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I'm impressed with those Linian cable clips you're using. I've just looked them up for a job I've got. Thanks 👍

Keep the good work up Jordan, and for explaining in such detail to each and everyone of us absolute top marks, Cory will soon be equally as good as your good self. Well done mate.

At 21:05 - “a megaohm is a thousand ohms” - I’d go for a million personally. Otherwise a great video.

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️

Thank you for detailing the PEN fault protection device, it was a new information for me!👍

Jordon I must say what a great video, this has been my dream to do EV charging plus renewable energy but there is only so much one can cover. You have now given me the extra push towards EV changing.

You could use a printable shrink sleeve to identify each of the 6mm cables? The shrink sleeve is available as a cartridge for the Brother label machine. It's great!

Totally understand why you are busy, if you keep producing quality work like this all the time. You are a credit to your profession, if only all electricians were like you.

Enjoying your videos, thanks. What is involved and who would you recommended to get the qualification through to enable me to install EV chargers?. Thanks.

Been in the building trade for 17 years, and now just started my course to be a electrician, looking forward to it, just started watching your videos for some insight and I will definitely be doing the ev once I can, you'd be mad not to. 👍

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@BezosAutomaticEye

3 жыл бұрын

Mate, is it virtual classroom or are they running actual classes at the moment. Yes, you'd be mad not to

@brook316

3 жыл бұрын

@@BezosAutomaticEye I'm booked in on a course with a company called Tradeskills4u in November. There's a mixture of online course and in house classes.

@BezosAutomaticEye

3 жыл бұрын

@@brook316 cheers mate. I think it was the same company I was looking at down in Warrington.

@schwarzenegger1983

3 жыл бұрын

I get a tutor to speak to when I need, I've got a domestic installation book with models, I've got to read a lot then answer the questions one each one then call my tutor, to move on to the next one, then the college is in Wolverhampton, I'm in Derby, then you do a week there, I'll no more as I go on, it's abit mad tho the way things are at the mo,

I so live those cable clips. Wish they had them in my old days. I used 3 sets of spanners which I put 3 colour tape on to tell me where they were in my tool box when used on glands. Hope this helps.

Regarding the sleeving,I use coloured heat shrink from eBay and just keep a small gas torch in the same box.. got sizes from 6mm to 16mm ,works great

@1bigsyd

3 жыл бұрын

R. D. I feel confident enough that I can use a gas powered heat gun without risk of death or injuries to myself or others...don’t forget the people who write this stuff live under an assumption that everyone is as useless as they are when it comes to the real world

The Wallbox Pulsar Plus has built in PEN fault protection too. I've had one installed and it didn't need an earth rod fitting either. Very happy with it. I went for the Pulsar over the Zappi as I have a really old house and I wanted the charger to be extremely discrete, which although the Zappi is a cracking unit it isn't that small. I introduced the ev installer that I had to Lynian Superclips, as after watching your installation of your own charger I knew I wanted them to make the job as neat as possible so I bought a bag and had them ready on the morning of the install. The installer was really impressed by them and took the packet away with him Nice installation btw. Really enjoy your videos

@frankboddeke

3 жыл бұрын

PEN fault is disconnect of neutra/earth before they split, yes? how does any of those chargers protect against that? seems to me they are not even powered as anything is floating 230v?

Hi Artisan Super Spark. Another fantastic Video dude.. thanks man.. BTW.. what did you do with the banjo.. the age old question!!

I am having a double garage built and the builder is running 10mm SWA 3 core cable from the meter underground to it. Is this different from an armoured cable or can you add ev charger to this at a later date?

Jordan, are you sure those two bends at the brick corners comply with bending radius? 6mm 3 core SWA is normally about 15mm diameter, which gives you a 90mm internal radius, your bends look tighter than that or is it an illusion of camera angle?

