"You've spilled AR on to my HK!!!" "NO YOU SPILLED HK ON TO MY AR" the two purists who hate it.

cool to have that and the STG44 in the collection. all using the same mags

I was hoping for an HK 93 clone from PTR, but this is pretty cool as well and has the benefit of using STANAG magazines.

Now time for DSA to start making the FNC

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

the FNC and CAL have literally nothing to do with the FAL. literally nothing

@manganvbg90

Жыл бұрын

@@rustys.1070 both made by FN, and dsa produce the fal why not fnc? ;)

@1973sonofodin

5 ай бұрын

Pindad Arms from Indonesia was at SHOT and they're importing licensed pistol versions of the FNC this year. These are 100% licensed copies. They're importing the Beretta M12 pistol too.

@1973sonofodin

5 ай бұрын

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@manganvbg90

5 ай бұрын

@@1973sonofodin saw that. just 15 years too late

All I wanted from PTR was a HK93, but they over delivered and gave me a HKG41. I'm very excited for this one

It should have been an HK93 clone

I’m sorry PTR but this thing is just ugly. You should have made what everyone wanted which is a HK33 clone. Not everything need to take AR mags. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@joshpifer9852

Жыл бұрын

I agree, disappointed with them this year.

@WPSent

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. HK33 mags are too expensive if you want to run this gun any amount. Not like they are G3 mags here. Super excited to get this.

@CxS_Nico

Жыл бұрын

@@WPSent If PTR partnered up with duramag or c-products to make an affordable and reliable HK53 magazine that would be dope.

@WPSent

Жыл бұрын

@@CxS_Nico Oh, i'm game if Duramag or Surefeed would get on the HK33 train. But the only problem there is lack of last round bolt hold open. While not needed, I am spoiled with that feature on modern magazines.

@Front-Toward-Enemy

Жыл бұрын

@@WPSent Fuck it, imma be that guy, their is no reason to choose this rifle over an AR15 to do anything serious with. So your argument about hk53 mags being to expensive is doesn’t mean a damn thing.

Lmaooo it would have just been cheaper to sell an HK93 clone and sell $40 proprietary mags. $1800 to save pennies with AR mags

Honestly it looks half baked and they should just make the HK33 93 mags available and affordable and make true HK clones.

Wish they made a 1:1 93 clone instead...

They completely ignored left handed controls here But cool brass deflector

PTR slowly becoming my favorite HK clones... keep improving guys and do your shit!

That looks wonky to me. I understand that they probably just have the equipment for g3 flats, but it looks silly to me. They need to get equipment to make hk33 or hk53 flats. If they made a hk33 that took stanag mags and had a bolt catch, I'd buy one lickity split. I still think this might be a good gun, but knowing that the hk33 exist is tainting my view of it I suppose.

@danielgreen6547

Жыл бұрын

@@Workingonnit It kind of reminds me of the episode where Homer Simpson designed a car for his half-brother Herb. Maybe this thing will shoot much better than it looks. It is possible I guess.

@556ChannelHD

Жыл бұрын

Not just you bro!!

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

it was HK's final roller delayed rifle called the g41

@WizOps

Жыл бұрын

It would have been nice if they made a G41 instead of some frankenrifle.

When Century imports the AP5 and AP8, this will be over.

While I love the STANAG compatibility, I never really wanted a last round bolt hold open on an HK93 reproduction. I’ll be interested to see how this stacks up against the Zenith that’s going to be released.

A shell deflector is nice and all, but I'd still rather have a lefty charging handle. Just cut the slot in the other side, it literally doesn't require any new parts to be made.

I too was hoping for an HK93 and HK53 clone, so this falls very short on my ideal aesthetics; but, still +1 for innovation.

I'm more interested in the optic on the piece below it is that a commercially available thing?

Roller locked 5.56 with ar mags...this seems like a great rifle for shtf to me.

Who asked for this over a 33/33k/53? Smh. G3K and 33K clones, how hard is this to understand?

The market has needed a roller delayed blowback 5.56 for a while now. Not counting the ones that were available years ago that arent any more.

@joeytomato

Жыл бұрын

...which should tell you that the market didn't actually want it. If there was a big demand, someone would have made one, and it would be selling. This will go no where.

