I'll have to respectfully disagree with some aspects of this video. If yall clowned him for having a phone in his pocket and yall were wrong, own up to it like how yall want accountability from him. Secondly, on the hawks play, the man explained what went through his head during that situation AND said it looked bad AND he should have dunked it. It's not an excuse to explain something while admitting it was not the right decision. Outside of that though Ben does have a lot of growing up to do for sure but I gotta be fair.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this comment. I agree that we should take Ben at his word that he had a jersey in his pocket, not a phone. Now the second part, I think the excuses come in when you keep harping on how people are grilling you for making a mistake you yourself admit to. Just own up to it & take the L

@AndreNoStacks

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 I feel you on that. I do feel like he's not fully taking accountability like he's just going halfway with it which is the biggest growing up that he needs to do

@jacksondbrophy9

Жыл бұрын

“Andre Simmons” u his brother?! LMAO jk but I agree with u, people harp on people for accountability, and when they are accountable they shit on them for making the mistake. I think Ben has a lot to work on and make up for, but I agree with u

@DemonTime08

Жыл бұрын

It was a Jersey in his pocket you can see it man, and on that play against the hawks he went for the spin and lost control of the ball and became unbalanced. Otherwise I think he would have just dunked it or went for the layup idk if y'all would be able to jump and dunk from that position he was in but I highly doubt it. And that split second of him losing the ball and becoming unbalanced allowed the defense to react he would have to regather his steps then jump up. He had 4 people closing in on him under the rim one behind that he has to worry about and two dudes who were gonna jump with him. Trae ok he wasn't a factor really but he didn't exactly know it was trae to his left in that moment he saw the two dudes in front close in boom quick pass. Now noone talks about this but the dude he passed it to I think it was thybulle isn't a small guy either but he did a super ugly gather and dunk attempt. He then got stuck in the air that could have possibly been what happened to ben and y'all would have clowned him for that so hop off dick already.

@AndreNoStacks

Жыл бұрын

@@DemonTime08 Not sure if you're referring to me but most of what you said was what my point was. He does have some growing to do but in terms of the jersey in the pocket, yes it was a jersey and yes I get where he's coming from with the hawks play. I've played ball so I understand how that could be when spinning.

"Heurter had 27" WHO WAS GUARDING HIM?!?! I want names AND jersey numbers!

@booman6789

Жыл бұрын

Doc had Seth curry on him most of that series😂😂😂

As someone with clinical depression, I call absolute BS on these supposed "mental health issues". The dude was, and is, looking for excuses, plain and simple. When the Sixers actually called his bluff and sent experts to meet with him to work these "issues" out, what does the guy do? He refuses to cooperate with them.

@treayed

Жыл бұрын

I have been saying the same thing. When you have mental health issues the biggest problem is you cannot always ask for help, but if it is being provided...

@DJcyberslash

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he didn't want to get addicted to drugs??????

@KdotLINE

11 ай бұрын

Yep. Absolute bullshit. I have major depression, crippling anxiety, and (thoroughly tested) ADHD (since everyone claims they have it now), and he's 100% just using those as an excuse. He gets paid hundreds of millions of dollars, has access to the best doctors in the world, and he doesn't even begin to try and work through it. Dude is the epitome of a weak millennial. I've never seen someone have so much support and do absolutely nothing with it but whine. If someone offered me even 100K a year, I would LIVE at the gym, and do nothing but practice my game and earn my paycheck. If I have the responsibility to do something (like a job), I don't care if my stomach feels like it's about to explode from anxiety, I suffer through it, and do what's expected of me.

@KdotLINE

11 ай бұрын

@@DJcyberslash What drugs? Antidepressants? They aren't addictive. You can get withdrawals when coming off of them, but it's easily controllable by tapering off.

@AvatarTrev6

11 ай бұрын

Bro he sacrificed his cousin when he signed his cousin , that man regret it that’s why he don’t wanna play

You've really been putting in great work with this content man. When you said you weren't doing longer videos anymore I thought that was unfortunate, but you dropping quality content on so many topics so quickly really balances things out well.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! That was the goal when switching to making these sorter vids. I knew I could be way more effective than I was during the off-season with the NBA season now coming up. And it's already starting to pay off 😤

@cond.oriano8211

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 No doubt bro, I see you blowing up 👀 Keep at it

Dang, JJ is straight deep cleaning Simmons' toot shoot.

“You are 6’9 Ben. He is 5’11 at best. THEY ARE STAT PADDING HIM” -RDCworld

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Lol RDC goated fr

@harposhi

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 *"DUNK ON THAT LIL N--* Dunk on his lil @$$." -Doc "Need Some Cough Drops" Rivers

These videos are so good and unique. Keep it up man!

