Should 'F3+A' Be Banned on Friend Or Foe?
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F3+A is a game feature in Minecraft with the primary use of reloading chunks for cases where blocks in certain chunks are not loaded in correctly due to chunk loading errors and other visual bugs. But did you know that this single feature is being used for more than just visual bugs? It's being used to see entities, particles, and even players through solid blocks.
This constant use of the debug key binding has grown a reputation for ruining traps in the latest season of SB737's Friend or Foe PVP series, with ClownPierce being the individual that is being heavily targeted for his continuous use of the feature.
This video covers three arguments from either side of this issue with some background gameplay on Hypixel because... why not?
I ask that no hate is to be endorsed from this video towards ClownPierce or anyone else. Thank you for watching!
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Friend Or Foe Members:
@ClownPierce
@mini-minecraft
@SB737
@QuiffYT
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:53 Context
1:54 It's just a game feature
2:33 Anyone can do it
3:45 Only entities and particles
5:01 It is considered as cheating
7:23 It's overpowered
8:12 Less fun to watch
9:05 Outro
Пікірлер: 176
Hey!! Great vid! I've had short chats with the ForF boys and they're generally fine with F3+A but seeing the backlash I decided to stop using it a while ago, I do agree that it feels a bit too strong in the videos I use it in. I don't mind taking on a bigger challenge by not using it anymore.
@Charky32
11 ай бұрын
Yo when you uploading the end fight? Minis perspective only lasts until he dies
@yannickdias
11 ай бұрын
W
@tahmidrahman5367
10 ай бұрын
Hmm, cant u use pie chart to locate block entities such as minecarts tnt or item frames and use gamerender to locate the specific chunk
@nightaloryt5653
10 ай бұрын
Ok so clown, whenever I use F3+A I can’t see traps or players, how do I do that Also I personally do care if u use F3*A I think it’s a smart way to escape traps
@Unjoyed
10 ай бұрын
Have you found a way to be able to see entities and not just particles? I have the same problem@@nightaloryt5653
I like how Clown using f3+a makes him even scarier. He is already jumpscaring Sb and Mini by portal trapping them and accidentally killing both of them. I think him just standing, knowing exactly where they are while they hode underground, walking away and then laughing really lets him fill the role of the guy who everyone is scared of. Clown is cool.
@MAXPLAYZ1YT
11 ай бұрын
it really does make him a lot scarier it makes everything seem so intense
@oklol7799
11 ай бұрын
It just makes his approach more predictable and annoying rather than suspenseful and scary.
It feels like the others have realized they can't kill Clown, so they just decided to let him go insane from paranoia instead
Keep it it makes the series longer and will force players to use more complex traps and makes the series last longer with more content so it is a win win for everyone in the long run
@tasha6934
11 ай бұрын
wdym complex traps bro???? tf?? Thats not gonna help you dum dum
@Prororo
11 ай бұрын
Complex traps? The same complex traps that use item frames are foiled by it
I think the fact that everyone makes this big of a deal about it and the other server members STILL haven't made clown stop tells me that they are ok with it.
@megaedeath8063
11 ай бұрын
hell iirc 1 of the members in 1 of Clown's vids referenced it and just called him a "little xrayer" and left it at that
@shadowstrike1233
11 ай бұрын
@@megaedeath8063 yh and as a joke
Good job mr golden rasplin in a suit.
@rehalplayz8299
11 ай бұрын
Bro are you dumb? That is literally one of the most common mask shapes on minecraft skins
meanwhile sb makes void traps with exploits
@hillybankok
11 ай бұрын
tbh f3+a doesn't require anything
@bradcrosby6030
11 ай бұрын
F3a does have a lot more controversy tbf. Also some people can’t do it bc their pcs can’t handle it(mine included, I can only see particles through blocks) but don’t get me wrong I love it
@onikizii2366
11 ай бұрын
He uuses glitches not exploits
@IndigentData88
10 ай бұрын
Its a glitch not an exploit
@hillybankok
10 ай бұрын
@@IndigentData88 do you even know what exploit even means
This doesn’t apply to me, It’s my friend. But when he F3+A’s his device is quite low end and he can’t see entities only particles with any render distance. So technically higher end do have an advantage. But I assume this doesn’t apply to everyone.
