海蘭在這集沒有過於華麗的妝扮，但是氣色極好，清裝也很襯她的膚色，顯得很端莊高雅。

我超喜歡琵琶精發神經這段 琵琶彈得這麼好 又很大膽

海蓝真的好好 这个角色是全剧最完美的人设了吧 又聪明又冷静 还跟自己的姐妹如此互相信任

@jessicali8832

Жыл бұрын

她对如懿是爱啊！只是不自知自己是女同罢了。其实海兰心机深，手段狠，只不过她是依附如懿的，所以如懿能hold住，不至于让海兰行为太过。魏嬿婉是依附皇帝的，她的恶念恶行没有被皇帝辖制，所以肆意害了很多人。

@ShiNoMiRenge

Жыл бұрын

如果當皇后真的不得了

@j82739110

Жыл бұрын

不久就是替女主把髒事辦光的人設 生孩子都是為了女主毫無自我

@linanail6736

Жыл бұрын

但海蘭畢竟是知恩圖報，性格屬於正直、懂得自重的類型，不像某些人，日子好好的也要害別人看能不能讓自己跟自己的兒子上位。海蘭比較像是覺醒看透了宮廷叢林法則，不願意再坐以待斃，連如懿的份也一起負責了。

虽说七阿哥可怜，但玫嫔的孩子一样可怜且玫嫔比皇后更可怜，玫嫔从孩子出生到死亡还没看过孩子一眼，皇后起碼可以看过孩子，现在玫嫔报了仇，一切都是皇后自食恶果怪不了旁人

如懿就是善的一面，海蘭演的就是如懿心中想做卻不敢做的那塊黑暗得一面， 他們2位一體。

@Binge-watching

8 ай бұрын

是的

@mariahardy1201

6 ай бұрын

Ruyi was Hailan's strength and protector for so long. Later after Hailan had learned to play the game she protected and avenged Ruyi. I agree they were 2 sides on the same coin though.

@jieamy7753

3 ай бұрын

應該是說 如懿即便心裡有恨，也不願傷及無辜。

董潔在攜芳殿門口聽到永琮薨了的那個鏡頭簡直封神…憔悴，絕望，欲哭無淚，甚至連魂都沒了⋯⋯站都站不起來。😢

@evayu

11 ай бұрын

活該

@chenma9910

9 ай бұрын

演的真好👍

@jieamy7753

3 ай бұрын

她活該，但可憐永琮了。。

@jennywen4742

2 ай бұрын

都是因為他做那麼多壞事才會連累孩子 他的孩子何其無辜

如懿的心真的很好知道什麼該做什麼不該做

The insertion of the crows crying in the background is an amazing detail they’ve added. “Crows are thought to be the mediator between life and death As a carrion bird, they eat the dead, making them embody death and lost souls They are the reincarnation of damned souls and were seen as bearers of tragic news, usually announcing the death of a hero” When the crows began to cry, they were warning an impending death, foreshadowing that the 7th Prince’s fate was already sealed. Amazing amazing directing!!

@jensogo5447

Жыл бұрын

Wow! That's nice to know and makes sense..ty!!

@Ritercrazy

6 ай бұрын

So true. And a flock of crows is called a murder..... fitting but horrible.

Dang. I mean, it sucks that Yongcong died, but Langhua had this coming for the longest time because of her constantly harming other consorts and concubines. Her karma from killing Concubine Mei's kid especially came back to bite her in the ass in this part, and while I won't deny that she did deserve it a million times over, losing a child is still heartbreaking.

@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout

Жыл бұрын

Yes because the children are innocent and didn’t deserve to die the way they did from these schemes 🤧

@20PINKluvr

Жыл бұрын

Jia actually killed Mei's kid but used empress to do it

@princesslee9094

Жыл бұрын

不ㄅ

@marilynfriday7086

Жыл бұрын

And it was Jia who killed those kids. That’s another bit’s!

@btsarmyforever3816

Жыл бұрын

She also prevented Ruyi and another concubine from having children for so long with those bracelets.