The thing you do at the end where you tie it to a previous video is always a nice touch

I dont get how draymond in the media won’t say anything bad about players but on the court he’s kicking em in the balls talking mad shit and being disrespectful af

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Haha that's a good point! I think it's that competitive juice kicking in when he's on the court

@rezhaadriantanuharja3389

Жыл бұрын

my PE teacher once said that people reveal their true personalities when they play sports

@IllMatic97

Жыл бұрын

If you don't get it then you probably have never played a sport in you're life.

@adrianlepe4563

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 I definitely get that side of it I talk shit when I play sports too but pat bev is someone who’s just willing to trash talk on live tv and in the game which I respect

@CassCream

Жыл бұрын

@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 duh bro sports isn't life. When you are directly at verse to me I have no reason to respect you as a person outside of the fact that we both agree to good competition. But once the game ends we are all still human. I don't want you to fail at life I want you to fail at scoring more points than me for the next hour

This was a great video, enjoyed the commentating.

I think Ben saying that the media should protect them was more about from personal attacks cuz that's what he went on to elaborate with and he's right. And then Shaq and Nischelle were like "bet" and called him more names like "coddled". Your job is to talk ball, not what you perceive someone's mental state is.

@greedisbad9890

Жыл бұрын

But that's where the slippery slope is You can't fully ignore it but you can't go in too deep into it either because your job is to talk basketball Player won't be able to play to it's fullest when they have a lot of things going on in their mind, easy example is Boston Kyrie when he lost a close family member and he start playing bad, it's not an excuse but just understand that people have their own circumstances and supporting them through the hard time is the best way to respond instead of talking shit about them

@bencorn8606

Жыл бұрын

@@greedisbad9890 I feel like the analyst's job is to just say that the player is going through something in their personal lives and leave it at that. The public doesn't need to know every little detail. Just because someone plays ball doesn't entitle the public to know what color their poops were lol.

@greedisbad9890

Жыл бұрын

@@bencorn8606 yes and there's only small amount of analyst that do that Most of them are old heads that doesn't give a shit about mental health and they have the "adversity make us strong" mentality Wich is not true in most cases

@NeilLewis77

Жыл бұрын

After 20 years of talking about Kobe's mentality, suddenly they arnt supposed to talk about mentality?

@bencorn8606

Жыл бұрын

@@NeilLewis77 there's a difference between talking about mentality and attacking people's character

If I'm up and coming, I'm not expecting a legend like shaq to reach out to me. I'd reach out to shaq in a non-confronting way. You can't dm shaq saying why sre you not supporting me. Shaq is old school..respect has to be earned. That's what giannis did.

Shaq dunked on Ben while sitting. LOL.

Currently my favourite nba channel out there 👍 ur not just a channel that talks about a player and then goes on to list stats and then at the end says something like "he could be one of, if not, the greatest (insert position) players in the leage)

I can understand having mental health issues and not being ready to play, but the issues I have with Ben Simmons supersedes his recent struggles with mental health. "Does he love the game, or does he love what the game can do for him?" You're telling me Dwayne Wade can win a college championship with Marquette and Carmelo Anthony can win one with Syracuse, but Ben Simmons can't reach the tournament with LSU? He's non-commitment to the game has been showing early. We've been asking Ben Simmons to take 3 pointers for years, not make them, just take them. He's not remotely close to a 3 point shot going into year 7. Now circling back to the recent mental issues. I understand not being ready to play, I understand wanting to be around your teammates for support, but do you have to do that in a Louis Vuitton sweater with a Gucci Bag and Yeezys with the diamond encrusted Cuban-Link? It's all about him. "Does he love the game or does he love what the game can do for him?"

@warex4501

Жыл бұрын

Wish I could be payed millions and then turn around and say I am not mentally ready but I want the money though.

@ReallyGotMotion

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about a useless college tournament?

@splash3y3land77

Жыл бұрын

Y'all sound like children

Great content!!!

The idea of new media vs old media is nothing but a joke. Wanting "new media" to hold these players feet to the fire would be a terrible thing. The current media is full of made of controversy, awful speculation, with no accountability for the things they say. If you want these players to feel open and free enough to talk about how they think and feel they must be comfortable to do so. No person in the world would subject themselves to loaded gotcha questions, searching for sound bites, when another option exists.