@lucastonoli3256

Жыл бұрын

@@joeytomato If that was really how it always worked, there wouldn't be any surprisingly successful products. Sometimes the market doesn't know what it wants, a lot of times it is better to make whatever the fuck you want to make and stick to it while promoting it as efficiently as you possibly can. Consumers are not always right.

@pliskenx51mm83

Жыл бұрын

@@lucastonoli3256 Dude between this new offering by PTR, PSA offering an STG 44 and B&T Now offering Dragunov's I have never seen so many beat down, lonely is the word, miserable people! People should be happy to see all these new firearms coming out! Variety is the spice of life and yet there are so many against these new firearms. Quite sad. I for one am looking forward to the PTR 63!

@pliskenx51mm83

Жыл бұрын

@@joeytomato But what happens if this doesn't go nowhere? hmm? What if this firearm turns out to be quite successful? Will you cuddle your AR15 and cry in the corner? I don't understand the negative mindset regarding these new weapons. I am excited for this!

@RIPPER334

Жыл бұрын

@@lucastonoli3256 You've never paid to produce a failed product have you? 🤣🤣 Cause that's EXACTLY how the market works. Trends may bring something back, but if it didn't fly the first time, it seldom ever sticks the second. And I originally @ the wrong person, sorry.

Great. I needed a dedicated malfunction trainer.

Pro's: If you're a HK r-d collector and wanted a HK G41, this is a choice. It takes AR15 mags and has a last round bolt hold. (I like both these ideas, but if I cared that much about the bolt hold/release, I'd just get an AR-15.) Con's: Cosmetically not as appealing as a HK93/33, and it has the same terrible civilian button only mag release which adds more delay in reloading. (Basically I swear it needs a paddle release for convenience sakes, and him struggling at 2:04 does not inspire confidence with this mag system. It doesn't at least here seem convenient, fast, or smooth.) I guess I'll just have to see how it preforms when it releases.

Жыл бұрын

Agree, still, this is early days. Hopefully they have polished it for release.

@zacharyrollick6169

Жыл бұрын

Many early PTR-91s also lacked the paddle, so I can only assume it will come with time.

@judd5936

Жыл бұрын

You're spot on. They need to get rid of that bolt catch and just let the user use the charging handle to lock and release the bolt. Definitely needs a Paddle release too. Despite that criticism I can't wait for this to be released.

The bolt release alone makes this worth it

@RazicTheHyaena

9 ай бұрын

The stanag compatibility alone makes it worth it.

Apparently Century Arms is going to be importing the 5.56 mke53 and G3 as the Ap6 and AP8. apparently they have some over at their booth can you check it out please

@lucion511

Жыл бұрын

Their AP6 is a Hk33 and Hk33k clone. Not as short as a 53, bur they may do a 53 later

@Steve_MP5

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t see them at the booth but I did ask. They said the same thing the told me last SHOT show. “Soon”

@coledeberadinis7168

Жыл бұрын

@@Steve_MP5 Darn Thanks tho!!

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

@@lucion511 turkey doesn't make the 53, so theres no hope for that.

They should have just gone with an HK53 clone... sigh... would have been waaay cooler and made way more money. Especially in 300 blackout

@KrispyRootbeer

Жыл бұрын

I think they said they'll do those in a year or so

@carlsmith8176

Жыл бұрын

No one would buy that. This actually has a chance of selling

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

@@KrispyRootbeer yeah and they said that 2 years ago

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

@@carlsmith8176 the 53 and 33 are the most requested roller delayed guns out there. its hard because even HK wasn't able to perfect them. alot of people don't want to risk so much R&D for it to be a bad product.

Step aside PSA JAKL and Sig 551. I've got a new one to fantasize over!

Can they make green m-lock handguards to match the PTRs that have green furniture?

I’m half excited. Knowing they won’t release a non-pic rail version for up to a year after launch, truly sucks.

Holy shit! This is awesome!

Will it accept normal trigger packs?

PTR looks like something I would build. lol

@556ChannelHD

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 🤣🤣

I want one of these with can hk53 lengths form and caulking tube and a barrel long enough to mount a bayonet.

When the bean counters vomit on the engineers

Need to fill in gap between trigger guard and magazine well to improve the looks.

what is the weird square thing on the lower?

