So the message of this video is that it is competitively unviable for Greninja to be black or a woman

@jrodd13

Жыл бұрын

💀

@John_the_Paul

Жыл бұрын

Just like it was in my day -👴🏻

@warnertesla8297

Жыл бұрын

The job has to get done right after all.

@raindown6702

Жыл бұрын

You could probably generalize that statement

@biscuit6924

Жыл бұрын

Underated comment

only a true gigachad used a shiny female greninja

@Yrvo12345

Жыл бұрын

If you are even more chad you use a non-shiny male with torrent to make them think it's battle bond after you use a move

@HabitualThinker

Жыл бұрын

@@Yrvo12345 torrent greninja is so funny

@aerostar1334

Жыл бұрын

​@@Yrvo12345 make them learn that there's a THIRD option.

@ceooforcasupremacy8012

Жыл бұрын

Even harder to get one

@averyadkins9600

Жыл бұрын

I somehow ended up with female shiny greninja in Violet.

someone bringing shiny female torrent greninja : "My goals are beyond your understanding"

@DAMMITKAKAROT

3 ай бұрын

Quoting Pokémon GO Giovanni, I see

@gooddude1128

3 ай бұрын

I’m confused, what does a torrent Greninja do?

@gark1430

3 ай бұрын

​@@gooddude1128 gets a boost in water type attacks when it's reaches 1/3rd of its max hp

@joseycomedy5122

3 ай бұрын

@@gooddude1128it boosts water moves by 50% when at a third of hp

@Kauan176ProBr

18 күн бұрын

​@@gooddude1128torrent is the basic ability every water type starter has and like blaze and overgrow they boost their respective types moves by 50% when the user has 1/3 of its hp or lower

Amazing how you answered almost every possible followup question except for WHY.

@cheetahsmurf

Жыл бұрын

Battle bond was only available on event greninjas, all of which were non-shiny males. Meaning that if your pokemon was a shiny or female, it would never have battle bond, unless hacked in. (Hacked pokemon are of course, not allowed)

@nintndofrk800

Жыл бұрын

I agree, he didn't mention that only the event Greninja had Battle Bond. I wouldn't use the term illegal, maybe more like suboptimal. I'm sure it's possible to win with a shiny/female version

@samarthgautam

Жыл бұрын

you're slow

@__8120

Жыл бұрын

​@@cheetahsmurf ah thank you, wish he had mentioned that

@nightmarexgaming120

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s Ash’s Greninja which is referred to as a male and is non shiny

Chad move: use a shiny female greninja with Torrent.

@micropizza2104

Жыл бұрын

Troll!!!!! Excksdee

@holyelephantmg8838

Жыл бұрын

They switch just to get insta killed cause you used Water Shuriken at 25%

@jamhopsey

Жыл бұрын

BASED

@VlRU7S

Жыл бұрын

Or protean

@TheBenchLord

Жыл бұрын

Never let them know your next move

Uses Shiny Female Torrent Greninja to assert dominance

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

instantly get handed by shedninja

@DoofusLookingThang

Жыл бұрын

​@@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli Just switch to Abomasnow or Sandstorm Garchomp

@theyammi437

Жыл бұрын

Dark Pulse?

@logandelaharpe6362

Жыл бұрын

Sending a frail ghost to fight a dark type genius

@albatros4003

Жыл бұрын

​@@iLoveLoliAndILewdLolidark pulse be like :

This was explained poorly. For those wondering why you couldn't use a female Greninja or a shiny, it's because battle bond Greninja came from an event. That Greninja was only male&Non shiny, so if you had a female Gren then the opponent would know that you didn't have battle bond. It'd also be a hacked pokemon, so y'know, you'd get banned..

@joonas394

Жыл бұрын

It was probably meant to be offensive

@Fax_Teller

Жыл бұрын

This is even worse, it's meant to represent ash greninja in the show male non shiny, and in the special demo it's only a male where the hell did you get the even part from

@-Nightingale

Жыл бұрын

@@Fax_Teller I just called the demo an event. And everything I said is still true, so no. This isn't worse than his non existent explanation.

@greenthi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering where the shiny and female part came in.

@Kyumifun

Жыл бұрын

Because it's Ash's Greninja specifically and Ash's Greninja was male and not shiny. Plus when you recieved it, it even had the same moveset as Ash's Greninja did in the anime

'Split second decisions' as i wait for someone to press an attack because they are burning the clock and trying to get me to rage quit online ranked......

