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@ddel5240

2 жыл бұрын

I only managed to get 1000 miles on my ‘21 this season, but they were totally trouble free. The super precise steering is what sets it apart. The jetting chart is horrible rich not just a bit, and worse, the optional needles that it comes with are too rich as well unless you are riding sea level/cold weather. The KYB suspension is awesome but can get a bit harsh in square edged stuff. I had mine revalved and it is pure magic now, and it only cost a few hundred, not thousands like an Austrian bike.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

If I bought one I reckon I'd insist the dealer get the jetting right for me... I hate fiddling with stuff like that lol. Is lighter fork oil an option for the forks?

@mnovinger

2 жыл бұрын

The bars were ok..I just found to put hand guards on the bracket hit the clutch master cylinder..

Ridden my sherco 4 times love it after come off the kx 450 no comparison and not riding for 19 years im loving it at 57 years old 👍🏾👍❤️❤️❤️

Currently at 99.5 hours on my 2021 300SE. I broke the chain guide 2 hours into my first ride but since then I have not had to replace anything other than tires and rear brake pads. The plastics not lining up is annoying and the air filter is a bit finicky to install. Overall this is the best and most fun bike I have ever owned or ridden. The torque is amazing, handling is great as well as the suspension. The electronic power valve gives it a super smooth and predictable power delivery, you will see the KTM brands switch to the electronic PV soon as well. Get one while you can, they will be going to FI in the next few model years.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

Well said and my thoughts also. Personally I'm keen for efi on the brand. I've been personally assured at Factory level that there will be the Delivery Tune, but also the tune for actually riding the bike in the real world 👌 I'm after a 2T that I can treat like a 4T, just put fuel and oil in it and press start no matter the conditions 😊

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Any idea if they'll go directly to TBI? It sounds as though KTM and TM are heading that way which should solve the doughy bottom end power... allegedly.

@PNWEnduro

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I would think so. It’s reported KTM will be TBI for 2023. I believe the TM is already TBI for 2022.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro Not sure what system they will employ. Several years ago, Sherco had a prototype bike out in the wild and there were photos floating around, it looked to have the injectors on the barrel at the transfer ports. However, it will be very easy for them to just install the SEF throttle body onto the reed block and use that 👍 One benefit of that is you don't need oil injection as the fuel arrives into the crankcase as before via the reed block, so they could still run premix. 👍 In point of fact, some Risk Rodent guy may just be fiddling around such a system right now.....

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

That rodent fellow is certainly averse to risk, old chap. Very typical of the species massa rodentia.

I always have been on Ktm and went to sherco in September and I already have 79.0 hrs on it 22 300 2T factory and I’ll never switch to any other brand! It’s my favorite bike I’ve ever ridden!

Nicely done! Great to see Tim Coleman back to his old self!!!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

This was Tim pre-injury but he has started his stunt riding again recently. 😁

Personally I'm a fan of the carb, the looks, KYB suspension & cooling fan. They're not exactly abundant in my region yet. Good review.

I have about 350 hours on my SE300Factory 2019 with one piston change and now after opening the motor, all bearings are still good! Had issue with coil and rectifier, but after those fixed bike has been running and starting perfect. Very good bike as you describe and reliable engine. This one will stay by me another 350h after rebuild 👍🏻

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Great news! Yeah I'm glad they have updated the coil, ECU and rectifier etc. I was a bit wary of looking at a Sherco until they'd resolved those issues. Definitely looking like a contender now though!

Really love my 2021 300SE Factory. Just some added some armor to it, replaced to low stock bar with a CR high bend ProTaper, and resprung the suspension for my weight. I have been impressed with the bike for sure. Recommend it Barry.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear. I am leaning toward the Sherco. It sounds as though I'll definitley need some bar risers.

2022 Sherco 300 SE Factory owner! I’ve ridden and owned Japanese brands and KTM’s my whole life. I bought a 2022 Sherco 300 this year and have put about 15hrs on it so far. I absolutely love the bike! The motor is amazing and just seems to always find traction no matter the situation! Suspension is great and the jetting is an easy fix from climate to climate. The only dislikes I had were the stock pegs and handlebars. Stock pegs are completely flat with no upward camber like all other bikes have. I got used to them after some time but still not my favorite and the mounting position felt a little high. I put a new set of handlebars and a set of S3 pegs that are 5mm down and 5mm back and it made the bike feel like home! I plan to be a sherco owner for the foreseeable future!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! If I go French I would probably fit some Fastway pegs that move down and back. I do this on pretty every bike I own as I'm pretty tall.

I picked up a 2021 se300 factory in October of 2020 and have put 135 hours on it. And it's been an amazing bike. I did have my regulator go bad at 30ish hours but sherco replaced it and my cdi and battery all for free. By far the best power down low out of all the enduro bikes I've been on.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Turbo tractor 😍

I have a 21 se factory with 80 hrs. Your comments are spot on! I would add, the ( Seals ) for the bearings are poop. The chain kinks, low grade. I did have both kybs revalved. Softer. And yes, I am getting my 3 rd display. Dealer is covering it. Map switch is like having a grunting 250 or a ripping 350. Love it. I am a 60 yr. Want to be C rider.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers James. It's interesting that Batesy almost never uses the mapping switch. But I was thinking I'd be using a lot if I bought a Sherco... all those low traction conditions! It was great how it felt like a completely different bike.

Fantastic review and the best riding footage in the business

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Me my son and 3 other mates all have shercos 👌 honesty they are the best bikes we have ever ridden 4 SE300 factory's 2015,16,17,22 1 SE125 racing 2018

Oh... the best service I spoke to the national rep to resolve issues and said I could bring to Cody Webb mechanic. Awesome

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

With some coaching from Cody too? Incredible rider!

I was set on buying a ktm 300 erzberg,after alot of research I decided to go for the 2020 sherco factory Ed,main reason is the kehin carby kyb suspension,premix instead of failing oil pumps,direct electric power valve that actually responds awesome along with ignition timing changes with the map switch,motor characteristics,etc what an amazing bike,I end up paying 10k for this with 23hrs on it,instead of 20k on a new erzberg,

@crosstrainingenduro

Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

I own a Sherco and absolutely love it! The main reason I bought it was because it still had a carby so trail side fixes for bad/contaminated fuels is easy and was concerned about reliability of fuel injected 2t competitors. I was a long time pumpkin rider wearing orange tinted glasses but it only took a short while to realise that the Sherco was a superior product and don't think I could ever go back. It's certainly quite nimble and manoeuvrable compared to previous bikes I've owned but has never made me feel uncomfortable on higher speed sections. Now go on Barry buy one

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

At this point? I probably will. I just like the fact they've taken care of the major known issues. And the power delivery was brilliant on our test ride!

