Shelix Cutterhead OEM Install For Dewalt Dw735 Planer With Before And After DB And Cut Quality Test

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I decided to make the jump to the Shelix cutterhead everyone is raving about online. I wanted to show you more than just the install. Is it worth it for the sound level? Is the cut quality really that better? Is it worth it because the cutter head is almost as much as the machine itself? Watch until the end and all you questions will be answered.
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  • @MyersWoodshop
    @MyersWoodshop4 жыл бұрын

    ■ Dewalt DW735 : amzn.to/2ReLKDV ■ Byrd Tool Shelix OEM size cutterhead : amzn.to/2MP3Xtc ■ Dewalt DW7350 Planer Stand with Integrated Base : amzn.to/2MNXkHu ■ Dewalt Dw735 folding tables : amzn.to/2MRvgD4

  • @FishersShop
    @FishersShop5 жыл бұрын

    Lots of good information. I think the helix handles figured wood much better than straight knives as well. Yet one more reason that I need to just bite the bullet and get it. I liked seeing all the installation steps so I know what to expect. Thanks Ben!

  • @robarcher5984
    @robarcher59844 жыл бұрын

    I should have mentioned that this is an excellent video. It was all I needed to complete the change over.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @TechieTard
    @TechieTard2 жыл бұрын

    Longevity! It's what we really buy it for. They are CARBIDE! Also, nearly no tear out on hard woods! In addition, you don't have to replace the cutter, you change it's facet and have 3 more sides left! The vacuum will actually vacuum the wood chips! This thing is awesome!

  • @Richard-wk9le
    @Richard-wk9le4 жыл бұрын

    Your narration of the change out was outstanding, so often others try to do it in a closed space the sound quality suffers thank you great video.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    glad i can help richard.

  • @richardsykes3722
    @richardsykes37222 жыл бұрын

    Van, my compliments on a flawless video on this installation. It was clear n accurate from the very beginning.

  • @billmckinney7398
    @billmckinney73982 жыл бұрын

    I just completed my DW-735 Shelix upgrade using your video as a guide. I only screwed up twice, boogering up one of the hex screws holding a sprocket on, but found I could get by with only removing one sprocket, but it was more difficult to reinstall. I also forgot the large split ring and had to disassemble some stuff to get it into place. I have both large and small c-clip pliers, so removing/installing those wasn’t hard, but finding the holes was difficult because of the low light level where I worked. Thankfully, a hardware store is only a mile away! Thanks! This was a very helpful video. A quick follow-up. The install went fine, but when I actually ran a piece of hardwood stock through the planer, I had a couple of ridges along the length of the board. This necessitated removing a number of the cutters, where I found some debris under a couple of them. Problem fixed. I should have taken more time on the cutter reinstall.

  • @dasfritz
    @dasfritz3 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a new Dewalt DW735 planer and a Lux CUT III cutter head. Your step by step instructions made it a breeze to install. I did pick up snap ring tool at Home Depot for ten bucks and it was well worth it. I used my cordless Ryobi drill with the torque set to fifteen to reinstall the forty cutter heads. This gave all the screws a consistent tightness. Thanks, you didn't miss a step. Looking forward to receiving my Myers Woodshop t-shirt that I ordered in appreciation.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help! And thanks for the support!!

  • @HiramWoodworking
    @HiramWoodworking5 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ben! Byrd should pay for this install video and send their customers it to help them in the install process.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    Send them this message!😉😂😂

  • @blakedozier1131
    @blakedozier11314 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the extremely informative video. Following your step by step instructions yesterday, I had the old head out of the machine pending the arrival of the UPS truck with my new Lux lll head. The reassembly process last night got as far as the installation of the new head, minus the inserts. (The large snap ring is a large PITB.) I will finish the job in the morning after enough coffee to wake up my brain. Just for your information - Sound Pressure Level (SPL) is measured with the microphone three feet (one meter) from the sound source. The pickup should be mounted in a holder of some sort, not your hand. A three decibel increase in the SPL represents a doubling in volume. Thanks again for the great video. You made a normally intimidating job very simple.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    glad it helped!

