learn something new every day.. i didn't realise you could set up all 3 switching methods. i thought you only choose one of them. happy days! thanks again Shane.

Once again, you saved me where the Shimano instructions were useless. Thank you so much!!!

THANK YOU FOR THIS TIP!!!! I just got my Giant Propel updated to Di2 and I hunted down this video to set up my Garmin 830 with the D-Fly buttons. Worked like a charm and is way safer than trying to swipe screens with my finger at 35 kph or more. Your tips ROCK!

Thank you! I didn't even know this existed. I've been using synro-shift for the last year and don't use my left shifter buttons. I love that I don't have to have 8 things displayed on my garmin or get out of aero to see all the data I want.

Brilliant video. Was not aware of all of this functionality and how to activate it. Thanks so much Shane. You are a star!

Thanks worked like a charm. You're the best Shane!!!

Thanks Shane! I've just set up my new GRX Di2... can't wait to hit some gravel!

My current favs for press and hold....one side goes to map page the other...to elevation profile. Quite handy!

Thanks Shane. Great, comprehensive content.

Your doing a better job on shimano tech info ...Than the company

@jimhansen5395

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. Shimano should be paying Shane for doing this stuff. Their documentation is pretty terrible...

@appala

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimhansen5395 Documentation and Software both are terrible. I have a mac and no luck with di2 s/w on it!

@appala

3 жыл бұрын

@jo gr 😂

Great tutorial! I have a roadbike with a mahle x20 motor in the rear hub. Mahle has an integration with Garmin edge. With the buttons set up I can now change the assistance level on the fly. Very cool!

always great and simple videos. Thank you Shane

NICELY DONE. SIMPLE TO FOLLOW. THANKS

Thanks to you all things di2 are much clearer!

Great video once again. I love the industry and how they are improving our cockpit

Just for your information Shane... I have the older R6870 Di2 this has no secret buttons on the hoods... but if you set up sequential shifting on the right or left (one button up gear one button down gear) you can use the other buttons on the shifter (that are no longer used to change gear) to control your Garmin screen 👍

Awesome help. Thanks !

All set up, great guidance - thank you! Is it possible to see the weather widget (and others) as part of the secret button settings?

So one way to get DFly ANT+/Bluetooth is to replace the SM-EW90 junction port typically mounted under the stem with a handle bar mounted SC-MT800 or SC-M9051B Di2 Digital Display Unit. The display acts as the junction ports, charging port, battery level and gear display in addition to both ANT+ and Bluetooth communication.

Thank you!

Thanks for your help

Great tip as always... i saw someone made one the of options (either long press or double click) be the zoom/in or zoom/out on the map page. do you know if that is possible?

Wicked Pissah Cool 😁

I have this set up and also have ant+ lights. For me it's a bit of a miss that you can't configure "full beam" and "dipped beam" type config for night road riding. You can cycle modes but that means scrolling through full flash which isn't ideal at night. I guess this would be for Garmin to make this change.

3:02 any way to get this menu to show more options such as 'Missed Notifications'? Would be handy to use a lever button to quickly access missed notifications on the Garmin

Hello Shane, is there anyway to display the DI2 gear combo on Garmin Connect cycling activities like speed, cadence or power? Any connect IQ data field we could install and add to our activity screens to record the data?

Thank you Shane! If it weren't for you and your videos and documentation regarding Shimano Di2 I would've thrown out my Di2 Groupset due to the poor job they do with regards to this (basically no useful info from them IMHO). I really appreciate the effort you are putting into this!👌 Also: which bartape is that on your bike in this video? Like its low key look

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chrisof. The tape is BBB Cycling BHT-14 FlexRibbon Gel Handlebar Tape: amzn.to/2Yzg6pF

Great video👍. I would love to see a similar one with a wahoo device. I have struggled to get mine set up just right.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I'm on the case. Stay tuned. :)

I really want to do this with my 9070 Di2 but I also have to buy the newer gen battery, and it's all getting rather expensive 😥

Hi Shane. I´m trying to get my Forerunner 745 working in the same Way my Edge 530 dose. It´s not possible at the moment i think, the Menu to config the Di2 Buttons is missing on Garmin Watches. Did you ever think about that or did someone ask for it? I startet a Thread in the Garmin Forums, too. I was hoping to switch between Data-Pages on my new watch whithout taking the hands of my handlebars would be possible. (of cause the watch would be in a Garmin-mount on my handlebars, not on my wrist!)

I was really looking forward to being able to do this with a shiny new Ultegra Di2 group set and was let down by the fact that a Forerunner 935 (which I have mounted out front of the bars when cycling) doesn't support dfly channels. Would've been nice to scroll pages and flick through ANT+ light modes.