@DodoMan22
2 ай бұрын
yeah that happens to me too i cant see any entities, i just can see particles how can i fix that?
@abdoman90
Ай бұрын
@@DodoMan22use optifine
For traps, using crafting table and dripstone then, since the F3+A only see entities, and also easier to acquire resources
Bro this vid is fire, I didn't believe it when you only had 44 likes!
nice vid keep growing the channel :)
Your definitely right about that last part. It would be up to the current members of "Friend or Foe" to decide if its wrong to use F3+A. On the most basic terms, everyone who's been trying to combat Clown using traps to counter his pvp skills is wasting there time unknowingly. They don't know about this. Honestly, it does take away from the content by a little. (No trap has gotten completely foiled to F3 + A yet, the worst it did was expose SB working with Mini). The element of surprise is dead from traps excluding the ones from the nether are dead. There's no arguing about that. F3 + A took that away. (Unless you're not Clown). F3 + A was never meant to show the location of entities or particles. It could be compared something I found out about Minecraft not that long ago. Apparently, Minecraft does all that it can to remember what has happened in your single player world. One day, I accidentally cut the power to my PC, and it had an unexpected side effect on Minecraft's progress save feature. When I logged back in, Minecraft had remembered things incorrectly. At first, it looked like it had just reset my progress a little. It uncombined a bow I had previously combined, but given me back the levels, and placed every item that I had taken out of my ender chest back in my ender chest. However, after taking everything back out of the ender chest, and then opening my other chest, I discovered that everything I had placed in there before was still there. Minecraft had accidentally duplicated my items! Just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I looked for the ender dragon egg, and there were two of them instead of one. If I learned the secrets of why Minecraft did what it did, and then applied it to a mulitplayer server, would it be fair? It may be a glitch, but anyone can do it. They just don't know how, that's the problem. It would be an exploit only I'd have the pleasure of using. The same goes with "Friend or Foe." No one else knows how to use, and therefore they're at an unfair disadvantage.
@Kamfys
11 ай бұрын
you realise f3 + a is literally in their rules doc right
@razerfirebrand1163
11 ай бұрын
@@Kamfys No it's not. I literally checked their rules or at least the ones SB posted on his first episode of the season. It's not mentioned anywhere on it. (May literally be something new for the members to decide against or for). Where did you get your set of rules mentioning f3+a?
@megaedeath8063
11 ай бұрын
you do realize that 1 of the members when confronting Clown (think it was SB) referenced his f3+a usage and only called him a "little xrayer" and left it at that right?
@razerfirebrand1163
11 ай бұрын
@@megaedeath8063 no, do you remember which episode?
@megaedeath8063
11 ай бұрын
@@razerfirebrand1163 Clown episode 11 at the 9 minute 9 second mark
I want to share my opinion . I am a speedrunner and we ( speedrunners ) usually use f3+f to increase or decrease chunk loader and f3+a to load chunk . Which mean f3+a is a speedrun trick . All i want to say : f3 + a isnt cheating , it is speedrun trick . But i am SB and Clownpierce fan . I dont want to say clown was hacking but i feel so sad for Mini and SB because they didnt know this deadly trick . I feel so sad for SB bc he dont know , if he know this trick he will more careful when he built a trap . F3 + A let u see xray entity , Clown can see trap bc sb use item frame and minecart ( entity ) . So we can say there no way clown will be trapped in overworld . The only way to trap and kill him is nether portal trap bc he will not fast enough to relize anything ( SB can u invisibility potion , take off armor and trap clown , this will be deadly )
I didnt know about it till now thanks man time to go use it.
This was a really great video, nice work. In my opinion I think they should disable everyone from using such feature because it’s able to counter certain traps and find out specific locations of whoever’s near.
Haha was in the video. It does make traps useless and the series less fun so it should he removed. Good video.