@GhostGuy99

4 ай бұрын

This is literally why I don't play Competitive. Ever. And people still want to convince me that Terastalizing is a good mechanic when I spent most of the game not even using it.

@cephlo4933

4 ай бұрын

@@GhostGuy99 Just because they take their time trying judge what to do next in comparison to having one of the best gimmicks compared to megas and dynamax?

@gamedominatorxennongdm7956

4 ай бұрын

​@@cephlo4933its also an infuriating mechanic that only serves to make already powerful options even better so I don't really see the reason for it being better than say mega evolution.

@cephlo4933

4 ай бұрын

​@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 Because Tera adds in another layer of mind games with virtually every turn it isn't used up, whereas mega's make it so that the power boost is mandatory to have one of the 46 megas (not including Rayquaza nor Mewtwo) on your team. Not only is mega's constrictive due to the amount of pokemon available, but the fact that there are so many undeserved or even useless mega's out there and you're gonna use the best ones anyway. This ends up having very stale/samey teams that use more or less the same meta mega's and pokemon teams. Not only that but you're gonna mega evolve turn 1 the moment you send it out, because there's virtually no point in keeping a weaker mon when you're gonna mega evolve turn 1 (there are very rare and minuscule exceptions where you don't but those are still the niche mons that have it). With tera you can use it on anyone and almost ANY pokemon can have their time to shine and you can have the freedom of choosing WHEN to tera when you always have to mega turn one in comparison. Tera offers offensive and defensive capabilities, the mind game of when to tera and also to gauge what tera type the opponent uses offers way more versatility and freedom compared to mega's and even dynamax. All in all, Tera isn't just a gimmick where it makes already powerful options better there's counter play and even there are occasions where your most powerful mon can be taken down so you'll have to spend tera on another mon other than them or the opponent guessing correctly and taking your tera mon out. Mega's in my opinion are cooler and better executed, but Terastalising gameplay wise is just better, most if not all competitive players agree too.

@cephlo4933

4 ай бұрын

@@GhostGuy99 Also hey I'd like to see you try and convince me that Terastalizing is NOT a good mechanic after seeing my reasons.

If I remember, there is or was a thing in competitive Magic the Gathering where players would run exclusively snow lands (in place of basic lands) even if their deck had no need for snow mana. This was because not playing those lands immediately told your opponent that you weren't running a bunch of nasty cards which require snow mana.

@pokeaimMD

Жыл бұрын

Thats amazing lol

@ShadowLynx777

Жыл бұрын

That's why regular lands are free or at most 10 for $1, while snow lands are $2+ each after they got reprinted. Before that they were around $5 a card.

@stephenborders2883

Жыл бұрын

​@@ShadowLynx777 Most Card Shops I've been to put basic snowlands with regular basics.

@ShadowLynx777

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenborders2883 Well looks like the market for them crashed this past year 😅 they go for 50 cents to $2 now. Yeah the foil unsanctioned lands went from $30 to $2 now.

@stephenborders2883

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowLynx777 Yeah, that's not surprising. I've even full arts and other cool treatments in the basics.

Ash Greninja beat by Mega Zard then Thanos Snapped by Nintendo.

@CoralReaper707

Жыл бұрын

Greninja can't catch a break. I actually feel really bad for him. The way they're disrespecting him is making me sick to my stomach.

@shadowmcphantom

Жыл бұрын

Which zard were u using. Cuz mine destroys bb greninja

@CoralReaper707

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowmcphantom we were talking about the anime for a moment

@deez4480

Жыл бұрын

Rip the form, the ability does technically still exist tho

@arushamshafeeq9428

Жыл бұрын

ash is weak af he couldn't beat a fire type with a water type

I like how greninja won that one popularity poll and their response was to not put it in any gen 8 games, retcon its ash forme in the anime, and then heavily nerf it ingame This really is the top grossing franchise ❤

It's not that shiny or female Greninja was _bad,_ it was just that it telegraphed that you were using Protean. It was still a formidable Pokémon to go up against, even if you knew it didn't have Battle Bond.