Thanks. Very helpful video. Thinking of upgrading from 2005 ktm300 😊. Considering all 2 stroke options.

@crosstrainingenduro

11 ай бұрын

We are spoiled for choice! Personally I'd be tossing up between another Sherco next or going back to a Beta Xtrainer for the light weight... but get the suspension upgraded. It would be great if Yamaha created a proper enduro model with the YZ250X!

I own a 21 Sherco. Best bike I've ever owned.

Gets great reviews from Adventure Rider Centre in Mijas, Spain. Looks good too. Supply is the problem…slow to get them delivered as well as spares.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Parts seem to be good here, James. Batesy said there's a key dealer in all states who acts as a depot for parts... so if any dealer has low stock they can get the part within 24 hours or so. Apparently it's a good system. I'm not sure how it works in other countries though.

I came from a ktm to a 22 factory 300. Best thing ive ever done. Transformed my riding style overnight. I've had 0 issue and even done some long distance rides but mostly ride flowy singles and slow technical tracks. I know some people complain about the plastics but I recently binned it at about 60km/h and other then some scratches nothing broke or moved. Best decision I've ever made 👌

I own a 2019 300se factory! In the past years I had a beta 300rr race model and I prefer the transmission of the sherco a lot! Power delivery is perfect! I had a major problem for the first 10h on the sherco wich was the coil but Guy Giroux from Sherco here in quebec Canada took care of it and since then its a perfect bike!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I did see that coil issue popping up a few years back, Remy. How was the jetting on your bike?

@j0b3h0

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro it felt so rich at first but it was because of the bad coil! I tried everyting... leaner to richer, it always felt soooo rich and at the end it was just missfireing all the time! After changing the coil and putting back the original jetting it felt just perfect! But I cant tell if they do rejet their bike before selling them here in quebec! Honestly I never had that much service after buying something! Thumb up to sherco for that!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

When we did the Sherco known issues vid last year, I was given a long checklist for the fouling plugs problem as it could have multiple causes. Thankfully they seem to have fixed every single one of them for 2021... except the rich jetting. But Australian dealers just fix that now before they get sold.

One of my riding buddies has just bought a 2021 300 Factory. I can't tell you how excited I am to take him up some nasty trails so that he has to let me ride it out! Really nice looking bike, has all of the good gear on it. Will be interesting to compare it to the old Gasser and the Beta.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

If you are a really good friend you will also crash it a lot. With a pile of scratches he will stop worrying about scratches then start riding a man... possibly. 🤣

Rode/raced all summer on my '21 Sherco SE 300 and I'm in love. The only issue I have is parts availability... Have to get parts shipped from the US to the dealer then shipped to me. If we get a parts warehouse in Canada it would be mint!!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

A few guys have commented that the Canadian distributor needs to do better on the parts availability... and other things too?

I've ridden a 2021 sherco 300. The power is smooth and controllable. The bike feels lighter and like it has a shorter wheelbase. And, the KYB suspension is night and day better than the WP stuff on my 2018 KTM 300.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

My brother had a quick ride of this 2021 model too and loved the engine... he said it felt very similar to his RR300 which is well known for plenty of grunt.

I own a 2020, 300 SE factory, zero issues and 150 hours yet. I love this bike, in the past i had ktm, husky. Never regret this choice, next one wil be a 22👌

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Asta e o veste buna Ovidiu!

@legendhvh1239

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro That's so cool that you responded in Romanian. 👍

My Sherco trials bike was solid. I don’t think I even checked tire pressures in the two years I’ve owned it. I’d love to ride an enduro, but they’re still a bit boutique around here, so none of my friends has one. Best looking of the bunch in my opinion.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Flat tyres? Just more traction, Dmitriy. 😂 Both Sherco and Beta were boutique brands in Australia back in 2015 but are strong contenders now. At the enduro events you see plenty of both brands around. It's good to resist the Austrian monopoly. 😎

2022 300SE Factory. Got 30 hours on it now and the only thing I have done is gone to 13:50 gearing. When this set wears out it will be 13:52 only because I can't get a 12T front sprocket. Stock gearing means having to go back to 1st when the going gets tough whereas the shorter gearing allows me to hang on to 2nd longer. Works for me. Overall I find the plastic quality is fine and the bike engineering is up there with the KTM bands - but definitely put a battery tender on it. No kickstarter could be a problem at the wrong time.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I think Batesy put a 51 on his in this vid, Glenn. If I ended up buying one, I'd probably go 52. I think that's what Tim Coleman runs. I like the sort of gearing you mention, my Xtrainer is a bit like that. You can do most slow stuff in second, then drop back to first when it really gets tough.

I have ridden one. Fast linear power is dead on. It pulls from any rpm. Didn't seem to have the usual two stroke hit when coming into power because it made power every where in the rev range and was smooth. I rode myself directly into the bushes grabbing a handful of throttle, ok. It was comfortable too. Too much motor for my skill set, probably the smoothest two stroke I've ridden and one of the most powerful. Best bike I've ridden for single track.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

We have been pretty spoiled with the power delivery on our Betas. So much grunt. Linear power. So it was good to jump on the Sherco and find it was the same in that respect. It makes it a bit more tempting to go French...

I have a 2022 shecro , liking it a lot , just sold a 2021 Ktm tpi xc w, carb is the way for me , it is rich from factory but kyb and power is great, I don’t like fuel on and off location, but going to put on and off in line right before carb easy fix, and chain adjust marks r way off , so I use a caliper when adjusting chain, air filter is not as easy to change as beta or Ktm , but overall great bike comes with so many add on’s compared to other brands ! Gets a 9 out of 10 for me!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting, Scott... I know earlier models had the awkwardly placed fuel tap but I figured they would have moved it by now.

I pulled the trigger on a 22 se 300 factory last friday, picking it up next saturday. I come from 11 years of austrian bikes. Gave the switch a lot of thought and even more research, since sherco sell about 50 bikes a year new in the netherlands. It is quite the unicorn. But decided to give it a change and really looking forward to it. I also have gone with the higher bars, all the protection and am stil in doubt what I will do with the head and exhaust. Since my riding will be mostly high pace traditional enduro. Struggling with finding lower pegs however. From what I have read all over the internet, everybody that changes from austrian to sherco is more then happy. So not to worried about it, exept resale when it is time :p

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Dag van Australia, Nivero. I've already checked in case I buy a Sherco... Fastway footpegs are available. Only 50 bikes a year... they have been selling really well here. Established brand and we see plenty of them at the hard enduro events.

