No. There. I just saved you all a bunch of time.

@gregvinson1

7 ай бұрын

This guy never “made” vast sums of money. He “stole” vast sums of money.

@azamaziz7139

7 ай бұрын

Tq have a nice day

@PhillipHilton

7 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@don__hector7845

7 ай бұрын

Admire an entitled spoilt brat who thought that he was untouchable ? He stole it he never made it ,it was never his money to spend or to give

@F3RACTION

7 ай бұрын

Ok

This guy overlooks that much of the personality Sam created for himself was fake. He admitted to it and just look at how he allowed his parents to profit from their connections with Sam...

that what's wrong with the society now these days, we are supposed to admire criminals ?

@jewellui

Ай бұрын

Look at Pablo Escobar lol

To borrow from Mr. Steve Eisman, “They mistake leverage for genius. “ I want to add they can hurt you with that kind of leverage.

He is clearly smitten by SBF who treats life like a videogame. In an alter world where there is no risk and consequences doesn't matter.

@hblee88

6 ай бұрын

Kudos. My thoughts expressed perfectly.

@carpediem4512

6 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t have had a woman interviewing. The man can barely finish his points.

@shaunspadafora7943

5 ай бұрын

I think you misunderstand how Lewis' mind works. He's smitten by a good story, NOT by SBF.

I bet Sam's parents LOVE Michael Lewis

@biglemoncoke

7 ай бұрын

The parents probably paid him.

@thevelvetmaul

7 ай бұрын

That tracks

@MOVIE2GUY

6 ай бұрын

They had dinners together.

how much you got paid to muddle the water? it's a simple and clear case of precalculted frauld.

Michael Lewis’s defensiveness on full display.

@Alperic27

6 ай бұрын

dude… use your brain… he is give u an inside view of the recipes sociopaths function by … and if you want to try to con people yourself, then follow the advices…

@Alperic27

6 ай бұрын

yes … the problem is not just ‘money is missing’ or ‘money is not missing’ … it is about what does it mean that a small number of people are ready to live outside of all the rules commonly accepted as ‘the norm’ … if you have people who routinely lie to large masses of idi0ts in the name of what they want to achieve, then it is a breakdown of society. so this whole thing tells us about us …

Was SBF intelligent - probably; was he devious - definitely; did he display sociopathic behaviour - definitely; did he behave unethically - absolutely; was he devoid of empathy - yes; is Michael Lewis missing the point of embezzlement - sadly Yes.

@petercofrancesco9812

7 ай бұрын

All Michael Lewis cares about is making himself seem important and selling books. He initially thought he was writing the story of financial genius in the making and now that he was doped, he tweaked it to be about the misunderstood genius who flew too close to the sun.

@lydiab6063

7 ай бұрын

I am no fan of SBF. The book is good. Read the book.

@petercofrancesco9812

7 ай бұрын

I don't respect Lewis. He embodies the worst in "journalism" if you can call what he does that. He acted as a conduit for Sam to sell this fake persona to the public. He was so infatuated with Sam and pleased with himself for getting the inside scoop he never considered fact checking what he was being fed. @@lydiab6063

@ElaraNightsky

7 ай бұрын

Effective Altruism = stealing money from poor ppl to buy luxury mansions for yourself😂😂 Michael Lewis never got it

Ah yes, from his culture's point of view, destroying your host is the ultimate display of skill

Effective altruism = greed is good

@Sotoberi

7 ай бұрын

Did he ACTUALLY help any underprivileged, sick, or poor people with that money? Was any real altruism ever displayed? Or does that EA Society define altruism as donations to the wealthy?

@lindadeeds5326

7 ай бұрын

@@Sotoberiactually, the EA movement doesn’t support helping people as much as they do preventing things that could end the world. So Sam donated money for pandemic prevention- that happened to be given to his brother and his parents’ employer! So the people who benefited most were his family.😂

12:20 that face when you know you lost all journalist integrity

The old story since time immemorial: GREED on everyone's part

Nothing but smitten with a conman's game. Ridiculous that he could be pulled in so deep that FTX crumbling has left him scrambling to double down or face the truth.

@shaunspadafora7943

5 ай бұрын

Lewis is smitten with a good story, and this is indeed a good story. It was the same with Billy Beane & Michael Burry.

Took way too many irrational risks. Reckless behaviour needed to end before it became a billion $ blow up.

Watching Michael try to save his book is pure comedy

Lewis was a personal advisor to SBF at a time when Fried was making a lot of decisions that were illegal. Lewis needs to be put under oath and asked a lot of uncomfortable questions.

How we create false images What a disaster.

Michael Lewis has completely ruined his reputation during this period of defending SBF

Michael Lewis trying to play Nick Carraway in Great Gatsby? Is SBF the ugly Jay Gatsby?