  • @daveyJ213
    @daveyJ2133 жыл бұрын

    A couple of notes to anyone disassembling their machine. First, the part they mention at 3:45 in the video - if you are having trouble rotating your blade assembly make sure you depress this spring-loaded piece. When it is in the up position it locks onto a bolt on that end of the knife assembly, making it very difficult to rotate. Simply depress it down, make the rotation and the knife assembly will lock into position with the screws facing up to make blade removal easy. If you install another cutter head other than Shelix, for instance the Titan Lux Cut Head, be advised that this part cannot be reinstalled onto your machine, as the Titan assembly does not have this bolt on the end nearest the smaller bearing. You would have to alter this part with a file to enable it to slip over the end of the cutter head. Second, at 5:50 you may have to place a small piece of wood between the chain and sprockets. Turning the bolts that hold in the sprockets made my entire assembly rotate, possibly because I did not disassemble in the exact order they mentioned. At 7:45, needle nose pliers work great, just make sure the gripping surface of the pliers have teeth NOT SMOOTH faced. I had my large snap ring out in 3 seconds. At 8:30: DO NOT remove the snap rings in the manner they showed. Get yourselves a pair of actual snap ring pliers. You squeeze the handles, they open, and grip the rings at the same time to prevent them from escaping into your shop never to be seen again. At 10:45 don't use a clamp. Just clamp the entire thing into your vise on your work bench. Using the exact socket needed, the gear comes right out. Otherwise, this is a very helpful video. Thanks for posting guys!

  • @THANATOSIXU

    @THANATOSIXU

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah i realized this was the case for me today so i unscrewed that plate after figuring this out...

  • @timwgeary
    @timwgeary3 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful video! II installed Thanksgiving morning while nobody was in the kitchen cooking, you know we are on lockdown! I did find out that I bought the little one, I was disappointed but bought it too long ago to return it. Thanks again!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @Knotmaul
    @Knotmaul2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if anyone had stated this already, but if you're upgrading with the Helical cutter system with the inserts, those inserts are numbered 1-4 on meaning when one side dulls, you can rotate them all to a new side. Definitely worth ensuring all sides are on 1, 2, 3 or 4 to make it easier for rotating the inserts. Awesome video, definitely upgrading! Thanks!!

  • @TheNewports
    @TheNewports3 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, thank you. I used this to help with the Lux III

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @MrMarkallen24
    @MrMarkallen245 жыл бұрын

    I bought the DW 735 planer and the factory knives chipped on the first board.I installed the shelix head and I not even turned the carbide cutters yet after a year of planing hundreds of board feet of rough cut red oak,hickory,pecan,beech,walnut and everything else I can think of.The cost savings on not having to buy factory knives every other board is more than worth the $400 price tag.

  • @StevenLarkin
    @StevenLarkin4 жыл бұрын

    I will be doing this in the short future... thanks for this !!!!!!!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @chrislamoureux5500
    @chrislamoureux55003 жыл бұрын

    Being both a mechanic and hobby woodworker, I feel fortunate in having such a broad skillset.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    for shizzle.

  • @CommunityToursAustralia
    @CommunityToursAustralia5 жыл бұрын

    Great presentatuon thanks

  • @jamesbillington4791
    @jamesbillington47914 жыл бұрын

    Very good video!! Thanks for the info!!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @TheNewports
    @TheNewports3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing this. Very clear demonstration. I am in the process of deciding between a drum sander and this Dewalt with Shelix cutting head. I would not consider the planer unless I could install the Shelix. Watching this I think I could do it. I too will probably get the OEM for the same reasons you described.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @hassanal-mosawi6049
    @hassanal-mosawi60495 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing that

  • @richardmckrell4899
    @richardmckrell48994 жыл бұрын

    Thank god you clarified it comes in a rectangular box. Most reviews never mention the box shape.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like to go into great detail in my reviews 😂

  • @richardmckrell4899

    @richardmckrell4899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thank god for that.

  • @CindyL4261
    @CindyL42613 жыл бұрын

    Totally stripped the Phillips head screws. Multiple warnings but they are like unscrewing butter. Thx for the video! 😊

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    your welcome!

  • @psatm
    @psatm2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks very much for posting! I did this yesterday. My advice: Get the snap ring pliers, absolutely will save you time and aggravation. Also get three M5-0.8x10mm screws, you will likely strip the screws that come with the planer - they are on TIGHT. I found both at Home Depot for $13 total. The pulley belt is a PITA to remove but eventually will come out.

  • @TechieTard

    @TechieTard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man, I'm installing tonight, thanks for the screw info.

  • @thomascostello5780
    @thomascostello57803 жыл бұрын

    this video is great - I'm also learning lots about CNC's from you

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it!