@nivero5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro We are seeing them more and more here aswell. Especially in like Germany and Belgium. Holland is picking up. May I ask for a link to those fastway pegs? Kind regards

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I've got two reviews, just use the search function on this channel. 😊

I'm currently riding a Sherco SE 300 Factory 2021, brilliant bike for a really good price. The bike is awesome, you just need some time to properly setup the carb and suspension. Easy tuning with a couple jets/needles and a revalve, as with WP suspension you need new base valves and spring rates. Sherco, in my opinion, only lacks in one thing: build quality. Bearings and welds could be better. Changing air filters is a struggle as the filter is held in place just like a YZ or CR, and tightening the bolt takes almost 10 minutes sometimes, because it doesn't lineup properly. The swingarm axle tabs for aligning the rear axle blocks are pretty much non existant in my bike. A close friend has a 2019 SE 250 Factory with almost 300h, just recently changed the piston for the second time. He couldn't believe his eyes, the piston was brand new and did about 150h. Running Motul 810 at 50:1 and Smartcarb. Oh, and his con-rod bearings were shot, as well as the front sprocket shaft bearing, but a bike with that many hours I don't see aby major problems. Aside from this, and having ridden every KTM bike from a 125 to a 300cc, owning a TPI and trying many other TPI bikes, the Sherco is a lot more fun to ride, a lot more stable, turning in tight single track and high speed trails is extremely easy, suspension when revalved is awesome, no need to spend almost 3k+ on aftermarket WP Cone valve/ X-act pro shock.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty good for 300 hours, Antonio. Two strokes have definitely come a long way in their reliability. Plenty of 300 owners are leaving top end rebuilds until 200 hours nowadays if they aren't racing.

I see them more and more in Quebec, i must say they look amazing!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

La connexion Francaise, peut-etre Gabriel?

While not exactly the same, I just bought a leftover 2021 SEF300 four stroke. Its winter where I am so I've only ridden it around the driveway but first and foremost, I LOVE the rear brake. Other rear disc brake bikes I've owned and ridden were either on or off. The Sherco rear brake feels nice and progressive like a drum brake, allowing for drag without locking up or stalling. Plus its pretty nice buying a bike and not having to add a real skid plate

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Is the stock skidplate quite solid? I must admit it seems crazy to me that manufacturers don't put on a more solid plate and advertise the fact. I guess it adds a bit more weight to the bike?

@LostIn207

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro Yes its the AXP 6mm thick skid without the linkage guard

I'm 6'2" 190 lbs and my buddy has a 2021 300 SE Factory. My only complaint is it feels like it needs a little more length for me. I feel squished when riding. Suspension is great, power is great. Bike is nimble, just feels a little small. But coming of an Xtrainer, you probably don't mind. Also, the starter switch is junk. Broke twice while riding. The solder on the wires was cold and broke off. Replaced the starter and map switch now no issues at all. Very nice bike.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I probably didn't ride it long enough, Chad. But I've noticed a few guys saying the bike feels short... not necessarily in a bad way. As you say, if I bought one it would feel roomy after the Xtrainer lol.

@Lib-enduromedia

2 жыл бұрын

Did you try to turn the steering clamps and put it a hole in front. I'm 1,87 mtrs and just put it a hole in front made a huge difference. More comfy.

I am super curious about these bikes, they seem very solid and are great looking to top of off!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

They seem to be very solid, Steve. A few known issues over the years like any brand, but they fix them very quickly. Being hand built really seems to make a difference.

Noice! If only I had a trailer to get one to the trails. And a truck to pull the trailer. And room for a third bike. And money for all of it... Work is the curse of the riding man. Cheers!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Bloody work. 😢 😂

Well Barry, no knowledge about the 2 stroke 300, but the 4 stroke 300 has no issues . I would like to have 1,5 cm more space between the subframe to put the airfilter in. Maybe this year i try the 2021 injection update just for the fun. Though choice between the Sherco and the TM,but if it's your choice it is a good choice .So good luck with it.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Ik weet het. 🤔 A few guys have commented about tricky air filter access on the two stroke models too. Thankfully dust is almost never an issue with our slow gnarly terrain. I probably only do my air filter once a year!

I bought a second hand 2021 300 ser not too long ago and cant fault it! power, handling, ergonomics all of that is spot on however I agree with the stock bars being too low. they kinda feel bad so thatll be my next upgrade hopefully. also the plastics dont line up on mine either but really who cares when youve got a 300 2 stroke with a carby that looks as good as it runs...

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

If I went for a Sherco I'd be slapping on the tallest risers I could find, Andy. Although the funny thing is it didn't feel low coming off my Xtrainer lol. I'm pretty cramped on that bike...

@MichaelTucker

2 жыл бұрын

There are many options for handlebars, but the issue that I came across with changing was that the stock cables are too short for tall bars. Gets the throttle to stick open when in a tight corner.

@MDHaughton

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelTucker Sounds like a good feature. Berm blasting made easy.

@andyfinney_at_large

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelTucker did you find a way to work around it or you just bought longer cables?

Own a 2020 300 se racing. Love it, no issues in 50 hours. Suspension is more then good enough for my skill level. Brakes are fantastic, Engine is like a tractor so much bottom end very hard to stall. The only things I don't like are its a tall seat height, I have lowered it slightly yet still very tall. Not an issue if you 185cm+ The pegs are very flat with no camber adjustment hard to fell comfortable standing. Stock grips are very hard and rubbish.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

First time I've heard about crap grips but they are updating them for 2022... hopefully they'll be better? Are the footpegs small as well? I don't like small footpegs... if I bought a Sherco and found them too small I'd probably fit the Fastway footpegs. Adjustable camber. You can move them down and back too.

@thunderbox91

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro not small just flat. After market pegs with camber adjustment would fix the issue. Grips arent a major issue there cheap to replace. Its worth noting all my plastics line up and can't fault build quality. Dealer support is excellent genuine parts are very reasonably priced.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

It's weird how the plastics DO line up on a lot of bikes. I guess the good news is there are no major issues on current models now which make it a very strong contender for my next bike.

Be cool to see you on the Tm. Seems there isn’t alot of vids on them as compared to say the sherco. Braap on king gumby!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

It's going to be a tough decision! The TM is a lighter bike but it's still not that established here in Australia yet for parts etc.

