excellent movie.. one of my favorites of all time

@easyaspi1177

3 жыл бұрын

Happy/sad movie. Yes, great!

@paulozanchet1284

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@JJLewis-so1iq

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too. You kind of have to watch the whole movie to really understand this snippet.

Many years ago (25+) I bumped into David Helfgott at an airline check-in queue at Cairns Airport, where I had just spent an idyllic week in FNQ with a friend. He Was walking up and down the queue happily chatting to everyone with his wife while she, was desperately trying to pull him away fearing he was offending people. When he got to me I asked him for a hug which he supplied enthusiastically, and said what an honour it was to meet him. He asked me “Why?”… I could not answer that question, there is no answer.

@chrisking4802

2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar encounter at the Melbourne baggage carousel. It was a sublime experience. He oozes an infectious, uninhibited, gregarious nature. What is there not to love about the purity of his geniune affection for people. Its like all the caution we are taught from an early age has been stripped from his soul . He relates to people the way we would like to, but alas can not.

@rachelcarter6155

Жыл бұрын

OMG, how precious. I would've love that.

@philipboug

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelcarter6155 I assure you Rachel... I did! 🙂

Every time I hear this version, or see the movie, tears are coming up in my eyes. My favorite movie! A friend of me met David Helfgott in the Blue traintrip in South Africa and he is liek in this movie. Hugging everybody he did not know up to then. This scene and the Bumble bee made me learn to listen to Rachm, and appriciate more and more classical music. And Amadeus of course after reading the books about Mozart.

@Coneman3

2 жыл бұрын

I feel similar. It’s a very powerful film.

@odan7564

2 жыл бұрын

Omg me too!❤️

@jconner78

2 жыл бұрын

Every time I see Noah Taylor, I think of this film. He’s aged into a villain (lol) but always think of his amazing performance in Shine whether he’s cutting off Lannister hands or leading the SS

@Amber90125

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@billchancanada

Жыл бұрын

same...i feel the pain the disappointment the eager to please yet never could to his father. The sadness when he plays and the heartfelt song was not just a summary of a lot of parenting issues but so much stress come from within.

2:00 the movie jumps from the beginning of the first movement to the middle of the 3rd movement. 3:16 the movie goes back to the end of the second movement 3:37 the movie jumps to the end of the third movement Obviously they couldn't do the entire concerto, but I'm glad they got most of my favorite parts of the concerto. One of the finest pieces of music ever composed!

@goncalofreitas2094

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information!

@MARTIN201199

3 жыл бұрын

One of the finest, better said, the finest piano concerto ever ever written. As for the finest music, I’d say, and that’s just my view, Rach’s 2 is a better musical composition than Rach’s 3.

@matthewgreeley5389

3 жыл бұрын

I hadn’t realized that till you pointed it out, I guess they figure few people would notice. I’ve seen this performed live twice and I can’t fathom how difficult this must be to learn to play without making mistakes.

@easyaspi1177

3 жыл бұрын

That's show biz, snowflake. Entertainment movies are not ho hum de dumb plodding documentaries. The young man who played the composer should have won an Oscar.

@miguelmartins9706

3 жыл бұрын

@@easyaspi1177 (?)

I was at Forrest High at the same time but never got to know him. He was pretty much a loner, easily identified by his shock of hair and distant look. I saw him many years later at a private concert in Perth and he had changed so much.

My own 2-cent movie analysis: Rachmaninoff's 3rd piano concerto is used extensively throughout this movie as a metaphor for David's mental/emotional state, and other clues are given as well. His professor says "no one's ever been mad enough to attempt the Rach 3" and David asks "am I mad enough professor?" The professer then gives a look as if to say "yes" LOL. He often runs while dropping his sheet music everywhere. He once walked up the stairs with no pants or underwear on. When he performs the cadenza for his teacher at the Royal College, he has trouble sticking with the notes and is scolded. He plays until the piano wire snaps-- a foreshadowing of David "snapping". When he finally performs the concerto we see here, the excerpts are played out of order, again hinting at his chaotic inner mental world. Look at the frenzied camerawork as David plays that crazy scherzo near the end. Finally David falls on stage... again, not LITERALLY happening since there is dead silence, no one in the background and no one rushing to his aid on stage, indicating this is all happening in his head just as the snapping piano wire foreshadowed. Much later after David performs the Flight of The Bumblebee in the tavern and is getting praise, you hear the triumphant arpeggios of Rach 3's 3rd movement playing in the background. Fantastic cinematography! I credit this movie with awakening my love of Rachmaninoff's music, especially this concerto, and classical music in general.

@espuma4219

Ай бұрын

Que maravilloso análisis has escrito y he leído , gracias . Ahora comprendo mejor está magistral película, y entiendo mejor la vida y comportamiento de David .

