Shaq beefed with Bill Walton because he doesn't believe Walton's on his level
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Shaquille takes the brotherhood of big men very seriously. He has nothing but admiration for the NBA centers he views as true greats. Well, Bill Walton doesn't rank among those greats, according to Shaq, so over the years, when Walton has used his platform to criticize O'Neal ... Shaq has fired back. At times, it's gotten pretty beefy.
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seth back
@notdudleezy
10 ай бұрын
SETH BACK🗣️‼️
@bignoob24
10 ай бұрын
seth back 😊
@maralorca6518
10 ай бұрын
Seth back... to the Mavs for the 3rd time 😂
@pimpdaddyc7066
10 ай бұрын
Pls don't leave
@br__uh
10 ай бұрын
YESSS
My takeaway from every beef history involving Shaq is the same: big fella is super sensitive and insecure even though he’s accomplished so much in his career
@synapse913
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is such an emotional lesbian.
@sidhartabuenos7939
10 ай бұрын
Very much so
@Ccthomas-ks1hn
10 ай бұрын
Lol pretty much. Dudes a man child
@SaltoDaKid
10 ай бұрын
@@synapse913lmao wow did you come up with that 😂 like that joke has never been said thousand of time
@HenryIceman117
10 ай бұрын
Too much ego, the greatest greats don't need to tell everyone they're great.
Shaq’s such a strange character. Very charitable and philanthropic, by all accounts a decent man to most people. Yet so wildly insecure and defensive he’ll essentially bully people until he feels safe.
@SaltoDaKid
10 ай бұрын
He’s a big child he’s quick to his emotions, if you read about Shaq you would know he’ll been much worst without his stepfather. Shaq is good guy but he lets his emotions take over.
@CrazyxEnigma
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is nuanced.
@neil8lin
10 ай бұрын
Which is exactly why Kobe hated him because instead of trying to improve himself he’d chill and not try until playoffs come.
@GiveMeYourFACE9089
10 ай бұрын
His philanthropy, no matter how well intentioned and/or helpful, is no doubt fueled by a desire to make himself look better.
@scarfaceplays6297
10 ай бұрын
He's a 50 year old child period. 😂
I just want to remind people that Bill Walton did not just 'sit at the end of the bench' in Boston when they won the '86 championship. He played 80 games during the regular season and 16 games during the playoffs, 19 minutes per game during the regular season and 18 minutes per game during the playoffs. Bill Walton also won the 6th man trophy during that very same season.
@KClouisville
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, they definitely underplayed how good he was for that Celtics team....he actually took a great, championship team, to a new level. Things don't always show up in stats....if you watched that team Walton could seal up the paint on defense and when he was in the ball movement and flow of the offense was a thing of beauty.
@ravinodyab7725
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the context
@dnx112
10 ай бұрын
Hatem
@Boofbonic
10 ай бұрын
Exactly, I mean the dude was 7ft tall in the 70s where these guy were pretty much forced to play through all sorts of injuries, its no wonder he was only able to fully play 2 seasons of his career and won both a FMVP and a Reg MVP in both those years. That MVP alone makes him an all time great player/hall of famer. But him being top 75 I can understand not liking though.
@siircartiier
10 ай бұрын
hell yea bill walton the most high
R.I.P Mr Walton sometimes we get caught up in petty arguments instead of coming together.
"Shaq's arrogance is an insult to people who think" is damn near poetic lol.
@jwyh4162
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is gonna watch this vid. And then he's gonna have beef with Beef History.
@ryanlittle3165
10 ай бұрын
had to write this one down fr😂
@robertcrist124
10 ай бұрын
The illest thing in this video lol
@fredflux2738
10 ай бұрын
Shocking- but Shaq punched above his weight with Bill.
@MasterE131
10 ай бұрын
@@jwyh4162😂
Shaq telling Walton to respect his elders is wild, considering Bill hooped professionally before Shaq was even born 😂
@thebestcentaur
10 ай бұрын
That absolutely sounds like something Shaq would say 😂😂😂
@cronoros
10 ай бұрын
Shaq telling anyone to respect anyone is wild 😂
@kylethomas2993
10 ай бұрын
Walton was drafted 2 years after Shaq was born
@smoothjb2384
10 ай бұрын
I remember when little Shaq was just a swimming in my sack waiting to get out and grab a basketball. He wasn’t super skilled didn’t have to work hard he was just physically bigger and badder than everyone. If he woulda had a good work ethic been decent at free throws imagine he woulda been that much more dominant
@RKWDBMX
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is such a clown
As big as Shaq is, he has the temperament of a 15 year old high school cheerleader. But yeah, a healthy Bill Walton is probably an all time top-five center. The Trailblazers were (easily) cruising to their second straight championship in 1978 before Bill went down.