@jordanraccanello4920

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro the more people who buy them, the more they'll have to establish themselves in Australia? Having said that, I'm still waiting for mine to be flown in from Italy hahah

@Tklatti01

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro just don’t break anything 😉. A lighter bike would be helpful with your back healing up imo.

love the 2021 Sherco factory 300. put a sc2 smartcarb on it at around 50 hrs, has all the power with the same benefits of the tpi, just uses more oil than tpi. Would have stayed with Keihen if elevation and temp changes weren't an issue. Only issues are; skid plate doesnt cover linkage, stock bar (and grips) aren't great, seat ripped early, air filter a harder to swap than ktm/husq/gasgas, would like if fan had a temp guage. Next bike will very likely be another Sherco unless tbi is earth shattering.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Quite a few guys have mentioned the air filter is tricky to change. Thankfully I only do mine once a year as we don't ride in each other's dust. If I buy one, I'm not sure if I'd get a link guard or not. Definitely need risers for those low bars. And grips are being upgraded for 2022 apparently.

I own a 2022 300 Factory and love it. The bike is way better than I'll ever be! The suspension took about 25hrs to soften and I've re-jetted it from the dealers specs. I don't find an issue with the plastics, mine all line up fine. The power range is amazing and its value for money compared to many other brands. One thing you didn't mention, I think the resale will also be strong due to limited availability. I'm super happy with the change from KTM.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to say how resale will go. Some reckon it's bad in other countries. But I remember Betas sold really easily when they were considered a boutique brand in Australia. And they still do...

currently recovering from latarjet shoulder stabilisation surgery..... counting the days untill i can ride my sherco again

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I reckon the first few rides would have to be gentle ones, Hugo?

Fascinating thing I found out this weekend... The Sherco hubs are proprietary. I popped a spoke in the front and figured that the 233mm spokes that fit the Excel Takasago wheels on KTM would work... they don't. The Sherco has a 3.5mm thread and the KTM has a 4mm thread... ordered some and should be sorted soon, but still odd that Sherco went that direction... seems a lousy place to shave weight.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

Unsprung weight is the best place to save weight as it affects handling. Busting spokes isn't common to the brand

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting... I wonder how much they save making their own hubs? A weird thing I found out about TM's own hubs... if the chain comes off the inside of the rear sprocket it breaks spokes immediately. Very poor design.

I came from 2016 Husky 350 FE to 2021 300 factory Sherco. First impressions were pretty bad. I could comfortably do hillclimbs on the husky but it was hard on Sherco. Then I realized that the pressure of tires was like 1,5 bar from the dealer. KYB suspension was set up too stiff. The clutch pull was really hard compared to husky. After I changed all of these, it was like a brand new bike. After 70+ mth I wouldn't switch back. A few things I don't like about the Sherco is the clutch - it's harder and not so juicy than ktm/husky and shifting gears as well. I know it has counterbalancer already but is not as close effective as ktms, I had the issues with running rich as well, just need to experiment a bit... Anyway, I love the bike and will buy another one for sure :) carb lover here

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't really notice the clutch pull on my test ride, Jakub. But if I buy one I'll probably feel it in our tight slow terrain. It might be worth looking at the Midwest clutch lever, I fitted one to my Beta and reduces the pull by about 30%. I think the Sherco has a 'balancer shaft' which is kind of halfway to a proper counterbalancer... so I'm told.

@jakubhabran

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I could tell that because I had the easiest clutch pull on husky that I ever tried, not sure why but no bike ever have been like that. And Yes, I have the "midwest clutch " lever alike cheaper copy and it's working perfectly, I also put a washer under the clutch springs and now I can use one finer forever! :) thanks for the reply!

Love my shercos! Currently have a 2020 300se factory and a 2020 300 st trials bike. I have 50 hrs on the dirt bike and just got the suspension re sprung and re valved and couldn’t be happier with the bike! I always compare with a buddies bike that always gets the latest top of the line ktm and In my opinion there’s no comparison. Shercos are better equipped and just feel more comfortable.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Did you find the suspension a bit too firm? On our test ride it felt a bit like that. I was told that taking 30ml of fork oil out of each leg softens the forks. If I buy a Sherco I'll be experimenting myself!

@hilty1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro yes that was my initial thoughts as well. Even felt that way during a demo day on all the models. Over the past 50hrs on stock suspension I continued to adjust clickers and could get the shock decent, but forks were too harsh. Took them to GP racing in Texas and being 190lbs went up a couple rates on springs and had it re valved. Also come to find out sherco leaves the high speed compression spring off so the adjustment does nothing, so they went ahead and swapped that out while it was apart. Just did my first ride the other day and the bike is an absolute animal now just goes over everything like butter!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! My brother and I would be way better off with the base model Sherco which has the softer suspension setup... but unfortunately they are all sold out so we would have to go for the Factory models if we go French.

You should try the 300 SEF 4 stroke before buying a 2t !!!, i have one and it has good low rew grunt, im like never stalling the bike,even on the narly stuff, i stall my 300 2t Beta more.. has good controllable power and also good for full power sand hills,verry light clutch compared to my 300 2t Xtrainer

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I did get a few rides on one, Oliver... but a four stroke wouldn't really suit our riding.

Sherco has my vote!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Plenty to like!

Great video mate. Had to sell my 21 factory 300 cos of the mandates but will buy another for sure when I'm back at work. Love the engine and styling. The casting on the swing arm is average (for chain adjustment) and the plastics thing is annoying

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I did see one owner said don't trust the chain adjustment markers, Brett? First time I'd heard about it...

@brettc4387

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah so my swing arm casting looked like a 10 year old did it. Say for instance the swing arm on a ktm is nicely casted and easy to read the notches for quick adjustment , my sherco I could read one side but the drive side was hardly visible and the markers were not in the correct spot I ended up just always using a tape measure and measuring the adjustment bolt distance each time. Easy fix

@brettc4387

2 жыл бұрын

The kyb is super stiff ! I adjusted and after 10 hrs it was brilliant. Good for jumping and doesn't dive into corners like wp crap. I'm only 78kg without gear and it was perfect. Make sure you use electric grease for the fan fuse and tape it up. Bit of water crossing stuff blew a fuse for me . They don't like slow stuff without a fan. Probably my jetting at the time but Brilliant bikes and well priced . Good support even here in wa

@brettc4387

2 жыл бұрын

My dealer used electric grease to do all other electric plugs so they were sealed but definitely do the fan fuse too. They don't like hills without a fan

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Brett, it's all good info if we run with the Shercos. My brother is getting a new bike too so we might buy two of the same bike if there's a discount!