@throughthoroughthought8064

25 күн бұрын

I expected a 2-cent movie analysis; not a 2-dollar movie analysis.

LimYunChan , the winner of Clibun competition of 2022 led me here. :)

@DavidSmith-ki2we

Жыл бұрын

Me too. I have never seen this movie n I heard pianist Elizabeth Roh talking about this movie during Van Clibun broadcast so I had to see this!

@Jmimi20

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Didn't know about this movie.

Saw Garrick Ohlsson perform this about twenty years ago. He gave a talk before he played and said "I learned this piece when I was younger before I could be afraid of it, and contrary to the movie 'Shine' it will not drive you crazy.... well not anymore than any other concerto". Great movie, greater performance, and greatest piece.

@davoudshojaei7834

2 жыл бұрын

Try this piece and we'll talk, I can totally see someone who is I'll being pushed over the edge by this...

my god this David HelfGott Story is the most chilling if not Historic for the entire music world !!!

@lorishu48103

4 жыл бұрын

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@JJLewis-so1iq

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert on classical music but I agree vfc wholeheartedly

There's so much subtext to this scene. Believe it or not, my dad was even worse than David's, and I can feel all the emotions and rationalizations that have lead David to this very moment moment, to him playing the Rach 3 and his experience through it.

Noah did such a great job in this movie. It’s absolutely heartbreaking.

You have to experience this movie. I watched it back in 1996 (or 1997) at FEST in Belgrade. I cried in the cinema after this scene.

Fell in love with this film and the music especially this piece! 😍😍😍

Big respect. Seven hours a day every day: that isolation alone could drive a mind mad.

The rhytmic frenzy and breakneck pace in which this sequence happens is mesmerizing… makes you feel how David slowly unraveled from this titanic effort. Brilliant direction and acting, all around!! ❤❤❤

I try to convey this scene to people but its nearly impossible. Brilliant way of capturing the moment

@jcmat9917

3 жыл бұрын

The sequence is as emotionally intense as if it were a suspense thriller...

@bernadettecarter8946

2 жыл бұрын

I sympathize with you 😊

This movie still captivates me and to this day there is 3 scenes I think are among the best ever filmed.

What a spectacular performance by Noah Taylor.

@yurdp

Жыл бұрын

I still don’t understand why Geoffrey Rush was nominated (and won) for the Oscar when Noah had so much more screen time and pivotal scenes with this character!

My friend David did this same performance also at 16 years old at Juilliard School in new york. He developed an abnormality of the tendons not long afterwards and it was over....played since age 3 his mother a gifted teacher and pianist herself in north carolina

@betterd9160

3 жыл бұрын

What does he do now?

@toscanoplaster5603

3 жыл бұрын

Teaches piano and kung fu and is a decorative wall finisher

@betterd9160

3 жыл бұрын

@@toscanoplaster5603 that’s good. That’s the key to success....adaptability.

@jcmat9917

3 жыл бұрын

This musical piece is infamous for how it can affect performers...

@horvath9517

3 жыл бұрын

@@betterd9160 He is still doing presentations around the world, he is married and he is happy.

My father played w him in concert when he played w West Australian symphony orchestra

Stunning movie. Stunning performance. Stunning music.

I wish someone would put the scene on YT where he has just given a performance after coming back from 10 years of mental illness and his family visit from Australia without his father who has died. David breaks down in tears as he gets a rapturous round of applause and I find that one of the most moving scenes in any film I have ever seen.

@JustWasted3HoursHere

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know how long this will be on YT, so check it out while you can: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqp3yLCCaJfNkcY.html

@Coneman3

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks.

@JustWasted3HoursHere

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coneman3 No problem.

and when i saw that film, i ask to my mother she is a piano player and she told me thats was real and thats was when she was a college girl, and rigth now, is one of my favourite movie, because i know that is a real story. Tnx :D

@anthonyaustin2166

4 жыл бұрын

Dont you just love those big fat chords...its monumental. Tame it or it will swallow you whole !

@woodywoodlstein9519

4 жыл бұрын

Gerardo Nater its not all real. not sure about this scene but i know that his father was not an Ahole as portrayed here. and that is really the whole context or theme of the film a ton of artistic license here.

@anthonyaustin2166

4 жыл бұрын

Helfgott indeed had a breakdown and ended up in hospital whilst playing the rach 3 ..movies are always glamourised but absolutely there are elements of truth to the movie shine

@wingsofhope3789

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if the whole movie was really portraying his Dad as a complete A’Hole, just a very hurt man from having been in the holocaust!