  • @steveb7477
    @steveb74773 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to say "Hello" to a fellow Arkansan. There's another on here, "731 Woodworks". Only found 2 of you so far. I'm a newbie but like woodworking stuff.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    thats awsome! Hello!

  • @mikeclark2720

    @mikeclark2720

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m just up the road in Jonesboro!

  • @michaelroof1969
    @michaelroof19694 жыл бұрын

    Good job guys. I have the Shelix cutter head and need to install it. The standard straight knives just can't handle pecan. I am hoping that the Shelix will handle it better. Thanks for the vid and keep em coming.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks michael! glad it helped!

  • @RickSwartwood
    @RickSwartwood4 жыл бұрын

    Started this disassemble tonight - you're OEM cutter cylinder rotates way smoother than mine! I had to use quite a bit of force just to turn it a little bit.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    hope this helps!

  • @ejicon3099
    @ejicon30994 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Well done both of you and thanks for posting it. Any recommendations on where to purchase carbide blade replacements for this attachment?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    from byrd tool themselves.

  • @robertwhite299
    @robertwhite2992 жыл бұрын

    Though I rarely use them, it's really worth it to own a set of snap ring pliers. You need one that spreads and one that compresses. But I thank myself for initially buying these.

  • @eevanskiteboards
    @eevanskiteboards3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, thanks

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @SH-pc4xt
    @SH-pc4xt3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting. Great video! I've watched numerous Shelix install videos and this is definitely one of the better, particularly the video with good shots of all the key steps. The snap ring sequences were a little painful to watch, but they got it done, albeit with 2 people and "3 pairs of hands". Nits I can't help but pick: The whole assembly is "the cutter head" so when you remove each of the 40 individual carbide inserts, you're not "removing every single cutterhead." One thing missing was a summary of the pros and cons of the OEM size vs. the reduced size versions of the Shelix cutterhead. And, although I make the same mistake if I'm not being careful, it's not 'Shell-icks", it's supposed to rhyme with 'helix', hence the spelling with 1 "l", pronounced "Sheeelicks". But these are clearly gratuitous criticisms, the video is clear, well-lit, and steady and the narration overall is quite good, making it a pleasure to watch!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    the snap ring was the absolute worst. we didn't have the right tool for the job.

  • @stormbytes
    @stormbytes3 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video. I mean you really knocked it out of the ballpark for clarity, camera work and narration. Wondering how you feel the finish compares to that of the straight knives. I heard the Shellix leaves a distinctly wavy surface. Have you noticed that at all? Also, do the cutterheads fit in a specific way? I mean.. is there some sort of tactile feedback to let you know the cutter is positioned correctly? Thanks again for a terrific resource!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    no, it's much smoother. thank you!

  • @richardtullius6419
    @richardtullius64193 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @michaela4141
    @michaela41412 жыл бұрын

    Love this video. I'm installing a shelix cutterhead on a brand new, never used machine. When I go to remove the old knives, first one came out fine. Cutterhead won't spin to get at next set of knives???

  • @blakedozier1131
    @blakedozier11314 жыл бұрын

    Got the inserts installed and the machine put back together and---IT WORKS! Thank you for the help. I also gave you a thumbs up on James Hamilton's site, StumpyNubs. Wonder whether there is a market for a used straight blade cutter head, five sets of blades, and a Deulen sharpening jig from Rockler? Thanks again.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    I tried...no one bit one Ebay

  • @jsivinyl1971
    @jsivinyl19712 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this Video! For one I went and bought a snap ring pliers, and two instead of giving that one piece some “gentle persuasion “ I sanded down the edges, since that piece really doesn’t have any use anymore anyway. Ran my first board through and I have to say I’m super impressed! Great investment!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @johnshort1536
    @johnshort15364 жыл бұрын

    Bit of work involved but seems well worth it. Good job.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    for sure. smooth like butter.

  • @airspike1
    @airspike14 жыл бұрын

    Minor point, a 3dB drop equates to a 10% noise reduction, so a 10dB drop is pretty substantial!! Nice review and a worthwhile upgrade.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah, the sound was noticeably less!

  • @nonexman

    @nonexman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MyersWoodshop Please keep in mind that the decibel measurement is logarithmic. Thus, a 10 db increase equals about double the perceived volume. So yeah, that's a lot.

  • @VolcanoRotary
    @VolcanoRotary2 жыл бұрын

    Instead of removing the roller drive cover, I found that putting one of the blade screws back in and then use a piece of metal bar to tap against the screw to push the shaft out with only a few swings, saves a little time.