I'm on Sherco since 2015, you can't go wrong with those

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I test rode the whole fleet back then, there's a vid on this channel somewhere.

@jay7I0

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro yep, July 2015

Im in Québec,Canada too. And own 2 x Husky's and a 19' Sherco SE300Factory. Love the way it handles. My only downfall so far, is the one-way bearing uppon cold starts...

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Salut, Brian. I haven't heard about the one-way bearing at all. What's the issue there?

@brianbroekaert7172

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro when its cold outside (under 10c degrees) the starter clutch just slips instead of cranking the engine over. But I do have about 80hours.

@brianbroekaert7172

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro ..Oh and one thing I just remembered, the first time I rode it, I nearly stalled it, just in time to save it but guess what..I was now in Reverse believe it or not!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

-10C? Froid en tabarkak! If I remember my rusty Quebecois correctly lol. At 80 hours I'd say it would be due for maintenance. I have heard about the bikes occasionally going into reverse.... weird!

@brianbroekaert7172

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro +10c and under I mean ! Tabarnak* is the right word yess. But I really love the way Sherco is sticking to a carb..for now

I have a 2018 300ser the strong smooth power is bloody awesome, it has a high compression head not sure what a stock ones power is like. Pet hates tho are the rear brake lever that sticks out too far and gets smashed all the time, and an on off switch that kills the battery if you leave it on. Just replaced starter motor at 220hrs ( I mark out trailrides so the starter gets used alot) Pistons did 90hrs, feels light to ride and handles well. WP suspension is passable with heavier springs installed

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, haven't heard of the on/off switch draining the battery. If I buy one I'll have to look out for that. Although I think I'd opt for the enduro wiring harness which might remove the issue?

@perrinbrown2336

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro it's only a problem pre 2018 I think, kyle at dirtbike channel did a review on it, he killed a battery. The previous owner of my bike was Hamish Macdonald world youth and junior Enduro champ, have to say they're a tough bike because it did get thrashed before I owned it

Hi, I have 2022 factory, 40 hours on it. About issues that I have noticed: - muffler pipe is very close to the spring of shock absorber, minimum bent of subframe or muffler and pipe is scratching the spring - poor design in my opinion - in Poland warranty is only when U have restricted bike, not the open power one - front wheel touch the muffler pipe when the forks are fully compressed Besides that, it's a very well priced bike in relation to the equipment it has. And I think we should support smaller manufacturers to avoid monopoly of KTM brands. Monopoly is always bad for a customer, it causes a reduction in quality while the price increases. Greetings from Poland

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Cześć Tomasz! Batesy did say that a few bikes in the 2022 production run had a misaligned subframe. That should be a warranty claim. I agree, a monopoly is not good for our sport!

21 se 300 factory came really rich from dealer....rejetted put some high bend bars and hand guards...the things a tractor goes up more than I can..would buy another one!! only down side difficult to work on..

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

So you found the bars too low as well, Mike? If I bought one I'd be throwing some bar risers on straight away...

@mnovinger

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I guess I posted reply somewhere else..lol...I noticed the bars are so flat the clutch master cylinder line hit the bracket for the hand guards...higher sweep bar fixed the problem...

Does anyone know if they improved the clutch from wearing out?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, changed to different plates a few years back

Hey Barry, We have the same bike (2022 Sherco 300). Just wondering if you've had any issues with the bike making power. I recently had a few guys ride my bike and they both said it was down on power. I rode a Beta 300 and it was way more powerful than my bike, and it was in the rain mode! I had an engine rebuild done and its still not right. You had any power valve issues?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 ай бұрын

Never. But I have heard dust eventually gets in somewhere and you need to clean out the power valve system? I avoid dust so never bothered to read up about it.

@UTPP

2 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro So it turned out my map switch crapped itself and was stuck in slow mode.... Bloody Sherco's!

Knowing of a 21 300 with Bendix problems and the powervalve motor stopped working at 80h. Another one stopped working at 25h. Even on a 22 250 the powervalve stopped working after 7h.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Bendix problems seem rare after the update a few years ago... do you know if dust was an issue with the powervalve motor? When I did the known issues vid, it seemed that lack of maintenance was the main cause of issues as dust could work its way in. I don't know the details, I was just reading the discussions on the Sherco forums.

@simsonschrauber05

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know the real issue. The 250 powervalve stopped working after some MX riding. Then suddenly worked for some minutes and stopped working again. Even the E start button stopped working unpredictable

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I'll see if Batesy comments here. But I reckon there's a good chance it was just dust messing with the electronics... not sure about the button being a common issue, although one owner has said the switches were unreliable until replaced.

Sherco 300 or TM en300 whould be my top picks to if i was to buy a brand new Bike. TM owner today but i love both models. TM hits my feels a tad harder though.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically what I've come down to as well. Tough choice!

@TrolleLOL

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro It is a great problem to Have i can Imagine. Here in Sweden there are lots of shercos but much fewer TM’s wich makes them feel a tad more exclusive i think. Some might not care at all but i like that.

21 sherco 300 se, I added a smart carb2 since elevation changes alot in rides and got higher bars, my only gripe was the throttle pull felt so long after being used to ktm quick cams so I got a domino quick turn and now the bike feels right to me. After riding WP stuff for years the kyb really is so much better through most everything. design wise I dont like the air filter and miss the ktm ones.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen the air filter yet. The Beta ones were always tricky so hopefully it's no worse than that if I decided to go French.

@weenthemollusk

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro its worse then my 17 beta 300

@wednesdar452

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro If you get one, replace the stock filter with the Funnel Web Filter... Much more surface area and much longer between cleaning, plus it looks like an angry hedgehog, so what's not to like. As far as fitament, it's odd because the air box on the 4t and the 2t are the same. I never had an issue installing the filter on my 2017 4t, but it does seem to be a bit more of a fishing expedition on the 2t. I need to try installing the frame without a filter on to see why the bolt isn't lining up when the filter is in place. I think a small tweak to the metal bar that it screws into might solve everything.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

@crappazappa The stock throttle comes with a reversible cam fitted. The bikes are delivered set up Slow for Enduro, but you can flip the cam over to Fast. Probably could have saved you a few dollars there

@weenthemollusk

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danger_mouse yeah I flipped the cam but if you are used to a ktm quick cam thats like a quarter turn is full, which is very nice once you are used to it. The sherco cam even in the quick setup is moving your wrist too much, just my preference

Would you consider the Rieju Mr 300 Racing/Pro? Seems to tick all the same boxes. Here in Europe it's at a killer price too! Plus 2 years warranty!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

The distributor has put a big mark up on them here, Carlo. They are barely cheaper than the others. Whereas in other countries they can be $2000 cheaper or more. And that's how it should be for a bike that is essentially quite an old design so they tend to be a bit heavy, the bottom end power is doughy, and the e-start is that old fashioned early KTM design. If they were priced properly I would probably buy one though!