I love your stuff bro. I’m on break in between classes your timing is absolutely amazing

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Uploads been fire

You're killing it lately TFW

People just don't understand it's not easy to only have to work 30 to 40 minutes..travel with the best accomodations..be bad at my job..hear criticism that don't affect it what so ever..and still take in millions..matter of fact show up for work..barely work and get a few hundred thousand dollars for my service..I feel Ben..life so hard it's crazy how the people with normal jobs deal with this stress EVERYDAY.. Athletes are just so misunderstood..lol

You got all the NBA headcases in this one 🤣🤣🤣

I think you misinterpreted Simmons comment about Huerter, he was saying that if Huerter had 27 how many would Trae have gotten if Ben wasn't guarding him.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you may be right. My issue with that comment was that he said it after talking about his passed up dunk. What he basically said was "but what about them?" instead of taking full ownership of his mistakes

@Y2Kilo

Жыл бұрын

But wasn’t Curry guarding Huerter? The same curry that’s on his team? Lol I mean I’m sure curry don’t give a fuck anyways like on some adult shit but that’s still kinda sideways like really

@jeffreyval9665

Жыл бұрын

Trey still destroyed Simmons the whole series.

@treayed

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Ben: It's messed up my teammates threw me under the bus. Also Ben: Here's one of my teammates I'm throwing under the bus.

Ben Simmons has some room to improve hopefully this season he can perform better get tougher meaner on the court and understand Shaq’s criticism and get to the next level. I guess we will see

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

That's really where I want to see Ben hopefully grow from this. On the court. Because if he gets in his own way again, it won't be pretty for him

Play like shit and get shitted on. Simple as that. In Simmons case tho dude just disappeared

Dude has more excuses than a kid who hates homework

I side with Simmons on the whole "If we're brothers why didn't you reach out" thing. Shaq has a history of doing that exact thing.

@princealirogers

Жыл бұрын

So Shaq is supposed to take time away from his many jobs and kids to reach out to Ben Simmons who has a history of not being respectful to OGs? Cmon bro this man entitled and coddled and it’s really sad to see somebody waste and misuse their god given blessings

@dtdjh1988

Жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree. Other people have reached out to Ben prior to all of this, from Magic to even Kobe to help train with him about his shooting and his overall game. It is not to say that Ben sucks, it is to elevate him to the next level. Giannis, Kawhi, and even Jayson Tatum all trained with Kobe and they all made it to the NBA Finals recently. Ben declined to trained with both legends so let's say Shaq would've reached out to him (not his responsibility, but it would've been nice) and give him some sound advice on his game. Would Ben listen to him?

@ITISKONY

Жыл бұрын

Dude just lied about putting Jersey in his pocket and it was not a phone. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And you're siding with him.

@beforeflight5566

Жыл бұрын

@@princealirogers Shaq is the one who called Ben his brother. Just like with Kobe, when his brother was going through a lot of turmoil he didn't reach out. That's my point. Had Shaq not called him his brother I wouldn't be on his side on that.

@jeremydade5402

Жыл бұрын

Why should he reach out before doing his job? Ben sat silently for months only speaking when he got a chance to complain about his money. Nobody owes Ben anything. He can’t keep sucking responsibility

I mean at the end of the day Shaq is probably right but he is a big baby. PS: Because he criticises others but when Chuck or Kenny say something about him he gets defensive.

@ninjaluc79

Жыл бұрын

He also flaunts his rings, but Kenny isn't affected by that because he beat both Charles and Shaq to win his ring. More specifically, Kenny was on the 1995 Houston Rockets, the lowest seeded team to ever win an NBA championship. The 6-seed Rockets with a 47-35 record beat the top 3 teams in the West (Stockton, Malone, and the 60-22 Jazz, Charles Barkley and the 59-23 Suns, David Robinson abd the 62-20 Spurs) and swept Shaq, Penny, and the 57-25 Orlando Magic.

@misterstaple

Жыл бұрын

The other funny thing is that shaq could have been the goat if he just practiced shooting...just like someone else we know...

I liked to hear his side about the dunk. Evwrgone kept saying he was making excuses, but to me he was just walking through what he was thinking. He wasn't aware of where the defense was and made a wrong, pretty terrible read. I believe he knows what went wrong but when he tries to tell people why he did it they just say your bad or something lol

@ghosttheripper8656

Жыл бұрын

Also I believe what he is saying about the play. everyone blamed him for the game 7 lost but it was one bad play in a 48 minute basketball game where he is the best defender on the court, he is facilititating, doing all this other stuff. I was on the ben hate bandwagon for a while but honestly just want to see him get back on the court and hoop. He is in a team basically built for his skill set so if he doesn't succeed here he won't any where

@isaiahhall529

Жыл бұрын

@@ghosttheripper8656 the only thing i disagree with was that it was only one bad play. There were multiple fourth quarters where ben took himself out the game by not attempting to score.

@Zenrei03

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't one play. It was the whole series.