@mongoslade277
10 ай бұрын
I was a Seattle SuperSonics fan & you're absolutely right. Portland was 35-6 midway through the season. 50-10 when Walton got hurt. No way was Seattle or anyone else beating them
@scottodonnell7121
8 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 and another sweep of the Lakers
Bill Walton had an incredible run in Portland and another amazing comeback with Boston. Add sixth man award to his career. That in and of itself is a great accomplishment. Shaq's beef was from Walton saying nicely that he needed to loose weight which is true. Shaq looked like a whale at the end of his career.
@canalesworks1247
7 ай бұрын
That's all Kobe was saying too.
@stevelundt6498
3 ай бұрын
Bill Walton should not be in the HOF. he was good 3 seasons out of “ahem” 10. Never averaged over 20 pts. No way is he a 75 anniversary team player.
@joshuachang5210
14 сағат бұрын
@@stevelundt6498Peak precedes longevity, and as a top 5 passing big of all time, top 10 defender all time, and giving you about 18 points, Walton has a top 20-30 peak in league history. Think bill russell with a better offensive impact.
Shaq is clearly a Beef Hall of Famer he might need his own playlist at this point
@KWCline91
10 ай бұрын
GBE: Greatest Beefer Ever!
@insuchaway
10 ай бұрын
Dude...the Beef HOF is a definite playlist.
@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
10 ай бұрын
The way he dose tv interviews just to talk beef is so crazy, most of the other BH vids feel like newspaper clippings and here say
@TheIcemanthomas
10 ай бұрын
Wilt had his fair share of beefs as well. The two biggest guys but two of the most insecure of the top tier greats. He always hated on Kareem, Russell, MJ, Magic, and a few others. No disrespect to Big Dipper tho. He’s still the man. RIP.
@zackbennett5609
10 ай бұрын
Him and Sir Charles are mad trash talkers almost to the point of being haters
It’s amazing how everyone of Shaq’s beefs are with someone that admired him and wished for his best. Dude took the sentence “don’t meet your idols” to heart.
@lovinv08
10 ай бұрын
Didn't think of that crazy
@KClouisville
10 ай бұрын
Because he's one of those people who's fine with you as long as you agree with everything he says and does and tell him what he wants to hear.....the minute you don't he goes into toddler mode. He's always been like that and still is really.
@ianAEF
10 ай бұрын
@@KClouisville I think sometimes that's not even the case. Like Dwight Howard was a real fan of Shaq, had him as his idol and modelled his play after him, and when people pointed some similarities and said the word "superman", Shaq just went ballistic on the dude, taking away from whatever he did. Javale was similar too, Shaq just went after the guy for being a big that wasn't a star like him. It feels kinda sad actually, imagine getting into the league to have your idol bash you constantly and you're not even that bad.
@stevenscummy1458
10 ай бұрын
At least he only beefs with big men though, outside of Kobe and maybe small things with other teammates that aren't long lasting, I only hear about Shaq having long term beef with other bigs. Dwight thought he was doing a cool tribute with his superman dunks and Shaq took that as a challenge to one of his nicknames, then there's Bill Walton obviously, Javale McGee
@lovinv08
10 ай бұрын
@@stevenscummy1458 penny
For someone that claims to have been raised by a disciplinarian and also claims to hate bullies, Shaq really is just the exact opposite of disciplined and respectful. Dudes that bully that wants to be the most liked in the room at anyone else’s expense and will snap at the smallest amount of fight from anyone.
@thedangerwich5476
10 ай бұрын
You’re spot on. He alternates between the most wholesome respectful nice guy in the world to extreme petty and bully. This is the same man who has admitted he had to literally create a fictitious beef in his head with David Robinson to motivate himself to go against him. Shaq has admitted he was a bully, even as a youngster. He has said that an experience snapped him out of it as a kid, but it seems he has still kept those same tendencies even as an adult.
@kofig8357
9 ай бұрын
Bro Shaq literally beat a kid so bad he went to the hospital and always tells that story
@scottodonnell7121
8 ай бұрын
@@thedangerwich5476 he said he beat a kid into an epileptic seizure and left him there convulsing in the dirt.
Shaq was one of the most unstoppable players... for about 8 or 9 years and his lack of growth (and willingness to grow) kind of produced the super ugly decline (the last 8 years) at the end of his career. Imagine how good he could have been if he hit free throws and knew the entire game (not just his game) better.
