So now he defeated Woman version of YHVH, became immortal, and now stuck saving idiots on earth? Truly, The Greatest Doom Guy in Universe

@MournfulSoul

6 жыл бұрын

TrueAegisForm z Louisa is YHVH, I thought she is Lucifer

@chipslight738

6 жыл бұрын

No, he was reffering to Shekinah which is basically a female representation of YHVH, Louisa is still one of Lucifer's form.

@manhphanhoang9555

6 жыл бұрын

True. New neutral end turned him into eternal Doom Guy Now i want a FPS about the protag gunning down Schwarzwelt by himself

@manhphanhoang9555

6 жыл бұрын

TrueAegisForm There is Godmode in SJR ???

@bengarrison6816

6 жыл бұрын

you really can't read huh?

Moral of each new alignment ending: Law: "Creating a world of peace and serenity is hypocritical if you have to commit atrocity to achieve utopia." Chaos: "Freedom, evolution, and the pursuit of strength is a self-destructive path unless tempered alongside compassion and giving everyone the opportunity for growth." Neutral: "The middle path of compromise and balance is fragile and requires constant vigilance and responsibility to maintain mutual peace and freedom, because if you become too complacent it will all become futile in the end."

@Darth_Bateman

3 ай бұрын

True, but at some point his neutrality won’t do and he will have to get involved . Remember , the Schwartzwelt is the earth calling demons of myth that take it over to defend it from humans causing it pain. It took thousands upon thousands of years for the first Scwartzwelt to spawn. This one took a few decades. Things must have become unfathomably bad for that to happen.

@muadibadder3345

Күн бұрын

dis

So the Space Marine is SMT's Doom Slayer now? Also, at this point, the Schwarzwelt repeatedly manifesting is pretty much an inconvenience for him since Demons would pretty much naturally fear the shit out of him. It's like going to the grocery store to buy dinner, but you have to pass a really long traffic to get there and back. This is basically the SMT version of the "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man!" meme.

@austinreed4858

3 жыл бұрын

Mem Aleph and Shekinah: "We love the young people."

@veryexciteddog963

3 жыл бұрын

I'd bet most of them forgot since they already died in the previous iterations, with the exception of specific immortal beings like Shekinah and Mem Aleph. All I know for sure is that this guy is one chadded out man.

@hyde5213

Жыл бұрын

Doomguy, not Doom Slayer. The latter is a pussy who the SJ protagonist would laugh into submission, without any need for a pinata button that makes Bethesdrones soyface.

@moister3727

10 ай бұрын

Basically Doomguy ut he actually has the power of demons at his side

They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you. You will be worse. Rip and tear, until it is done.

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

iskoconquers IT'S DOOM TIME

I like to think both the demons and and angels are now truly scared of the mc with him doing this 7 times and still going.

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Ronnie Meade Angels and Demons: OH FUCK, HERE HE COMES AGAIN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

MC : GTFO, of my way, please

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Howard Thomas well said

@richardliu5339

6 жыл бұрын

Sheiknah: I have returned! Now, to reform the world of Law once again- MC: Hello Sheiknah. Let's get to the point. Sheiknah: ....Fuck.

@solo8324

5 жыл бұрын

"Alrighty, Humanity, this is the last time that you've fucked u--- *WHY ARE YOU HERE!?*"

I just wanna address the mundane horror of this ending. A man of indomitable will sits almost completely alone on the surface of the moon. He sits and watches the world. In his eyes, hours are seconds. His lonely world having the only relief of the ring he was given by an old friend. And so this soldier waits. He is forced to watch the world pass him by, over, and over, and over. And only when the home he can’t even recognize anymore is in danger can he return. Not to be human. But to continue being the monster that strikes fear into the immortal souls of demons and angels alike. Because humanity will never change. It will never become better then it is. They will summon the black hole until the end of their days. But the Man on the Moon will never allow that to happen. Because he has hope that the world will learn from their mistakes. That’s what it means to be human, to hope. To hope that humanity can wake up and be better then they are. And after going through it 7 times, he returns. And he sits. And he waits. And he watches. And he sees the same thing all over again. So… “Do you still feel human?”

@Heartache2491

2 жыл бұрын

This made me sad to read ;-; but it's so good. Hits you in the soul kind of deal

@MrAsaqe

2 жыл бұрын

He made the same choice Zelenin and Jimenez made for themselves when they agreed to become one with the angels and demons and died for it. By taking up this task he accepted his role is to safeguard humanity from either destructive directions rather than leave with all the knowledge lost

@one-wingedangel5107

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, this made me question ME3's control ending that I chose recently (for context, you are given a choice in the ending of Mass Effect 3 if you worked hard enough to unite everybody, control is one of the choices that is the closest equal to the Law ending of a MegaTen game where you sacrifice yourself and basically become god to ensure safety and peace for all eternity). It's a pretty good insight, good job.

@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69

2 жыл бұрын

Roses are red God has been banned "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man!?!"