@sanzo21

Жыл бұрын

@@ghosttheripper8656 bruh the man scored 0 points int he last 4 4th quarters of the series. The bad play was just the culmination of everything

@tylerlewis2766

Жыл бұрын

His side or not it's still an excuse. Justifying why you fucked up instead of owning it and saying you'll do better next time is an excuse

When Shaq keep missing free throws....he builds a basketball gym and practice on his free throws.When Simmons misses his shots...he cry about it.

"Didn't Huerta have like 27 points"

Players don't want to be coddled, they want to make their millions in peace without having to worry about what the media are saying

Keep up your efforts brother, your videos are awesome 👏

A very famous psychologist said there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and misery. It's a simple statement but incredibly accurate. Social media, modern sensibilities and an incredibly sedentary lifestyle have all compounded to create a very narcissistic, lazy generation. It is no surprise that people who focus mostly on themselves and don't understand or see the necessity of purpose are having mental health issues. The solution in part is old school thinking. Get over yourself and carry a heavy load with purpose. The very best way to start to do this and overcome mental health issues is to tell the truth or stop actively lying. It sounds easy and a lot of people believe they are already doing it. I would suggest really trying it. It is actually very difficult and incredibly revealing. I started trying it and several things happened; my mental health issues melted away but so to the image of myself. Confronting the reality that I was a liar, a fool and generally weak was very enlightening. I had this idea that I was a good person and that idea crumbled quickly when I stopped lying to myself.

It’s true that most people go through personal struggles. It’s also true that they don’t get to take a year off work with pay while they figure things out. This guy is kind of pitiful.

@MrCeegeezy

Жыл бұрын

But most people don't play in the NBA and they also don't have to deal with global criticism on a daily basis or accuse them of faking injuries and health issues.

Some ppl do overcome MH but some don't live to overcome it.

Shaq is smarter than your average nba player. I low key look up to him alot ! Plus he was way more dominant in the league than we give him credit for. Pure talent and physique

@greedisbad9890

Жыл бұрын

He is not lmao

@ojoj5194

Жыл бұрын

BS

@MrZackavelli

Жыл бұрын

Physique? The dude's conditioning was a constant problem.

@resevoirdog

Жыл бұрын

@@greedisbad9890 he's not.... what ? I said like 3 things... oh you're just a troll that hates on a good moment for a hero of mine yeah gtfo

@partycrasher9660

Жыл бұрын

Not sure how you can be considered more dominant when the general consensus is that you were the most dominant player of all time. Also the dude was literally known for being out of shape and that was Kobe’s biggest problem with him. You sound like you’ve never even watched him play lol

guess I'm the only one who thought Shaq came off kinda out of touch in this edit. Dudes entertaining on TNT but imo he's out of his lane trying to talk about all this mental health stuff. To me thats what all the "new media" stuff is about (at least ideally). keeping the analysis of "saying what you see" about basketball, instead of just spouting a bunch of shit about someones mental health with no dialogue with them or any formal training whatsoever on mental health issues. just my 2 cents tho

You got a discord bro? I wanna join 😂😂

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Nah I don't. Idk if I should even bother with having a discord server. But I might work on that in the future

Shaq saying "we all have struggles" is, by definition, dismissive

@mubashirmohiuddin5346

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@kl690

Жыл бұрын

@@mubashirmohiuddin5346 He minimizes Ben’s struggles by saying “look at everyone else, they have issues too.” I used to clown on Simmons too but minimizing his issues by saying everyone has issues is like telling a depressed person to get over it because we all get sad sometimes. This world needs a little more empathy and understanding… and a whole lot more listening.

@mubashirmohiuddin5346

Жыл бұрын

@@kl690 ahhh I misunderstood homies reply

Paused at 5:14 If you asked me "What happens next?" I'd say "He fumbles the ball out of bounds or travels". Spins, in surprised he's "so open", loses track of his steps looking/head faking "inside" so mishandles, late mid-air decision. Wouldn't say "scared" or "not playing hard" but "human being" - certain we can fins Shaq missing "gimmies".

Shaq looked Silly wearing those glasses but spoke the truth

Both Simmons and Shaq are showing everyone that even though you are considered an adult, you sure ain't grown up. On Shaq's side the line between memeing and actually throwing shade has been clearly drawn and crossed many times. So many times that it can no longer be played off. If that's the look he wants alright, I guess. It certainly shouldn't take his mother coming back into the picture to squash beef like it did with his last Twitter feud. On Simmons' side you get the feeling you are dealing with someone who understands clearly that they can be "childish" and "irresponsible" to a certain extent and still be paid an enormous sum still despite his actions. He has been real about the dunk however it feels like it doesn't make up for anything else. Kudos to J.J. for his podcast and the atmosphere he creates with it because it really helps Ben be likeable. From everything else I've seen (purely regarding the last 3 years of his career) petulant seems to sum him up well.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best comments I've seen on the matter. Good job!