@carlogigante5239

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I understand, shame to the importer. Here they are a banging deal. It's my 1st enduro and i find the power to be plenty, so far (30h) the e-start didn't give me any problems.... Hope to keep it that way. As for your choice I would be quite split, the TM I've looked at at the dealership didn't give me the impression to be all that well made, for the Shercos I've never seen one in person. Great video as always!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you'll love the Rieju, Carlo! I think the current models have the 'wet mod' for the starter which improves reliability? And it's very easy to access the starter when it needs servicing or fixing.

I own my 6th (!) sherco now, a 300 se factory 2021. I have done 108h in mud, snow, sand, rocks without any issues. Before this I had a 2019 300 se factory and it run perfectly for 260h, with a new piston at 180h. Sold it to a friend and he will soon reach 300h.. Yes, the plastic doesn't really fit perfectly and I had to do some adjustment to the carb, but I really love this bike, so easy to ride and looks nice to 😁

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

With the carb alignment... was that because it touched the engine casing, Ronnie? I read that happened on some early models.

@ronniegustavsson

2 жыл бұрын

No, just adjusted the needle and changed jet.. it was too rich.. But the carb were really close on the 2019 model.

Io ho TM 125 del 2015 a carburatore comprata da un amico che viaggia forte per la media di noi neofiti, 60 ore non ha avuto problemi, una cosa guardate la guarnizione della pompa, era di acciaio dolce, e arrugginiva, cambiato con una in inox. Non ha problemi, forse inizialmente bisogna lavorare sui getti e carburazione perché è grassa. Sherco l’ho sempre voluta provare ma non ci sono mai riuscito.

If I could get Sherco's full KYB suspension package and their turning radius on Beta geometry and engine, I'd be done.

@te4097

2 жыл бұрын

You prefer the beta engine more than sherco?

@americandirtrider7662

2 жыл бұрын

@@te4097 the two feel a lot more similar to each other than the other manufacturers in my opinion. I can't really say I liked one more than the other. Both vibe about the same, both seem to have the same luggable power, and both seem to pull through the RPMs nicely. This is from a 21 Beta to 22 Sherco, so I can't really speak on the new bore to stroke ratio in the 22 Beta. Fit and finish on the Beta engine looks better though.

Are you looking at the 2 stroke or 4 and what’s behind your decision?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely two stroke for hard enduro, Simon. Reasons outlined in our recent 'best 300 two stroke?' vid.

Woow, lots of 21-22 bike owners... I still enjoy my 2002 ec300 :)) feel no reason to upgrade, but it would be nice a starter in places I cannot kickstart it.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

There usually isn't that much difference between those older two strokes and the current crop!

@2WheelDerness

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro i know, but I like the feeling and laugh on the brand new bike type of bikers from our group when they struggle and we who have oldest bikes can manage to go tru :)

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

80% the rider, 20% the bike. 😁

I am also trying to decide 'what bike'. Sherco is at the top of the list. I just noticed from a youtuber that the plastic breaks easily (the rear fender particularly). Does anyone know if this is still the case with 2021 or 2022 models

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of it being an issue on recent models. It might be like Beta. Back around 2015 the cheap Beta plastics snapped like pretzels but they eventually upgraded due to complaints.

@mmonro8307

2 жыл бұрын

I did some some more research. These two vids, 2019 and 2021 models say that the plastics are quite prone to breaking. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpdrxtaxZdWzlbA.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4SBk7KCnbSTZbA.html This vid (2021 model) says the opposite and that they are very strong: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqanycWHfbuahdY.html

@p.c.10

2 жыл бұрын

I broke the rear fender on my 22 on my first loop out, but i seem to break the rear fender on all my bikes eventually. If i were to compare plastics, i would say beta 2021 were the most brittle and sherco 2nd place with husqy being the best.

@mmonro8307

2 жыл бұрын

@@p.c.10 I see you ride in the snow, I think thats the problem. move to oz. no snow.😃

What are your thoughts on the smart carb sc2

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Never used one, I've always found a properly jetted carb works well

You mean to tell me that someone has stock of these. Last year I ordered one. Waited 6 months. Still no eta. Cancelled the order and bought a Gasser. Been on Katos for so many years I thought I would try something different but due to bullshit Covid delays I ended up with a red Kato. Honestly though I would not change a thing. The linkage ass end on the gasser is a night and day difference to all my other PDS Kato. I must be getting old.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to get anything at the moment in Australia. I'm trying to decide between TM and Sherco and there aren't a lot of bikes around in either brand... that covid-inspired spending spree.

Is the sherco trans wide ratio ?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

About the same as other enduro models, Brian. Definitely not close ratio like the motocross or cross country models you see in other brands.

TM"s still got single ring pistons? Ring change every 15 hours.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

If you are racing... maybe. KTM and other mobs will probably say similar figures for racing.

Carburetors rule on 2-strokes! TPI kind of sucks unless it's EFI on a 4-stroke.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

They'll get it right eventually. But I'd rather just keep things simple!

If Cody Webb chose them, I'm sure Sherco is good. Have you tested any of the aftermarket carburetors? Be interesting to see, thanks.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

They seem to be good bikes, Brian. Mind you, I think pro riders are possibly more influenced by which manufacturer will give them the best support deal... but it certainly means the bike can't be a lemon. 😁 Aftermarket carbs just seem way too expensive to me.

@brianlafollette7530

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro in Cody's video revealing that he was switching to Sherco , he says it still having a carburetor was a reason for the decision.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting... you can still get carbs on all the Betas and plenty of TMs.

Buy a sherko. Since this year they have a balancing shaft. that is, the absence of vibration was added to all the advantages. Replacing the injectors is not a problem. Personally, I still don't like the suspension too soft, but this is also solved easily and inexpensively

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I figure the suspension is the base model WP if it's too soft? I've only ridden the Factory model with the KYB which is a bit firm.