@giantdad1661

2 жыл бұрын

I'd have said fuck it by the 8th time if they went 150 years without a new iteration for the 7th.

so basically new chaos - the pokemon franchise new neutral - doom new law - brazil

@celkou

2 жыл бұрын

xd

@ruanbritto5955

2 жыл бұрын

Brazil is too much of a hellhole to be anything more than the worst ending

@smtandearthboundsuck8400

2 жыл бұрын

Brazil is smt4 chaos

"Do you still feel human?"

@denkerbosu3551

4 жыл бұрын

That really hit. The implications from Louisa were that he could lose his humanity due to the passage of time. Having the resolve to keep cleaning humanity's mess... In a way, MC had far more determination than Jimenez or Zelenin.

@youraveragesub

3 жыл бұрын

Hitonari: *I dunno you tell me robot*

@night-v5258

3 жыл бұрын

plot twist: Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey 2 Final boss is redux's New Neutral ending protagonist

@nattakarnwaroonhatham6796

3 жыл бұрын

@@night-v5258 Interesting, but Atlus have to made some good reasons behind his choice to become a villain against humanity rather than just "he was protected the earth for so long and his mind just drift away" bs.

@night-v5258

3 жыл бұрын

@@nattakarnwaroonhatham6796 I'm just going with the theory of, as the protagonist sooner or later live for far too long and start to forget his true self and purpose and thus becoming a god-like entity, the Earth by now is destroyed either by the passage of time by the Humans themselves. Now a new civilization is born from scratch, and the protagonist descended to Earth to help out this new civilization, sooner or later he was praised as a god. Date 4000 year or something later, where ppl get technologically advanced again, ppl forgot about god protagonist and depending on how bad the devs make the protagonist feel about this, it's possible to make the protag as a final boss. So basically, strange journey 2 is like a far in the future timeline or something.

This ending was actually sick. The idea of the last true soldier ascending past humanity for the mission was sad and noble.

@Kira22558

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@ApexGale

9 ай бұрын

It's ironic thay we consider it "transcending" when in reality, this choice is the embodiment of what it means to be human. To struggle in vain, understanding that it may not amount to much but has meaning regardless. Humanity, millemia later, is still rotten. But the Space Marine continues to fight for them doggedly, hoping that they will one day change.

@bitui_7039

6 ай бұрын

I think it's one of the better endings. He essentially accepts the idea that no matter what he does, without giving up and losing a core part of what makes humans humans, there's no way to really change the world in a meaningful way. There are good and bad people no matter what, and either can be instruments of evil if they let their beliefs blind and control them. But the one thing you can control is yourself, and the idea of as long as the people that know and understand that, like the reason why the Shwartzvelt came to be in the first place, gives us a reminder of the only thing we do have control over in our lives. As long as the people who understand that and take it to heart have the determination to live with that pain, and more importantly, something to remember and bear that pain (like a loved one or family, or even the memory of it), there is always a reason to fight the good fight. Not to change the world that's much to big for us to do anything in, but to do our part in fighting for the causes we believe in. and since the protagonist's name is literally a japanese pun for "just an ordinary man", it's only right that it's the ordinary man that finds his cause in fighting such a cruel fate. Hands down my favorite ending of pretty much all of the Megaten games

Seventh Schwarzwelt? You'd think after the first 3-4 times of getting slapped around by Doom Guy Mem Aleph would've got the message and fucked off forever.

@2tehnik

3 жыл бұрын

The Schwarzwelt arises because of humanity's sins and the will of the Chaos guys to return the Earth to a more primal state. As long as humanity exists in such a way, why would anything change?

@tendatonda1634

3 жыл бұрын

@@2tehnik of course he won't think that way, we're biased to our species to th point of making us delusional and retarded.

@novelkars835

2 жыл бұрын

@@tendatonda1634 Ironically enough that is a very lawful stance (in a religious sense).

@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Mem Aleph gets replaced by a new one everytime a version is destroyed

The protagonist basically becomes Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen. An all-powerful, never dying being, destined to be the guardian of humanity. He has the most thankless job in all of time and history, and no one will ever know about the sacrifices he made to save the world. Isolated. Alone. Knowing that he has to traverse that shadow maze from now until the end of time. It's really tragic when you think about it. I actually think this is the best of the three new endings.

@EpicMinecraftFail

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think he truly minds, if he wanted to expose him self he could any time he wanted.

@grubkiller7612

5 жыл бұрын

Uhhh you didn't pay attention , the crew of the red Sprite remembers the mc and are thankful to him and Arthur

@raymondyang9976

5 жыл бұрын

It is the best ending of all.

@SyperDT

5 жыл бұрын

@@grubkiller7612 The crew whom have been long dead..... I know I would have gone crazy due to bored by now.

@craftmoon-vas

5 жыл бұрын

​@@SyperDT As it looks like he ascended to godhood or something near that, I think you would have something to deal with boredom or other human problems. Like relativizing time, or entering those monk states where you basically turn off your mind until it's time to do something again. At least that's what I imagine from what I got from that ending.