I think they should change the style of the trigger guard, make it truly south paw usable, and paddle mag release. Other than that, its basically an ar15 with a different charging handle and carrier group 🔥 love it

Should have done the original HK 556

Absolutely zero interest in this gun. Why couldn't they make an HK53 clone. Or a MP5SD clone... Instead they create Frankenstein.

They need to modernize the MP5 (9CT)! CZ magazine compatibility with last round hold! They will own the PCC market!

@hkw8477

Жыл бұрын

@@yodax5613 It's not a question of affordable, I have a healthy inventory of factory HK mags to go with my guns. Cz mags is almost identical in dimension to the mp5 mags with the addition of a channel the runs down the back side of the mag for the bolt catch tab (much like VZ58 mags vs traditional AK mags). This should make it easier to adapt it to the mp5 platform. If PTR was able make their new 63 STANAG compatible, I'd imagine they could give their 9CT a similar treatment. Because CZ mags are cheap and reliable, it would be that much more marketable to the consumer.

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

@@hkw8477 they would have to reverse engineer the 10mm bolt hold open device, which obviously is not needed. airsofters and their bolt hold opens.

The more I look at it the more I like it

That's a badass rifle.

They watched Hops video on modernising the PTR

Wish it had a dust cover and hk33 barrel variant

We need belt feds, c'mon guys. Lets get something to rock those Franklin Armory BFS3 triggers with.

@gsyoung54

Жыл бұрын

Franklin triggers are stupid, just be a man and save up for a pack... maybe don't go for your Dodge Hemi fk shit magnum usless ride.

@BeltFedSelfDefense

Жыл бұрын

@@gsyoung54 no. The NFA must fall, I will not buy into wanting to keep it around because I'm in too much money and suffer the sunken cost fallacy. Binary triggers undercut the reasoning to get a machine gun, and they should. If I want to keep a belt fed with a binary on it, I don't need to be telling ATF every time I leave state with it to train somewhere. Be a man, and quit supporting tyrants.

TOTALLY BADASS!!!😃

Missing the carry handle , bolt close device , ejection port cover , this is more of a hybrid

There’s a market for it but how big can it be? Funny how everything turns into an AR eventually. Like evolution favoring the crab shape. Lol.

Needs a paddle mag release

@boomerisadog3899

Жыл бұрын

Might as well run 5.56 ak or Galil mags then. They would look a bit better but would lose LRBHO and reloads would be slower.

@WeAreSoBackBros

Жыл бұрын

@@boomerisadog3899 only if HK developed a LBHO for their roller guns…. Wait

@arsenal_616

Жыл бұрын

@@boomerisadog3899 Nah, they could still use AR mags. They just need to design a mag release similar to what's on a Tavor or something like that.

Shell deflector for south paws but not a charging handle.

@thermitegrenade

Жыл бұрын

Exactly a left hand charging handle would be easy to do.

When that Mp7 clone coming???

y no collapsing stock?!

ptr thats it wer need more

How did they manage to mess this up!? Make an hk33

nice gun😋

I get it, and its cool, but, i want a 93 clone.

If you keep the stg44 style (hk51 has it, if it is authentic) buffer tube, that the G3 omitted, the handling characteristics are much better, especially in fully automatic assault position.

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

what??

Not crazy about the mag release, but other than that…

Yikes, no thanks. If I wanted an AR, I'd use the ones I already have.

Ah yes the lachman series's

Why the fuck is there so much AR shit on it?! People want guns like this because the AR platform is so generic and everyone has one. Give us the unique characteristics that made these guns so iconic to begin with.

Can they make a 416 clone already 🤷‍♂️

What is that HK slap?

underwhelmed. They could not even make a 223 length receiver

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

because the g41 was a g3 scaled down to 5.56

If it has a lever release for the mag then why not buy it. But even as a left handed plinker, I wouldn't want that ugly release

Is the HK slap only stopping because it’s an empty mag? Would it just go forward on a full mag? That’s how the CZ scorpion pretty much is And if the bolt locks back can you just press the AR bolt release button and ignore the HK slap entirely? Like the scorpion?

@Steve_MP5

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@magnumeagle3176

Жыл бұрын

@@Steve_MP5 Got it, thanks

$1800 rifle that takes AR mags? I will pass. Build my AR for $350!