@PeterPengCHG

5 жыл бұрын

Me too

Hi Shane!! Thanks for your nice video's. I have a Propel with Di2 and bought yesterday also the TCR advanced 0 SL. I love the Di2. I have now also the buttons on top. i was wondering if i can set them for shifting and the garmin? Let's say 1 push for shifting and 2x push for the garmin? Thanks!

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

No. It’s either a Di2 button for gear change or a D-Fly channel button. The latter type not able to change gears.

@giela5737

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your responce. I noticed it. It is set for the garmin now.

Great video. Do you know of a way for the Garmin to record the Di2 gear data whilst riding and then upload that data into Garmin Connect for post ride review? You can see the gear data whilst riding but is it recorded?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Garmin Edge units will record the data, yes. This information isn't used by Garmin Connect that I'm aware of. Services such as di2stats.com/ or axs.sram.com/ will parse FIT files from Garmin devices for Di2 information to display.

Does this work with edge 510 ?

Anybody figure out a way to use the Di2 hood buttons change the power levels on an e-bike? I've contacted Garmin, and they say to contact Shimano who has yet to respond to my emails. I would think it's a Garmin issue since I can go to a screen on my 1030 and change the power level there, but this isn't a choice in the menu to assign functions to the upper buttons.

Is this feature set supported by the Roam? I know the Bolt only pages in the one direction, so I'm curious if this kind of functionality is something Wahoo is considering. Being able to hit lap from the hoods is also such a brilliant idea for intervals, especially when you're flying down a road at speed. Small things like this can push people to one brand over another, I would think.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I’ll do a follow up with the Wahoo units soon.

First you used the a button to shift gears. Can I use the this option and still configure the dubble en hold button option for the garmin?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

No. Once the buttons are assigned a D-Fly channel, they can't do gear changes.

Nice explanation! Is the new garmin530 compatible too?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

Can you make one off those buttons start any rear facing actioncamera?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Not at the moment that I can tell.

Hi Shane! On your handlebar, right of your stem, there’s a Shimano logo and it looks like a switch. Was is it for? And thank you for your channel!

@ihsangin5816

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it’s the “climber” switches for di2. You may want to check Shane’s “install video” for those. In fact, I’d go watch all of his Di2 videos, as one of the other commenters mentioned, Shane does a much better job of demonstrating Di2 stuff than Shimano themselves.

@derkaiser5258

4 жыл бұрын

Correct, its the climber switch SW-R600

I followed your instructions. I have the same group. My edge 1000 just shows "unknown channel" for my buttons. Any ideas?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure. I'd check Edge 1000 firmware (sync via USB with Garmin Express).

Was your back-light set to 'auto'? And if so, wouldn't any button have turned it on?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know, I was skipping through the setup to make sure the video was under 10mins :) Something to check though.

Can I programme it to text my wife to bring me a coffee when I'm on alpe du zwift?

hi~~ ^^ I'd like to ask you a question.... What's the number of the bracket cover model?(st-r8050 )

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

These levers are the 8070 Ultegra hydraulic disc version.

@sinill17

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Wow fast feedbac thx~^~~^~

Could you connect the extra buttons to your phone, so if listening to music the buttons could skip songs? Or perhaps another use on your mobile. E.g press and hold calls someone?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

No. There’s no way to configure this with these buttons.

@noahmiller91

3 жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks Shane! Amazing response time for a 2 year old video. Your channel is awesomez taught me so much about zwift and lots of other cycling tips. I'm watching your Di2 videos as just ordered myself a giant propel with ultegra di2. Very excited! Such luxury!

I use those buttons on the hoods to shift. Lol.

Have you moved back to Garmin from Wahoo? Great vids by the way 👍

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I use them all.

Can you programme one to work with Zwift power ups?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure someone could program that. There's nothing that does this at the moment.

Pity you can't share one of the three options for each button between the control of Di2 and headset functions

Will this be the same for a wahoo Shane?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Similar. I’ll do a follow up video with the Elemnt/Bolt/Roam.

Can you program it to start recording on a cycliq? Or go pro?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@jaysonf356

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks! I hope someday they do as that'd be great

So it isn't included in the box? Do I have to buy it separately?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

The wireless module for Di2 isn't included on most Di2 bike builds.

Can I use those buttons to remotely control the Di2 gears on my buddies bike 😜

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

hahah. No. D-Fly won't change gears.

This bluetooth adapter, where is it? How do I know if I have one? and if I don't have one, where do I buy one?!

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

In your bike (if you have one). If you don't know if you have one, you likely don't have one. Online - Links in the video description.

Nice video Shane. However, the biggest takeaway from this video (for me, at least) is to NOT buy any Garmin device. Even watching someone else struggling with the touch screen is painful enough to not want one. I'll stick to my Wahoo devices and physical buttons ;-)

@mikeprytherch8875

5 жыл бұрын

Benny Cornelissen Want buttons get a 530... it’s called choice, buttons 530 touch screen 830

Steering for veloton indoor cycling?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Any software could make use of these channels. Zwift had Di2 enabled in very early beta, it has been disabled for a few years though.