Do the zappys have rcd protection built in i know the 32amp rolec ones I've fitted have a 40amp rcbo installed within the unit

Great video , I have a hyundai ioniq electric , with pod point charger . Love your videos , gave me a bit of a kick up the arse to get my part P again ( have had a 5 year break as employed in a facilities role now). Also been offered an opportunity to take on some EV installs for someone once I'm up to speed on the various manufacturers courses. ( id be very interested to know what you charged for this install)

Nice install, but could you not have "fished" down the cavity ? Keep an eye on the min 150mm between switch gear and gas meter ( I think it's 25mm for cables and gas carring equipment from memory )

For armoured glands I either use 2x Bahco 9029-T 6" thin jaw adjustable spanners or the Knipex Pliers Wrench

brilliant video as usual. Where do you go for a course regarding certificate on fitting EV chargers. Kind regards John

Doing the course this month. Watching all your EV charging videos in preparation. Do you fit many Rolec anymore?

Can I ask about the tethered cable on the zappi and other units really. Is there a limitation on the length you can have connected, plus can you replace the short cable that comes with the unit with a longer lead?

Great video as always. Ive tried using adjustable grips and ive used them once and gone back to plumbers grips as the adjustable's are just to big when coming to terminate them in small spaces. I bet who ever has said they use adjustable's has ended up using the same grips as yours. Every electrician ive seen has normally got 2 pairs of grips handy and you just know why.

Hi Jordan lovely video mate, are you part of a have you undertaken a vehicle charging course? And what would you recommend ?

Is it 6mm or 10mm (square) armoured cable? Will it allow charging above 32A?

did you contact the DNO before fitting the charge point? anything over 60A you need to inform them before work is carried out?

Hi mate Which ev course I the best one to do niceic version or c&g cheers

Do you ever get the DNO stating they need to install a smart meter on the charging units?

Jarrod I noticed that you have not connected a CPC to the banjo lug at the end of the armoured cable that you brought into the bottom of the Zappi. Would you only do that if you had a TT supply? or had to drive a separate earthing rod?

I lost the last question could you please tell me how many Zappy charges I can run off the generator either 125 ampTPN E or 5 Core camlock system for a mobile possible unit run at Events sites Yours Michelle Foster

Jordan how did you bend that 20mm SWA round that corner! And doesn't the radius need to be min 12cm? Just curious as I'm considering the same as opposed to drilling at an able through the corner.

Great video! 👍

Another top video and invaluable for potential trade people such as myself, wanting to get into the EV game.

I use adjustable spanners 250mm long seem ok size.I think for 20mm swa gland you need 24mm spanners.

@doctorelectric470

3 жыл бұрын

I've always meant to get some, now I know the size I'm gonna order some, cheers

For tightening glands I use Knipex 86 03 grips with flat blades, a bit pricey but well worth the investment

I bought my first EV a couple months ago (I live in the USA). I did consider having a permanent charger installed but was concerned about someone vandalizing it or steeling it, so instead had a 50A 240V plug put in and bought a portable charger that can be sold with the car if I decide to but a car that does not use the CCS standard next time. I am not sure how the different charging standards will change and I am not sure if it would be practical to do it this way in the UK. How would you approach a situation where someone wasn't set on a particular brand EV and wanted to be able to charge different brand cars like say a BMW I3 one week and a Leaf the next?

Get yourself a dust extractor for your sds m8, game changer. 👍

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Good tip!

I noticed you used a harvi to transmit the load limiting data to the Zappi, rather than hardwiring the CT clamp to the Zappi. With a harvi the load limiting maxes at 65a but with hardwiring you could set it as high as the 100a main fuse. Was the client happy with this?

What’s your thoughts on the zappi installation manual that states the protective device is to be double pole? I would have done exactly the same as you but the manual says double pole.

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t notice that I will have to check

PEN fault is disconnect of neutral /earth before they split, yes? how does any of those chargers protect against that? seems to me they are not even powered as anything (live, neutral, earth) is floating 230v? interested to know how this works. anyone knows?

