Sometimes the shaper is the perfect tool for the job and set up is easy and straight forward. Other times it's just a bastard to set up and machine. That's why it's nice to have a shaper, vertical mill, horizontal mill and eventually horizontal boring mill. With those machines and a bunch of tooling a guy would almost never be beat no matter what came through the door. Ken

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers Ken . Nearly all bases covered , Need to get the HBM sorted ! 👍

I love being in the shop with gramps learning stuff. If I ever grow up, I want to be like GrandMax.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Lol , Cheers 👍

love the contrast of Olga and the chamfer tool. everything working harmoniously.

@swanvalleymachineshop

11 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Great seeing that chew through the flame cut. I just bought my third clamping set Thanks Max for showing that you have at least five. Now I don't think I'm crazy. I can get more.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

More the better ! Cheers Randy 👍

@hilltopmachineworks2131

15 күн бұрын

I am up to 4 sets myself. 😀

Hi Max, respect to the shaper, but what a pleasure to see you taking the mighty Olga to the dancefloor ! Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Well g'day Max, up at 4.00am with the guts, settling down to watch this, as the sun comes up, thanks for sharing buddy 👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers Ralfy 👍

Even though the shaper didn't pan out, it was really interesting to see the two approaches setting up these parts. Lots of great tricks. Also amazing to see such a massive milling machine table be adjusted so minutely to 'split' the sharpie blueing!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Don't worry Max, Big Olga's got this one...did a super job!🤠

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Love how Max has a way of cutting though the B.S. Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Hi from hurricane ravaged Nacogdoches, Texas. We lost power for only two days. We’re playing in our shop. Beautiful work. Gives me something to try, although not at your quality.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . We do not get the hurricanes like you get over there . 👍

OLGA OLGA OLGA!! Love the shaper, but its out classed. Only by the tooling, that extra long bit was also flexing

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

Great setups and process Max, love those Gudgeon Pins, definitely larger than I worked on in my motorbike days. The Zocca will have to wait a bit lol. Thanks for sharing

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

Hi Max, Olga to the rescue, brilliant setup with the Gudgeon pins. Hear the aircraft in the background, now they are killing long knecked turtles on the runways and taxiways, read it on Perth Now this morning.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . That is sad about the turtles . 👍

Good video Max, always good to see how people approach jobs, for me I still have my double Vee blocks I made in 1979 in the toolroom I worked in as a nipper, I would have used 45/90 as many many jobs have a 90 in them. I get the "content" part with the shaper as I used to plane the crust off a lot of forged IMPAX at 16 on the shaper "to a chalk line" drawn by the foreman lol For me I would have done the big faces "flat" then blocked the 3 big sides off the bed with the face cutter as a pair and clocked then off ground Tee Slot slips we used to tap in the t slot as a guide. Looking fwd to part 3.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . 45/ 90 can be more useful at times , these are mainly for holding larger earthmoving pins . Cheers 👍

I love the fixturing.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers Rob . I will ring you this weekend . 👍

Anther cracking video showing a very old dog new methods (to me) 👍 cheers from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🥃

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Thanks Max!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Thanks for the link for Anchorlube, I've been trying to get some into WA for over 6 months now, with no luck . . . . 8oz pot on the way as we speak ! Ripper. Just gotta remember to be neater about cleaning up after using it, as I believe it discolours machined surfaces pretty badly . . . .

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries . I have not experienced the discolouration yet . 👍

G'day Max. Excellent video on the setting up on the Mill & Shaper. Both machines perform well according to the setups, with good results. I realise you wanted to play with the great refurbished job on the shaper, But .. lol 😆 🤣 😂 While all the setups etc were in Olga, wouldn't it have been quicker & easier to use the Horizontal Spidle to finish the sides ? Great Job Max. Well Done Ted

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Always quicker in the Mill . 👍

olga to the rescue ! cheers ben.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Yes 👍