@extonjonas6820

Жыл бұрын

It was bad. Though sometimes you could tell based on the team, if you guessed wrong you would be at a huge disadvantage, often from turn 1. You are literally throwing away free advantage by using them

@Unknown_user6969

11 ай бұрын

​@@extonjonas6820 Given the fact that any and all competitively viable team in Sun and moon needs to have answers for both forms of greninja, it wasn't that big of an issue. The loss of the surprise factor hurts a little tho.

Technically Game Freak pulled a racism + sexism card on competitive Greninjas.

@horizon5854

Жыл бұрын

what gender and was ash's greninja shiny? Answer this and tell me it makes sense for a shiny and/or female greninja to have access to battle bond. It was intended to be like how it was in the anime. Deal with it and stop making everything seem like its against how the world is.

@SharkyMcSnarkface

Жыл бұрын

@@horizon5854 Bruh calm down.

@nandapratama4529

Жыл бұрын

@@horizon5854 Chill

@be7256

Жыл бұрын

@@horizon5854 bro missed the joke so hard

@ppp-zi3uu

Жыл бұрын

@@horizon5854 you are literally right wing sjw 💀

This is like in Gen 5 competitive, they started using Haxorus with rivalry specifically to deal more damage to the prominence of the legendary genies, since they were gender locked to be male

@yashbalaji3262

Жыл бұрын

Whoa, that’s so cool

@obiwancannoli1920

Жыл бұрын

Also, funny thing about Keldeo. Both normal Keldeo and Keldeo-Resolute can use Secret Sword, but Keldeo-R has to have Secret Sword while normal Keldeo doesn't. This wasn't really relevant until gen 6, when there was a set that used Focus Blast instead of Secret Sword, so running normal Keldeo was optimal.

I can't belive they added Palafin and gave it an op hero form whilst removing ash greninja which was basically the same thing

@goldenbunny-rc7mr

14 күн бұрын

Greninja skill issue

I always tend to forget how different regular Greninjas look from Ash Greninja

Not only do Black Greninja not have rights to Battle Bond, neither does Female Greninja, like, when did Pokemon get so realistic?

@pokechannel9758

Жыл бұрын

Because the name itself says it is ash's greninja which is male and non-shiny.

@cresenciozachary1011

Жыл бұрын

Because it implies that ash's greninja is male and not shiny

@gabrieldevoogel6225

Жыл бұрын

@@cresenciozachary1011 that’s not implied, pokemon are referred too by their gender and have appropriate differences in the anime (not that Greninja has any), this tells us through the use of “he” and “him” that Ash’s Greninja is indeed male which fits the gender rate as more likely

@gavinrak2692

Жыл бұрын

Why does nobody here get the reference lmao

@lordpvt

Жыл бұрын

​@@gavinrak2692 LMAOO

It’s so messed up too, because shiny greninja is cool. I wish they had non-event versions that weren’t male or normal colored, that you can get via breeding the event pokemon

@pokeaimMD

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I did a greninja showdown live the other day and specifically used shiny greninja cause i havent used shiny ever lol

@Some._.Random._.Person

Жыл бұрын

@@pokeaimMD but why are you not allowed to use the shiny female version??

@toz_lmao

Жыл бұрын

​@@Some._.Random._.Person you are, it's just competitively handicapping yourself

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

"weren't male" wtf

@asa_9469

Жыл бұрын

@@Some._.Random._.Personbattle bond greninja came from an event and it was male and non shiny. this means a female and/or shiny battle bond greninja is not feasible without using some shady sources. in short, a shiny and/or female battle bond greninja is impossible to obtain normally so any battle bond greninja that is either of those two things has to be a hacked pokémon.

In VGC, Ash-Greninja was BANNED for most of the series anyway

Imagine twitter canceling Pokémon because ash-greninja cant be used if greninja is black or female

RIP ash greninja

@rexyjp1237

Жыл бұрын

I hope showdown atleast will put the model on when greninja revealed battle bond in gen 9

@muscularclassrepresentativ5663

Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly malding about that. Like they hate megas so much they won't even bring back the alternate form from the era of megas, damn. At least that's how I see it. I want it all back, I want showdown national Dex: the game

@BlackArche0ps

Жыл бұрын

@@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 i was actually thinking the first part myself

@Cashmoneez

Жыл бұрын

Rip bozo dude was broken

@sentientmustache8360

Жыл бұрын

The only way i see him coming back is if they port the 3DS games to the switch, either that or add the form back with the rumored Kalos DLC

Man the Pixel sprite of Greninja looks kinda Fat not gonna lie.