I know that Rexel sell 3-core SWA cable with the brown, blue + green/yellow cores as well as the normal brown, black, grey you tend to see everywhere

On the subject of pricing for jobs, I have seen on some EV charge point manufacturers websites prices for installation costs, ranging from 365-00 to 449-00. I'm assuming this is for labour and additional materials i.e. cable, clips etc. I understand that prices for jobs can be a closely guarded secret but can I ask are your installation costs in line with what manufacturers quote or do you have your own? I ask because I am hoping to expand into this area, I'm registered with 5 EV manufacturers and with OLEV, had 2 enquiries but come to nothing. I feel I may be pricing myself out of work if I'm sticking to manufacturers figures. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thé Myenergi Zappi is a great charger, we have three, two at home and one at our holiday home, all linked to our solar panel systems. Great bit of kit.

Bahco wide jaw adjustable wrench 6'' works perfectly with glands up to 32 mm 👌

Would you recommend a wallbox copper SB untethered I think it has pinfold detection

If there was a spare way in the consumer unit would you have used it for the charger?

I appreciates a good rack. Should have suggested to install an SPD in the CU. He probs runs a UPS in the rack but likely has nice kit around the house too which could do with a safety net.

I see that "Harvi" the gray box. Energy Harvesting Wireless Sensor Harvi is a clever little device that enables the zappi and eddi products to be installed without using a wired current transformer (CT) for measuring the grid and or generation power; instead the CT is connected to harvi. No power source is needed for harvi - the energy from the CT is harvested and used to transmit the measurement signal to the zappi or eddi. This means batteries or electrical wiring are eliminated!

Going on a ev course in September in Oldham NAPIT looking forward to it hopefully get my foot in the door 👍👍💪💪

The New Knipex water pump pliers are the best ,parallel jaws and the locking action are brilliant,86-03-180 upwards

I haven't seen an intake board like that since I was at college. 😂

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

Just a small query, are you happy that the "Piranha" Lock nut in the CCU has sufficiently earthed the SWA without an earth fly lead, I know that the Lock nut has a serrated face to it, and supposedly will scrape the paint off the body of the metal CCU.

Sleeving - heatshrink is available in pretty much any size - you don't need to shrink it.

@edc1569

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah we've use some big enough to poke your head through on some projects, not cheap though!

@royking1

3 жыл бұрын

Was going to say exactly the same. 👍

@TheChipmunk2008

3 жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same Mike... we use heatshrink on SWA all the time. I use an old hairdryer to shrink it.... not too aggressive heat so doesn't damage stuff

I have to thank you for this amazing videos!👏👏👏👏

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

What cleats did you use?? Thanks

Nice job as usual Jordan, but I think a set of SWA Storm glands would be the cherry on that particular cake. 👍👍

Nice job Jordan. Going through the zappi training material I was very surprised to find that if the Harvi is connected wirelessly to the zappi you are limited to I think it was 55 amp or there about in load limiting. So cant use settings above that. Unless I suppose you get DNO approval prior to job. Or hardwire it. It seems the Harvi signal is not reliable above 60 amp. Just something Ive learned 🤪

If I replace our 3 cars at home with electric cars (as we will have to) will I be able to charge all 3 at the same time (3 charging points) on the electric power that comes into most UK homes?

I am electrician apprentice in Germany and hope I will one day do this seems like pretty interesting hardware

What cable pulling tool did u use and where can I get one?

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Super rod mega set amzn.to/3mgKi32

Jordan you need a Knipex pliers wrench, I have Knipex 86 01 250 for the side the end user is going to see and I use Knipex 87 26 250 for the side of the end-user doesn’t see inside of boxes or load centers. We don’t have SWA here in North America but this is what I use for glads and EMT or SCH40 conduit work. Not a Makita guy, does your SDS not support the DX01 dust extractor? You could be saving loads of time and touching a broom.😉

Nice clean install Jordan but just wondering why you didn't fit an SPD board?

Great video 👍

Thank you for the video. Could you discuss running an external Cat5 cable instead of harvi? Any way to aesthetically mount cat5 with 6mm2 armoured? Would it save money on harvi but increase install cost about same amount plus not look as good? For installs where you have PV, a single Cat5 could carry all 3 CT signals a Zappi can take (I think it does anyway). Can harvi connect 2?