Was looking forward to this 2nd part & eagerly awaiting part 3. Wouldn’t mind making some V blocks for the Bridgeport myself - but although they might look simple, this is proof that they aren’t & based on recent days results just starting out with the Bridgeport - it’s evident my skill set is a long ways away from doing this kind of work yet. Hopefully some new inserts & torx screws out of Germany might fix my face mill screw up. 🙄😂😉 Lucky it was only a test part. 👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Lol , it happens ! 👍

Great video Max 👍Thank you - Mike in Loving,Texas

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Enjoyed

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks Chuck 👍

Plan A (with the shaper) was a grand plan, but plan B got the job progressed... Thanks to Olga :)

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

Max, your setups are always top notch! I learn a lot from your approaches around the shop. Thanks for the great videos!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

lessons learned thanks Max

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Hi Max, Olga saved the day... Well I'm confident an appropriate shaper job will come along when all is sorted. I'm having good results with Anchorlube thinned about 50% Cheers.....

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers Dean . I will try the thinned Anchorlube . 👍

Thanks for the look and education!

@swanvalleymachineshop

17 күн бұрын

No worries . 👍

*_I have V blocks to make yet myself. Now I know how to do them. The dychem trick was priceless._* 👍👍👍👍👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

@ 23:24 Very fine steel wool 000 grade, hold a match to it and it will burn. I am currently buggering around with some for a fireworks effect😊 and having one myself, beer is. Cheers mate.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

very good job friend Max..thanks for your time

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

OLGA does not care how that steel was cut , Just bring it on , awesome !

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

She will just go until something breaks ! 👍

Thanks Max. A great double-header; double the fun, double the pleasure. Two more beers, and you got another dance with the lovely Olga. Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Nice looking disc's. Have great respect for machines & hydraulic lift cranes with A leaking piston need to be reported .

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

G’Day Max, that last setup was an interesting way of getting symmetry. Glad I saw that! 👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Thanks, Max. Appreciate the ride along.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Great stuff young man .

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

@markfoster6110

18 күн бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop hi have you changed your number?

You got that blend spot bollock on (as we used to say). 🙂

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Indeed, shapers are not ideal to deal with hard spots in the material.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers Rusty 👍

Great job Max, it just goes to show there are more ways of skinning a cat! Love those great big gudgeon pins, they're from a seriously big diesel engine!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Max, I've got a couple questions that came to mind while watching: 1. When you were blending the face mill cuts on the V-surfaces, you did it by trial & error (and got amazing results too!). Would it ever(?) be useful to use a depth gauge/mic to measure the difference between the two surfaces? 2. Did you show the details of the hone set-up on your South Bend? Did you build it or buy it? What "search terms" should we use to find that type of honing disc? 3. This isn't a question, but while Anchorlube is great cutting "fluid," I *think* that someone like Joe Pie recently posted a video showing what happens to steel items if the Anchorlube isn't cleaned off of them after the cutting is complete. Whoever posted that video was clearly unhappy with the, I think, damage caused to the steel parts/tooling.

@swanvalleymachineshop

17 күн бұрын

You could use a depth mic but it would be way too much mucking around to get the same result . You would have to use trig as well . I intended to show the lapping set up , but forgot ! Will put it in the next video . I have had no issues with Anchorlube staining parts , but i will do some more testing on that one . Cheers 👍

Ah, the trials and tribulations of a jobbing machinist/engineer(I share your pain😜)! TBH I think the issues with the hard spots on the cut edge of the material, kinda sums up the issues with shapers(they're handy but limited and slow)😕 - I know you rightly wanted to play with it after renovations(I would too - I've a 14" Ajax shaper that I haven't used in 25yrs of ownership) 😊 IMHO - using flame cut plate wasn't the best choice for precision jig tooling(so many rolled in, geometry and flame cutting(thermally) induced stresses), that the tooling will deform as it ages. - maybe normalising of the material should have been the first process🤔? Good old Elga to the rescue🤗! BTW You don't see many Elga's about(I have an Elga Jig Borer from the 1980's which I'm planning to CNC convert, as it has ball screws on the table axis, and scales already fitted - one of about two hundred other jobs/projects to do)🤪. They're a very good quality machine to have. 👍👍