This is basically like DOOM 64 ending. Doomguy submits himself to Hell, protecting Earth for eternity...

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

But he has Arthur as a Waifu, so he's got company

*schwartzwelt forms* Space marine:How many times do we have to teach you this old lady!!

15:01 “Do you still feel human?” 15:15 “I’ll never stop being human...”

At the end of the day, Neutral endings are stories of hope. Hope and belief in your fellow man. Rather than surrendering your humanity or tossing your fate to the whims of higher powers who could care less about you, you continue to fight and believe in your worth as human beings, for the day that mankind will finally become 'complete' and truly better itself to move beyond these struggles. And even if that day never comes, even if there is no perfect utopia at the end, at the very least mankind will have time to get better step by step, and if they die, they will die free. And it's a long, hard struggle. Humans are temporary. They don't have enough time to learn from their mistakes, and even less time to change the world if they do. Eventually those who are living die and those who come after forget most of the lessons they are taught. But we've made it this far, one step at a time. If even only one thing is retained each generation, that's good enough.

@applesandgrapesfordinner4626

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of us tend to have a dismissive view of humanity, but that is definitely the point. Whether we may die off or not, it isn't about trying to better ourselves. Those flaws will always be there, inherent they are. What matters is how you try to carve your own paradise in an ever-changing world that may try not to

@tokyojuul9987

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like reading a never ending book. What would be the point of a book if it never reached the last page?

@ilikethebluesky101

3 жыл бұрын

@@tokyojuul9987 hmm, instead of thinking of it in a observer perspective, look at it from the humans perspective...their lives are pretty finite and die...thats their book end nothing more, nothing less...the only way you think its a never ending book is because your the observer in this moment and what your seeing is the collective instead of the individual

@apollyonnoctis1291

2 жыл бұрын

TLDR; fug them demons, embrace humanity.

@marcar9marcar972

2 жыл бұрын

@@apollyonnoctis1291 yes

Humanity is stupid, they will always repeat their mistakes. So he decided to at least keep them safe.

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea, keeping in mind how humans behave in this series when given things like Demons.... Like jerks

@tonyknighton4019

5 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean period?

@fakebunny1272

5 жыл бұрын

this is why i never chose neutral im fine with law and chaos but never neutral because solves shit, even if humanity isnt being destroyed doesn't make it a good ending because its clear they are being assholes

@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69

4 жыл бұрын

And judging by Anthony in this game, I think we can safely say we are all worse than the Demons.

@NIHIL_EGO

4 жыл бұрын

​@@fakebunny1272 I don't call "Installing an absolute collectivist dictature" and "Installing an absolute individualist anarchy" solutions.

The marine is incredibly powerful by the end of his 1st mission. Or his Demonica anyway. He relies entirely on his technology and the power of demons to fight (and his strategy, or rather the players). His Demonica contains a huge store of infomation about demons, as well as massive defesive capabilities by this point. He presumably still has his store of items somewhere. Now take all that, and give him a Cosmic Egg on top of it. He's now immortal, doesn't need to eat of sleep, dude literally just standing on the moon chilling so obviously doesn't need oxygen. He's like a god (or more accurately like Gore the UberGestalt), AND he's still got the demonica and all the stuff from before.

@mongodroid4842

4 жыл бұрын

A bit late but that is clearly not his first mission Do you think some random privateer would join the ranks of the best in the world? Also, SJR Intro

@Conkel

4 жыл бұрын

He’s a Meta Human that took on the task of protecting humanity and stopping the Scwarzwelt from consuming the Earth. Axiom speed Space Marine!

@denkerbosu3551

4 жыл бұрын

@@mongodroid4842 OP meant his first mission taking down the Scwarzwelt. Now he was going to do the 7th one.

@Benjamin-ml7sv

2 жыл бұрын

It's basiclly like doing NG+ for the ninth time in a row.

@alwaysangry2232

Жыл бұрын

anime doomslayer

I just realized in New Neutral doomguy basically lives by what Louisa says to Mastema in the chaos ending "Humans, born of god's madness, belong to me, though I hold no love for them, I won't abandon them either, that, is freedom."

14:14 That ring is probably his version of "DO IT FOR HER"

@veryexciteddog963

4 жыл бұрын

His baby we saw in the hologram, that was Alex, right?

@WinterFox1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@veryexciteddog963 yeah, being held by Louisa, her mother.

@veryexciteddog963

4 жыл бұрын

@@WinterFox1000 Crazy how he can still get that demon puss while on the moon. Or maybe it happened while in the Schwartzwelt.

@keicamboom9915

4 жыл бұрын

@@veryexciteddog963 There is a scene where Lucifer passes through MC. This wasn't in the original so that was probably when Alex was created.

@t-universegamer7609

3 жыл бұрын

@@keicamboom9915 maybe, but thats a bit too vague imo

He remains unbroken, for his fight is eternal.

@laka1889

Жыл бұрын

Doom?

@RaytheonThunder

Жыл бұрын

@@laka1889 Yeah, The new true neutral ending was basically a full on mc becoming the Doomguy.