@user-rf2df2iu6t

2 жыл бұрын

​@@crosstrainingenduro for me, enduro KYB is too soft, it very very much compressed at speed, so it seems hard. CROSS shims makes the suspension softer

I'd like to g et one of these, I outfitted a 21 RMZ 450 for off roading (kept the 19" I don't really notice the 18" advantage for where I ride), bigger tank, magura clutch, chain and sprocket, skid plate blah blah. They're so cheap here in the states, it was 8,000$ out the door, compared to a KTM being around 12 out the door. At 51, kicking the bike when I am sucking wind is lame, but it is just showing where I am messing up. I would like a 2 stroke for the slow stuff and when it is hot, since the 4 strokers just belch heat. We don't have many options left in the states, and this bike appears to just fill every square. I had a TE250i and I extremely disliked the bike, as you said the low power situation, we have huge hill climbs at some of the places I ride, with next to run at them, a sharp turn before. I've had 250s over the years and never experienced things like this. Online warriors have told me I am just lame and don't know what I am talking about, oddly, none of them wanted to buy my bike for a reduced price... Love your videos, they're dangerous for my wallet.

@crosstrainingenduro

Жыл бұрын

Interesting to see a lot of mx bikes are now coming with e-start, Gil. Might make them a bit more popular for enduro conversions? Unfortunately most enduro models are moving toward no kickstart, it's a bit of a shame that with the Sherco you can't even fit one. It just means making sure your battery is in good shape and/or have some small jumper leads.

@gilvietor1918

Жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I ride by myself a ton and I worry about electrical gremlins. I am in Wyoming which I will often not see a single person for the entire day. It was one of the selling features of the Suzuki for me, though when I flameout my old butt starts to wonder if it was a good idea lol I've heard some horror stories of KTMs getting guys stranded here remotely. I do ride a 1090 adventure r, but that I am usually on a gravel road or 2 track so I worry less, great bike just amazing.

How are the ergos for a tall guy? Do you feel cramped up? Considering changing from my Xtrainer.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

It depends how tall. Most riders find the bars too low and add risers. I reckon I would go the lower/further back Fastway footpegs too.

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro I’m 6’1”. I guess I’m asking if it’s roomier than an Xtrainer, more like an RR? My Xtrainer gripe after three years of owning it is it just feels kind of awkward many times even with risers and fastway pegs. Like I’m lurching over the front. I rode a Husky and that felt a lot better in terms of layout. So how would the Sherco compare to the Austrians in that respect? Sadly test rides aren’t a thing here unless someone owns one.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely bigger than the Xtrainer, but it does feel a bit smaller than, say, a RR300. It might just be the low bars....?

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro thanks Barry. Very helpful. 👍

@p.c.10

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 we are the same height and my 22 factory 300 is a great fit for me. It feels very similar in size to my beta 200 and husqy 250 but i believe the seat height is slightly lower. The main difference i find is with the foot peg position and angle but i can't say i dislike either. It just felt strange the first couple of rides. Really enjoying the bike and stoked for spring riding.

How’s the clutch? The KTM clutch is magical. Takes abuse and never wears out. It’s the main reason I still have my carbed 2018.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

It seemed okay but I wasn't really focused on that when riding. I'd probably just change the clutch springs or get a Midwest lever if I bought one and noticed it in the gnarly terrain.

@UTPP

2 жыл бұрын

I actually changed 3 clutch springs to give it a slightly lighter pull on my 2022 300 Factory.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I might do this model if I buy the Sherco, just wondering which springs you used?

What about the clutch? There are riders saying that it has a hard clutch.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

2021 model seemed okay to me... but we weren't in hard gnarly terrain though. If I buy one I'd probably put a Midwest clutch lever on anyway.

@p.c.10

2 жыл бұрын

I would agree that the clutch pull feels heavy on my 22 factory 300. It's possible this could be adjusted through the clutch springs but it hasn't been bad enough to make me try.

Dealer said the battery was updated for 22 also

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

That would be good. The occasional owner has said the battery is a bit weak but not enough to call it a definite known issue.

After riding the 2022 beta 300rr race edition I think maybe you should reconsider not including the beta on your purchase list . With the new clutch and top end it really is a good machine. I’m very impressed so far.

@te4097

2 жыл бұрын

Have you rode the 21 or 22 year sherco model?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

All the bikes are pretty good nowadays, Donnie. But as a brand, I was very unimpressed with Beta's poor response to the main bearing issues that dragged on for close to three years. Their main issue now seems to be electrics, and of course it always has been in one way or another.

@donniemcfarland3160

2 жыл бұрын

@@te4097 yes I have they are very nice machines. My dealer is a Sherco and a beta dealer.

@donniemcfarland3160

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro understood I agree they should have addressed that problem immediately. Thank you for all of your hard work! Your videos are great! Keep it up. Hopefully this Beta will be a good one. We will see.

@te4097

2 жыл бұрын

@@donniemcfarland3160 any difference in the engine or power you've noticed? Would love to know

I had a 2017 model. I loved the floaty handling and way it just slipped across rocks. It was also very quick, super grunty, and stopped on a dime. But it was also unreliable and it eventually developed a ‘surging power off the throttle’ problem nobody could fix. Drove me mad in the end and I sold it for a song. I’d liken it to a very fit girlfriend with some psychological problems. Beautiful but not wife material

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Two stroke, Paul? I wonder if it was the idle stepper motor. Quite a few guys had issues with that when dust eventually got in, apparently it's one of the servicing things that many owners didn't know about.

@pjsmiddleton1

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro yes the 300 2T

I love mine it took a while to jet correct

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Batesy did say the factory recommendation chart figures are still too rich, but dealers and experienced owners know the score...

And the clutch apparently, not as long wearing and overheating after some tough sections? This has come up in my research.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

As per our Sherco known issues vid last year... "Two viewers report the stock Adler clutch plates don't last long for hard enduro. Apparently better plates were used from 2021 and on." Tim Coleman is almost always slipping the clutch and abusing it. I figure if the 2021 clutch can cope with his riding style the new plates are probably fine.

@MichaelTucker

2 жыл бұрын

Rekluse make a clutch kit to suit a Sherco. I think it is very similar to the Honda one.

@64nine

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelTucker Yes and is apparently good!

@64nine

2 жыл бұрын

They also say the KTM has a bulletproof clutch, so adding the price of a nice clutch to the Sherco (but has a carb) gets it that much closer in price. Will we see TBI in 2023 and how good will it be?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Batesy says they will be going to TBI in 2023. Not sure how reliable his info is as he's a very shifty character lol. I hope they'll be like TM and keep running the carb model too for us old school types.

