areas also (steel thickness, firebox size, etc), and that confounds the situation. I'd agree with Aaron the stack should be grate level, don't agree with moving it yourself. Just buy a better smoker.

  • @danielhoughton5373
    @danielhoughton53737 ай бұрын

    Love your videos Steve. Learn alot each time. Having difficulties getting your rub. Amazon tells me it's "Currently unavailable". Any other ways of getting hold of some?

  • @2005Pilot
    @2005Pilot7 ай бұрын

    Love this Stuff- Great Experiment! My offset (Wrangler) has the stack at grate level. 😊

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice! Grate level is where it's at

  • @stephennorako1807
    @stephennorako1807Ай бұрын

    The biggest problem with the okj chimney is the damn elbow. Straight stacks have better draw and therefore dont need to be as tall. However they do interfere with your cooking area .

  • @jeaubain
    @jeaubain7 ай бұрын

    Cool experiment, wonder how the drawn would change with a wider stack/collector

  • @gianipirva1476
    @gianipirva14765 ай бұрын

    What is the name of the ,,fridge meat wormer” you are using or any good source Thank you Giani That brisket is looking great 👀👍😋

  • @johnstarks5323
    @johnstarks53237 ай бұрын

    I'm a ceramic grill guy, myself, but I don't mind learning other types of grills. Nice video, BTW

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @2005Pilot
    @2005Pilot7 ай бұрын

    Dry “AF” !!! ROFLMAO! That fat cap definitely had the cookie bark and golden brown color. Nice Job!!

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay777 ай бұрын

    No wonder you had not been cooking in your Yoder frequently. Great success.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea I just wasn't enjoying it. I'm much happier with the baffle out and the stack lowered.

  • @vicz3719
    @vicz37197 ай бұрын

    I have an oklahoma Joe that I plan to move the stack on. But for now, there's a 3" metal elbow shoved into the stack on the inside that's turned down to about an inch about the grate. It's effective.

  • @paradiserain530
    @paradiserain5307 ай бұрын

    You can buy aftermarket piece, the bolts, the inside of your smokestack that covers up the whole and drops the pipe down lower so that you don’t have to modify the outside of your smoker

  • @richmann5746
    @richmann57467 ай бұрын

    hi Steve great job on moving the stack you know what will make your smoker a little/ a lot more user friendly pull the fender off its wright in the way all the time i know you have the technology to pull it off you can always put it back on if you miss straddling it

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    I'll think about it for sure

  • @hieyeque1
    @hieyeque17 ай бұрын

    I just bought the rub, gets here on Sunday! I have a Texas built LyfeTyme offset - I have a welder and an angle grinder - maybe I'll mod my pit on Sat so it'll be ready for your rub on Sunday.....Be kinda hard to work up the courage to cut on my sacred pit!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Good luck man! Let me know how it goes

  • @HungLikeScrat
    @HungLikeScrat11 күн бұрын

    Did you ever do the follow-up for the stack extension? I don't see it. I'm curious about that mod in particular. I just ordered a Highland Offset a week ago, should be in this weekend, and plan to do any mods during initial assembly. Wanted to know if that one is worth it.

  • @micahcollins8
    @micahcollins87 ай бұрын

    you need to get a Midwest BBQ Pit, built in Alberta!

  • @toddyell4440
    @toddyell44407 ай бұрын

    Steve Do you have pulled pork videos on your master built?

  • @xenomorf2
    @xenomorf26 ай бұрын

    Damm! I really want to purchase that rub but it says unavailable on Amazon When available definitely will buy it 👀 A Montreal fan ! 🇨🇦👍

  • @user-gc1we8cw5r
    @user-gc1we8cw5r6 ай бұрын

    When will your RUB be available again?

  • @no_skool_bbq
    @no_skool_bbq6 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to the collector and new stack mod.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    6 ай бұрын

    For sure! When it warns up

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin6 ай бұрын

    Anyone know if he has his process to clean all the metal from food? Makes me think you might as well lower the stack to under the grate lol

  • @hoongfu
    @hoongfu7 ай бұрын

    Man. I need to do this now. What benefits do a collector have?

  • @quickfire93
    @quickfire936 ай бұрын

    Potential test idea: Test what happens if you make a more turbulent airflow by putting a flat vertical plate in the cook chamber a few inches from the fire box so that smoke has to go around rather than take a direct path out. This may require a longer stack to provide sufficient draw though.

  • @Will_Dorsey
    @Will_Dorsey7 ай бұрын

    So when are we moving the stack on the Traeger?!?! Maybe it’s possible to mod a pellet smoker to be able to render fat better too???

  • @thefoleys2515
    @thefoleys25157 ай бұрын

    Great video brother! I plan on buying your rub. You should add a collector on that smoker. Look up Mike from Mystic smokers, he sells some pre made weld together kits and he is a wealth of knowledge!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I will check it out

  • @hbrown9944
    @hbrown99446 ай бұрын

    Excellent video Steve. Could you give your thoughts on the Smoke North offset pit? Seems like a great pit but wanted your thoughts

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    6 ай бұрын

    Never used it. Ask James from smokin dad bbq

  • @jasonketterl8538
    @jasonketterl85387 ай бұрын

    Wouldn’t it stand to reason to use two stacks at grate level . It would allow for even heat even through the edges of your grill. I know when I grill the edges around your grill on the inside are usually the coolest.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea I've been thinking about that. Maybe it would even out the horizontal flow

  • @TheGeemann666
    @TheGeemann6667 ай бұрын

    I lowered the exhaust on my OKJ smoker and it made a world of difference.