He and Arthur became like Stephen, transcending space and time, fighting for Balance forever... I guess this protagonist is the most powerful of all.

@krisgeno8049

3 жыл бұрын

Stephen is a avatar of the Axiom, although Naoki here turned into a powerful being, it would turn like the battle on SMT IV Apocalypse DLC

@CrimsonFrenchie

3 жыл бұрын

@@krisgeno8049 Actually it isn't implied that Stephen's an avatar of the axiom. Yes he's the most powerful character in MegaTen alongside The Axiom itself, but that doesn't mean he is an avatar of it.

@sock312

3 жыл бұрын

*laughs in Massacre Nanashi*

@tokyojuul9987

3 жыл бұрын

@@krisgeno8049 But he is a part of the Axiom, but independent and separate

@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841

3 жыл бұрын

Aleph,Abel,and Doom Guy are the strongest smt protagonist

It's safe to say this game won't be needing a sequel. It is best to leave Strange Journey as one great game that will be remembered today. Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey is and will be considered a cult masterpiece and one of the greatest games in the Megami Tensei franchise.

@chaosdirge4906

3 жыл бұрын

Considering how everything in the SMT universe connects in a very chaotic way, I wouldn't mind Strange journey getting some kind of sequel. None of the SMT games actually need a sequel, they just kind of happen. After all, I don't think the war between the Axiom and YHVH is ever going to end.

@TheSolBlader

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue even this new edition of SJ was unnecessary because everything about Alex is shit, but Spess Mahreen becoming an immortal guardian of mankind almost makes up for it. Just hope he gets some more screentime in the main numbered SMT games

@josedeleon9273

2 жыл бұрын

I would like to have another smt game set in the schwarzwelt. I really like the setting and the demonica. Of course it wouldn't be a true sequel since most smt games are standalone

@keyos1091

Жыл бұрын

Ya know the director of SJ wants to make a sequel of this... 30th anniversary of SMT...pls come true

@balanceherosmt7170

Жыл бұрын

Yea, this game is a love letter to the og Megami Tensei games and hope there will be a Western setting for a new SMT game

In the end Jiminez and Zelenin is the one who makes him suffer. But i dont blaming them, it is because what they do and did, is just demonstrating that both of them being humans. but MC gave us more of the prove that he is more *human* than both of them

The new ending is interesting. So he is stuck for the rest of his life preventing the Schwartweltz from reforming. Poor guy.

@dadkwashere

6 жыл бұрын

Faizrider not for his whole life, but all eternity.

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Well he is living in the moon

@someguyparagon5273

6 жыл бұрын

Faizrider At leat he is in a better situation than Aleph from SMT 2...

@Yinlock470

6 жыл бұрын

it doesn't seem to bother him that much as long as people like alex can live happily instead of in a demon-infested hellhole he seems okay with it

@mistertaz94

6 жыл бұрын

I mean it doesn't seem like he minds all too much. He's basically become The Dreaded to all demon-kind in this ending and it seems at this point wrecking Schwartzweld is basically the same as his morning exercise routine of just going "OH it's here again. Welp, I should be done in time for dinner."

the seventh Schwarzwelt, 150 years after the last one. Thinking, that humanity lived over 20000 years without one happening you could say that the interval gets drasticly smaler. Humanity really is stupid.

@MrAsaqe

3 жыл бұрын

It's a persistent problem, no matter how hard humanity tries to deny it but as you include more people trying to fix the problem, the chances of making the problem worse increases. Arthur and Doomguy knows it as we see with Jack's crew

It's the best ending to me because he basically become a mix between DOOM Guy and Buddha.

@2tehnik

3 жыл бұрын

Buddha?

@marcar9marcar972

2 жыл бұрын

@@2tehnik I could see it.

@2tehnik

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcar9marcar972 could you elaborate?

this guy impregnated lucifer and then went to fight the schwarzwelt for all of eternity so he didnt have to pay child support

@Bleeperblopper497

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, which part implies that he impregnated Louisa?

@hoy5570

3 жыл бұрын

hehe

@kodymcbride6901

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bleeperblopper497 Alex is his and Lucifer's kid.

@augustocesar5191

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bleeperblopper497 In the first time Louisa appears, in the original they just talk and in the Redux she "fases" through his body and there's a text about him feeling weird(or something like that, i don't remember it exactly)

@Buitronthecrazy

3 жыл бұрын

The first part got retconned when he decided to go into one of the new endings, ergo Alex getting retgone.

This kinda reminds me of that one ending in Record Breaker. But hey, time to start worshipping my boi, the protag.

"Do you still feel human?" I will *never* stop being human.

