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@DBB65 Жыл бұрын
Nice research and clues, thank you! Dealing with Zed voltage on a STEPS battery, trying to figure out a repair or bin and replacement
@ManiacInTheShed Жыл бұрын
Brilliant diddorol iawn, Nadolig Llawen.
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Diolch yn fawr. Nadolig llawen i chi hefyd.
@pgr0074 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Weird dat shimano manage battery level in cells like this as the bms is the weakest link which we cannot replace ourselves.
@MACAVENTURES Жыл бұрын
re 😊 c'est quoi ce composant jaune 🤔 merci
@oklmi11 ай бұрын
Wow ! Hocus pocus 🥳
@mt-ni6vmАй бұрын
Great video! If the cells dies out, would it be possible to change them out, or would that be a hassle as I could see several flat cables from the original BMS wired to the cells?
@makeitwork7522
Ай бұрын
It could be done I suppose. The balance points could be re-wired onto the BMS if one breaks on the ribbon cable. I suspect it would also be a major hassle to remove the original cells from the holder too ! Also factor in the possibility of the BMS totally locking up if voltage is removed from it.
@jasonbliss9717 Жыл бұрын
Awesome fix. Did you have to modify much to fit the bms inside. Thanks
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished it yet (hence the part 1 in the title). Hopefully , I can fit the BMS somewhere. Look out for the part 2 ............
@ChSanjorgiano Жыл бұрын
Hi I'm having exactly the same issue with my battery. It's from a Carrera bike and I'm tempted to use same solution. I have some doubts about using this method, as I can see you're removing the aftermarket BMS and closing the battery without it. For few uses will be okay but on long term, due to small chemical differences in cells internal resistance you'll end up with different voltages through the pack and nothing to balance them out. Does your bike work with the aftermarket BMS so the original can be removed? That would be the best I believe Thanks for tinkering with that!
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I didn't remove the extra BMS (it's there permanently).It should,as far as any BMS can,keep the cells balanced. But the original BMS has to stay because it needs to communicate with the controller. The extra BMS is for charging purposes only.
@3NkO1 Жыл бұрын
Can u give me a link or models for the extra bms wich u putted or any extra info that gonna help us and the tiny chip too
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
It's an ordinary 10S BMS. You can find them on ebay etc. Which "tiny chip" do you mean ? The fuse ? I bypassed the fuse.
@caffeine93342 ай бұрын
HI, thanks for posting.. can you tell me what the cell voltage is at cutoff at full charge.. 3.2V to 4.2V ?
@makeitwork7522
2 ай бұрын
Each cell group will be at 4.1 - 4.2 volts when fully charged.
@Loco499loco10 ай бұрын
Hello my shimano Akku shows only first green led light and 5th led light. What could it be ? I can not loading …
@makeitwork7522
10 ай бұрын
The gauge on this one that I repaired didn't work,so I don't know. Sounds like an error code.
@reconmastersАй бұрын
Hi iv got the same issue with my battery what would you charge to repair it if I post it out to you thanks
@makeitwork7522
Ай бұрын
I would need the whole bike to test a Shimano battery. That's not very practical given our respective locations. But I have a spare battery for you to try if you're interested. If you want,send me an email - garethem1@sky.com
@wilj71 Жыл бұрын
Helo, joban da. Ma geni shimano steps batri e6010 goliadau yn dod on ar y batri yndangos yn llawn ond dim ond. 0.2v ar y terminals. Charjar hefo gola melyn. Dwi yn stumped... Ti meddwl fysa fix yma yn gweithio i batri fi. Oh ti yn gogledd cymru?
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Rhyfadd fod y bateri yn dangos yn llawn, ond dim ar y connector. Llanllechid, ger Bangor
@wilj71
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 dwi yn llanrug, fyddai mynd metal detectio yn Llanllechid caeau Kevin. Ryfadd ma beic wedi bod ar charge am tua pump awr yn y ty, ac mae batri newi dechra flasho ar yr ail ola ac y chargar tn flasho ar y amber. Ella fydd o wedi clirio y fault.
@wilj71
Жыл бұрын
Gen ti fanci gael lwc ar batri fi ddoi a fo fyny i ti? Os na ffor i gael gafael arna ti?
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@wilj71 garethem1@sky.com
@ibrahimalic7725 Жыл бұрын
Will it also work without the communication cables? Had many bikes where a communication wire was installed but it was not used at all. Enjoy the kebab👍🏽
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I very much doubt if the system would work without the communication . If this was my bike,I would try it;but it's for a customer. Thanks for the suggestion,and looking forward to a proper kebab .............
@elpatron6801
10 ай бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 probably it give either e020 or e023 on it
@justthatbloke4 ай бұрын
I have exactly the same battery with the same problem , could you fix it? I think I’m local to you, judging by the phone number on the estate agent sign at the end of the video :)
@makeitwork7522
4 ай бұрын
I'm near Bangor , North Wales. Do you want to send me an email ? garethem1@sky.com
@richizzlelajara94947 ай бұрын
Can the female charging port be ordered and replaced?