-Is F3a bad for the series? -Yes -Is Clown using this on purpose to ruin the series? - Heck No -Does using this make Clown a bad person? -No -Would clown most likely stop if he noticed how controversial it was? - Yes
@DarkXypher
11 ай бұрын
Does sb allow it? -Yes
@Yr_Lx
11 ай бұрын
Is it against friend or foe rules -No
@ItzOpoinT
11 ай бұрын
Facts
@razerfirebrand1163
11 ай бұрын
@@DarkXypher How could SB allow it if he doesn't even know about it?
@Supermadboi
11 ай бұрын
he just has a good gaming chair
3:08 “anyone can do it” me on Nintendo switch
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
Everyone who plays Minecraft bedrock edition
"if is accessible to everyone" wrong. for some people like me, for some reason it doesn't work, and instead just freezes my game for a few seconds, not even showing other peoples location.
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
It’s not a built in feature and look at the end there are some anarchy servers like 2b2t that allow hacks so it’s up to the people to decide what’s right and wrong
@DodoMan22
2 ай бұрын
yeah that happens to me too
Bruh I didn't even know people complained about this
pvz music bringing me childhood memories :(
Sure the F3 a debate is great and all, but why are you so goated at dropper?
lets talk about the pie chart then, that ruins all the hidden bases
Bro a nice information Btw will you team up with me and let us play Minecraft together from India ❤❤❤
No it's perfectly fine. If you want to ban it then ban the f3 screen too as well as any other glitches and exploits
@gingycookie
11 ай бұрын
this but unironically
In the "anyone can do it" part people say that "lOweR eND pC'S cAn't dO iT sO it's An unFaIr aDVaNTage" to that I respond with some people with lower end pc's can't play minecraft at all. so tell me not being able to play minecraft is an unfair advantage?
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve seen ppl run 40 fps and you can’t fix everything but I do think that mc should make some sort of optimization update
But then zoom from optifine is too 'a cheat' but i dont want to hate😢
Actually it isn't accessible to everyone as lower end pcs can't even do it sometimes
what server is that? the discord one oop nvm
anyone else only watching the dropper or is that just me?
i have a pretty decent pc that i would consider to be middle end. i can run most modern games at 144 fps consistently on high graphics settings. even with a computer like that, every time i try to use f3 + a it lag spikes my game so i can't even use it. so, personally i'd consider it an extremely unfair advantage because i feel like a lot of people can't even do it if my computer can't. it's also really cringe to basically have a built-in xray in the game that lets you see players through walls, even if that wasn't the intended use. that's clearly not how the game was meant to be played. i think it should just be taken out of the game for that reason. the only people that defend it are the ones that can abuse it in that way.
Walmart Rasplin
I mean the other members are fine with it so it should be ok Edit: 2:33 it sometimes just doesn't work for me, idk why, so that statement isn't exactly factual, but still, others being ok with it is the most important part
i only see particles
Then Ill go install an xray pack right away but without the ores. So clown just ignores this? He should be on like 7 lives
@delta2370
11 ай бұрын
Xray packs arent a vannila feature. F3+a is litterary a game feature. Are we gonna ban breaking bedrock or the pie chart?
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
The pie chart is way more op than f3a anyways but that’s besides the point I agree your right and that it’s a vanilla feature and anyone can do it so what’s wrong with using an in game mechanic ofc not intended but no one has ever tried t on patch it
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
*no one has ever tried to patch it
Yes
It’s actually not fair because Mobile and much more can’t use it But if they are all pc players it’s fair because they can all use it
@user-ci4pt7dv3u
11 ай бұрын
Bro its a java server 🗿
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
dude nobody who plays bedrock can use it which means it isn't fair on servers where both bedrock and java plays can join but its entirely fair on full java sevrers like friend or foe
@marten12340
11 ай бұрын
Lol
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
Bedrock players can’t use it so he’s right anyone on a phone or console is it a large disadvantage compared to pc players
@user-ci4pt7dv3u
11 ай бұрын
Also it is fair to crossplay too. Bedrock is just a skill issue git gud pc and play java
Heavily underated KZreadr
NO HE SHOULD NOT BE BAND
yes
I’m fine with it coz u can say clown is playing dirty but sb is playing just as dirty using portal traps and tnt traps and things like that
Thay all use it and thay all know
In the wise words of The Spiffing Brit "It's not cheating, it just a creative use of intended game mechanics" also the comparison to Bedrock Breaking doesn't work for Friend or Foe even if it was comparable normally as SB used it to trap Clown's portal
I literally can't use f3+a are you ok?