@nerdvananorth2905

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 I really enjoyed this video! You do a great job of not playing favorites! Keep up the hard work :)

@jonathansykes4986

Жыл бұрын

Ben Simmons is 26. He is barely an adult as it is and unfortunately, age doesn't mean you're an adult. People can be 50 and still act like petulent little children. Ben is going down that route. Not taking accountibility for his actions and why would he need to grow up? He has been coddled since he was at least 16 years old. Look what happened with his time at LSU. If Ben doesn't wise up, he's going to be out of the league in 10 years and be like "damn, what happened, I really had a good thing and I messed it up" and you'll see him next to old ass Kendrick Perkins doing some trash NBA bit on ESPN.

@ReallyGotMotion

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathansykes4986 Lmao why would someone making 30 mill a season be on ESPN when they retire? 😂😂😂

@jonathansykes4986

Жыл бұрын

@@ReallyGotMotion athletes are really stupid when it comes to money.

Shaq's honest reaction to that information

awesome content, new sub. I have one suggestion and it's to replace "old school way of thinking" with "rational thinking".

To the owner of this channel I see that you know what you're talking about and I also see that you're an amateur and you're doing the best that you can I respect you because you're not trying to hide anything that you're doing I think you doing a good job the blank spots in the video you can improve on other than that you doing a good job dude😎😎😎!

the good thing about basketball is if Ben goes out there and averages 20,10,10 next season all will be forgiven and forgotten 😭

Bro just like me fr 🤦🏽‍♂️ 😂

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Lol you got me there Spex

@SpexMedia

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 🤝

Shaq is like the Godfather when he is slapping Jonny Fontane. "Be a man!"

Ben Simmons is the ultimate won’t take accountability for anything he’s ever done wrong. Man refused to improve his offensive game or take a jumpshot the entire time he was on the Sixers. It’s hilarious to watch him finally suffering the consequences of his own actions.

NOBODY TALKING ABOUT SHAQS GLASSES🤣😭

“Shut your face up little man cause we still don’t know who you are” The disrespect from Shaq holyyy

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Shaq smelled BBQ chicken & went to town on Ben no cap

@DukeGibo

10 ай бұрын

The bottom line is that the only reason that Shaq got all heated up and unleashed his words is that deep down he knows what a great player Ben Simmons could be and he gets frustrated that Ben knows it too but fails to show it and hands out excuses after excuses

The times have changed in the nba everyone who is in the league grew up watching lebron take games off, not prioritizing fundamentals,teaming up with his friends,engaging in social media too much and going to Miami to stack the deck so these are the results a generation of ball players who think they are lebron post Miami

I really hope ben sees this as an opportunity to prove people they wrong about him. Ben you gotta show up man. Prove to Shaq and all these media that they wrong about you

Yet in Wisconsin sits a Beast of the Midwest who once was heavily critized and is still critized by the way he plays, but he never cries nor complains; he just plays.

I never cared that it was a jersey or a phone, people were too interfering on that, who cares if he had phones in his pants? Ben Simmons can lie to exonerate himself, he has been demonstrated to enjoy the social media clout like Kevin Durant did, these folks love to seek social media crowd's validation. This is not relevant to his game. I'm not into celebrity culture. The rest of it are just excuses. Andrew Wiggins dunked on Luka Doncic. They are both 6'8". And his excuse about "doing it on defensive part" is the thing I hate the most about modern NBA. Bradley Beal once cried on the bench after scoring 50 points on a losing game. He did everything on the offense part which excuse the defensive lapses. Casual fans were like fake simping on him. Giannis led and only scored 24 points in a blow out game, sit the entire 4th quarter, and people still disrespect him. He didn't even cared, and he got a ring. As a fan who was hyped about Melo Anthony, Allen Iverson, and then Vince Carter - these guys didn't have a ring. And Westbrook probably would retire ringless. Simmons had a chance. A very good one. And he blew it. I know a lot of fans universally worshipped Kobe and treat his words like Bible. Well, here is his word for Simmons: "one day, you will look back into your career and regretted that he could have worked harder." He had the privilege of being drafted into a team that has quite a roster. They missed 2019 because of mere luck, and that 2021 series is just awful, plain awful. Anybody can be as contrarian as they like to be different and cool, but when your 177 million dollar superstar broke down in times you need it, the guy is not a 177 million dollar superstar anymore.