In the first age In the first battle When the shadows first lengthened One stood He chose the path of perpetual torment In his ravenous hatred he found no peace And with boiling blood he scoured the umbral plains Seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him And those that tasted the bite of his sword named him The *Doom Slayer*

So basically humans didn't learned from their mistakes and are still doing whatever they want with Earth, that could be a bad ending but knowing that Alex and other people like her could be living a normal and decent life is enough for me to be Happy and hopeful about this ending, i really enjoyed the Game and i really think i'm not able to beat the game on the older endings as all i really want is Alex to have a better Life, this Game is sitting among the best RPGs i've played so far

@MrAsaqe

Жыл бұрын

He isn't just stopping the Schwartzwelt from destroying the world. He is keeping them fuck away from reshaping the world conviently

so the SMT equivalent of Doom guy ops to stay behind and watch over the human race till they get their shit together as well as preventing the Schwartzwelt from appearing in the mean time. Oh boy.. is he going to be busy. Have to say though... when I got this ending, damn did I feel sad for the guy.

i just did this ending. Alex being daughter of Lucifer and (probably) Doom Guy was suprising. If Atlus would make part 3 of Strange Journey then it would be Alex trying to change the World ( new Neutral ending ) so SW won't appear anymore. Yea, it could be Lucifer plan to make her do so. And what I'am saying about part 3 is: SJ is part 1 and DSJ is part 2 ( cuz Alex came from the SJ timeline ).

@sebastianmartinez1843

3 жыл бұрын

You Mean SMT 5

@si-level

3 жыл бұрын

@@sebastianmartinez1843 did you read the interview that said ? the team of strange journey will create another game based on space ?

@marcar9marcar972

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly never even thought about the protagonist being Alex’s father but honestly I could see it

@Sextus70

2 жыл бұрын

​@@marcar9marcar972 There is a good chance he was since Alex shares some traits with him (like a similar hair color), and he was likely the only human in that timeline "Louisa Ferre" would respect and in some way admire enough to choose as the father of her offspring.

If this were me I'd get depressed and do something stupid pretty early. The MC is awesome for being able to carry it this far.

@eatanotherzio6811

3 жыл бұрын

Shit Hes Invincible by now He could become a god on Earth if He really wanted to

@2tired2p15

2 жыл бұрын

he probably doesn't spend all his time on the moon, maybe he was just there to watch the schwartzwelt form again

@hyde184

Жыл бұрын

I would probably summon my demons and play tag, hide and seek, or something to just kill boredom lol

Neutral path has always seem to have a rough road ahead.

@RTHbeto27

4 жыл бұрын

Like Gore said we are siding with the weakest faction when choosing neutral

@NIHIL_EGO

4 жыл бұрын

@@RTHbeto27 We don't even have a bunch of crazy cultists like with Law's Order of the Messiah or Chaos' Ring of Gaea ! ...That's not really a bad thing I guess.

@FunneeAlgernon

3 жыл бұрын

That's what it means to be human. Humans are weak as shit. But it's a cause worth fighting for.

I hope he come back in smt5 as hidden bos

@svolozhanin7627

6 жыл бұрын

But did Earth will be doomed if he will die?

@kaimamartina3759

6 жыл бұрын

svolozhanin7 yes because all smt games start near or during the end of the word so it fits

@Orbitthemaster

6 жыл бұрын

I hope SMT 5 bring back the Reason System, each Reason have is own Final Boss and Ultimate Bosses. "Neutral" Reason - Stephen or Nanashi with Flynn (Massacre) "Law" Reason - Space Marine, Jonathan as Merkabah, Aleph (Reincarnated) "Chaos" Reason - Space Marine, Raidou (Chaos DS), Demi-Fiend with Lucifer or The Archangels with Merkabah.

@EpicMinecraftFail

5 жыл бұрын

@@svolozhanin7627 different universe baby!

@denkerbosu3551

4 жыл бұрын

@@Orbitthemaster You should check the video "A REASONable Discussion About Nocturne's Reasons (With Meti NTBG)" They explain how the Reason system can't be used again.

So......he essentially became a member of the meta race? Like stephen and that talking cat from digital devil saga.

@toyguismailov4199

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@dinkcrab2427

3 жыл бұрын

Meta race?

@toyguismailov4199

3 жыл бұрын

@@dinkcrab2427 The i am human,but i am too op to be a member of the weakest race race

@ggez3109

3 жыл бұрын

@@dinkcrab2427 ever wondered how is it possible that stephen went from average man scientist to a freaking DLC boss capable of crossing to other universes? Acording to what I have seen so far the meta race is composed mainly of humans who became powerful enough to be as strong or even superior to some deities, of course this is not the most accurate deffinition but it pretty much sums it up. They become beings that are not affected by the pass of time, are really powerful and tend to serve directly or indirectly to the axiom.

@dinkcrab2427

3 жыл бұрын

@@ggez3109 bad story writing?

If you think about it, this is just like doing New Game Plus runs over and over. But for real, it's a bittersweet fate for the protagonist who chose to fight for eternity for humanity's future until they finally unite and resolve their issues together.

@user-yl1gd3np4g

Жыл бұрын

this ending implies humans aren't resolving anything and are actuality getting worse. It keeps coming back faster and faster.

In the end of the neutral ending. Tatsuya accepted the sacrificed needed to free humanity.