Trying to set it up on a r8150 version the latest it works like a charm but if you want to control the shifting mode you can not. The only possibility it a through E-TUBE but if you choses “function” instead of dfly your garmin can not recognise it and you will have only the switch mode but not the other two possibilities hold and double click :(

@gplama

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I'll be getting into the new(ish) Di2 soon with my 8170 upgrade.

@Caror007

2 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Maybe it’s due of my two levers that are not up to date. What they didn’t tell me (Canyon) is that levers can not be firmware update trough the wifi E-TUBE app. The only possibility is through a specific cable right to the battery or with that same cable and an adapter to the front or maybe rear derailleur . Just for you to know ;)

does it works the same on the wahoo roam?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Yes: kzread.info/dash/bejne/opt7q7aeYcK1gZM.html

Tried several times - does not work for me 😭. There's no reaction on my Edge 830 when I disconnect the Shimano App. Not sure what I'm missing? Got D-Fly 1 and 2 on the shifters, no problem. But afterwards... nothing.

@gplama

Жыл бұрын

Is the 830 paired to the wireless unit sensor? One for Shimano Support if this isn't working as shown.

@meibing4912

Жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks for the follow-up! Found another guide that suggested using the derailleur button to connect the 830 after have set the shifters to D-Fly first - and it worked.

Is there something similar for Sram and wahoo?

@gplama

6 ай бұрын

SRAM groupsets don't have any D-Fly style auxiliary buttons at this time.

Can you do this with Garmin forerunner 955?

@gplama

5 ай бұрын

No idea sorry. Likely. I don't have a 955.

@oculusquest6703

5 ай бұрын

@@gplamathanks for your response, I’ve managed to connect the two but cannot seem to connect to the d-fly system, only viewing battery and cassette.

@oculusquest6703

5 ай бұрын

@@gplamahave you ever had the shifter buttons work with a Garmin watch?

@gplama

5 ай бұрын

Not something I’ve tried. One for Garmin support.

My first thought was, I like to fly but I don't want to be a modern day fighter pilot. It's just too much for me. But, your's is a channel founded on equipment and tech reviews so that's out of line. My next thought was, laser cannons! I need a set of those hood buttons connected to lasers. Pew, pew, pew-pew...

@allenrosenblum3654

2 жыл бұрын

I’m with you!

Why is it not advisable to update the firmware thru mobile apps?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

It's usually OK these days.

Does this work with wahoo bolt?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. Stay tuned for that video.

Is there something similar like this for Sram?

@gplama

3 ай бұрын

Not at this point.

Also possible with sram Rival?

@gplama

2 ай бұрын

Yes... but you'll need Multi-Clicks or Wireless Blips. The Rival levers don't have hidden buttons like Di2 levers or the new SRAM Red.

I am struggling to connect my garmin 520 edge with the hoods. Has anyone had any problems syncing up?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

You have the wireless module installed and configured?

@craft1868

3 жыл бұрын

@@gplama yes I do - it recognises is on the 520 and I can edit the buttons to perform different actions. But when I go to my main screen it doesn’t scroll through.

@craft1868

3 жыл бұрын

Although di2 is flashing on my connections screen so I assume it sees the di2 but isn’t connected to it?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Do the Di2 battery info and gearing fields show as expected on the 520?

@craft1868

3 жыл бұрын

@@gplama I have the fields ready to use, at first I managed to find the di2 and then connected it, but when the hood buttons didn’t work I removed it and tried reading the di2 to the garmin, now it won’t find it, even when I am trying to wake it up with the gears.

Oooooh, those buttons on the bottom of the Edge look too close to the handlebar indeed! No wonder you'd want to switch to the Di2 instead. I just ordered the Edge 830 and the accessibility of these buttons is a potential problem I am dreading. No Di2 for me and my larger stem mount would not help at all. 😬🤞

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

That’s the non XL mount I’m using. With the XL (the one I use with the 1030) the 830 is further forward of the bars.

@atanasg

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Thanks, good to know. That was my backup plan in case the standard Garmin mount that comes with the 830 is too short.

@atanasg

5 жыл бұрын

For those who are still wondering: My fears were unfounded. I am having absolutely no issues accessing the buttons on the bottom when using the standard Garmin mount that came with the Edge 830. Even with the bulky Hussefelt stem on my bike (www.sram.com/truvativ/products/truvativ-hussefelt-stem).

Is this the better responsiveness of the new edge devices dc rainmaker was taking about? Absolutely horrible and laggy!

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of that was me not tapping the screen correctly due to the angle I was on with the overhead camera. I'll give it a full analysis when I've had more time with it, and I do a video about the 830 itself.