I'm very surprised ben simmons made it this far and can't take criticism sometimes. I'm in Hs and our coach critizises us everyday 24/7 and I'm not gonna lie it wears down on me

@joshuahorton5135

Жыл бұрын

Simmons doesn’t have an issue with criticism within the game of basketball but the moment you step out of that yes that’s gone too far

Ben should call Nobody out cause all u have to do is point out he’s the tinman he has no heart💯

I think the irony of Shaq’s crybaby comment is we saw Embiid cry after losing game 7 to the Raptors 😢.

@MrZackavelli

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't crying in response to being criticized; that's the difference. He was crying from the agony of defeat.

@alexescutia4805

Жыл бұрын

@@MrZackavelli say what you want about foul merchant but he loves the game and winning was everything to him, obviously don’t know Simmons personally but he seems like the opposite man doing it for the money which is fine but teams should be aware he doesn’t wanna win or be the best he can be like a Gianni’s

I know ben simmons be listening to sad music at night in bed

If I'm keeping it a buck, Ben shouldn't have gotten that much criticism and that much blame. Doc isn't as great of a coach as folks make him out to be and Joel sold hard in that game too. I don't think Ben wants to be coddled. I think he was just angry and hurt that Shaq and Chuck always give personal insults when talking about players and for some reason we accept that. If somebody talked to Chuck and Shaq the same way they talked about players they'd punch them in the mouth especially Shaq. Just cause you won doesn't mean you can be blatantly disrespectful. That's why I pray for the day Javale McGee gets 4-5 rings.

@yourboydylan1770

Жыл бұрын

Ben definitely wants to be coddled 😂

@warex4501

Жыл бұрын

Ben wants to be coddled and hand held through life until it comes to that money though. Then he has no problems. Everything is fine. Until he has to put in that work. Then it's back to being treated like a child with no responsibilities.

@j_the_don5160

Жыл бұрын

@@warex4501 so he should be called soft and weak on national tv? Y’all fight for less on a regular day and he’s supposed to be above that. All your telling me is that he’s supposed to be a better human being than you and live to unrealistic standard you set. I’m not saying dude wasn’t wrong and he didn’t do some childish shit. I’m just saying that this shit is disrespectful and I see why he’s have problems with it.

So wait.....does Jalen Rose still think that the Sixers owe Ben an apology.....If anything, we probably owe the Nets an apology for suckering them into trading for Ben.

Here’s the thing… I can appreciate the fact that Ben Simmons is going through stuff. Deal with it how you choose to deal with it. That notwithstanding, he has to also understand that everything he does is going to be over analyzed ESPECIALLY because he didn’t say anything about it for a year. He’s a public figure. It’s the nature of things. And I don’t envy him at all. I know what it’s like to go through mental health challenges. I wish Ben all the best

One of the best analysists I've ever seen was Bill Walton calling out the Michigan fab 5 with a classic quote, "they think they're better than they are!" Now they werent chumps. National championship game while freshman. National Championship game as sophomores. Lost them both. They certainly accomplished a ton, but they were commanding respect that hadn't been fully earned yet. Humble yourselves, people. Any high pressure job comes with no excuses. And that is reality

Shaq telling anyone to grow up is a little too much. I get that on the court he was a serious professional but his comments as an analyst are more fun and light hearted and verge on disrespectful at times. His personal attacks on Javale Mcgee we’re extremely childish.

@brbosen

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Shaq is entertaining, but that is all. His "analysis" is weak at best.

Just for me, the amount of pressure and responsibility increases with the amount of pay you get, and we'll most likely never understand what it's like to be at the top level like Ben and any NBA players, but being a public figure no matter what field comes with flak and criticism from all sides that needs to be taken, and I feel like Ben unfortunately can't handle it and needs thicker skin. I hope he can get his game to the next level, but having the tolerance for slights and opinions against you and a tough mindset on and off the court are basically prerequisites for someone in his position.

@ghosttheripper8656

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's like he has the mind of a role player you know? Not the mind of a max player. I cant blame him cause like you said we would never understand that pressure, of being the second option when you aren't a natural scorer. I hope he gets what he is looking for in Brooklyn, because with Kyrie, Seth curry, and KD he shouldn't have to put up more than 10 PTS a game .

@antoniobautista6718

Жыл бұрын

@@ghosttheripper8656 Very much so man. Hopefully he can prove us doubters wrong and take his game to the next level with a new team and a fresh start.

@jonathansykes4986

Жыл бұрын

oh ffs, pressure and responsibility? you put a ball in a hoop. you aint curing cancer. you aint building no house. no one is gonna die if you make a mistake.

Now that I’ve seen the picture from the front of him then I how it’s a jersey….