May we never Faint without getting back up I truly love this video 🎹 ❤ 🕊

@JJLewis-so1iq

2 жыл бұрын

He got back up but he was never the same

i wish i could pray with the same focus and commitment and open heartedness that that bloke plays the piano .some things would happen. still can't help but think Armin Mueller-Stahl is riveting as david's father .if anybody deserved an oscar for support actor he's one

Extraordinaria performance de algo muy díficil!!!

Bellissimo film grande Helffgot ❤

This scene breaks my heart every time

Film meraviglioso , commovente, grandi attori!

I don't know if such a thing exists yet, but if there isn't, I want to invent it. It's a program that plays this complete piano concerto from the pianist's point of view on a virtual realty set. You sit at your digital piano (has to be digital so you can make sure it's off), put the VR set over your face, turn it on and see yourself sitting at the piano with the orchestra to your left, the conductor above you, and the audience to your right. You then follow along with the conductor playing the piece, except even though you're hitting every wrong note on your digital piano, you're playing everything perfectly in the VR program. For those of us who could never, ever play this piece, I think this would be so amazing to have. And then you could buy all sorts of other pieces to play along with. Does this exist yet? If not...come on!

@juneseghni

10 ай бұрын

sign me up!

Scena iconica del film Shine in cui più di uno perde la testa . Dalla bellezza e dalla difficoltà. Uno spaccato inimitabile di umanità.

This compostitions fills me with the same awe that re-listening to rachmaninoffs third … and thats saying something 🙏🏼

I saw the movie Shine. It was wonderful. I felt sorry for the son and what he went through. I can't begin to imagine how difficult it was to have a father who was a tyrant.

@jasonh.8754

10 ай бұрын

There are many men who you would call a tyrant, but have been so twisted by abuse themselves they can no longer express themselves other than as shown in this movie. 3000 years of persecution will do that to a soul. When you 'break' a man, you really do break him; you break his damn soul. No man is a monster but for the damage caused by others.

BEAUTIFUL.¨!!!!!!!!!!

Filme extraordinário!

Giusto pensare ed essere sicuri che questo è l'apice del pianoforte e della musica classica

You tube has so many great players of this; including Rachmaninov himself...I have a classical playlist with Anna Fedorova playing the 3rd and 2nd concertos I like to hear the 3rd first flowing right into the 2nd...They are such important pieces! Unparalleled in my more than a half century of being a musician and music lover...

@nlatimer

28 күн бұрын

It didn't occur to me until the past year that of course we would have recordings of Rachmaninoff playing his own concertos, it's an experience to listen to them.

Perfection

Rush was terrific in this film, but this scene - Father and son - was also extraordinary.

Simple yet highly charming melody in the beginning followed by one the most demanding passages piano repertoire has ever seen.

Capolavoro!

Goosebumps

Brilliant..!!

Still in my top 10 movies.

THE BEST MOVIE I EVER SEEN

David helfgott is so amazing his story and the film has to be one of my favs of all time probs 2nd 1st will always be titanic but this film is more that extraordinary what I would give to learn piano like this and I know I could learn and I want to but I have hyperhidrosis really bad so my hands sweat up to 5 times as much as the normal person all the time so it gets so frustrating I’ve been thinking about getting special gloves or even surgery to get it fixed because it makes my life so much harder

@gustavobiermann7257

2 жыл бұрын

Never give up with your dream keep playing I'm a life long guitarist 43 years old devoted to my instrument and just last year started developing psoriasis in both hands. It won't stop me. Never give up!

el filme, deslumbrante!

Film fantastico ....io adoro ❤️Rachmanino

Bravo 👏 David ❤❤❤❤

How many moments till we are free...

Sublime

Como si te contará de lo que se trata la vida, un vaivén de intensidades con sus lados buenos llenos de calma, alegría, plenitud, momentos en los cuales quisieras el tiempo se detuviera para no dejar de sentir esa felicidad , hasta llegar a sus lados de máyor euforia, estrés, dramatismo que en ocasiones sientes que estas al límite del colapso emocional, pero resurges fortalecido y listo para otro trajín de esto llamado vida

I heard Josh Wright play this concerto - When he was in 8th grade he performed the first movement, and when he was in 9th grade he performed the 3rd movement. It was amazing, I didn't think any 8th/9th grader in the world would be able to play this.

@TheAvkdutch

2 жыл бұрын

Its not hard, maybe you auck

If I remember correctly the name of the guy playing the piano is Shiny McShine.

The opening theme of Rocky #3 is an old drinking song. "I'll have another round, please. And please pass the cheese." Thus, Rocky had a sense of humour. The young man who played the young David should have also won an academy award!!!