  • @Misisipiflyer

    @Misisipiflyer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great idea.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist19725 жыл бұрын

    Your board tester corrected himself from shee-lix to shell-ix. Pretty sure the former (shee-lix, rhyming with helix) is correct. It's short for "Shear & Helix". I had one of these heads in my DW735. Their packaging has come a long way since then when it was a brown box with a couple blocks of wood to support it. :) It made a huge difference, and more importantly, got me out of the knife-changing game with the 735. Before the shelix, I was constantly nicking those straight knives on maple. I even used the single-side expensive carbide knives. In the end, the Shelix made a lot more sense. I wasn't concerned so much about cost as I was the irritation of having to constantly rotate the knives. For figured wood, the Shelix makes a huge difference compared to the straight knives. I know you didn't talk about that when talking about quality and sanding, but it's a HUGE difference. If you are doing curly maple or something similar, you will really notice the difference. Really, figured woods is one of the main reasons to go with a helical insert head for any jointer or planer. I have a Hammer/Felder jointer/planer with a silent helical head now. I wouldn't have realized how good those could be if I hadn't tried the Shelix first. Tip on the mic: Get a pop filter of some sort, or make sure you aim your mouth to one side of the mic instead of at it. Your plosives (like when saying "pop" or "purchase") are coming through super loud on the video.

  • @TechieTard

    @TechieTard

    2 жыл бұрын

    I will call it She-Lix until I'm dead. If they wanted it to be called a Shell-ix, they should have spelled it right.

  • @gdonham1203
    @gdonham12035 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I have been considering this upgrade for some time. As you stated in the video a new planner and the Shellix would be about $1000.00. So it would not make sense to buy a new 735 planner and upgrade with the Shelix. The upgrade may not be as cost effective as just buying new replacement steel knives. If my old planner dies I would definitely buy a new planner with the Shellix built in. It is too bad you cannot buy the Dewalt 735 with the Shelix. I think the 735 is a great planner and I have put thousands of feet of boards through mine. However the last set of knives I put in I had a ding on it on the first board. There was no nail or steel the blade just got a nick and I have to pass a board through two times to keep from having a line left on the board. That slows me down but it is not cost effective to replace the knives for this small defect. Bottom line for me the upgrade is not cost effective on my existing 735. The future may have a shelix head but not on my existing 735.

  • @charlieodom9107

    @charlieodom9107

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you both smoking crack? Where are you buying a 20" planer for a grand? The main reason to go to a helical head is for the knives. They last a LOT longer on each side than the disposable crap that comes in the 735.

  • @TechieTard

    @TechieTard

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@charlieodom9107 And virtually no tear out! Get a 20" planer and that thing doesn't have shelix heads ANYWAYS!

  • @misfit4777
    @misfit47773 жыл бұрын

    Great, detailed video. Question: would this have been the time to lubricate various components? Which parts required not to be lubricated and vice versa?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    it would be a perfect time to do so.

  • @vvjkumar
    @vvjkumar3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video explaining the details. Did you consider replacing the Phillips head with torx or allen ?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    nope.

  • @charlesthomas9294
    @charlesthomas92943 жыл бұрын

    I'm kind of surprised they don't recommend using Loctite on most of this stuff. I've had a BUNCH of screws and nuts fall off my Dewalt, including the one that held the adjustment wheel on, the spring-loaded outfeed table retainers, etc. I have taken to Loctite-ing everything that falls off. lol

  • @sarotouloughian1890
    @sarotouloughian1890 Жыл бұрын

    There are now other manufacturers of diy cutter head upgrades such as the Sheila Company which offer same or better quality products at lower cost. In recent years the prices of these cutter heads have spiked and opened the door for competitors to enter the market. This year I will be upgrading both my dw735 and my Ridgid 6” jointers cutter heads with helical ones mainly because, along with the benefits this video listed, helical cutters are amazing with figured wood which is what I work with. Plus I work in my garage and I have neighbors and town ordinances to work around and anything that reduces the noise pollution inherent with woodworking equipment is music to my ears. And my neighbor.s.