@sebastianmartinez1843

3 жыл бұрын

Persona 2 reference

@joshuaarceo9938

3 жыл бұрын

Tatsuya,Minato,and Doomguy.... The 'We need to sacrifice ourselves for the greater good' gang

@MrAsaqe

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaarceo9938 I mean for Tatsuya and Doomguy they thought they can just beat the bad guy and go home and pretend it won't happen again like the movies where the enemy only has this one big gambit that if beaten stops all future attempt at world domination. In the Redux ending Doomguy realize that he wasn't much different from Zelenin and Jimenez, that he too had the potential for something more and the responsibility behind it. It wasn't like Gore was there to do it on his behalf so by choosing this route he doesn't let either party influence humanity and let humans do their own thing

SEVENTH iteration?! Oh fuck that, humanity...

Why am I thinking "Ai Wo Torimodose" would keep playing every time the MC embarks to destroy the Schwarzvelt?

@applesandgrapesfordinner4626

3 жыл бұрын

It is a manly undertaking

@Sirlanceloth1

2 жыл бұрын

YOU WA SHOCK

Is something stopping him from chilling on earth in the mean time? Or bringing some earth stuff up to the moon. And really 150 years later, nobody has the tech to go to the moon yet?

@arschkinnjunge

3 жыл бұрын

I think he‘s not on the „real“ moon and probably just some sort of place not reachable for humans

@nattakarnwaroonhatham6796

3 жыл бұрын

It's not just 150 years later, it's unknown years later because the Schwartzwelt that shown before the credit is the 7th time and we didn't know the time that 6 other Schwartzwelts took to appeared.

@sonoda944

2 жыл бұрын

I think he prefer moon because if SW is happening at constant cycle, about 900 years have passed since he became the protector of humanity, and what he loved before is probably lost in time long ago. TLDR: He has no belongings for Earth

So he became immortal and spend the rest of his life to prevent schwarzwelt from reborn

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

LAM DINH NHO BUT he's got Arthur, the ultimate robot waifu and Alex's memory, so he won't be (THAT) bored at all

@MournfulSoul

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't say anything about he won't be that bore

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

I know, i just wanted to say it

@someguyparagon5273

6 жыл бұрын

LAM DINH NHO This guy has a better situation than what happened to Aleph from SMT 2...

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Some Guy Paragon yes, aleph was SCREWED UP royally

basically P3's ending but anime doomguy doesn't turn into a door, I'll take it

Naoki the Great Seal...

@sebastianmartinez1843

3 жыл бұрын

He not a Door

The thing I liked about Strange Journey Redux was that it put the series back on track after Apocalypse completely missed the point of the entire series with it's black and white morality. It showed that law and chaos aren't always bad and neutral isn't always good, but rather extremism in any direction is bad. Law is needed to protect the weak and ensure justice. Chaos is the font of creativity and is needed to ensure the law isn't misused. And even though it's usually presented as the best option neutrality can eventually lead to complacency, apathy, and stagnation. It's a moral that's becoming increasingly relevant in this day and age and definitely needs to be said more often. That's why Strange Journey Redux is a masterpiece and IV Apocalypse sucks donkey nuts, Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

@Sextus70

2 жыл бұрын

The Redux endings certainly are way better and more poignant (especially this New Neutral one) than those of Apocalypse, which are either way too edgy (Law, Chaos and Anarchy) or too light-hearted (Friends) to be taken seriously.

@ravaq2334

2 жыл бұрын

Apocalypse just kinda broke the point of morality in general. Break the cycle of law and chaos while throwing away your humanity vs temporary happiness with your friends that will end up in doom anyway.

@Sextus70

2 жыл бұрын

@@ravaq2334 The Anarchy ending, while its execution is too edgy for my taste, at least looks like something belonging to a Mainline SMT game. The Friends one on the other hand is indeed completely out of place. It is like an ending from another game and story that somehow got approved and included in SMT IV:A.

14:58 so from the sixth iteration has been 150 years, if we consider Alex being MC's child, so the second iteration happend about 20 years after the end of the first, i guess humanity has made some progress, with snail's pace, but is still something

Newgame++++++

@TheDeadDXD

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

In SMT universe, there's Schwartzwelt. I guess in Persona universe, the Schwartzwelt got reduced into dark hour. But both MC are fighting a perpetual battle to safeguard the humanity.

Glad to see Arthur is still there.

and thus the doom guy of stm was born.

That's... Really, really sad, actually. Poor MC.

@NIHIL_EGO

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's sad ending. He basically choose to protect humanity from the Schwarzwelt (and itself) as the reason of his existence and become some sort of enlightened Buddha-like post-human.

@MrAsaqe

4 жыл бұрын

@@NIHIL_EGO Or more in line with how he is carrying out Gore's wish on his behalf, if Gore was there to take the responsibility to keeping Schwarzwelt, he would have done so. But of three chosen, he was the only one who realized that neither Jimenez and Zelenin were being reasonable and realizing that this wasn't an one off affair for humanity. So he will take on the mantle of being a meta until one day Alex grows up with the help of the impartial world he protected and come and help her realize her destiny as a Meta under the best circumstances humanity can offer her.