@emilvalitov7375

Жыл бұрын

Greninja looking very bad today

@Nako3

Жыл бұрын

@@emilvalitov7375 The standing up animation looks funny tho

@Dev_7823

Жыл бұрын

​@@emilvalitov7375 wait what?

@EidaSadista

Жыл бұрын

It's prolly pregñant ( ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

@myleschikuni5944

Жыл бұрын

Yea it got Gen 3-4 Swampert sprite syndrome.

Battle Bond was only ever male and shiny locked. Having a female or a shiny instantly says 'im running protean' because why the hell run Torrent 🤣

@montydoesgames

2 ай бұрын

You run Torrent to remind everyone that Greninja can have Torrent

POV: the one person who keeps catching female shiny greninjas

Happy i can finally use it now without giving up an advantage. Full vid: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4Jkl9JwotutfbQ.html Credit Correction for Ash Greninja Sprite - Actually by Drexsanity: www.deviantart.com/drexsanity/art/Ash-Greninja-Sprite-Animated-Gen-5-Style-946412778

@artisticsmeargel4019

Жыл бұрын

You say it wasn’t allowed which is straight up not the case. It only wasn’t allowed to because ash Greninja could only be obtained legally as a male during the demo of sun and moon check your facts before making a video about

@overkia5958

Жыл бұрын

@@artisticsmeargel4019 So it wasn’t allowed because you could not obtain it legally. Therefore it was not allowed. You didn’t say that anything was wrong with this video

@VenoMantis

Жыл бұрын

@@artisticsmeargel4019 you're kinda weirdposting

@matheweldho9835

11 ай бұрын

Which game is this ??

"Since knowledge is everything in pokemon" Toxapex mains: "ima stop you right there"

@MamaTrixxieAsmr

Жыл бұрын

Toxapex is ridiculous. I'm a poison type user, and,jesus Christ after using it a bit, toxapex can be an absolute wall of a pokemon.

@MrcreeperDXD777

Жыл бұрын

​@@MamaTrixxieAsmr it used to be worse, much worse lmao

@kdczzz3769

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrcreeperDXD777 fr

"knowledge is everything in pokemon" Lemme take my 999 rare candy and make my team be level 100

@EyeWasBored

6 ай бұрын

this is about online competitive battles tho

@Deeogooseslonglostcousin

2 ай бұрын

this is about online competitive

Everyone gangster until someone roles up with a legitimate female shiny Ash-Greninja

@Jigmig

2 ай бұрын

Possible but just hacked

Finally, being shiny affects a Pokemon's viability

@ConnorMcSchrosch

Жыл бұрын

I mean it did in gen 2 as well

@Chino65245

Жыл бұрын

@@ConnorMcSchrosch oh yeah forgot about that

@USSFFRU

Жыл бұрын

Its probably one of the few anyway. Arceus technically counts but its only for the event Arceus with all 3 of the Creation Trio's signature moves.

@Littencito

Жыл бұрын

​@@ConnorMcSchrosch why?

@ConnorMcSchrosch

Жыл бұрын

@@Littencito because shinyness back then was determined by DVs (which are now IVs) which meant shiny pokemon weren't optimal since their stats could never be maxed out

game freak has trouble resisting its hard on for nerfing females and shinies

@bruhmoment8624

Жыл бұрын

Actually there's a strategic advantage to using females with some moves since it's more effective on males

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

​@@bruhmoment8624 attract?

@Idkanymore9029

Жыл бұрын

​@@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli The rivalry ability

@albatros4003

Жыл бұрын

​@@Idkanymore9029Greninja don't have rivalry and rivalry is between 2 males

@SomeSilentSerpent

11 ай бұрын

Rivalry works female vs female and male vs male.

I had watched this short a long time ago, about when it came out. And literally a few minutes ago I was thinking about this exact short, and suddenly it’s in my recommended again, KZread is reading my mind 😅

Torrent Greninja users: My goals are beyond your understanding.

Damn, talk about discrimination in Gen 7

Or you could be an absolute chad and use female shiny Greninja 😎

@syrusgrove8682

Жыл бұрын

With Torrent

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

nah

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

that sht get fck easily

@eye_cancer

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@syrusgrove8682

Жыл бұрын

@@eye_cancer Imagine if someone won a tournament with a female shiny torrent Greninja that would have been hilarious.