14:45 yikes I never got to that clip .... Yeah Shaq was 100% wrong on that. Many celebrities have committed suicide when people though of them as the face of joy. (R.I.P Robin williams ) . The rest of the interview I do understand where he is coming from whether I agree with it or not

@diablejambe3460

Жыл бұрын

Agree, i mean ive never claimed to have depression cuz i feel that word gets thrown around way too easily nowadays by ppl who r just kinda having a tough time. Were there times in my life where maybe a doctor wouldve said that i had mild depression? I dont know, maybe. I mean i wouldnt be totally surprised if that was the case but none of those close to me wouldve had any idea cuz i never showed any of my sadness (or at least not to that extent). Do i think simmons is soft? Yes i do, but im not gon sit here and say he was fine cuz he looked like it. Maybe having a hot girl by his side and indulging in that lifestyle was his coping mechanism. Im also more of the "tough love" type, but that comment was wrong.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Yes this was a problematic statement from Shaq that has to be addressed. Stephen A said the same thing during the season & Molly thankfully called him out. I know people that appear happy & successful that suffer inside. It hurts to see it man

@ghosttheripper8656

Жыл бұрын

@@diablejambe3460 for me I am apart of the younger generation (21) and was recently diagnosed with clinical depression. I didn't realize it because I assumed it was wanting to KYS all the time . For me, it was the lack of drive that killed me. Not wanting to do anything productive but not knowing why was so frustrating. That's the main reason I give ben the benefit of the doubt, because it took me 4-5 years before I saw a doctor about this problem. He could be lying, he could be not. Whatever the case, I am gonna let it slide cause people go through it. He said he is in a great place now so I can't wait to see him back on the court

I can’t get over how people feel bad for him 😂

Herder was on fire that night that’s wat he meant

Simmons: if You Don't have the mentality Skills to cope Seek treatment. You Need to Truly take care of Your state of mind first before you try to keep up with Your Peers in the fast pace Highly tuned Competitive sport that is the NBA. Not all Players can handle the pressures that come with the game & Gamesmanship along with commentary from the Media and the fans. So with that said sir Get Your Ass in Gear the Other NBA TEAMS/ PLAYERS DON'T REALLY OWE YOU ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE SOMEONE HURT YOUR FEELINGS BY WHAT THEY SAID Mr,O'NEAL WAS CORRECT WITH HIS GROW UP STATMENT. So if you don't feel mentality able to compete in life in general or the NBA push pause and get yourself into the best care facility for your best outcome that you can achieve the Choice is in Your Hands No One Can Do it for you if You Don't want to do it for YOURSELF

It means if any guy other than Trey had a high score it means the team can live with that. Those plans are common. That is not a shade to anyone guarding the other guy.

New media is just player propaganda especially if they don’t hold each other accountable 😅

Ben Simmons doesn’t understand Shaq/Chuck only speak like this now cuz he’s past the improvement stage where he’s regressed as a player and they can’t say he’s gotta improve anymore.

Let's do a free throw shootout! #paperview

Simmons is a clown and much of media are showing him so much understanding and love while Giannis who never got anything on silver plate is not "understanding game" no jump shot and countless of digs at him

15:50 is this shaqs family?

Shaq is completely right . These NBA players get glory, fame, money, etc. There has to be risk - if you suck, if you’re weak, if you don’t improve, you still get to keep most of those things but you don’t get the glory. Depressed? That’s fine but you’re not the type of person who deserves glory. Giannis deserves all the glory - Ben deserves none of it

People say Shaq should've reached out to Ben. Well, Magic Johnson and even Kobe Bryant reached out to Ben and offered to train with them. Now these are two of the greatest to ever do it and if they offered you to train with them, most people (myself included) would take them off of their offer. Training with them does not say you suck, but it is really saying that you have mad potential and they can help you elevate to that level. Giannis, Kawhi, and even Tatum all trained with Kobe and they all made it to the NBA Finals for the past few years. Guess what Ben did? Ben declined both Magic and Kobe's offers and now he's in the situation he is in now. Let's say Shaq would've reached out to Ben (not his responsibility, but it would've been nice) and offered him some advice and even trained with him? Would Ben listen? Probably not.

That was a cell phone in his pocket being cushioned with a Jersey

I think Simmons was way too focused on the dunk and it took away from the actual narrative behind the criticism. The issue was never about that one play. It was all about everything that came BEFORE it. It's a cop out.

Leave the man alone ❤ stop looking for drama.