@makeitwork7522
7 ай бұрын
I can't see any for sale online. It's extremely doubtful that Shimano would sell spare parts for their batteries. You would probably have to replace it with a different 4 pin connector (rated for 30 amps for positive & negative power leads). And change the charger connector to suit. Good luck ...........
@thediscoman2001 Жыл бұрын
where did u get the boost charger
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Ebay
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 HAVE u a link to it
@MACAVENTURES Жыл бұрын
et quel informations sort des fils jaune et bleu
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Probably digital information (packet data ?)
@MACAVENTURES Жыл бұрын
Bonjour cette vidéo m'intéresse particulièrement, malheureusement je comprends pas la langue et du coup difficile de comprendre C'est exactement ce que je souhaite faire passer par un autre BMS pour pouvoir recharger avec un MPPT BOOST et comment tromper le système de communication entre le moteur et la batterie et très intéressant est-il possible de m'aider Merci 👍
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately , I don't know how to deceive the communication system. In the video , the communication wires (blue and yellow) stay connected to the BMS. If not connected , the system probably would not work.
@MACAVENTURES
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 OK merci de répondre 👍 Cela veut dire que si j'ajoute un BMS pour la recharge sans toucher à celui d'origine ça devrait fonctionner puisque mes batteries sont en bonne état, c'est ce que j'ai fait avec une batterie bosch qui elle est plus facile à tromper avec juste un ajout de 5v sur le négatif général et la troisième borne du port de décharge
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@MACAVENTURES Exactly. Remember to bypass the positive on the original BMS too (Red wire). And don't forget a 20 or 30 amp fuse. Thanks for the tip about the Bosch ............ Which battery was that ??
@MACAVENTURES
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 OK merci mais je vois pas comment Souder le fusible et où trouver le fusible 🤔
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@MACAVENTURES It's in the second part of this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGqA2a-hepzVhaw.html&ab_channel=makeitwork The fuse is shown at 7 minutes 50 seconds in this video. It's a 14 amp polyfuse (re settable fuse). Search for them on ebay.
@giovanniracca28664 ай бұрын
carissimo amico ai rimosso la parte importante del inizio e la fine del smontaggio del pacco batteria grazie mille ma per me e poco utile se non riesco a estrarre il pacco dal suo involucro buona serata.
@makeitwork7522
4 ай бұрын
I show at the beginning the 4 screws holding the end cap to the main case. 2 screws under the small caps.
@jamesarondelapaz4494 Жыл бұрын
How can i remove the power on switch
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
If you remove the switch and gauge unit,it may not work again.
@jamesarondelapaz4494
Жыл бұрын
Or how can i connect the wire to the on off switch
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesarondelapaz4494 Which wire ?
@gabrielamazonia4427 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to assemble two batteries that I have here if it works I'll send you a kebab😀
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you.
@l1u1c1k Жыл бұрын
What creepy hands
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
It's fortunate you can't see the rest of me.........
Пікірлер: 57
Nice research and clues, thank you! Dealing with Zed voltage on a STEPS battery, trying to figure out a repair or bin and replacement
Brilliant diddorol iawn, Nadolig Llawen.
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Diolch yn fawr. Nadolig llawen i chi hefyd.
Thanks for the video. Weird dat shimano manage battery level in cells like this as the bms is the weakest link which we cannot replace ourselves.
re 😊 c'est quoi ce composant jaune 🤔 merci
Wow ! Hocus pocus 🥳
Great video! If the cells dies out, would it be possible to change them out, or would that be a hassle as I could see several flat cables from the original BMS wired to the cells?
@makeitwork7522
Ай бұрын
It could be done I suppose. The balance points could be re-wired onto the BMS if one breaks on the ribbon cable. I suspect it would also be a major hassle to remove the original cells from the holder too ! Also factor in the possibility of the BMS totally locking up if voltage is removed from it.
Awesome fix. Did you have to modify much to fit the bms inside. Thanks
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished it yet (hence the part 1 in the title). Hopefully , I can fit the BMS somewhere. Look out for the part 2 ............
Hi I'm having exactly the same issue with my battery. It's from a Carrera bike and I'm tempted to use same solution. I have some doubts about using this method, as I can see you're removing the aftermarket BMS and closing the battery without it. For few uses will be okay but on long term, due to small chemical differences in cells internal resistance you'll end up with different voltages through the pack and nothing to balance them out. Does your bike work with the aftermarket BMS so the original can be removed? That would be the best I believe Thanks for tinkering with that!
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I didn't remove the extra BMS (it's there permanently).It should,as far as any BMS can,keep the cells balanced. But the original BMS has to stay because it needs to communicate with the controller. The extra BMS is for charging purposes only.
Can u give me a link or models for the extra bms wich u putted or any extra info that gonna help us and the tiny chip too
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
It's an ordinary 10S BMS. You can find them on ebay etc. Which "tiny chip" do you mean ? The fuse ? I bypassed the fuse.
HI, thanks for posting.. can you tell me what the cell voltage is at cutoff at full charge.. 3.2V to 4.2V ?