My 2nd favorite movie of all time

great film

At 4:14 is where he’s in the zone

@jamestsindos946

3 жыл бұрын

No that’s where he has a stroke

He realized their dreams ....superb

I have seen this film a number of times. I have to say it discussed me the way his father treated this genius. Would you wonder that the poor lad had a nervous breakdown.

Wonder how many piano players went crazy while playing Rachmaninoff.

Rock the fuck out of those drums, Dale!

5:38 fucking brutal. For the horrible noise of him falling dead weight. Shutters to think what was going on in his mind as he hit the plywood. God... It reminds me when my uncle passed out from overthinking and stress. There are times when I feel like passing out, but a stronger angel tells me keep going and don't fall. Otherwise I know I ain't no more good.

METAL

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Noah Taylor went on to cut off Jamie Lannister's hand.

Lord's passion

4:08 my heart stopped, how did they know

All: if you like 3, try 4. His finest, I think, but least known. And for a real surprise, his first symphony, his finest work, after the Symphonic Dances.

@anEyePhil

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree! 4 is just superb. My favourite composer/pianist, Сергей Рахманинов.

I want to see Rocky go into depression over his 1st symphony, then kick ass on the 2nd! Would be a GREAT MOVIE!

I always feel so conflicted about DH. On one hand, I would not wish his early life story on anyone, kids don't need that kind of vicarious living thru of the parents desires for success, the only thing a parent should ever do is love and be the best role model (I know it's a lovely thought and we live in an imperfect world, so will never happen). BUT There is no doubt in my mind at all, his genius with his craft is likely the sum of all the negative stuff. Had DH had these loving, nurturing, role model parents, it's unlikely he would ever gotten to be as good as he is. Genius is often tormented. You don't find people this talented,who are also really well socially adjusted, have what would be considered 'hollywood good looks' and can maintain normal relationships in life. Just like you find that some of the most brilliant writers, composers, etc, were drugged out of their heads most of the time. Usually why their masterpieces took so long to complete ... scattered minds I can relate to 😁

@laraweinberg7635

3 жыл бұрын

Still, it isn't a worthy trade to endure years of abuse and a lifetime of pain for some strokes of genius. And even then, many of the best pianists I know had perfectly wonderful parents.

@Coneman3

3 жыл бұрын

Any genius has to achieve to make a mark. Imagine all those of genius potential who simply never made it because life problems got in their way.

QUEL TALENT ET QUELLE SOUFFRANCE §

I couldn't remember the name of this movie. Now I do.

"No David, you're not going anywhere!"

I wonder if this was filmed in the Wayville Pavilion of the Adelaide Showgrounds?

Two months ago. I saved this. I am not going to lie. If you have to lie to save your own life. Then you lied in your life and death. Be a flower. Wilt. And then wait for the sun to come up again.

DAVID. always win. always win.

The whims of a mad man, we all go a little mad sometimes

guys, i asked a few places more,, i am looking for a movie, remembering a few scenes, a child hides under a piano as his parents got murdered and after years he became a hitman , as he shots people classical music plays in the background. I have dreams about that movie maybe 20-30 years old movie cant remember details but i want to remember.

One of my favourite films of all time but I don’t understand what’s happening at 3:40 the piano notes sound modified.

O pai apenas tinha o desejo de sempre protegê-lo, mas, como pais infelizmente não podemos Só Deus pode!

So what happened to the movie career of this guy? His older version Geoffrey Rush won an Oscar and became a Hollywood staple while he?

@fanitram

2 жыл бұрын

He's name is Noah Taylor, to mention one-he was in charlie and the chocololate factory (2005) as charlies father

@chetdog

2 жыл бұрын

He went onto do vanilla sky.

Under Gielgud’s judgement, I would feel so inadequate.

Yep. Rach’ll do that to ya.

Sounds like a Yamaha clavinova sample to ears. Anyone else agree?

The ossia cadenza was the focus here at 3:14.

2:32 part, where’s in original concert?

@MisterSwanson94

2 жыл бұрын

It near the end of the first movement, after the cadenza ^^

It's that tech support?

@lucyviviansousa3909

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he was in Vanilla Sky

Exelso

gdy dotyka serca muzyka to stajemy sie aniołami ze lzami w duszy

WA and SA and VIC. 1982 to 2023.

Girl power

Everyone who is so incredibly moved by this piece played by Helfgott should listen to Horowitz or Rachmaninoff playing it. There are worlds between them.

why aren't the fingers matching help

If only he had a bottle of electrolyte drink beforehand. I love the movie and this is definitely one of my favorite scenes despite the sad outcome.

3:40

😞😢

lo que siempre me cagó de esta película es que parece un MIDI 😂😂😂😂

@auroradarienzo

3 жыл бұрын

meraviglioso

05:33 me after playing Fortnite for four hours.