The gap between the trigger guard and mag is hideous and makes the gun look like 💩

Where is the PSG1

G41 reborn

.300 BLK 63k please.

Something is wrong. I can sense it.

Why couldn't it be a correct G41 instead of "their take" on it, yaaaaay more wonky mutt rifles that'll require at least one warranty call. An actual G41 would've been more appealing.

Get rid of the AR-15 tube and the black guard and slap wooden CETME on it, I'd be happy as hell!

It wonky but I kind of like it. Too bad I’m poor

Just had to make it into something its not. Just remake the original gun and mags with a wielded rail.

That’s a big no for me just make a hk91 clone for 1000$

While this a cool new offering from PTR; I’d rather save up and get the Zenith due to the mags, etc. great video!

@ntb_cheerios2316

Жыл бұрын

While i like the sentiment of mag compatibility, i do agree once you get into more enthusiast stuff then you can start getting away with less practicality. Really excited about the Zenith though

Having to hit the bolt release even after HK Slapping this gun is extremely redundant, a massive No from me

look like an AR clone for me lol :))

THIS is the gun that we all wanted for years! Thank you PTR!

Doesn't need a bolt catch/ release. Locking the bolt to the rear with the charging handle is the bolt catch. You just added an unnecessary step to this manual of arms and took away one of the funnest parts of owning an HK type weapon. The slap. I can't believe I'm quoting ramblin Joe, but Cmon man.

@rustys.1070

Жыл бұрын

they didn't take it away

Pls stop bro no hk enthusiast is buying this 😂

I love my PTR-91 but this thing looks like a massive flop already.

PTR: "how can we make the 5.56 roller gun as uninteresting, ugly, and clunky looking as possible?"

@chatdeblanc

Жыл бұрын

I'd buy it

@pliskenx51mm83

Жыл бұрын

@@chatdeblanc Guns look less ugly if you paint them. Which is what I'll do when I get one. :)

Hell no... No one asked for this, no one wants it.

I swear Brethren Arms did the AR-15 magwell far better, they just made it so that it would work with AR mags but kept the paddle mag release function and it just looked like a regular G3 type mag well but functioned with AR mags... WHY did PTR come up with this cugdule of an idea, nothing about this looks good. That end cap for the stock is terrible, that lower also looks bad and just poorly thought up and don't get me started on the magwell... You guys have been getting so many requests for a 5.56 G3 for years, back when you were making your MP5 clones and this is the best that your company could come up with?

The ar mags are nice, but that rifle is ugly.

Literally THE biggest disappointment of SHOT SHOW, along with nothing from MKE.

Nothing desirable about that

Thats a big no from me. The American gun market should stop trying to turn rifles that aren’t AR-15s, into AR-15s. The main appeal to the hk 53 was that it isn’t an AR.

@DimaSizo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah weak ass hk slap

@TheRealGras

Жыл бұрын

This is more inspired by the G41 not the 53

@Front-Toward-Enemy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealGras I really don’t care . Honestly that makes this even worse.

@ashleycalhoun1824

Жыл бұрын

I think this is really neither to be honest. To me it's like a lot of science fiction firearm, and I think it's a bit inspired. We can still have our classic, low profile rifles, but I also like seeing new things.

@carlsmith8176

Жыл бұрын

Big yes for me. This is a G41, not some Frankenstein creation. People aren’t going to buy guns that take proprietary mags. Simple as

That things ugly . But like the innovation

I hate it.

If the barrel isn't chrome lined or at least nitrided, into the trash it goes with the rest of the PTRs.

The fit and Finish looks cheap/ not complete.

That gun is just ugly 😬

What's the point Nobody (smart) is going buy these for practicality and nobody who wants an OG style 93 is going to buy it because it's super different Missed the mark It disappoints me so much because ptr will run these, sell none and think nobody wants a 556 roller delayed gun despite me wanting one from them forever now. I'd be fine with the stanag magwell if the trigger housing and stock were standard HK roller delayed like the actual hk41 but it doesn't even have that going for it. They didn't even bother designing it with an AR trigger group so that the trigger pull isn't heavier than the rifle itself lol.

Managed to ruin the hk slap. Booooo

Meh

Looks awful