玫嬪自己本來也不是好東西，讓她爬到高位的話還不是一個樣子害這個害那個。。看她當初稍稍得寵時得意忘形不把其他人放在眼內，還一來就害如懿就知道了。

@cc5657

Жыл бұрын

玫嫔是太后派去的

@reynerdtee1226

Жыл бұрын

看完整部戏再来看你自己的评论 看你在说什么

@annahunt8988

Жыл бұрын

Let us not forget that the Queen Mother put this woman in there she put two spies to spy on the husband two women spies Queen Mother put these women in there it seem like it turned out pretty bad she didn't expect them to go crazy but yeah the Queen Mother planted these two women and look what happened

@user-wo6or3sb6t

Жыл бұрын

玫嬪是因為背後有太后這個大靠山，才敢和皇后一般見識，但她性子莽撞，做事不經思索，最後終被賜死，也是悲哀....

@user-bp5lq3hd4c

Жыл бұрын

​@@reynerdtee1226 ❤/

害人的孩子!不覺得痛嗎? 老天爺,也讓你真正的感同身受

She's eating her own bitter fruit...I like that, well said!

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

She can't escape retribution

Concubine Mie was a very tragic figure. She was poisoned while pregnant, her physical health never recovered and she became mentally unstable due to grief. As a result, she was so easy to manipulate. Later as she is preparing to die thinking she has avenged her baby, Ruyi tells her she was mistaken on who killed her baby. She dies knowing she was just a pawn for others and never got justice for her baby or herself. I feel Ruyi could have kept silent and let her die thinking she got revenge. What harm would it have done?

@leonardolemosnero2621

2 жыл бұрын

Consort jia

@amberthemagnificent7259

2 жыл бұрын

She poisoned herself while pregnant tho to frame others and gain favor. No one else did that. She orchestrated her own downfall by being greedy and taking extreme actions with no regard for her baby until the baby died

@katherinkeegan8601

2 жыл бұрын

@@amberthemagnificent7259 Was that in the book? That was not what the show lead you to believe.

@amberthemagnificent7259

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherinkeegan8601 its literally in the show lmao, she was poisoning herself

@southernbelle6200

Жыл бұрын

Mei Pin poisoned her face ointment to frame Ruyi, and was poisoned by Jia Pin and lost her baby . Then Jia Pin tried again later on in the series but only succeeded in killing her parrot

Concubine Mei was unstable especially after she lost her child. She never recovered from the loss as well as her health issues. That is no excuse for what she did to a child. The Empress was evil though but the child was innocent. All the children suffered during this time just because women were jealous.

@mariahardy1201

6 ай бұрын

Wasn't Mei also only around 15? It's no wonder she was emotionally unstable.

@nullnull4010

Күн бұрын

When she had her child yeah, but remember yongcheng is already 4 to 5, shes 20 by this point

贞淑真是个人才

It's mind boggling to think that this was a common practice back then. Killing children so that your child to be the 'chosen' is heartbreaking in this series. The Harem was filled with murderous wenches, and the Empress was the wenchiest of all! Losing a child is devastating, but consequences for evil actions is called karma, and the empress certainly has a lot of bad karma coming her way!

@shio5186

Ай бұрын

Such practice were not the norms back then though. The ladies in the harem were said to be amicable with each other most of the times & almost all of them are sheltered noble ladies who are accustomed to living like a family with fellow concubines. Children usually died young back then mostly due to lack of proper health care. It's just that palace dramas like this are based on novels that are not historically accurate but interesting altogether. An example is in the novel this drama was based on, the main antagonist of the story is WYW but historically she and Ruyi could have had a good relationship because a portrait of Ruyi was later found in her belongings even after the Emperor ordered to destroy every portraits of RY.

如懿還是壓得住海蘭，這件事情是嘉嬪做的，琵琶瘋子太搞笑了😂

this is just my theory but being a completely fictional character unlike the other, Concubine Mei was created to in a way replace Concubine Yi. In the history, Concubune Yi died early. But they want the victim from that incident to have more role. In harem, you cannot survice without getting your hand dirty. Since Ruyi here does not want to kill children and she wont let Hailan do it, Mei pin is use by the author to overthrow one of Ruyi’s enemy.

害人害己害自己的孩子。 罪有應得。 知人知面不知心。

Well I don’t feel bad for the empress, she used other consorts’ hands to scheme and harm others. When the parents do fucked up stuff, it all comes back to their children.