  • @snh_lname
    @snh_lname4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the complete. And unbiased video and review. I was thinking about getting the Sheila but after using my 735 for about 3 months and running cherry, maple and sapele through it (I buy 4/4 or 5/4 lumber). The surfaces are absolutely as smooth as it gets on the rough setting. So I can’t see how the Shelix would improve things. I can buy 10 sets of new knives (that 20 cutting edges) for,the price of the Shelix. At the rate I use the planer it makes absolutely no sense. The noise factor - doesn’t everyone wear hearing protection and eye protection anyhow? Btw, my snipe is practically not noticeable. Just my 2 cents.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep. its not for everyone!

  • @rickmiles9400

    @rickmiles9400

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you using the stock knives or carbide? I have had problems with the stock knives getting nicks in them while planning clean maple. The finish not at all smooth which led me to get the shelix.

  • @nickbrunelle2472
    @nickbrunelle24722 жыл бұрын

    At 8:24 when he was removing the second snap ring, my inner monoogue: "Please just holt it, it'll be way easier and it'll probably go flying if you dont...... Oh."

  • @melgross
    @melgross3 жыл бұрын

    From lots of experience replacing carbide inserts for my lathes and mills, I have to tell you that everything MUST be absolutely clean. The slightest bit of dirt, or even dust, can raise the insert enough to make a noticeable difference in cutting height. Even worse, if the insert is lifted at one corner, with the pressure of the screw, it can shatter when cutting. As far as this being worth it, well, most people don’t have sanders. So add a good $900 for a sander. If you’re sanding by hand, with an orbital sander, it takes a lot of time to take planer marks off. This head seriously shortens the finishing time. The best head, as far as finish is concerned, is a true spiral head that has several spiral cutting blades extending across the entire width of the head. But these are extremely expensive, and require specialized professional resharpening. But boy, are those results good!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep.

  • @CindyL4261

    @CindyL4261

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like all the styrofoam bits stuck to it? So annoying!

  • @tommybrannon
    @tommybrannon3 жыл бұрын

    While doing this, its a good time to change the sprockets, most will be worn down by the time you decide to make the change over!

  • @TechieTard

    @TechieTard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not if you're like me, I bought it, turned it ton to make sure it worked, ordered the shelix the next day. I will order some to keep some on hand though, thanks!

  • @pborschowa
    @pborschowa Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Is it just me or was the belt re-installed inside out?

  • @robarcher5984
    @robarcher59844 жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a factory refurbished Dewalt 735 with the sole purpose of putting a helical cutterhead in it. I gave it one last careful look-over before starting it up and realized that the splined drive belt had walked forward on the motor pulley as well. I noticed it because it was not parallel to the housing when centered on the cutter pulley. It was really close to the chain that adjusts the depth of cut. There is a little inspection port. I took that off and adjusted the belt at that end too. Just an FYI for anyone doing this. Haven't used it yet but decided to try the LUXCut III also sold by Mywoodcutters.com . I will upload a picture if I can figure it out.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok

  • @charlieodom9107
    @charlieodom91073 жыл бұрын

    20" planer for a grand??? Hahahaha!!!!! I've never laughed so hard! The Shelix head alone is over a grand for a 20" planer!!!

  • @francismallard5892

    @francismallard5892

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Shelix cutters last 10 x longer than the standard blades. Additionally, each Shelix cutter has four sides, so you’ll get 4 times the use out of them, with each one lasting 10 longer. What would it cost you to replace standard blades 40 times?

  • @charlieodom9107

    @charlieodom9107

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@francismallard5892 this comment was made a long time ago, but I think what I was referring to was the guy's complete lack of understanding on how much a planer costs. Also, if you are changing planer blades 40 times, then YOU are the problem, not the blades!

  • @kevinsmith7287
    @kevinsmith72872 жыл бұрын

    IMPORTANT: This video is very good and I got mine fitted reasonably quick, maybe 2 hours however........ The piece with the spring that has 2 screws that easily sheer became a problem. It wont fit over the new spindle so you have to pass the spindle through it as you are putting the spindle in. I hope that helps as it takes a while to take it all apart again to rectify it.

  • @rlevitta
    @rlevitta2 жыл бұрын

    One more thing - each cutter has a mark on it that are all facing the same direction when new. The cutters should be put back so that they all are in the same position. This is so that when you rotate a cutter 90 degrees after it is damaged or wears out, you can identify the rotated ones because they are aligned differently. Otherwise you’ll never be able to figure out which ones have been rotated and how many times they have been. Always rotate in the same direction - clockwise or counterclockwise as you prefer.