@jonitufarr

7 ай бұрын

This is so niche and I'm here for it

It's not very intelligent to lose that much money

Question is - How much was he paid? Also, he needs to be on their good side so he can sell his book and eventually sell the rights to Hollywood!

How is anybody still taking Lewis seriously?!

No he is a fraudster.

This guy wrote the most delusional book ever.

@gfxpimp

7 ай бұрын

Was anything in his book incorrect?

@biglemoncoke

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, SBF was not worlds youngest billionaire, he stole depositors funds.

@jewellui

Ай бұрын

Bible *cough*

Sam definitely paid this fool to write the book

@biglemoncoke

7 ай бұрын

yeah he is shilling SBF

@marciacampos9966

7 ай бұрын

The problem is that Michael Lewis is not a fool. He is compromising his reputation.

@lydiab6063

7 ай бұрын

I disagree. I read the book.

@ryanswild

7 ай бұрын

@@lydiab6063 well say no more lol

@biglemoncoke

7 ай бұрын

@@lydiab6063 are you a bot for SBF?

Damn…. Michael Lewis is arrogant af

No. Someone's thinking is chaotic and magical.

I think Lewis is an excellent writer and a honest person.

Not a nice man. Hard to watch this.

Nothing to laugh about here!!!!

My bet is that he got paid big bucks. everyone has a price

Michael Lewis gossiping about SBF like he’s a schoolgirl in junior high is so cringey and disgusting.. does he not understand that real people had their lives ruined because of SBF and FTX?

@theresachung703

7 ай бұрын

This has told me something about Michael Lewis

@RR-et6zp

6 ай бұрын

lol, true

I guess that depends if your aspirations are a long life behind bars.

How much false information . He is aa bad as Scam Bankman Fried

What sort of question is this? Should we admire dishonesty?

Michael got hooked like a fish

Just as clueless as his jailed friend.

Answer: Not unless we admire jail time too.

Isn’t it amazing how such a talented and interesting writer can be such a complete nitwit

@theresachung703

7 ай бұрын

So right. So odd how he is so in lie

Here's the answer: NO

Fascinating interview. I could listen to him talk anytime. I think he had a few cups of coffee before this one, but it was still great.!

He doesn’t have nothing. He came from a wealthy family

It's really sad watching what has happened to Michael Lewis.

@hblee88

6 ай бұрын

Agree. Will wait for him to evolve after he gets over the giggliness of being in the heart of a tornado and writes a post script book.

Never meet authors, They are always worse in person than their books.

Even the host recognised he was taking Sam at face value or somehow being besotted by him. Lewis then got his nickers in a twist. The whole world thinks his treatment of Sam is a bit on the rose tinted side to say the least.

Don’t suck SBF too hard Micheal.

Micheal Lewis probably got paid by Sam. Kevin o Leary also supported Sam and he was paid a million per hour.

Did he actually suggest that SBF’s 20% stake in Anthropic (which is valued at $30 billion - totally illiquid btw) is going to be used to pay back investors? That is insane. This guy is delusional.

@SantosSantos-bf5sz

2 ай бұрын

Like if a bank robber promised to pay back the bank.

Wait why is this guy so fascinated by Sam bankman story, almost in an envious way

I am not even going to watch, this guy just wants to stay relevant and doesn't want to rewrite his book

This man has no clue of finance , economics or business sense. The teachers were right, but the public that reads him , as ignorant as the writter

Long story short SBF is going to jail, don’t know about his internet status.

Lewis has lost his mind.

The question in the title is diametrically opposed to your username.

Get a room guys……

Turns out Sam was just a very average kid, who a lot of people were tricked into giving their money to.

Yes. Democratic party can be controlled by donation.

I don’t know what you call this book. It’s not journalism, though.

This guy seems impressed by cluelessness.

INTELLIGENCE DIVIDED...Mike Lewis is NO GENTLEMAN....Absolutely RUDE to the Host...SHAME...SHAME...SHAME!

What the hell, Mike

The Court will determine when FTX was "insolvent" not "bankrupt." Fighting this is very dificult because the question of insolvency controls.

"Should We Admire Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX?" - No. Just saved you 28m and 04s. Now that Michael Lewis has completely ruined his reputation defending this multiple convicted fraudster, you can skip reading any of his books too.

This is my first time seeing Michael Lewis speak and he comes off so defensive. Like he is protecting his ego and that’s the whole point of the interaction. Like he just can’t face how wrong he got it.

Something seems 'off' in his discussion , as if he had a deep inner uncertainty that he had been conned by SBF, and/or that there was a deeper level to the SBF phenomenon that he is mystified by.

I understand you gotta sell your books, but it’s ridiculous. Sam is a sociopath that charmed you, sadly he didn’t have an opportunity to steal your money and use it “for the greater good” (dining with bigger celebs etc), maybe that would’ve changed your mind? Honestly, that’s disgusting.