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

I would use EV Ultra cable now with Cat5 cable built in to the armoured able it looks neat and means you can hard wire the CTs

@jam99

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Great find! Thank you.

what mm cable is used to run a boiler fused spur

doing my EV charger course in October, looking forward to it

@JonnyFive4321

3 жыл бұрын

If you don’t mind me asking how did it go? I’m doing the domestic installer plus ev charging very soon.

I havent had anything to do with them yet but doesnt it require an RCD as its in a special location (outside) ?

@codenamenel

3 жыл бұрын

I should have watched the end of the video before asking lol

In Ireland we use 10mm2 for EV points and put them on a C42 RCBO back at the unit

Tidy job Artisan. For sleeving I would recommend heat shrink, looks like it’s been mentioned a few times below, has a smart finish once it’s shrunk down onto the conductors. EV charging is definitely a course I’ll be looking to complete in the future 👍

Im with Bulb , i have a Zappi and ive just got a powerwall and added extra panels

If that Hager consumer unit is a plastic box do you ground the armour of the cable or is it grounded by it being a metal box. It’s not 100% clear and in Australia it’s different :) great to watch and see the difference. Ring mains HMM :)

great video!

I would love my grandson to get into EV Charger Installation - could you let me know where he can do the training? Brilliant videos BTW!

@jamesanthoney978

3 жыл бұрын

Electrical Courses 4 U

Great video, my only moan (unless you fixed it after the video) is the cable ties and how you cut off the lose ends. I have a pair of Lindstrom cutters, made for small cables 1-1.5mm they're not cheap but they cut flush so you do not have the possibility of someone cutting themselves on the sharp end which in my line of business is all to common when you use normal side cutters. You can use a knife (I think you did this before on the warehouse job) but then you risk cutting the cable and or yourself or you can of course get a proper cable tie tool that pulls the cable tie tight and cuts it at the same time which is great for speed but they are also a lot of money and sometimes you don't want the cable tie mega tight.

you drilled apilot hole and then drilled again from the inside. after the pilot hole you should drill in an inch or so from the outside, that stops the brick blowing

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@fijtips112

3 жыл бұрын

The brick was blown on the pilot hole. Did you turn off hammer as you got close to the end?

@jamesknightreading

3 жыл бұрын

I think he needs a much thinner pilot drill.

@CurvedSlightly

3 жыл бұрын

Come on dude, he's doing it at someone else's property, he'll do that at his house!

nice to see an electrician who isn't complaining every 2 seconds ;-) Would love to see a video, if possible, of you retro-fitting a house with solar, battery and EV

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks. I would love to do an install like that! Maybe one day!

@sygad1

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics one of the big hurdles i've tried to get my head round is the products and how they all work together, who sells what, how well do they work with each other, is there a "kit" of products that you would install together. Whilst a physical install may not be possible yet, presenting the options would be really interesting to see and might lead to enquiries ;-)

Have you tried the EV Ultra cable with the data pair built in for the CT for the customer to monitor total load? Makes for a really nice job on Zappi installs.

@jamesmillward6286

3 жыл бұрын

Ignore that, just seen the Harvi!

Please explain why you do not earth the armoured cable to the CPC within the charging unit? I'm not saying that you've done this wrong but I would have thought that armoured should be connected to CPC both ends of the cable.

hi jordan. you can get something called a wrench plier that look like waterpump pliers but the head is a smooth surface like a wrench/spanner so you can get good purchase on it and more leverage than a regular spanner. KNIPEX 86 03 250 Pliers Wrench pliers take a look at those and see what you think. i bought one a few weeks ago and are really good for armoured cable.

How many hours did this job take? Top video as always

Buy the knipex pliers wrench. Well worth the money and keeps those glands nice and tidy

can you install an EV charging point if you haven't done the course? e.g could a 2391 nic approved contractor do it?

