Great review Tony, very helpful. 👍

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Perfect timing, I’ve just bought that exact helmet yesterday from Infinity Motorcycles. A great buying experience and a very comfortable snug helmet. Miles better than my original 8 year old GT Air 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Thanks Tony always a trusted source of information.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

You are very welcome

Video says it all Tony. Have a GT Air 2 which is 3 years old, and would definitely replace with the 3. Top product, and top info! Thank you👍

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Cracking review as always. Bravo mate ✌🏻🇦🇺

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Cheers

chin strap that ruroc did get right was the mag Lok chinlock system, I prefure the rachet as well, I have shoie air gt2 but not looking yet, but will keep this video review in mind when I am in he market.

Coming from an GTair2 I was undecided between the Arai Quantic (which I found very comfortable when I tried it on in the shop and also liked more in terms of design) and the GTair3. I wanted a helmet that is homologeted to the newest norm. Chose the GTair3 mainly because of the sun visor. Riding in western continental Europe the light conditions change frequently, also if you ride in and out of forests so it is a very handy feature that, sadyl, Arai doesn’t provide. I find your reviews excellent, thorough yet not boring I really appreciate that you come over very naturally compared to the histrionics of some other youtubers.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, yes they are my two favourite 'touring' helmets, but the drop down visor is very handy as you say.

Very comprehensive. Hadn't thought about the paramedic angle..I guess flip or open face would be even better for them. Ride safe 👍

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

I suspect an open face might be a bit 'messier' for them!

@teneretraveller8980

2 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto fair point!

Great overview/initial impressions review! I’ve had GT-Air (2013) and GT-Air2 (2019) and great experience thus far; will consider the GT-Air3 in that colorway you showed for my next Helmet Refresh later this year! Have you sampled the Neotec3 for comparison? Thanks!

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Keith, I’ve tried one on, but not ridden in one yet

Interesting and informative. I bought one of the last GTAir 1s. Love it but wasn't impressed with the GT2 because of how the inbuilt coms interfered with fitting the Cardo so didn't upgrade. Now the 3 looks easier to fit a Cardo but that visor central lock is now right where I normally run my DJI Action 4 cam. Guess that's a niche problem and I could mount it upside-down??

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Ive just fitted an osmo action 4 on a chin mount and its been ok. I added a short bar to move it out from the helmet a little, but i need that to be able to tilt the camera back to the desired position.

Thanks for this review, I find my Shoei RF-1400 that everyone raves about a bit noisy, air off the bike screan seems to get caught on large top vent the creates turbulence there, adjustment of the screen helps a little but progress past 65 mph and its there annoying me... Maybe this is better...

I've got this one myself, in the Matt black

Hi,, loved the review, do you know where I could find a list of fitting centres? Looked and could only find moto legends so far,, I'm in Somerset. Thanks Paul.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

The current centres are listred here www.shoeiassured.co.uk/shoei-p-f-s-personal-fitting-system and it looks like the closest to you may be Exeter?

cool stuff, thanks

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

No problem!

I thought that I had a problem with closing the visor, but I see that it is a general issue. I noticed that if I close the visor "as much as possible" and then press the visor, from the top above the forehead, it will close correctly.

After always buying Arai RX7 style helmets I bought a GT2 and love it for the street. As it becomes time to replace it good to know about the 3. I assume the new shell meets the newer safety EU standard?

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Yes ECE22.06

Currently using a GT Air 2 with SLR2 comm’s, it’s coming up to 5 years ownership in a few weeks, but I’m not sure I’ll be going with the 3. It’s really resistant to adding alternative comm’s systems and the SLR2 I found to be a bit underpowered, the 3 still doesn’t look that convenient for third party alternatives i.e. Packtalk. The venting on the 2 was average so it’s good to see they’ve improved it although where it matters around the face you say there isn’t much difference? Good to hear to noise levels have improved, and I’ve always rated the visor positioning (stays put), the comfort on the 2 has also been excellent. I need to try one on, but I won’t be replacing until the six year mark (they don’t recommend this) so maybe they’ll be some discounts knocking about by then - good review thanks 👍

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

No problem

Wasn’t bothered by the 3 when I could get the 2 at a good discount🤘🏾

I find the internal sun visor difficult to get out its locked up position. Is there a way to make it easier to move initially?

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

You could maybe try a few drops of the supplied silicone liquid into the visor lever?