Jalen Rose would know about who owes who an apology. He is the King of Apologies. 🙄

Many many people suffer in silence ….. I’ve seen it first hand people can Be acting a lot of the time , an next think u no their gone because people have told them to suck it up u don’t know wat people are going through mental health is a real thing Just cause u ar rich an have the world at yr feet doesn’t mean anything

Shaq says work on your game When did Shaq work on his game 😂 Kobe literally talked about his work ethic shaq is a hypocrite in these conversations 💯

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Very true! Idk if it was Kobe that said it, but I know someone said that if Shaq took the game more seriously, he'd have 10 rings

@prince_kash22

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 kobe did say shaq would have more.

@Rieky22

Жыл бұрын

Shaq is an all time great regardless and is a winner he has the right to talk shit Ben hasn’t won anything or achieved anything Shaq did soo…🤷🏿‍♂️😂

@prince_kash22

Жыл бұрын

@@Rieky22 yeah but In my opinion shaq of all people shouldn't tell anyone to work on their game when he never worked on his.

@Rieky22

Жыл бұрын

@@prince_kash22 “never worked on his game” Ik he was kinda lazy but he’s one of the most dominant players in history the fact he “didn’t work” on his game but 2x Scoring Champ 4x NBA Champ 14x All-NBA 1992-93 All-Rookie 1992-93 ROY 3x All-Defensive 3x AS MVP 3x Finals MVP 1999-00 MVP NBA 75th Anniv. Weather y’all like it or not Shaq can talk his shit.

Isn't he suppose to be australian?

I'm with Shaq in almost everything, he disrespects Tommy because "I don't know who you are" that doesn't sound fair.

@tooforwon241

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was petty of Shaq

@jonathansykes4986

Жыл бұрын

@@tooforwon241 Shaq is super petty.

If you can see the jersey you can see the number you can’t see the number you can still see the man don’t need to see someone’s face when you can determine you got a good 10 inches on them also kinda weird for a great passer to have such limited vision especially with the passes you be pulling off Personally I believe a combination of low confidence and the want to make a highlight reel we’re the determining factor I seen how he did that pass and wanted to do a no look walk away he wanted to the feel praise Gotta wait for the whole story to come out for things to be confirmed or denied so I’m not pressing him but the game 4 situation with Brooklyn just made it worse “I’ll play Monday” “I’m not playing Monday” the status of his injury is murky we know he had surgery and that’s it but he felt good enough to play then his team loses the next game and all of a sudden he can only be on the sidelines dressed like Willy Wonka I’ll drop the whole game 3-4 fiasco if I can see medical records fully explaining the injury so I can know more than just “back pain” but I can’t just 100% back with a lack of evidence If the medical records dropped or someone got some more information please tell me because I’m getting tired of this situation and don’t even wanna give it time anymore

Seriously, why do you all "want to see Ben Simmons grow from this"? He was being given everything he needed to be one of the greats by this point. But chose to not do any of it. You all are proving him right. His premise has been "why should I do anything I don't want to, I'm getting paid either way." And the fact he has people rooting for him, when he has almost certainly, single-handedly, caused pay-for-play to become part of future PBA negotiations.

You can't take 36M a year and say you have no responsibility. Mental health? Yep, then give the money back. You have to perform.

It’s so weird how this guy has just unravelled his whole career all by himself. And now he has to rebuild playing in Brooklyn? With the NYC press? Playing next Kyrie?

If your dealing with mental health and its that bad step away from the game , and go out in life to heal or whatever.

Who is more thin skinned than Shaq? Can anyone mention Shaq and the Magic getting swept by the Rockets without him saying “ok Chuck keep it up, and where’s your Ring?

Ben’s problem is he too arrogant to understand that he has a problem

One of the problems with Ben - a triple double player doesn’t help the team when championships. Let alone LOW number triple doubles. Championship teams have players who know their roles and excel. Triple doubles are so overrated. Look where Russ has been in his career, never been to a finals. Luka May end up being an exception because he has extremely HIGH number triple doubles that actually make a difference. And he has leadership and tenacity. Ben has skated on “potential” through college and the NBA.

Damn this video made me love Shaq even more. That dude Is a hero of mine! No bs with that guy. Analysts should speak facts and accountability.

The reason we all mad is ben got those genetics gifts but seems to be afraid of success and that drives people to short to slow to achieve their game dreams feel hes trowing it all away

Sounds like he had LuMbAgO!

And that said practice he was not participating in

3:50 How'd he see Trae? He's a whole foot taller than him. Trae's not even in his line of sight.

@Treadston3

Жыл бұрын

The whole jersey shit is BS. He's got 9 inches on Trae Young. The only thing he could've seen when spinning wasn't gonna be no damn jersey, it was gonna be Trae's hair-stuck-on-lollipop haircut, and that should've been instantaneously recognizable.