小琵琶精好搞笑😆

我觉得皇后不是幕后黑手 而是她身边那自不量力的丫鬟素练 喜欢自己乱传达皇后的意思 😂 然后全村下线

@Harper741

3 ай бұрын

集體團滅

@ellenhage3611

Ай бұрын

empress Mother has Sulian doing some of this. then Sulian went to hui andJia to get some ideas and instructions

How can a mother pray to God to save her own child, when she killed the children of others? Won't He remember that she killed innocent children ? How can the just God answer her prayer ? just saying

@annahunt8988

Жыл бұрын

This is what we call empty prayers they do evil to others but they don't think the sins of the of the fathers come back to the children so her prayers are not even hitting the ceiling they're just empty prayers people still do that today when they're selfish and want something from God disregarding what they have did and they said and not asking for their own forgiveness in their own mess I do serve a god of Mercy yes he is but when you have selfish and useless prayers they don't go nowhere they're just empty prayers they don't go they don't even penetrate the ceiling

I can't help but find Jia so pretty, the actress did so well in portraying her

I haven't reached yet in this part but it's kind of ironic how in the original novel Hailan* & Ruyi were gloating and outright enjoying the weeping during the mourning ceremonies of Crown Prince Duanhui (2nd prince Yong'lian), and now both of them are outright refusing to harm 7th prince Yongcong as being "immoral" *in the original novel, Hailan is indeed the culprit behind Yong'lian, while in the drama novelization it's Hailan (perhaps urged unconsciously by Jin Yuyan's psyching) feat. Lianxin (with exposition of her Wangqin PTSD and that Langhua must suffer her part) & 3rd prince Yongzhang's cloth doll...both versions utilize reed flowers

@juliaalexander5788

2 жыл бұрын

I'm also not sure why no one really caught on that since the women in the Harem could not be punished due to their tribe in court, then people targeted their children instead. Empress, Noble Consort, and Jia do what they did in this show as well in the book?

@katherinkeegan8601

2 жыл бұрын

As with most dramatizations, there is major changes from the book. Ruyi wouldn't look like the sympathetic character if she is portrayed like the book. Apparently in the book she ties A'Rou in a sack with several feral cats as well. Again not the best look for the main love interest character.

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherinkeegan8601 oh were those feral cats, not just normal cats??

@katherinkeegan8601

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p Can't say for sure since I haven't read the book. I was just restating what many others have posted on other sites. Many do mention the cats being feral.

@asurmenhandofasuryan4610

Жыл бұрын

@@katherinkeegan8601 That scene with A'rou almost made it into the drama. A'rou's last scene shows her cowering in the corner, if you look closely she's covered in scratches.

全剧里就这个时候觉得皇后挺可怜🥺

1千多年,法相還這麼清楚,實屬不易

This is the harsh reality where children end up suffering the consequences of their parents' actions. Empress Xiaoxian had it coming though for playing a role in the cinnabar poisoning of Concubine Mei and Concubine Yi's babies.

@mariahardy1201

6 ай бұрын

Not to mention 1st Prince's mother and sister, plus causing Ruyi and Gao to be infertile. Annnnd trying frame & murder Ruyi repeatedly.

其实这个剧的立意很有意思，想要表现两个情窦初开的一对如何走到恩断义绝的地步，但有挺多不太合理的地方很别扭，这块有意思点在于，并不是皇后做的，后宫不是那么容易看清的

@hillafite7890

Жыл бұрын

有些感觉变扭的地方也没办法，其实如懿传拍出来的时候100集左右，导演花絮里有说，为了过审导演大概删减了30集左右的剧情，实在可惜

女人對別人兒女下毒手，最終一定害死自己兒女，一切自作自受。

害死別人的小孩.那麼多個.如今這也是報應啊.