Hello Tony. Will you be getting a NEOTEC 3 to test? Silence is my biggest concern, I have no doubt about safety when it comes to Shoei.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

I’d like to, but not sure if I can get hold of one or not?

Great review as always, can you review a carbon helmet at some point please?

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Cheers, what helmet where you thinking of as I’ve reviewed a few carbon lids

@adijgraham

Ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto Apologies I've been off KZread for a couple of months so playing catch-up. What's the best lightweight carbon helmet you have reviewed recently?

It’s frustrating that this helmet isn’t going to be available in the US until 2025 at the earliest. Likely going to have a family member in the UK ship me one. Seems like the perfect helmet for me!

@MrFranplan

9 күн бұрын

US is not the center of the world.

Does the GT-AIR 3's visor seat completely on the seal when fully closed?

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Yes it does

The problem with the visor lock doesn’t go away When I received the helmet the visor was coming down onto the top of the latch and was difficult to secure and unlatch but I thought it was just me not being used to the new system and would be fine once i got used to it. After a few rides it didn’t get any easier and I just had to leave it unlatched, if it did latch it was a right panic to get it cracked open at junctions as it still mists up like my GT air 1 I returned the helmet to the shop and found that the some other examples on the shelf had the visor set to come down in front of the latch and was a very subtle latching action which worked ok with one hand and it would unlatch with a gloved hand. Unfortunately the shop could not adjust my visor enough using the base plates but insisted on returning it to Shoei under warranty which I wasn’t happy about as it arrived defective out of the box. It arrived back and they had appeared to have got it to work so happy days , unfortunately after removing the visor to clean it I found that the visor position had reverted to its original position trying to latch on the top of the latch. I returned to the shop to get them to point out how the visor should be fitted but they confirmed that the visor was correctly fitted and it only fits one way. When we looked through the other GT air 3 on the shelf we found 50% with the latch working correctly but the other 50% were trying to latch on the top which required much more effort to latch / unlatch even with two hands, this isn’t safe messing with a visor when riding ,looks like a design fault , money refunded

@diegosantos9752

Ай бұрын

See the comment above, mine does the same. Sometimes closes flawlessly then won't close at all. If you try to close it and it won't lock just push down on the visor at the forehead and it'll close perfectly again. It's like the new seal around the visor expands and contracts causing the visor to slip out of alignment

I had the same problem with the visor somtimes difficult to clip down I Added some of the shoei lube on the rubber seal and the visor now clicks down easily every time Don't bother with the fitting I had 2 and both made it a worse fit

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Cheers, I’ve already had the fitting

Hi i was wondering if the lens on gtair3 is same with gtair2? Nice review btw!

@diegosantos9752

Ай бұрын

It's not unfortunately

@dadbud09

Ай бұрын

@@diegosantos9752 oh was wondering where we can get lens for the gt air3

@diegosantos9752

Ай бұрын

@@dadbud09 probably contact shoei but it's a different code as is the pinloc insert. When I bought mine the retailer forgot to pack the pinloc and I couldn't buy it anywhere but eventually the retailer admitted their mistake and sent it to me. The visor is the same as the neotec 3

@dadbud09

Ай бұрын

@@diegosantos9752 thanks for the info. :)

@ItsBeenDanBefore

25 күн бұрын

@@diegosantos9752 The Pinlock is the same as the old one but the visor is different between the Neotec and GT

what about using basic sunglasses, prescription glasses. pilot sunglasses?? like raybans? great review though

@mancavemoto

2 күн бұрын

yep, they shouldnt be any problem

i wish they wouldn’t limit their market only to owners of an inferior coms system like Sena though. Seems short sighted for seems like a nice helmet

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

You can still fit another brand of comms unit. I've always found Sena to be pretty decent.

Is the sizing still the same from GT Air 2?

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

yes

My Noetec 2 is 4 years old and I will look for a new helmet next year. Noise is irrelevant as I ride with 35db ear plugs (Moldex Foam), as everyone should be. This GT Air is on my short list...

@marklengal9990

2 ай бұрын

Since you use ear plugs, can you still hear music or coms ? I’ve always wondered why people use ear plugs with the helmet. Something I haven’t tried yet. I’m also considering the NEOTEC 3 or 2. Is noise an issue?