Fun fact Ash greninja isn't it's own pokemon It's legit a bond between greninja and his owner, if you were to have it, it would be pokeaimMD greninja

“Knowledge is everything in Pokémon” I thought the speed stat was everything in Pokémon

Same thing with genesect. Genesect can get the move shift gear, but only from a special real life event, of which it was a shiny genesect. Choice scarf is usually what you run on genesect, but shift gear can be a potential surprise option, so if you are playing Pokemon showdown you should run shiny genesect. Also idk what gens this is important for, I know I had to do it for gen 8 doubles.

"Just like old Times..."-👵🏾👴🏻

Bruh the iku - Z (xy japanese theme) in 8bit version is so cool. Im glad that u know this song, it is so cool 🙌💥💥

Red's sprite tho. He be straight chillin, waiting to beat you in a battle.

Run Female Gren with Torrent for the ultimate mixup

Where did you get those sick Gen 5-style Greninja sprites? :o

Hackers probably: let us introduce ourselves

And then there's those of us who have Torrent on our Greninja...

Pls pin this to avoid angry comments! Ash-Greninja is literally a reference to Ash's anime Greninja and he's a boy. Only this specific Greninja can transform because of Ash's aura powers so if you use a Greninja that is easily identifiable as not Ash's (shiny/female) then you reduce the guessing games with your opponent and they can assume your Gren is Protean. Right now, Ash-Greninja isn't legal in online play so it's perfectly fine to use a female/shiny Greninja. I call mine Kunoichi 🌊.

Just like in the good old days - 👴🏻

Never let them know your next move: "Your Female Greninja appears to identify as a Tomboy!"

@MouldMadeMind

11 ай бұрын

Least funny joke you could make.

Love and appreciate the choice of background music for this one

This is hilarious because I just caught a shiny female frogadier which I evolved into Greninja in pokemon X 😂

Am I missing something? How game-changing is having a shiny greninja or female greninja? The other player will know your ability after your first move? What do they give away before the first turn?

@joonas394

Жыл бұрын

Point is Ash-Greninja even in base form cannot legally be Shiny or Female. When send out, you can see gender and color before even attacking. If Greninja is female, it cannot be Battle Bond (Assuming there is no hacking) so it must be Protean or for some reason Torrent (Protean was uber ability and Torrent is trash). In same case if it is Shiny, it cannot have Battle Bond because Battle Bond Greninja is Shiny locked (Again assuming there is no hacking).

@joonas394

Жыл бұрын

Only legal Ash-Greninja was given in Sun/Moon demo version where it was locked to be Non shiny male

@scp-phenomenon014

10 ай бұрын

Idk bro competitive pokemon players are fucking insane lmao They chart out the next 20 possible turns just by looking at your pokemon and guessing the most likely outcomes, so apparently if you give anything away at all regarding ability, it gives them a better chance of hard countering whatever you do next

@raid--er4083

10 ай бұрын

​@@scp-phenomenon014it gets predictable on what your opponent is trying to do, everyone uses like the same 10 pokemon since they tend to be the best of the game. Also it depends on the pokemon are being used too, like for example if a Pokemon is typically used as a tank, you might know what moves that tank pokemon might have to fulfill that role effectively

"Had to guess if your Battle Bond or Protean" Me using Torrent: 🗿

Torrent Greninja: "Am I a joke to you?" And yes. Yes you are.

Bro is stuck in the 1910s 😂

I learned somethin today. Keep up the great work my guy.

that end sprite with Red is epic

That is actually pretty useful in competitive battling, you can guess the opposing Greninja has Protean as its ability if you see it is female or shiny

@syrusgrove8682

Жыл бұрын

or just have a Pokemon with attract on your team to counter Ash Greninja.