出來混的，總有一天要償還。 怎麼還，何時還，還多少， 都不是你本人說了算的。

茉心这个角色很忠心，死的也是凄凉

It's sad but she should have thought about it before killing others kids

壞事做太躲，報應在可憐的孩子

@Binge-watching

2 жыл бұрын

孩子太无辜了

@ngshuenrong3070

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that both her sons were born weak and starts to die around the time she commit bad deeds really seem like retribution the oldest her daughter was the only healthy child she had around the time when she hasn't starts to do bad deeds but even she was forced to marry into a "bad" marriage(nothing compared to lain xin to he honest)as annoying of a brat as I found her to be she not as bad as her mom and still at least deserved to be a princess she did her duties as expected of her and at the very least thought of the kingdom and even her other siblings even from the other wives of her dad that she look down on like due to ying advice she managed to at least stop yanwang son from being corrupted it a shame her mom being a terrible role model ruin her to hate ruyi and made her do bad things she should still at least be able to be reborn as a human but from the working to the merchant class I can't see her deserving a noble life after all she done

@yinqihu5739

2 жыл бұрын

她的孩子可怜 被她害死的孩子就不可怜么

@treemoongo

Жыл бұрын

@@yinqihu5739 她的孩子可怜 被她害死的孩子可怜 就她不可憐

@s20110516sy

Жыл бұрын

或許孩子去了也是好事，至少不用一輩子被媽媽跟她的家人情勒去做一些他可能做不到的事

玫嬪也是可憐,孩子被害,太傷心身子也衰敗,又被嘉嬪利用除去了嫡子永琮,但也是皇后的報应！

Mei pin did a great job

Siempre me dió lastima la concubina Mei... tan pequeña y como de baja condición.... Esas mujeres,aisladas del mundo,viviendo y conviviendo, terminaron volviéndose locas....

活該報應呢~ 弄死別人的孩子不手軟. 哪有自己的不能死的道理🥰

欸不是 玫嬪頭上那個髮飾，也太像仙人掌了吧？

Dying person should not think of revenge, just confess of what she had done and ask for forgiveness.

We see this society as cruel and harsh in many ways - but on some level, is ours any better? Homeless vets, the poor, disabled all struggle - even those who’ve ‘made it’ have troubles The harem is particularly devious and twisted - one spouse if often too much to deal with - multiple spouses - can you imagine?

害人終將害己

妳害人別人害妳，一報還一報

白蕊姬这个角色演的真好，演活了，配角好抢镜哦

女生真的不要追求瘦而減肥，演皇后的演員（忘記名字了😅）她臉有一點點肉時最好看，清裝會讓瘦臉比例怪怪的

@JustRen_owo

6 ай бұрын

董潔

La emperatriz cosechó lo que ha sembrado con discordia y odio... que pena por el septimo principe ...

Cuál es el nombre de la serie?

Moxin was Loyal to Gao.She must have been treated well by her mistress.

玫嬪自以爲報了仇但嘉嬪主僕太壞了害死皇后的7阿哥，自己的兒子可以爭一爭太子之位皇后整天守著擷房殿門口可憐7阿哥枉死了不過嘉嬪也會有報應到頭的只是早晚

希望如懿就不要多管閒事了啊.

虽然皇后做了很多坏事但是看见她失去了两个孩子，还是挺让人看着心疼的😢

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

是啊 她也是一位母亲😥

@annahunt8988

Жыл бұрын

But you remember that she could kill two of her own kids when they were sick he kept working them until they died she killed her own two children didn't nobody else kill her first two children

加菲的侍女跟一個妃嬪居然可以隨意在宮中走動，隨便在宮裡下毒，真是好棒棒的設定

@Lisilaylook3saio

Жыл бұрын

他們還有一個天然的避孕藥耶，這有啥好稀奇的

@swnail1680

Жыл бұрын

@@Lisilaylook3saio 对 带了那么多年居然还有效果😂

@MDetail

10 ай бұрын

@@swnail1680 皇后她們是皇家藥劑師協會中國分會會員之打胎大隊,用藥手段之高非吾等小民能理解的

乳母又做錯了什麼有夠倒霉

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

是啊 嬪妃之間的勾心鬥角也會波及到無辜的人

Idioma portugues por favor

這貞淑接觸茉心，不會傳染嘉嬪與其子？？？

@jieamy7753

3 ай бұрын

應該回宮伺奉主子前會先消毒淨身，畢竟貞淑懂醫，知道傳染病的嚴重性。

@ryanbatista2069

Ай бұрын

戲嘛！

Karma is real! Before thinking of doing bad deed! Please think again

做惡多端的皇后也被報應了，嘉嬪也是惡人一枚

I have never approved of the children being killed or harmed because of the women plotting.