@sebastiaanprins98

2 ай бұрын

I got the neotec 3 recently, coming from an nxr and hornet but I really love it, perfect for commuting and I find it even quieter than those other two (I ride with 26 db earplugs)

@sebastiaanprins98

2 ай бұрын

I use a packtalk edge in it btw and works even better with earplugs I don't leave the house without them, music is much better since you filter the wind etc mostly out

@chsantiago

2 ай бұрын

@@sebastiaanprins98 i don't think ive seen or heard of earplugs available locally in Philippines. What brands are there?

@rizqeenrentals1621

2 ай бұрын

​@@chsantiago3M earplugs should be sold everywhere

Hi Tony, have yesterday picked up the GT Air 3, really comfortable and great clear vision through the visor drop down sun visor, only thing I have an issue with is when I rode with the visor up and drop down sun visor down there was a lot of creaking going on, have you noticed this on yours? Cheers. Paul.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

I haven't had any creaking no, it might need a bit of the silicone Oil on the mechanism?

It’s a top line helmet very comfortable would I buy it again No because of the Ratchet chin strap buckle rubs my Addams apple doesn’t matter how I adjust it they should come out with a choice of DD ring or Ratchet strap.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

On the 3 or the 2? I know they made the strap thinner on the three after feedback from customers

@peterdj1942

2 ай бұрын

Sorry on the GT air 3 still a problem for me shame because other wise a fantastic helmet.

I've had the gt 2 for 4 years and found it a little noisy but I've never had to wear ear plugs so not to bad. Was excited when the gt 3 came out and omg did 200 miles today and had to stop and put buds in. It was soooo noisy. So disappointed and as can't return stuck with it

@mancavemoto

16 күн бұрын

Interesting, I found the opposite

Great review, I think that centre push button type visor opening is bad idea, the old adage of KISS springs to mind, Keep It Simple Stupid.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

I think i have to agree with you. I'm getting used to it, but a simple pull tab would be just as good?

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Not a motovlogger friendly design (the chin), which is a deal breaker for me. Having used Scorpion helmets for some years, I'm not a fan of pinlocks. Scorpion has visors that are treated for antifog, which is vastly superior to using a pinlock. I wish more manufactures would use similar technology.

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

I've fitted a chin mount to this now, and its fine for Motovlogging. i've never had an issue with pinloks that have been installed correctly.

@TheMNB

2 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto extra layers can affect visual clarity as well as trap particles. Unlocks are a primitive hack design for these reasons IMO. You likely had to use several adaptors to work around the chin vents which are additional break and vibration points as well as noisemakers at speed. But it’s not like you have a choice with this and many helmets. The RF1400 is a better motovlogger design IMO, but it still has pin locks.

The chin curtain is a let down, they should have copied the chin curtain from the neotec 3

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Why so?

@diegosantos9752

2 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto when you close all the vents up, air comes up from the perforations. Also I had to jerry rig a wedge to keep it in place as it would come loose on one side when taking the helmet off

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

Ah Ok, I understand, yes I see what you mean.

I've had the Shoei GT Air 2 for four seasons and 24,000km. I don't think the build quality is anything special on that particular helmet to be fair. Some of the material is peeling off. The padding has loosened up a lot (and I almost always wear a balaclava) and the visor lacks rigidity. To be fair I've seen other helmets where the quality in materials is even worse, but considering I actively take care of this helmet, the build quality isn't really anything spectacular.

@liviogermano9257

Ай бұрын

Wich other brand?

@kelvinwilliams6999

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. What leather jacket are you wearing in the video?

I just want to add my experience to maybe help someone. Coming from a GT AIR 2 I planned to buy a GT AIR 3. Long story short, I returned it after 10 minutes only. The sun visor on the GT AIR 3 goes down if you ride with the clear visor open!!! it even lets air in. very bad quality IMO, Also, side note, it actually seemed worse in terms of noise than the gt air 2. So yeah, if you're like me, stay with the GT AIR 2.

@mancavemoto

8 сағат бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, the visor sound. Like an issue to take up with the retailer, no such problems here. Noise is subjective, I had the opposite coming from the 2, but it’s it good you pointed it out as it will vary from rider to rider.

@soeu10

8 сағат бұрын

@@mancavemoto yes indeed. However I did try other gt air 3 helmets on the retailer. It's indeed a "feature" instead of "failure". Also, the sun visor makes rattling noises if you ride with the outer visor open. Quite strange.

@mancavemoto

5 сағат бұрын

Interesting I’ll keep an eye on it 👍