@Tovf
11 ай бұрын
idk how that is fair
@gingycookie
11 ай бұрын
@@Tovf why can't you use it
@Tovf
11 ай бұрын
@@gingycookie idk it doesn't work
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
I know dat one
@Tovf
11 ай бұрын
@@ThatCatLee ?
This should be definitely banned in FoF, it's so unfair to SB737
F3+A doesn't work on 1.20.1 sodium i think its patched
@delprr
10 ай бұрын
In fact, F3+A is way better with Sodium and is not patched!
@h4m1m
10 ай бұрын
@@delprr i used f3 + a with sodium in 1.20.1 and it didnt show the entities but i used f3 + a with sodium in 1.19.4 and it worked perfectly fine
@delprr
10 ай бұрын
It's not exactly a bug so there isn't any need to patch it. It works fine for me when I'm on 1.20.1 Sodium so maybe its something on your end? I'm not entirely sure.
@h4m1m
10 ай бұрын
@@delprr what sodium version are u using
I have decided that the answer is No. Everyone who disagrees is wrong from now on
dang if only i didn't have a mechanical keyboard lel
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
dang if only my f3 key existed
Cool vid but not your point to say so. It’s in the game so it’s fine
with duping they try patching it, f3 a hasnt ever been patched
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
it doesn't need to be patched because it does what its meant to do. It reloads the chunks and there isn't a way to stop it doing that. seeing through walls is just a side effect of that
@star_shot
11 ай бұрын
@@ThatCatLee thats what i tried implying, sorry if that wasnt clear
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
@@star_shot "ok" CatLee declared
@Fad1ngRainbow
11 ай бұрын
@@ThatCatLeelocal question = “why are you talking like this” print(question)
@ThatCatLee
11 ай бұрын
@@Fad1ngRainbow "I don't know" CatLee replied.
How about no. Because it's literally a game feature. Plus it makes it more interesting. If you think it's cheating you are just a newbie who wants it easier.
@Greaful
11 ай бұрын
Listen to the god damn end of the vid where it says it’s their decision :/
@LootMyCorpse
11 ай бұрын
@DexterMorgan-mh4vy ok so people just Fallin into random made trap that involves no effort once so ever is better? At least it is still possible to kill him, just be smart about it.
bro just let clown do what he wants to its not considered cheating its just a game mechanic
@martinjohnson3914
11 ай бұрын
It makes the series less fun
@hanchmt2823
11 ай бұрын
@@martinjohnson3914i agree and also makes the series shorter than the fof season 1
@crunchywashere3513
8 ай бұрын
Worst argument ever, it is technically a "game feature" to drug yourself before a competition, right ? Because everyone can do it
By the way clown must not use as the others don't used this debug. Maybe we should ban this
i can only see particles with f3 a can someone help
@Turtle750
11 ай бұрын
try not holding a down
@S.P.Q.Rrespublicas
11 ай бұрын
It depends on your setup. Low end will cause few second screen freeze, it needs decent set up
It's called being smart.
F3 is better than you
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Nah wasnt that argument already over? Its a vanilla feature + rules didnt included + its a strat that almost every SMP & Anarchy player needs to know. Why should it banned? Because SB consistently tries to trap Clown in like every episode and not PvP? Imagine arguing over a vanilla feature 🗿 If exploits are not allowed, then why SB broke bedrock for making void trap to Clown?
In my opinion I think it should be banned or at least be reduced somehow Clown has used this to easily see traps and avoid them Clown is the best player on this server and everyone has come to the conclusion that he can’t be beaten in pvp (at least for now) So they use traps but with F3+A, they are easily foiled and thus making clown near invincible Also, the human nature argument isn’t very valid since it’s a video game I mean it is human nature to be cautious but is it human nature to kill someone? It isn’t
It's not a bug, it's a feature. That is Mojang's motto.
How does this guy have less than 1k?
clown is just smart I think creative
Yes