I have watched 2 episodes of this drama and am hooked. I don't know the background or where the episodes I have seen fit into the big picture. Have tried to find the beginning with no success. Can someone please point me in the right direction. Also a book has been mentioned. Details please. And is this based on fact or is it all fiction. Thank you.

@okmcglone997

2 жыл бұрын

Search “ruyi zhuan “,it will show you the whole 87 episodes

@janblackhurst1652

2 жыл бұрын

@@okmcglone997 Thank you very much. I can see I will be busy for the next few nights.

@rkh7360

2 жыл бұрын

@@okmcglone997 God bless you😊

@amberthemagnificent7259

2 жыл бұрын

@@janblackhurst1652 weeks* each episode is about 45 minutes and there are over 100 episodes if I'm not mistaken

@okmcglone997

2 жыл бұрын

@@janblackhurst1652 👌hope you enjoy them!

果然！蒼天果然沒有饒過大行皇后！😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@Binge-watching

9 ай бұрын

是的

董潔依然很美

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

是的

I am curious if the Royal babies are cared by nursemaid during this era/dynasty would it mean they are the one who breastfeed the royal babies and not their actual birth mothers who are concubines?

@ag2799

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The nursemaid breastfeed all the royal babies. Their moms breast milk is for the emperor... 🤦🤦🤦

@xinnamon_roll

Жыл бұрын

ya you are correct

@nekonette

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Royal babies had wet nurses to feed them. This is (I think) to prevent the children from attaching strong bonds with their birth mothers. Also children from lower-ranking concubines were to be raised by higher-ranking concubines and after they reach certain age, the children will be sent to a sort of academy within the Palace where they would live and tutored there. Again, the purpose was so the children don't get too attached to their birth mothers.

@kakes121

Жыл бұрын

@@nekonette Why do you think that is? I know that filial piety is important is Chinese culture, so wouldn’t them being close to their mothers be the best?

@nekonette

Жыл бұрын

@@kakes121 It is true that filial piety is very important in Confucian societies, the royal children can still perform their obligations to their biological mothers but not to the point of placing them over certain things. In the imperial family, social hierarchy is also very important, the Emperor and Empress are considered the legal parents of all the royal children regardless of who their birth mothers were. So they take precedence when it comes to children showing their filial piety. Again this is just what I gather from watching and reading here and there, another reason is to prevent the mothers from taking advantage of their children's special positions one day. The sons will grow up to be Emperor/Dukes/High rank officials and their mothers use their close relationship to take advantage to gain favour/special dispensations/etc for herself or her clan. This can potentially destabilise the power balance in the court and nation. Take Consort Jia, for example. In the novel, her motive to push her children to the throne was to help her clan to break free from Qing control. She was hoping one of her sons will become the Emperor so she can use that position to release the Jin clan/Joseon from being vassal state to Qing China which will make her first love happy.

I wondered what would change if the Emperor added a law that states any childs death from birth to (whenever they marry) will result in the death of all that took care of the child and the birth mother of the child. Would that have stopped the needless death?

@ingridmeister5597

10 ай бұрын

Well, it wouldn't have come out in a nice way since not evil hearted concubines have also lost their babies due to either natural facts or someone else's scheming🤔 SPOILER ALERT For example, Jingse (5th princess, Ruyi's daughter) died because of Wei Yanwan giving them clothes to Ruyi's son (12th prince) and siblings getting them switched. Well, the clothes aimed to the prince had a smell that drove Jia's dog crazy, go towards Jingse, startle her and make her collapse. Not only did Ruyi suffer given the death of her daughter but also had a miscarriage. Hence, we cannot forget Consort Shu and her deceased son. She truly loved the Emperor and never held mean intentions towards the other concubines. Plus, she was longing to be a mother. What I mean is that a situation like that should be studied to find whether it is a culprit or it is due to a natural situation so once everything is crystal clear, the scheming ones should be sentenced to death🤔

@Yoruichi_16

9 ай бұрын

That would motivate the schemers more to do it. A wicked consort with a strong family background would see it as an oportunity to raise to the empress seat and get the crown prince position for her son.