  • @h4jns
    @h4jns4 жыл бұрын

    The only question I have is how new were the original knives when you did your before change cut test? I just flipped the knives in my 735 and OMG what a difference in cut quality.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were new on the one side.

  • @MegaWingman7
    @MegaWingman7 Жыл бұрын

    The link you gave is for the smaller version and it’s actually more expensive than the larger one you got. Is there any benefit to getting the smaller head?

  • @kevindavis1219
    @kevindavis12194 жыл бұрын

    Haha but the Sheilx planned wood is larger and he was the one that was doing the job. Great video though on walking through on how to install. Been wanting to upgrade mine to this also.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    its a great upgrade!

  • @justingross1535
    @justingross15354 жыл бұрын

    The noise is quite a difference, however, the only reason you are getting smoother cuts is because it was a used machine and likely saw a ton of use. It certainly looked as though it did. I would buy a larger machine or the 735 and replace the knives when needed. Thanks for the video. Sorry about the buyers remorse! lol Keep the videos coming.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    the blades were ok. it has seen a lot of use.

  • @9Biloela99
    @9Biloela994 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @sveneisenhauer1
    @sveneisenhauer13 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Geez, DeWalt couldn’t have made it any harder to replace the cutter head. Will have to keep that in mind when I’ll be selecting my first planer. Sure hope there are more user friendly options. 🙄

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    they didnt. just get a good snap ring remover.

  • @nicklavioletteiii2183

    @nicklavioletteiii2183

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't purchased a planer yet, I absolutely love the Oliver benchtop planer! Comes with a Shelix head pre-installed and it about $100 less than the DeWalt and Shelix upgrade.

  • @jasonshimrah6923
    @jasonshimrah69234 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing the opinion with practical but I have a question. Which one do you suggest buying Dewalt 735 with OEM Helix head or 20 inches bigger other version?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    go as big as you can afford.

  • @Platoface
    @Platoface3 жыл бұрын

    I put my Lux OEM cutterhead on tonight. One thing I would stress is DO start all screws by hand when putting the square carbide blades back on... yeah. I may have cross threaded one the first quarter inch because I wanted to put them on faster.... I’m an idiot.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha

  • @rosswines
    @rosswines Жыл бұрын

    Nice short length 35mm diameter is excellent to knock out thr old cutter head cylinder from gear box side

  • @Misisipiflyer
    @Misisipiflyer2 жыл бұрын

    How is the finish after planing? Does it leave lines?

  • @paulgreene9997
    @paulgreene99973 жыл бұрын

    Is it recommended to use locktite on those screws?

  • @ef2b
    @ef2b3 жыл бұрын

    There's one more thing to compare against stock blades: Tear out on figured wood like curly maple. I'm thinking about one of these and was wondering if you or one of the other readers know if the shelix helps reduce tear out?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    it definitly will

  • @williamsanders6092
    @williamsanders60924 жыл бұрын

    You did not mention the better cutting of highly figured wood with very little tear out. Worth it if you mill any exotic materials.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    truth.

  • @TheLawnSensei
    @TheLawnSensei4 жыл бұрын

    nice tutorial, Have you ever had the issue that the chips don't come out from the blower? Do you happen to know how to fix it?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks! I have not.

  • @CastlebayNet_Music

    @CastlebayNet_Music

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have had chip jams on my 735 when taking a deep cut on wide pine boards. You have three options (1) resign yourself to cleaning out the dust chute every 10-15 minutes (2) take shallower cuts (3) let the chips blow all over the shop and clean out the clog when you're done planing. The noise factor, the chip factor and handling figured woods are pushing me towards getting one of these heads.

  • @ronmorgan5296
    @ronmorgan52964 ай бұрын

    Byrd tool installation instructions say you don’t need to reinstall cutter lock bracket with this Shelix OEM size cutter head? So why did you reinstall it?

  • @MrSock59
    @MrSock593 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if this was recently added to the paper that comes with the shelix, but on the paper it said to not reinstall cutter rotate locking plate.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was...after they saw my video :P i think my logos on the instructions now too!?

  • @earlcummings3653
    @earlcummings36532 жыл бұрын

    You just saved me over $400; while I use my planer quite a bit, I just don't see the bang for the buck here

  • @Steve-yk7iu
    @Steve-yk7iu2 жыл бұрын

    At 18:23 in your video you use some “gentle persuasion” to reinstall the cutter rotate lockplate. The instructions from Byrd Tool say to discard that lockplate. That may be why it didn’t fit well.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    yep, they added that AFTER i made this video :P

  • @jimsulsona4128

    @jimsulsona4128

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MyersWoodshop I would suggest that you put a notice pinned at the top of the postings (or in the description) - or even in the video itself - that the re-installation of the lockplate should be ignored. That would be helpful.