@Horstelin

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama we really owe you guys a lot, the times were manufacturers can just sell you whatever they want are definitely over

@atanasg

5 жыл бұрын

The lag looked tolerable to me but the screen sensitivity seems worrisome. Too many false positives and false negatives in such a short amount of time. Scrolling seems to be the worst offender as it twice registers a false tap instead of a swipe. Doing all this with sweaty fingers on a bouncing unit as you're riding your bike would not make this any easier. Ironically, I went with the 830 over the 530 because of the complaints about the physical back button on the latter. Oh, well, there is no winning here. Looking forward to Shane's full review of the 830 (or the arrival of mine, whichever comes first).

@dwilmer1980

5 жыл бұрын

@@atanasg Please let us know if you like the touchscreen. :)

@atanasg

5 жыл бұрын

@@dwilmer1980 TL;DR: Yes, I do actually! Just got mine yesterday and did my first ride today. Still getting used to the Garmin ecosystem but regarding the screen, here are my impressions: Yes the lag is there. It just does not bother me. The response is slow enough not to get unnoticed (esp. compared to any modern smart phone) but it's also quick enough that it does not seem to be annoying (at least not to me). The touch screen also occasionally misses taps. My experience so far has actually been quite like Shane's in shown in this video. The worst offender seem to be the soft buttons on the bottom. Not so much with swipes. Amazingly, pinch to zoom on the map feels smoother and more responsive (not scrolling though) -- go figure! Again, this happens rarely enough that I am not too bothered by it (yet?). I have not seen any signs of over-sensitivity though (falsely registered unintended taps or swipes) -- I would definitely be less tolerant of those. Haven't tested how it handles wet / sweaty fingers or gloves, yet, so I can't comment on that. My biggest disappointment about the screen (and the unit as a whole) is the freaking fonts -- they look fuzzy. Maybe the underlying screen resolution is too low or the anti-aliasing algorithm Garmin uses is crap but I honestly thought the screen was blurry when it came up for the first time. This felt like a bummer because the biggest reason for my switching from my Wahoo Bolt was that I couldn't quite make out the small letters in the navigation instructions on the Bolt. Today's ride squashed my apprehensions though. The Edge shows the navigation instructions on the top of the screen in large enough letters that I had no problem reading them. Also the slightly larger screen and colored display make up for the lack of crispiness. The brightness on auto was also great. Basically, I had no struggles seeing what's on Edge's screen. So I am keeping it :) YMMV, HTH

left button for turbo, right button for eat my dust turbo

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

and Zwift power-ups!

I'm gutted that my Garmin Edge 130 isn't compatible with Di2!

Don't you need a mic for Alexa?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

.....?

First pin dis!

Yes I confirm don’t try update on Bluetooth : I have tried this week and it crashes. Because I have a Mac only it was difficult then to find a pc to terminate the update. Then it still didn’t work and no shifting but because battery was drain because of the fail update. After 3 days I was able to ride my bike again : nightmare this software by Shimano

@FoyeTroute

5 жыл бұрын

Wifi needs to be turned off on your phone/tablet for Di2 firmware updates.

@damFr

5 жыл бұрын

Foye Troute WiFi and Bluetooth are not using the same frequency in MegaHertz. So no interference possible between WiFi and Bluetooth. It won’t change nothing to turn WiFi off unless Shimano put a bug in its software. But you could turn off Apple Watch if you have it and uses Bluetooth for less interference !

0:50 From personal experience 'proceed with caution = do not do this, ever.

@FoyeTroute

5 жыл бұрын

Wifi MUST be turned off on your phone/tablet for firmware updates. If it's left on, that's what crashes the update.

I'm on my 3rd D-Fly and 2nd battery. The thing just eats power and has reduced battery life from about 6 months to about 3 days.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Update your firmware over mobile, bricking the Di2 system, problem solved! :) (Wasn't there some battery drain fw fix a while back?)

@rhysrunsriot

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplamaGPLama it's on the latest firmware actually, still hasn't solved it.

@JeffreyGordonTheTank

5 жыл бұрын

Also very very important, if you connect to it via the etube app on the iphone, make sure you disconnect it when done. The iphone will maintain the connection and can kill the di2 battery in a matter of hours! Do this before a ride, drive an hour to trail and find a dead battery.

@rhysrunsriot

5 жыл бұрын

@@JeffreyGordonTheTankGordon yup, always disconnect it. But I had the problem on a previous D-Fly unit, before Bluetooth was available. It's even been into a Shimano dealer and they said it was fine. The only thing they changed was moving the D-Fly unit from between the rear derailleur and stuck it in the bottom bracket. Which was tidier, but didn't solve the battery drain issue.

@ryant75

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry old thread but I'm having same issues. Was the battery drain ever resolved? Thank you