@juliaalexander5788

9 ай бұрын

@@Yoruichi_16 I honestly don't think the imperial system would have any solution to help keep the children alive....

玫嬪高興以為替自己的孩子報仇了真真害玫嬪母子的其實是嘉嬪皇后並沒有、中宮嫡子已出皇后幹嘛害玫嬪母子不過皇后自己做孽壞事太多害到自己的兒子啊、茉心只是奉貴妃的命替自己向皇后報仇之外嘉妃主僕心思想害死皇后找了玫嬪說是皇后害的，嘉嬪才是謀害皇嗣的人反而把罪又推給了皇后可憐這七阿哥還小就被痘疫感染、皇后這也是自實惡果吧壞事做太多了（活該）

@LGP2337

Жыл бұрын

你的國文是體育老師教的嗎

@natejin3450

Жыл бұрын

我們都歹哭，都歹陪著你哭🥲

@s20110516sy

Жыл бұрын

即使皇后事前沒有參與，事後包庇也有她的份。身為中宮皇后卻縱容旁人謀害皇嗣，背鍋是她活該

that Suilian maid, everything comes from her mouth always makes everything worst :")))

Неплохо, актёры удачные. Судьба Руи трогает.

小孩比較無辜

富察狼猾

這個嘉妃怎麼這麼容易懷孕

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

每一胎都是兒子

@shinyi75

Жыл бұрын

體質。 有的人就是很容易懷上，有的人則相反，用盡一切辦法，怎麼樣都懷不上孩子。

Killing children for revenge... despicable.

Скажите как называется эта дорама пожалуйста

成旧饭甘仲甘阴毒...

そ

She also evil

😅😅😅

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

💖💖💖

旁邊那位不是嘉妃的真淑嗎

@Binge-watching

9 ай бұрын

不是吧

皇后害人害己，報應

素練真的臭嘴加豬隊友

@Binge-watching

8 ай бұрын

是的

真受不了 周迅的声音 和形态

50兩 也太多了吧！

@Binge-watching

2 жыл бұрын

😉也不少~

@zz0987050945

2 жыл бұрын

聽說1兩=3000台幣 所以辦個喪事15萬 @@

@brightzen924

Жыл бұрын

@@zz0987050945 現在這個世代，差不多~

@mamypoko1982

Жыл бұрын

紅樓夢裡面 王公侯伯 （公）家的姨娘 1個月的月錢是 2兩 大丫鬟兩吊錢 但考慮到那個時候 很多食物都是自幾種 或是吃顧主的

活該

不行...那嘴唇好出戲...

@jjrl8727

2 жыл бұрын

誰😂

自己出轨，还污蔑自己老公性无能，这样的人看着就恶心。

@Binge-watching

Жыл бұрын

说的是那个角色？

@kaeiou3295

Жыл бұрын

@@Binge-watching 她說的是皇后演員本人的事

我又是第一！！

@Binge-watching

2 жыл бұрын

送你一颗💖

难怪如懿传不火，如懿这做派真不讨人喜欢

@user-kx5xc8nd4b

2 жыл бұрын

很多好戏都不火，不该怪剧吧，有很多好东西需要有品味有内涵的人才看得懂

@yinqihu5739

2 жыл бұрын

其实如意的性格很像甄嬛传里的眉姐姐 也是一个敢爱敢恨善良单纯的人 眉姐姐在甄嬛传里热度很高 但是在这部剧里就展现了为何眉姐姐那样的人在后宫活不下去

@natejin3450

Жыл бұрын

你給我住嘴！

@vannyintw

Жыл бұрын

如懿傳的確不是很好看，劇情斷點有時候很怪，加上如懿本身在劇中凸顯性格確實很不討喜，加上皇帝演技不夠。 樓上有人說如懿像眉莊，的確是有點。但是沈眉莊是以一個配角身份受歡迎，以女主角來說個性有點窩囊無趣。

@Nangong-zo5of4id6r

Жыл бұрын

如懿傳很火啊，衹是被大陸禁播了啊。因為从宮鬥劇可以看到現實中國政治制度的全貌啊，衹是你不懂而已😂

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