@makeitwork7522
2 ай бұрын
Each cell group will be at 4.1 - 4.2 volts when fully charged.
Hello my shimano Akku shows only first green led light and 5th led light. What could it be ? I can not loading …
@makeitwork7522
10 ай бұрын
The gauge on this one that I repaired didn't work,so I don't know. Sounds like an error code.
Hi iv got the same issue with my battery what would you charge to repair it if I post it out to you thanks
@makeitwork7522
Ай бұрын
I would need the whole bike to test a Shimano battery. That's not very practical given our respective locations. But I have a spare battery for you to try if you're interested. If you want,send me an email - garethem1@sky.com
Helo, joban da. Ma geni shimano steps batri e6010 goliadau yn dod on ar y batri yndangos yn llawn ond dim ond. 0.2v ar y terminals. Charjar hefo gola melyn. Dwi yn stumped... Ti meddwl fysa fix yma yn gweithio i batri fi. Oh ti yn gogledd cymru?
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Rhyfadd fod y bateri yn dangos yn llawn, ond dim ar y connector. Llanllechid, ger Bangor
@wilj71
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 dwi yn llanrug, fyddai mynd metal detectio yn Llanllechid caeau Kevin. Ryfadd ma beic wedi bod ar charge am tua pump awr yn y ty, ac mae batri newi dechra flasho ar yr ail ola ac y chargar tn flasho ar y amber. Ella fydd o wedi clirio y fault.
@wilj71
Жыл бұрын
Gen ti fanci gael lwc ar batri fi ddoi a fo fyny i ti? Os na ffor i gael gafael arna ti?
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@wilj71 garethem1@sky.com
Will it also work without the communication cables? Had many bikes where a communication wire was installed but it was not used at all. Enjoy the kebab👍🏽
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
I very much doubt if the system would work without the communication . If this was my bike,I would try it;but it's for a customer. Thanks for the suggestion,and looking forward to a proper kebab .............
@elpatron6801
10 ай бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 probably it give either e020 or e023 on it
I have exactly the same battery with the same problem , could you fix it? I think I’m local to you, judging by the phone number on the estate agent sign at the end of the video :)
@makeitwork7522
4 ай бұрын
I'm near Bangor , North Wales. Do you want to send me an email ? garethem1@sky.com
Can the female charging port be ordered and replaced?
@makeitwork7522
7 ай бұрын
I can't see any for sale online. It's extremely doubtful that Shimano would sell spare parts for their batteries. You would probably have to replace it with a different 4 pin connector (rated for 30 amps for positive & negative power leads). And change the charger connector to suit. Good luck ...........
where did u get the boost charger
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Ebay
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 HAVE u a link to it
et quel informations sort des fils jaune et bleu
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Probably digital information (packet data ?)
Bonjour cette vidéo m'intéresse particulièrement, malheureusement je comprends pas la langue et du coup difficile de comprendre C'est exactement ce que je souhaite faire passer par un autre BMS pour pouvoir recharger avec un MPPT BOOST et comment tromper le système de communication entre le moteur et la batterie et très intéressant est-il possible de m'aider Merci 👍
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately , I don't know how to deceive the communication system. In the video , the communication wires (blue and yellow) stay connected to the BMS. If not connected , the system probably would not work.
@MACAVENTURES
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 OK merci de répondre 👍 Cela veut dire que si j'ajoute un BMS pour la recharge sans toucher à celui d'origine ça devrait fonctionner puisque mes batteries sont en bonne état, c'est ce que j'ai fait avec une batterie bosch qui elle est plus facile à tromper avec juste un ajout de 5v sur le négatif général et la troisième borne du port de décharge
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@MACAVENTURES Exactly. Remember to bypass the positive on the original BMS too (Red wire). And don't forget a 20 or 30 amp fuse. Thanks for the tip about the Bosch ............ Which battery was that ??
@MACAVENTURES
Жыл бұрын
@@makeitwork7522 OK merci mais je vois pas comment Souder le fusible et où trouver le fusible 🤔
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@MACAVENTURES It's in the second part of this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGqA2a-hepzVhaw.html&ab_channel=makeitwork The fuse is shown at 7 minutes 50 seconds in this video. It's a 14 amp polyfuse (re settable fuse). Search for them on ebay.
carissimo amico ai rimosso la parte importante del inizio e la fine del smontaggio del pacco batteria grazie mille ma per me e poco utile se non riesco a estrarre il pacco dal suo involucro buona serata.
@makeitwork7522
4 ай бұрын
I show at the beginning the 4 screws holding the end cap to the main case. 2 screws under the small caps.
How can i remove the power on switch
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
If you remove the switch and gauge unit,it may not work again.
@jamesarondelapaz4494
Жыл бұрын
Or how can i connect the wire to the on off switch
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesarondelapaz4494 Which wire ?
I'm going to assemble two batteries that I have here if it works I'll send you a kebab😀
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you.
What creepy hands
@makeitwork7522
Жыл бұрын
It's fortunate you can't see the rest of me.........