@denkerbosu3551

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrAsaqe "So he will take on the mantle of being a meta until one day Alex grows up with the help of the impartial world he protected and come and help her realize her destiny as a Meta under the best circumstances humanity can offer her. " Its been well over 150 years though... when was she supposed to be born again?

@MrAsaqe

4 жыл бұрын

@@denkerbosu3551 From the look of things. Looks like she was born around the same time of the ending

@hahalery

3 жыл бұрын

@@denkerbosu3551 watch the ending. The ring shows that she was born right when he decided to save earth for the 7th time. It's gonna take a long time but it's not eternity.

The baby at the end was Alex

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

dadkwashere before i said "maybe" I rewatched It and... Yes it's alex, on Louisa Ferre's arms

The most badass ending in a JRPG

The thumbnail looks like the “Always has been” meme

"And those who tasted the bite of his sword, named him, the DOOM Slayer"

Doom - JRPG Edition

Okay. This just makes me want to play the remake more. I wish there was a physical copy nearby! :(

Whenever the protagonist finishes destroying another Schwarzwelt, he comes back, walks to the other side of the moon while carrying Arthur, and has a drink with Rock Volnutt.

"He chose the path of perpetual torment"

just beat SJR tonight and goddamn it was a trip, i aimed for this ending and was pleasantly surprised great game!

Zelanin in the beginning of the game: "Noo, I don't wanna use demons" Demons according to the player on a solo run: "In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood"

Idea for a subtitle for the ending Eternal watchers of humanity

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Think about this: The main character got engaged to Arthur so... Arthur IS THE BEST WAIFU!

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

If you like Zelenin or Jimenez it's fine

@ainzooalgown9952

4 жыл бұрын

are you 12?

In this possible future, the world of strange journey. Unlike other smt games, where the neutral path ends in bittersweet conclusion. Strange Journey ends in a somber note, the world was saved but, at what cost? The end of days will repeat over and over until the cycle continues again and again.

@giahuynguyenkim6389

2 жыл бұрын

SMT IV answer that question.

@javib2978

Жыл бұрын

Strange Journey is canon to itself. Having no relation to smt 1 and 2, nocturne, 4, or 4 apocalypse. It's a what if tale. Kind of like old man logan or batman the dark knight returns. Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey feels more in common with Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now, Attack On Titan, and Kentaro Miura's Berserk all together.

@javib2978

9 ай бұрын

Shin Megami Tensei media in general. Are standalone stories, unless one entry such as Devil Summoner Soul Hackers. That game is a sequel to Devil Summoner and the Raidou Kuzonoha prequel games. An example like that. Much like how Final Fantasy IV did with Final Fantasy IV Interlude, and Final Fantasy IV The After Years. This the standalone anthology idea, did for before the introduction of the Final Fantasy series. Shin Megami Tensei, Atlus's answer and influence to Final Fantasy.

@javib2978

9 ай бұрын

Shin Megami Tensei would be a better crossover with Final Fantasy. Since both series take inspiration from mythology, religion, and reincarnation.

The thumbnail is absolutely *gold.*

This ending surprised me

does anyone know the name of the song that plays at that ending cutscene?

I love this ending.

so he marries arthur?

@CobaltCrane4

6 жыл бұрын

Monstergelo It’s more like he’s stuck with robomom giving him emotional support every time he goes play baseball with the demons.

@horaciohernandez2850

6 жыл бұрын

Arthur best waifu.

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Arthur the BEST companion for eternity

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

Arthur BEST GIRL AND BEST WAIFU

@isauldron4337

6 жыл бұрын

So yes, he got engaged

arthur is more human than jack's squad to be frank

So is Alex Louisa Ferre's Daughter?

@grubkiller7612

3 жыл бұрын

Aka lucifer

Louisa is one of my favorite avatars of the Devil, She’s totally down with you becoming the Guardian of Humanity and is actually proud of you. While also being like okay we’ll have fun don’t go insane and fuck it up

15:45 *cue the BFG Division*

Whats that beautiful song in 13:50!?

@grubkiller7612

5 жыл бұрын

I've been trying to find it ,have u been able to find the track

Is just me or Arthur sound like Dio

@sebastianmartinez1843

3 жыл бұрын

He Same Seiyu And Same He gave the voice of Tatsuya Suou to

The only thing I can't wrap my head around is how Alex's ring stays with the marine. Other than that, this is the best videogame I've ever played.

14:50 7th iteration of the schwarzwelt and 150 years since the last one, jesus, man rlly needs to find a successor for he's role as guardian of humanity down the line, lucky he hasn't snapped yet

Idk if this ending is good... but good lord is it badass

14:00 GOD IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT TRACK FOR A YEAR DOES ANYONE KNOWN ITS NAME OR WHERE I CAN LISTEN TO

@arschkinnjunge

3 жыл бұрын

sadly it‘s not released

@grubkiller7612

3 жыл бұрын

@@arschkinnjunge aw but do you know of the track name or somewhere I can download it

@TERPormf

3 жыл бұрын

Grub Killer unreleased means It has no name and no way of listening to a clean version of it.