  • @rosswines
    @rosswines Жыл бұрын

    Use long point pliers to remove the snap ring or circ clip on RHS EASY..doesn't need to suck n better than small circclip pliers

  • @LQ-gaming
    @LQ-gaming Жыл бұрын

    whats are the dimensions of this unit including the side handle ?

  • @LanceMcGrew
    @LanceMcGrew2 жыл бұрын

    23:25 Yeah get right down there without safety glasses :( Otherwise your video guide is spot on and will help me do my conversion.

  • @sakaj
    @sakaj2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention there is an O ring clip you have to remove on the gear side of the bearing. Good video though!

  • @yeplol1367
    @yeplol13674 жыл бұрын

    Where the blades before sharp like new? I guess they were used for a while before you replaced them with the shelix. If you compare you should compare both with brand new blades.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    they were flipped on the second side so nearly new.

  • @scottlegendre1663
    @scottlegendre16632 жыл бұрын

    I can’t see any reason to reinstall the cutter head rotate lock. It doesn’t work with the shelix head. I left it off and packed it away with the factory head.

  • @aaronalonso6430
    @aaronalonso64303 жыл бұрын

    Any real need to reinstall the locking mechanism since that end does not have a hex on the shelix ? I’m just going to reinstall the Phillips screws to keep dust and chips out of there and store the locking mech with the old mandrel.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    after the fact...no, its junk now.

  • @Connorsdaddy12062008
    @Connorsdaddy120620083 жыл бұрын

    The piece that you hammered back into place (with the spring on it) isn't supposed to be reinstalled. It's an indexing tool that helps removal of the original knives (when changing blades). If you noticed, when you took the 3 original knives out, you're supposed to have to press down on it (since it's spring loaded) in order to rotate the knife holding head 1/3 revolution. When released, the contact points hold the head head on the small bearing shaft side of the assembly. When you reinstall the dust chute, it presses down on it and allows motor operation. Since the carbide blades are in a shelix/helix pattern (and given the fact that the new assembly doesn't have a hex end), it's simply not needed.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're right!

  • @nonexman
    @nonexman4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for one of the best "how to do its" I've seen on KZread. I had already tipped over to update my 735 when I thought to look at what's involved to do the switch. While a lot more detailed than I wish it was, it's certainly in my skill set. I do plan on watching it over again but stopping it after each step to write it down to give me a work-plan. That is unless you already have one? If so, please share. I do have several questions. At 13:20 you are pounding the new cutting head into the DeWalt. You do not mention or show how far is "in" in. By that I mean when pounding it out, once it's loose, it's out. But pounding it in how do you know that it's in all the way? Also, at 18:25 when you are reinstalling the cutter lock-plate, I did not fully understand what/why it was not fitting and when you are pounding it, exactly what is "giving" to give it more room. Needless to say based on these two questions, my general rule of repair/modification is that you shouldn't need to "get a bigger hammer." Lastly lastly, one of the reasons I'd opt for the OEM size is that, as you state, 'that way all of the initial manufacturer setups are maintained.' So are they? One of the things I do appreciate with my 735 as it stands is that if I set the depth of cut to 1/2" when you reach that it's within a few thousands. After the change, is it still so accurate? Also, please note I just added a comment in a different comment thread about decibels: that they are logarithmic and a 10 db increase is about double the perceived sound. That's a lot. Look up decibels on Wikipedia for a LOT more about decibels than you want to know. ;>) And Happy New Years!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    apparently the lock plate is useless for the new cutting head. yes, oem is good

  • @RickSwartwood
    @RickSwartwood4 жыл бұрын

    At 19:02 - when you've replaced the two phillips screws with the spring plate... I have the screws tightened as far as they'll go yet there is still a "spring in it's step" for that plate. Screws are tight yet not holding plate secure... Please confirm this is normal. Thanx!!!

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    turns out, that piece isn't needed any longer. Its for changing the blades on the old head.

  • @tombauer5762

    @tombauer5762

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes the directions on the Byrd website say to toss that part when you reassemble.

  • @TeamProsperity
    @TeamProsperity3 жыл бұрын

    OMG why doesn’t Dewalt just offer this machine with regular straight knives or with the helical head?