@davidcat1455

20 күн бұрын

If you’re in Queensland and want to sell the shaper let me know. I’ve been chasing one for 3 years. 👍

@craigywaigy4703

19 күн бұрын

@@davidcat1455 I'd happily sell it to you, but I'm in the Highlands of Scotland!! Cheers. 👍

@davidcat1455

19 күн бұрын

@@craigywaigy4703 Yeah transport might be an issue.😃 It’s a great place, Scotland. I spent a couple of weeks in Pitlochry ,went horseriding above Loch Tay. There was still some snow at our elevation, but you could see people waterskiing on the Loch.😂😂😂

@craigywaigy4703

19 күн бұрын

@@davidcat1455 Aye, shipping might be costly, and the Houthis might sink her enroute!! ;) Pitlochry is very picturesque, hence Balmoral being in that region - That whole lowlands area in and around Perthshire is essentially Scotland's breadbasket... Keep safe and well. .

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

I always use flame cut plate due to cost & convenience . I know it does come with issues though . Cheers 👍

I love fly cutting on my little CNC but yep it's slow.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

Love the deburring tool.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Massive time saver & does a great job . 👍

Part 3 coming soon!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Soon 👍

Looking good Max, I need to make a set for myself in amongst all the other jobs.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

When time permits ! 👍

Thank you Max!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

Bang up job mate , you , Matty's workshop and Cutting Edge Engineering rock all the other channels are shiit

@Paul-FrancisB

20 күн бұрын

Not all of them are CNC & product placement, Josh Topper has a proper job shop, even if Max Matty and Kurtis are the holy trinity from down under 🙂

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . Don't forget David Wilks 👍👍👍

Looking nice!!👍🏻

@markfoster6110

20 күн бұрын

Very spiffy dust coat ! Next will be a bow tie!!

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

And the Bowler hat ! 👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Grate example of a method of work

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Very interesting.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Good morning

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Thx for the vid.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No worries 👍

A chunk of hardwood would do wonders in the vise.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Only for lighter operations . Cheers 👍

The shaper fixturing was interesting, especially using the gudgeon pins for setup, was it me or was the automatic lift kicking in part way though the return stroke?

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

The auto lift is late . You need a fair bit of a longer stroke to fully clear the front . 👍

You need one of those Wire EDM machines from China.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

I know someone up the road that has one ! 👍

@ryebis

18 күн бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop hah! It would've made short work of those vee blocks.

Nice job in the end Have to say Sorry but I would have never attempted that in the Shaper just like the finish of the mill and such over shaper not a big fan of them have no drought they have the place in the shop but wrong choice for this job all good in the end Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Thanks . Have to push the machines boundaries with some jobs to see how it reacts . The face mill is always my preferred option though . 👍

Hello, would you consider hardening and grinding the v-blocks, or would they warp too much?

@swanvalleymachineshop

4 сағат бұрын

My grinder is not running yet . I might just get them nitrated .👍

👍👍😎👍👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍👍👍

Great Video MAX: Do you have a link to that lapping plate you made for the South Bend? I can't seem to find it.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

No , i made it off camera . I just used an old MT 3 boring head adapter & bolted a disc to it with a couple of real earth magnets . Hardest part was when i super glued my fingers to it , would have been hilarious on film ! Cheers 👍

Max,a question if it's okay? To keep the best accuracy on the v blocks will you turn 180 in place or will you turn them 180 and and swap ends with them? Left to right and right to left? Or would it make a difference? Hope I saying things correctly. I liked the blending procedure with the magic marker.

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Turn them 180 , locating off the Vee . The ends are not that important , but i would like them somewhat symmetrical . Cheers 👍

@johnwilleford7715

18 күн бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop thanks Max.

Babushka Olga earned her Vodka you were bit hard on the Brazilian you no what there like down under . Kit from up north

@swanvalleymachineshop

18 күн бұрын

Lol , the shaper may get a second chance with the bases ! 👍

Machining is almost an oxymoron process, the largest machine makes the most precise parts.

@swanvalleymachineshop

4 сағат бұрын

Yes , 👍