@maxpayne3797

3 жыл бұрын

Wish i knew. I've got into the game's files in the hopes of getting the BGM. It's not in the sound folder either. I'm guessing unless we can open a moflex file and get the track, i don't think we're ever gonna get it.

@grubkiller7612

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxpayne3797 I'm killing myself now

Yep this guy is doomguy, no doubt about it

Now I am past the serious part I am coming up with dumb ideas like Doom Guy waving at space cameras every now and then, reminding the humans that he is watching

I saw some people here asking about the unreleased soundtrack at 14:00. It was a bit of a struggle, but I transcribed the music as best I could and recreated it. Hope you have a listen. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGiCuK-RdbineZM.html

What a great game,sjr is like sj2,i cannot wait for sj3 with the return of this doomslayer xD

He should go save p3 protaganist now

Though i had to finish the last 2 bosses on easy because demon fusion nor even passwords helped much, i got this ending. Poor MC

I had a bad feeling that the some of the crewmate doesn't destroy or wipe out the data of their demonica. If they do, schwarzwelt would never resurrected as fast as 7 times. Possibility 1. Human still remain the same so schwarzwelt keep coming back 2. Human is getting cocky after attain the data of the demon and experience of the schwarzwelt and they decide to conquer the unknown place to expand human realm

@MrAsaqe

2 ай бұрын

It isn't humanity changing so much as Schwarzwelt is now a permanent part of Earth's ecosystem now that humanity established contact with the metaphysical and even though the knowledge is "lost" it will still be a tempting path for anyone who wants to reshape earth as they see fit.

Thumbnail gives me "it's always been" vibes

UUUUUGGGGHHHH AHHHHHHH YESSSSS Why am I freaking out? I dunno! This is lit! Probably right under Stephen and the Axiom on a power scale! Also a pretty good spin-off: He gets tired of humans being fools and I know he becomes like a guardian deity to earth but come on seven? Please. he doesn't like kill the world but just stops saving it so new Schwarz welt Warriors appear and you the MC can choose to end the earth for its sins once you learn the truth about "the man on the moon" or rebuild it in the lords ideal state or let a controlled Schwarz welt consume the earth and make a expanse fused earth? Demiurge's universe may come into play? Maybe MC is Alex but I can't see that working so eh. Still Pretty good am I right?

This seems to be a sad choice but this is what the MC should choose. When he attain the immortality which mean you have separated himself with the human society for good, If he return, he will be the next lab rat or perhaps fears the humanity. In order to protect humanity and having immortality it is the best choice to stay alone in moon which in contrast to why some immortal being is living a lone in an isolated place hiddenly. My conclusion is ending is much better than the Law and Chaos end

So his basically doomguy but with almost godlike powers and is practically ageless

@blehindableh

3 жыл бұрын

Soooo... the God emperor of Mankind

@NotThatUser

2 жыл бұрын

@@blehindableh Talos Stormcrown from The Elder Scrolls

@giahuynguyenkim6389

2 жыл бұрын

So Doomslayer?

14:33 "Ah shit, here we go again"

wait a minute if humanity has the power of observation.....isn't it humanities fault why YHVH is a problem? I mean if humanity wasn't so cancerous YHVH would actually be a good person and not someone corrupted. Hell then that means that the demons are humanities fault as well.

@acedianPianist

5 жыл бұрын

YHVH exists independently of observation, being a rogue extension of the Axiom. That's why he was able to use humanity's power as a loophole to retain control over mankind and various universes, without either demons or the Axiom being able to put a dent into him. In the end, it took two human Messiahs sent by the Axiom to clear the path and take YHVH down - and clearly that was still not enough, given SMT V's debut trailer possibly teasing Shekinah as the next cause of trouble in the series. It seems like there will just be rogue limbs of the Axiom for eternity.

@NIHIL_EGO

4 жыл бұрын

The problem is that there's a major flaw in the reality that makes him like that. Plus you have to consider that most of humanity believe in him, and they have different contradictory opinions and views about him, which coincide in paradoxes and logic loophole.

Demi-Fiend is great and all, but when's a Superboss fight against Doomguy gonna happen? Especially if you're a half-demon protagonist, he could see you as a denizen of the Schwarzwelt and attack

This game is the perfection of the perfect game

Does anybody know the song that plays when hes on the moon and walks off

I maybe wrong, because I never played Strange Journey but, don't the protag fight an incarnation of YHVH in one of the endings?

@Dragon-md4gr

10 ай бұрын

YHVH is “dead” (having been ambushed by the mothers and degenerated into the Demiurge). You fight Shekinah, a (seemingly self-proclaimed) avatar of the Great Will instead.

This game took me 100 hours to complete

I need the soundtrack

aww shit, here we go again

Song ?