  • @TheDustyShed

    @TheDustyShed

    2 жыл бұрын

    Byrdtool does sell the machine with the cutterhead installed. Had I known earlier......

  • @jprevard
    @jprevard3 жыл бұрын

    I realize that upgrade mods (expensive ones) are just part of many products, such is life. But this cutter head is 2/3 the price of the planer itself. Is there really no better option than to buy the DW735 and separate aftermarket head?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    not that i've found

  • @scottrogers9542
    @scottrogers95424 жыл бұрын

    Something you don’t mention is that with certain woods you will get chipping even with brand new knifes and no chipping with the shelix cutter head.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep.

  • @vividad3666
    @vividad36662 жыл бұрын

    benefit of shelix for lowing noise only 5dB ?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    smoothness

  • @lucky5th2
    @lucky5th23 жыл бұрын

    And I stripped the screw you warned us about FML

  • @alfredorodriguez5945
    @alfredorodriguez59454 жыл бұрын

    QUE DIFERENCIA HAY ENTRE SHELIX Y LUC CUT III? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHELIX AND LUC CUT III?

  • @robarcher5984

    @robarcher5984

    4 жыл бұрын

    Call mywoodcutters.com . They were very helpful.

  • @paulsim7589
    @paulsim75892 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, the cutters on your Shelix has four sides before you need to replace one. I also believe they are quite cheap to buy a pile of them. If they gave you 6 spare, that is 6x4 replacements. I think if you use this most weekend or on most builds it will be worth while, if you are using a lot of re-claimed wood, I think its a no brainer. As the screws you has threading issues with, shame you could not find TORX screws that you could fit to make it all the same type of head. Still.... your probably only going to be opening it again like that every few years, so a bit over kill I suppose.

  • @darrellcurr8977
    @darrellcurr89773 жыл бұрын

    If you had a set of snap-ring pliers the removal and the installation would a lot easier for you.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    but where can i buy them when i'm shooting a video at 1am in the morning :P

  • @darrellcurr8977

    @darrellcurr8977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol that would be a problem, but again if you think your going to need them I would buy a set!

  • @darrellcurr8977

    @darrellcurr8977

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did love your video though, it shows how to change the cutter head! Good job guys!

  • @zski03
    @zski033 жыл бұрын

    18:25 DO NOT REINSTALL THE SLIDE LOCK PLATE. I was told to remove mine by Byrd tech support when they noticed it in a picture I sent them. It can cause problems and potentiality serious damage and isn't needed with their cutter head.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    this is true! I didn't know that when i put mine back together.

  • @TheDrmastermind
    @TheDrmastermind4 жыл бұрын

    dude.. twice you gotta call Alexa to turn on the DC and scare the hell out of my wife who happened to be out in my shop when you had Alexa turn the bloody thing on..

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    hahha. thats awesome.

  • @M5tworude
    @M5tworude3 жыл бұрын

    Buy snap ring pliers, they are inexpensive and eliminate problems.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep.

  • @s.f.customdesigns3486
    @s.f.customdesigns34864 жыл бұрын

    Do you happen to know why this head is no longer available on Amazon?

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    amzn.to/36UyLB0

  • @DonovanCYoung
    @DonovanCYoung3 жыл бұрын

    "not worth it" * 3 = "worth it". Got it. :-D

  • @colemahaney4208
    @colemahaney42082 жыл бұрын

    I did not like them in mine so i took them out and sold them

  • @spkendrick
    @spkendrick4 жыл бұрын

    Wow... $500. I’ll have to think about this

  • @seasgarage

    @seasgarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    The torx driver is probably from germany so they want 250 for that alone 😂

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah, it's not for everyone.

  • @CCWSig
    @CCWSig4 жыл бұрын

    I think your belt is inside out. I’ve never seen a cog belt installed that way.

  • @jeffdorrity5609

    @jeffdorrity5609

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought that and looked back in the video and he put the belt back on the same way they came out.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's not.

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did it correctly.

  • @paulbeard3238
    @paulbeard32384 жыл бұрын

    You took out screws with blue inserts hope you replaced them with new or put thread lock when replacing? Never get a carpenter to do a engineer's job. 🤔

  • @MyersWoodshop

    @MyersWoodshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    come help me next time!

  • @paulbeard3238

    @paulbeard3238

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MyersWoodshop a little to far away for me 😁 just wish I could my wood work is rubbish 😭😭

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