Have had a 2020 SE300 since new and its the best thing since sliced bread. Haven't had a single problem with it. The bars are definitely too low from stock but nothing a packet of 30$ risers can't fix. Also spinning the the clamp around 180 to bring them up makes a big difference. I recommend anyone in aus to get a sherco and stay away from that over priced brand we all know and love.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

What's the clamp spinning thing, Brynn? Might be useful if I decide to buy one of these. I'm too tall for any bike so I'll use very mod I can lol.

@brynnjones3703

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro when you undo the handle bar clamp, the bottom piece that the handle bar seats into can be moved and spun around in the triple clamp, you'll see a little knob where it fits into. it moves the handle bars further up towards the speedo per say, and raises the height also. I'm happy to email some photos if you end up with the sherco. If you can get down to triple R motorcycles in mulgrave. The family there looks after all their customers really well.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brynn, I was hoping it was that! With my height I would want to push the bars forward on any bike.

Heavy clutch?

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Seemed okay to me but we didn't do any gnarly terrain. Possibly earlier year models were harder?

Plastics are huge issue. They are easy to break compare to other brands. I broke 3 rear fenders in 8monts. Each cost about 30usd in Poland

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hearing mixed issues on the plastics, Rafal. Some owners say they seem to be strong, others say they break too easily. I know it's easily fixed... Around 2015, Beta plastics were cheap, nasty, and way too brittle. A few years later they moved to more flexible plastic.

Hello i am french rider i have 5 sherco i the one problème on thé 5 sherco is a disc of thé clutches but good bike and is little fat compare KTM beta

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Salut Louis! I think they upgraded the disc plates in 2020? Hopefully no problems now!

The big problem in Canada is the grotesque supply lines and poor representation. I owned a 2016, Sherco 300. They would do well to find solid sales reps and find a way to make parts available. I sold mine because of these two problems. Won’t go back unless it’s fixed.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, not sure what the issue is with Canada, I suspect it is some kind of import tax issue, but they've had a couple of different importers since I've been following the brand and owners seem to be unable to ship parts out of the US 😏

@browndogozzy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danger_mouse I’m a fan of the brand. I just didn’t appreciate the treatment. If they can make it work in Australia then they should be able to get them north of the US. I think they’re better handled in America, obviously because of the huge market. Ah well.

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@browndogozzy Yes, as I said, not sure what the issue is with Canada... We're Shercos biggest market here in Australia, but we're a long way from France and it should be easier for you guys... I might ask my engineer contact if he can shed some light on the issues

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

That's a shame to hear, the distributor has a huge impact on how a brand is perceived. E.g. Beta had an amazing distributor back in 2014 who provided incredible dealer and customer support which rapidly established the brand. Then it was taken over and profit became the focus, the support descreased rapidly. 🤔 Manufacturers really should monitor how their national distributors perform and read them the riot act if they aren't doing their job properly.

Had a 2020 300 factory for about 50h. Motor is very good but needs rejet if your not a enduro-gp pro :) I do not ride much extreme stuff so for me it needed quite alot suspension/chassis fiddling to feel comfy at speed (lowered rear shock, harder springs and valving in the front, higher bars etc) Cold starting was wierd on it, was often completely dead for 2-3 runs on the starter then suddenly pops to life. Mine would not bump start if the battery is dead. Dont know if all is the same? If you are worried about plastics not fitting wait until you have the subframe off....Upper mount was probably 10-15mm off and needed lots of bad words to get back on. Fueltank bolts hardly fits at all. I think they simply took one bolt out in -21? Lots of odd sizes on nuts and bolts.....feels like you use the whole toolbox when working on it. ECU died at 45h. It is heavy!

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the whole starting this has been tricky on certain bikes. In our known issues vid, there was something like eight different things to check to improve starting. Thankfully the 2021 model seems to have all the necessary mods to avoid it... touch wood.

Love the vid, your humour stands out. But do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Just buy a 300TPI, be done with it.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Argh no! I did enjoy the one I rode in Romania, Luke. But that was after they fixed the TPI to get some low down grunt. They are so expensive here, then you are meant to spend another $1000 on an ECU remap and new head just to get the same power delivery of a carb bike... no thanks.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

But thanks for the invite!

I'm not sure about that Tim Coleman fellow. Judging by his accent he may have spent too long on a Beta :P

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

I thought his Ubekistani accent was coming along nicely lol

Not sure about this 'Batesy' guy, he sounds like a bit of a Muppet.... at least he seems to have chosen a good bike, going by all the positive comments on the video 😊👌

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

If he had any sense he'd be opting for a balls-out testosterone-charged name like yours, Mr Rodent of Risk!

@MichaelTucker

2 жыл бұрын

Love all these comments David. Oh and "what oil ratio do I use in a Sherco 2t?" 🤣🤣🤣🚲

@MichaelTucker

2 жыл бұрын

A:- 50:1

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro Risk Rodent.... 🤔 I love it 😃👌 Le French version.... Risque Rongeur 🤣🤣

@Danger_mouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelTucker I think it's pretty fair hey. There's not a lot to dislike about them, not unless you REALLY like the colour orange 🤔

Love mine...Check out my Drunk Twat vid to see how to break bike and ribs

@simmor6041

2 жыл бұрын

Just watched it and you're lucky toad. My ex brother in law was drink riding and ripped his arm off the shoulder. Seriously just hangin on by a little piece of skin. Still has it but no use or feeling. Hasn't worked since either. Your a good example to all why it's a bad idea. Just don't do it....ever.

@Supracrm

2 жыл бұрын

@@simmor6041 Sorry to hear about that horrid.... My drinking and riding days are over... Stay safe man

Only beta✊✊✊✊

Sounds like a 4 stroke

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting hey? It's a very similar motor to the Beta and they sound a bit like a four stroke too at times...

Not sure about the Sherco .It's French !! Enough said

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Shades of Monty Python 🤣

Will say one thing brand new strip it down and grease ALL bearing again from factory there shit

Sorry but screw Sherco USA. They screwed over the guy that started importing them to the US and now everything has to go through a dealer, parts have significantly jumped in price and are not as easy to get. Their markup's have gone up. Maybe they have upgraded fastener's or mine was a pile of parts bike but the socket head fasteners are poor quality.

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Bummer. I won't go into details, but something similar happened here with Beta a few years ago. It's gone downhill after initially having an amazing distributor who really built up the brand in Australia. 😢 Manufacturers really should monitor how their national distributors perform and read them the riot act if they aren't doing their job properly.

Beta not BATA 🤣😂

@crosstrainingenduro

2 жыл бұрын

Only the Italians get it right.... Beh Tuh!

It for real men bike not for ktm women on their periods