14:28 all the people who were with him, turn on him. All the media, turn on him… That is, everyone except Michael Lewis.

this was a very good interview. sadly:)

@theresachung703

7 ай бұрын

100

You did not warn people to save their money out of FTX.

Michael Lewis provides an interesting perspective. His book plus SBF's court days will shed more light on what went on.

Intelligence subtracted

@sarahmalan8946

7 ай бұрын

Intelligence Divided!

Michael is rude....

Michael he doesn't sleep because he takes adderall duh

Michael Lewis is telling the truth. “At a bankruptcy hearing in April 2022, an attorney for FTX said $7.3 billion in cash and liquid crypto assets had been recovered from the exchange.” Yet customers haven’t received their funds. What else is really going on here? This is not a Bernie Madoff situation. Albeit not all, the money is there. Could the other 1.5b be tied up in SBF’s betting on upcoming A.I. firms? Curious.

@mattius459

6 ай бұрын

It is a Bernie Madoff situation. The hearing in April 2023 was after crypto market had bounced back. In other words, Sam got lucky that the assets he still had rose in value over time. It would be the same as if Madoff stole his customer's money, bought some powerball tickets, and then actually hit the lottery. It doesn't change the fact that Sam/Bernie took their customer's money and gambled with it. This was the exact example given during the trial that Sam was convicted in last week, and was the reason why it wasn't admissable evidence.

He is what his parents groomed him. They are interesting to learn more about.

It's like the emperor with no cloths. Everyone praising this dysfunctional character because they think they are too stupid to see the genius everyone else sees in SBF.

I get why Michael Lewis was initially drawn to Sam Bankman-Fried. He has some of the same personality traits as a lot of other characters from his books, and is quite explicit about that as a reason he was drawn to him. The problem is that I think he became too absorbed in SBF's world and stopped looking at him objectively. Once the evidence starts coming in about the fraud case and the collapse, you have to be willing to change your perspective. I don't see Michael Lewis casting enormous amounts of doubt on the prosecutor's case, but he's still too credulous about SBF. I can put myself in his place and see how he may have gone there. But being credulous when everyone now knows what kind of fraud he's been up to is a very bad, reputation damaging move. Michael Lewis is one of my favourite writers, and seeing him still be this credulous about a guy who is clearly a con man saddens me. I still think his other books are great.

Let's name drop our way to glory! Laughable...

@SantosSantos-bf5sz

2 ай бұрын

Jeff Bayzos

It's a pitty we wasted time on answering that audiences member's question...

It's just true that people can't separate "this guy did something to my finances" and "his intent and personality may not be as strongly negative as I *need* it to be". People need to collapse nuance and make the guy a 2D film-like villian to feel better.

@user-qj1ex4ui1h

5 ай бұрын

‘Did something to my finances’ actually isn’t separate from ‘intent’- even if you put aside the personality. What Sbf did to peoples finances was fraud, and the intent behind it was both deliberate and careless, certainly not accidental or coincidental. That literally is 2D villainy, it’s type straightforward, depending on how enchanting you find his neurodivergence and slovenly appearance

Why does everyone discredit Michael when he knows him better than most. Just cos you don't like what you hear don't mean it's not true.

This guy was clearly paid $$ by SBF. It’s so obvious it’s cringe

i cant wait for the movie.

I couldn't even listen to this after the halfway point, I just turned it off and gave up. She couldn't shut up long enough for him to finish a thought.

Of course. So many people are greedy, and are willing to suspend critical thought in order to satisfy that greed. He created a place for them to do that. Without effort, without a plan, without even knowing what he was doing.

No. Gross.

Lewis is full of BS just because SBF is his friend we are supposed to bealive him, Lewis, because he says bealive me, he is no different from SBF they are both full of BS

SBF became an overnight sensation, and people flocked to him like moths to flame. This is very much a part of the story, and I appreciate Michael Lewis' ability to tell this very nuanced story.

@user-qj1ex4ui1h

5 ай бұрын

He doesn’t tho. He just dickrides the guy and fawns over his sloppy neurodivergent ‘genius’ without criticality

No No No and No

He got off easy, 25 years. Judge not impressed.

This guy is just SHAMEFUL

This excellent, super entertaining I can't wait to read the book.

This guy stutters a damn lot

A first class financiopath

Crypto twitter is gonna hate michael lewis for giving a nuanced analysis. The most complex thing they can understand is "line go up", everyone is so traumatized by rug pulls they demand the rest of the world agree that "sam is a scammer" haha sorry guys, its not that simple

@GEB-yy3ud

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, he stole in a sophisticated way.

Whatever the outcome and whatever one thinks of SBF we should be thankful that the world has someone like Michael Lewis to chronicle characters and events that most people would never understand. The moderator is quite annoying and a little rude.

This is disgusting

This author is just a twit. Light upthe world in a different way? Straight out mismanagement by clowns and incompetents.

SFB been clappin’ those cheeks 💯