Shiny/female is still gonna be bad when home comes out lol

@AffyMoon

Жыл бұрын

Not really lol. New battle bond is kinda eh. It's a once per match +1 to attack, special attack and speed which is capable of setting the scene for a sweep but 90% of the time any mon that counters greninja can just switch in and force Greninja to lose the stat boosts. Unless you try to kill the greninja counter before sending in greninja which limits your team to a 5v1 for most of the match and your opponent can just see through it and not send in the counter too

@ManyTanks1

Жыл бұрын

@@AffyMoon the mind game is still there regardless of the nerfs to protean and bb. Just their now less worth it

@marshadow13

Жыл бұрын

@@AffyMoon please explain how it’s “not really” regardless of what happened to battle bond, there is 0 reason to run shiny/female to give your opp any information. If you don’t care if your opp knows then go for it but there is no reason that I can see on why you would give that information to your opp in the first place

@AffyMoon

Жыл бұрын

@@ManyTanks1 true

@AffyMoon

Жыл бұрын

@@marshadow13 not really as in It's not compulsary like gen 7 anymore since protean is gonna be the standard rather than both being equally terrifying and valid. But it's still optimal for sure

"Just like the old days"👴

it's definitely coming back, Moxie 2.0

I didn't know pokemon was so realistic

Me with a shiny female greninja

And then home comes out and its gonna be the same way for S/V 😢

@keketastic8819

Жыл бұрын

Protean and battle bond were heavily nerfed, plus ash-greninja isn’t in the game yet

@wo-chien-reaction

Жыл бұрын

@@keketastic8819 doubt ash gren is coming. ash got nuked in the anime and battle bond is changed so it gives you stat boosts not a form chang.e

@CantusTropus

Жыл бұрын

@@wo-chien-reaction "Ash got nuked" say what? Explain

@kevintired

Жыл бұрын

@@CantusTropus | they are removing him from the anime

@wo-chien-reaction

Жыл бұрын

@@CantusTropus he left the anime i think, i dont watch it. they removed a lot of things related to him in the games.

Me, bringing torrent Greninja to throw them a curve ball.

“Illegal to be female” DAMN XD

My god these sprites are beautiful… how I wish we had those instead of 3d

@Silancet

Жыл бұрын

Aint no way you think those fatass looking gren sprites look sick

@kittykat1894

Жыл бұрын

@@Silancet I see what you mean but it has a lot of personality and is very stylised Don’t tell me YOU think today’s lifeless stiff sprites and animations look sick

@Silancet

Жыл бұрын

@@kittykat1894 it depends on the mon, some have real good 3d models, others like gengar are ass

@Silancet

Жыл бұрын

@@kittykat1894 but that's beside the point, what i was trying to say is greninja's sprite here in particular looks like ass, i don't dislike gen 5 sprites, it's just this one in particular looks ass to me.

@kittykat1894

Жыл бұрын

@@Silancet well it’s alright then Personally it’s the animation that falls a bit short for me, but the sprite in itself looks great

Bro just explained sexism and racism In pokemon language 💀

@PLAYERPRORAJH

4 ай бұрын

Skull emoji

Imagine you get a perfect iv shiny female froakie but cant use it competitively

I had a shiny female greninja in sun! got her as a reward for commenting in someone's streams a certain amount or something. had them name her "froppy" because I liked my hero academia at the time LOL

so if your team gets countered by either type of greninja make one of your pokemon female and put attract on it is what i'm hearing

Thats a bit racist and misogynist isn't it? Nah, i'm just kidding 😅

"I do not know if the Greninja is Protean or Battle Bond until it attacks." "I run Torrent." "Shut up."

Statement is wrong, I CAN use them, but would be unwise to do so.

Why though. Why is it illigal for Ash's Greninja to be female or shiny?

@youdontneedtoknowmyname3820

8 ай бұрын

I know I am very late but because ash Greninja is supposed to be ash's Greninja from the anime and since ash's Greninja was a male and non shiny that why

bro thought he would drop the best loop and thought we wouldn't notice

Don’t forget the time when a pro player specifically used female greninja to battle against the counter which was often attract

That's absolutely true, i was very active in USUM ou top tiers and seeing a shiny greninja was such a rookie thing to do it would change my way to see the opponent entirely.

So was it illegal cause it was shiny/gender locked? Cause if not, I don't understand what's the issue

@pokeaimMD

Жыл бұрын

yes

Yeah, fuck that. I hunted my Shiny Greninja for hours (3 hours to be exact) and I'm using him.

Finally, tactical sexism

Pokemon Go originally the comunity day shiny was so obvious in Pvp that i decided to power up a non shiny on my main hoping people would foeget the move. I can relate.

wait could you not breed for one? i swear i remember seeing people do that back in the day

@pokeaimMD

Жыл бұрын

Not with battle bond

Ash Greninja is shiny locked and exclusively male because it was given out as an event. U def fumbled the explanation.