Knipex 86 05 250 parallel jaw pliers for SWA. Best of both worlds & don't mark the gland. I also carry the tiny 86 03 150 and the 87 01 125 which are great for tight spaces and have a surprisingly wide capacity.

Mate, you stick with the grips. As long as they are done up correctly👍🏻 I have had to use 2 spammers before but only in a flammable environment- EX rated I think and that was just coz they didn’t want the engraved rating on the gland to be scuffed up.

Another great video 👍🏻 Take a look on eBay for steel wire armoured gland spanner’s, they are dedicated spanner’s for armoured glands. 👍🏻. You can buy them as a set or separately.

Your kind of like the king of EV chargers these days 👌🏼 which charger would you recommend?? lovely neat job as always Jordan

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I reccomend Zappi for most situations. Andersen for high end and listed buildings etc and EO Mini for situations where small size is important

@georgebarlow3724

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Take a look at the Wallbox Pulsar Plus as an alternative for the EO, as it's tethered and doesn't need an earth rod, so it compliments the EO in that you can offer untethered (EO) and tethered (p+) depending upon what the customer requires

@Cablesmith

3 жыл бұрын

Artisan Electrics thanks for that ! Really appreciate it

Is three phase an option over there? Or is the power cable from the street into the house not prepared for that? In the Netherlands it is common to have a three phase cable deepening on the meter you can use all three phases. Most new EV's have three phase charging.

@timjefferson1886

3 жыл бұрын

Most homes in the U.K. have only single phase.

120 quid for crimps is absolutely bananas. get a bahco ergo adjustable spanner and a set of parallel jaw grips for your glans

Hi. Great videos! What profit price range +/- are we talking per install please? Lots of mixed reviews on pricing and profit but would like to find out some solid figures before I sit the CG course sooner rather than later. Tia

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Im working on a course to help people like yourself get into the EV Charging Installation market, let me know if you're interested and I will put you on the waiting list.

@jonathanmorris2283

Жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Can you do EV course without electric background?

Seeing a lot of people using the ferrules now, are they regs or just good practice?

Bahco adjustable spanners are good. Although some people say that the quality has gone down hill slightly compared to when they were manufactured in Sweden, I find that the new ones are still very good. They make a thin jaw version which could be handy for SWA glands. The ‘proper’ way is probably to use the appropriate sizes of open ended spanners, although the Knipex Pliers Wrench is great because you can actually clamp down on the flats of the hex, virtually eliminating the risk of damaging the gland by slipping. They also have the benefit of the ratchet-type action which speeds up tightening as opposed to constantly taking a spanner off and putting it back on again. I suppose two of those would be quite expensive though. :-)

Set of spanners always! I have 2 sets of spanners so I have 2 of every size. 9 - 32mm thats a 25 piece set. I have a Draper set and a Siegen (by Sealey) and I way prefer the Siegen. Usually a 22 for the thing in your hand when you asked. Im a mechanic by trade BTW I don't rate adjustable spanners but that's just me. They have their place I suppose Siegen S0564. Draper 26696.

The Knipex plier wrench works great for glands

Why do sparks fit earth tape to non insulated crimps?

Hi sir great job , just a word to he wise . The NIC might pick you up on not putting a c p c on the S.W.A gland . Yes even the plastic charger point should have a s/s hexagon bolt with a 2.5mm c p c from the brass banjo . Bless these governing organisation , they just love to pick us up on something . I never had a fail on an inspection , but you could guarantee they’d find something to comment on . Best wishes Mike in the U.K. 👍

At the outside charger point?

Nice option would be spd on the new board and move the it equipment over. I've been using heat shrink tubing on 6mm. And I flag with the label printer also.

Hi Jordan Just purchased a Harley Livewire will not charge on the charger Harley supply. Was not happy, But fitted two Rolec Cubes. And they work fine the Harley Charger will be replaced on the warranty they are £800. Keep up the good work looking into renewable energy and trading in my Fat Boy for the live wire I now have skin in the game.

Nice video pal

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