  • @FendersRule

    @FendersRule

    6 ай бұрын

    About to do this. What did you notice?

  • @TheGeemann666

    @TheGeemann666

    5 ай бұрын

    @@FendersRule Lowering the exhaust put more soke on the meat. I got my exhaust lowerer at the BBQ Mods website.

  • @lancefloyd8643
    @lancefloyd864322 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @dgoates20
    @dgoates207 ай бұрын

    Waiting for a brisket dry age experiment

  • @Keasbeysknight
    @Keasbeysknight7 ай бұрын

    I have a smaller offset and ive been considering doing this for awhile, but ultimately it's just a little too small for my cooking needs. I can't fit 2 briskets on it, or even 3 racks of ribs and a butt without something being right next to the fire box. I'm not sure my welding skills are good enough to make it not look shoddy when I goto sell it.

  • @2005Pilot

    @2005Pilot

    7 ай бұрын

    Which one do you have?

  • @Keasbeysknight

    @Keasbeysknight

    7 ай бұрын

    @@2005Pilot i have an OLLLLDDDD 1/4" brinkmann offset. its close to the yoder Cheyenne 16"

  • @aaronlovin2263
    @aaronlovin22637 ай бұрын

    I wonder what happens if you drop the stack below grate level?

  • @abesBBQ

    @abesBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Aaron Franklin has mentioned on a couple interviews he put his stack 2 inches below grate level to help pull down the heat

  • @grumpysgreatoutdoors
    @grumpysgreatoutdoors7 ай бұрын

    Random question..what camera do you shoot with?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Sony a7iv and an iPhone 14

  • @derekreed8366
    @derekreed83667 ай бұрын

    Really like your rub. It's too bad is doesn't say it's light on salt on the label. I watched a video of the rub and you mentioned it was pretty light on salt which is why you used a heavy coating. Kinda ruined my brisket, but I'm still using it in sammies and pastas.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Fair point! Like you went to light on it is that what you mean?

  • @derekreed8366

    @derekreed8366

    7 ай бұрын

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ Yes. I believe so. I rubbed the night before and wrapped in Saran wrap like always. Good bark and tenderness on cook, just lacked any kind of penetrated flavor

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    @@derekreed8366 I also find when I season the night before my briskets are less salty

  • @derekreed8366

    @derekreed8366

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@SmokeTrailsBBQ I usually use a light coat table salt and kosher salt mix the night before, then pepper and extras the day of. Your rub is excellent, just wish the label had instructions or amount recommended. Smoke on buddy!!

  • @igotJesus88
    @igotJesus887 ай бұрын

    Wow u can’t believe you could not clean underneath that baffle.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep, pretty baffling

  • @davidbeaumont3043
    @davidbeaumont304322 күн бұрын

    Why didn't you just cook your briskets fat side down in the original configuration?

  • @jeffvincent102
    @jeffvincent1027 ай бұрын

    Steve I want to use your rub on a prime rib. Do you think I could use it 2 days prior? Most recipes just use salt

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea for sure

  • @jeffvincent102

    @jeffvincent102

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Put your tub on chicken wings. Hour before cooking, 400 in an air fryer for 18 minutes turning at 9. Best wings ever!! On top of that my wife is diabetic so your rub is perfect!!

  • @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
    @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte7 ай бұрын

    Fatstack may not be so respected anymore 😂

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    So I hear

  • @campbellmarty36
    @campbellmarty3629 күн бұрын

    Here is simple logic!!!!… the meat that lies inside you smoker is NOT gonna realize the difference when the smoke stack gets dropped 3 damn inches!!!!!. People CONSTANTLY tried to reinvent the wheel!!!. Just cook with what you have!!!. Geeeeeezus!!!!!!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    29 күн бұрын

    Can confirm it's making a big difference in this case

  • @jeromelee1627
    @jeromelee16276 ай бұрын

    Good god those welds are terrible Who welded that Helen Keller?

  • @bubblehead7680
    @bubblehead76807 ай бұрын

    Great video. Might i suggest you tell your camera to reverse the image.I always find that distracting.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    Not sure what you mean could you explain a bit more?

  • @danielploy9143

    @danielploy9143

    7 ай бұрын

    Reads right to left.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@danielploy9143 what part of the video?

  • @Rust-eze999
    @Rust-eze9997 ай бұрын

    Your welds are ass my friend but, great video🤣🤣

  • @tinker-ing-around2317
    @tinker-ing-around23177 ай бұрын

    Honest Abe!

  • @2005Pilot
    @2005Pilot7 ай бұрын

    1st!!

  • @tinker-ing-around2317

    @tinker-ing-around2317

    7 ай бұрын

    2nd!!

  • @Romas65
    @Romas657 ай бұрын

    First things first, you have taught me more than anyone can teach on KZread, not only do you show Temps, dry rubs and little tricks you show us how to modify to get great results, which leads me to this video, I did almost the same as you did on my Oklahoma Joe's, and the results were day and night, the brisket cooked a lot better not like yours but I'm getting there, I'm still going to do two more mods on Joe, which is a baffle blocking the heat and shooting it straight upwards, see attached link on what I did with mine. Hope I'm right on the mods, so far I am. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6WJx7uDoMi0kbQ.html

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    7 ай бұрын

    That's awesome! We'll done!

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