I mean, you COULD, but you didn’t want to. Not like it was banned or unobtainable.

The fact that Greninja was competitively viable with two seperate abilities shows how incredible it was

That's why we didn't prefer them - 👴🏻

Anyone wanna inform me on why Ash Greninja wasn't allowed to be female or shiny? Seems like a silly restriction.

@tehrik0020

Жыл бұрын

Battle Bond Greninja is an exclusive Pokémon that is acquired ONCE by completing the Sun and Moon Demo, and is transferable to the actual game. As this Greninja is supposed to be a 1:1 replica of Ash's Greninja from the anime it naturally shares the same gender, non-shiny status and even has Ash as its OT, hence why this restriction.

I miss the VERY early days of Sun and Moon Smogon testing when Battle Bond Greninja was allowed to have whatever Hidden Power you wanted. I messed up so many Kartana with a HP Fire Revenge Killer Greninja, sweeping with the added stats it gave you. All before they fixed it to where you could only have HP Ghost

Extra tip, go for the opposing Pokemon with the most health in a double battle

Cant wait for someone to say “Its pro-tea-an not pro-teen”

game freak is the G.O.A.T

@iLoveLoliAndILewdLoli

Жыл бұрын

they're also a gigachad

Trust me I’m not using a black or woman greninja for my own reasons

You know that Yoda meme that goes, there is another, that meme applies here

You probably explained it in the video but they didn't explain why it was illegal to have a female or shiny Greninja as to why

@CigaretteCrayon

Жыл бұрын

As it was related to a limited-time event, it was shiny-locked and gender-locked for that reason. Ability patches didn't exist in SM, so the same rules that have existed since GenV exist here - the only way to get the Hidden Ability is from a suitable mother. A female Pokémon of Froakie's line that has the ability.

@FrostGlader

Жыл бұрын

@@CigaretteCrayon not TECHNICALLY limited time, you can still obtain Ash Greninja today thanks to the Sun and Moon demo that is still available. But you’re still a little short on the info, Battle Bond Greninja is an alternative form within the game’s code, similar to Own Tempo Rockruff. Battle Bond Greninja is coded to ALWAYS be Male, similarly to how Cosplay Pikachu and Ash Hat Pikachu are coded. Like OT Rockruff, BB Greninja have no visual differences between it and a normal Greninja. Protean is still Greninja’s Hidden Ability, you can’t swap to Battle Bond using any means, so by using a normal male Greninja, you basically make it so it can’t be immediately identified as Protean or Torrent over Battle Bond.

@milamaxwell1731

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@CigaretteCrayon

Жыл бұрын

@@FrostGlader haha I guess knowing about Torrent and Protean isn't enough. I forgot that's how they addressed this ability.

@turkoositerapsidi

Жыл бұрын

Game freak should just make an event where you get female greninja with battle bond.

Man but shiny Greninja is my favorite shiny of all time like what the fu-

I love it when people come up with strategies I would NEVER consider

shiny greninja kinda looks like chainsaw devil from chainsawman just without the chainsaw sticking out of its head

Greninja’s female and shiny variants being banned is basically just racism and sexism simultaneously

@loganrenfrow2544

Жыл бұрын

They aren't banned, just worse competitively since your opponent knows you don't have Battle Bond.

@kioiswaiting

Жыл бұрын

@@loganrenfrow2544 right, meaning that black and female greninja can’t achieve a higher status in the world of Pokémon, only male whi- I mean, non-shinies

@logandelaharpe6362

Жыл бұрын

You mean blue

@youdontneedtoknowmyname3820

8 ай бұрын

​@@kioiswaitingbro didn't watch anime battle bond is a ability only assumable to ash's Greninja and because he was non shiny and male that why

@kioiswaiting

8 ай бұрын

@@youdontneedtoknowmyname3820 1) yes I did 2) its a joke my guy

To be fair, base Greninja and Ash Geninja have a tiny difference in colour at the head. So if you know it, you won't fall for it.

"Ash greninja cannot shiny* Me ; proceeds to delete the shiny greninja with battlebond that managed to get through bank to home

That's rreeeeeaaaaaally cool! I want to see you play using Battle Bond Greninja.