@canalesworks1247
7 ай бұрын
I remember just before Kobe died , this was after that one on one video they did where they buried the hatchet, Kobe said that if Shaq had worked out the way he did they would have won 12 rings together. Then Shaq got pissed and started posting a bunch of pics of himself destroying people in the paint saying "Does this look lazy?" Kobe's answer to it was "No. It looks...dominant." I love Shaq. He brought 3 rings to the Lakers and was the most dominant force in the NBA when he was at his peak. That being said his refusal to work out and watch his weight WAS the reason that he and Kobe fell apart, even though he also called Kobe the "greatest player on the planet" during that same period. Kobe gets endless hate for a number of things but the break up with Shaq is key among them. Perhaps this beef with Walton will have people see Kobe's side of the beef with a little more clarity. (I realize I put Kobe and beef together... I think I'll have steak tonight.)
@tednguyen7258
14 сағат бұрын
no one can stop shaq...greatest center of all time
I know Shaq has been in a few "beef history" episodes, but I wasn't expecting one with Bill Walton 😂
@kylebenbow431
10 ай бұрын
We get all Shaq's beef except his one with Kobe (RIP)
@kenrickeason
10 ай бұрын
@@kylebenbow431 I know Shaq can get carried away with his sensitivity but Kobe (R.I.P) was very wrong in that beef..
@kylebenbow431
10 ай бұрын
@@kenrickeason A lot of ego + a very bad police interrogation = disaster. Could be a 2 parter. At the very least, they made peace later in life and recognized each of their wrongs.
@PIP...33
10 ай бұрын
@@kylebenbow431 REAL BEEF WAS DURING 50 GOAT !! WALTON SAID : SHAQ IS ONLY 3 YEARS IN NBA , DOMINIQUE IS 15 YEARS !! THAT SAME NIGHT WALTON TOLD EVERYONE SHAQ AND MJ ARE GREAT IN 90S ERA BUT WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS ONLY GUY IN THIS CEREMONY WHOS GOAT AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS THAT WHEN HE ENTER.
@youngblood4127
10 ай бұрын
Walton was absolutely the better overall player:
*Other NBA players are successful* Shaq: "And I took that personally."
@nickhughes8179
10 ай бұрын
And I got Rings!!! Google me Other NBA Players!!
For a man as big as Shaq, the smallest words seem to offend him
@ch.illmatic
5 ай бұрын
Mr sensitive
The Portland championship was the most dominant display of a center by Walton I’ve ever seen. Chocolate thunder was so frustrated he yanked the toilets out of his locker room
No-one can argue that Shaq is the most insecure centre of all time
@davidprice4777
10 ай бұрын
AMEN
@Trxllz
10 ай бұрын
100%
@aleksjamnik5360
10 ай бұрын
Yeah wilt pretty close tho
@acpliego
10 ай бұрын
@@aleksjamnik5360definitely
@jayrod1340
10 ай бұрын
Idk Embid really insecure Ayton really insecure Kat and Gobert really insecure
There's nothing surprising about Shaq beefing with another renowned NBA center 😂
@fortynights1513
10 ай бұрын
People should nickname Shaq the King of Beef.
@juanrr6822
10 ай бұрын
Stop over commenting, dude
@MrOctober44
7 ай бұрын
@@juanrr6822Stop under commenting dude
Came back here as soon as I heard the news. RIP Bill Walton.
Bill Walton was an absolute BEAST!! His NBA career was cut short but he won 2 Championships one of which he was the number one option and won League and finals MVP. Shaq is more accomplished but Walton is VERY underrated.
@canalesworks1247
7 ай бұрын
The only thing that stopped Walton was that freakishly bad health. He's the most underrated center of all time.
@padenK
3 ай бұрын
I believe Bill Walton was the most talented big man to play the game. If only he could have stayed healthy. Walton’s IQ on the court was off the charts. Even John wooden and Jack Ramsey put Walton at the top center
@zachmartin1458
2 ай бұрын
@padenK Walton's prime was as good if not better than any center to play the game. It's just that his prime lasted about 150 games or so.
Shaq made some decent points but he missed the most important one. Walton has already been stamped by his OGs so the discussion is over. If Russell, Wilt, and Kareem says Walton is one of them, Walton is one of them. Sadly, a large part of Shaq's legacy will be about how much of his talent he wasted.
@dusk6159
10 ай бұрын
Just Wilt and Russell* the great KAJ is his peer and Walton swept prime KAJ in his juggernaut college days
@theinktician
10 ай бұрын
@@dusk6159 How could he sweep KAJ in college if they both went to UCLA...I think you're confused
@dusk6159
10 ай бұрын
@@theinktician My bad I meant young Walton and young Kareem while both already in the league.
@kray97
10 ай бұрын
Shaq could have been the best of them all, but he was lazy. Think how good he could have been if he had a work ethic like Kobe.
@atlien1988
10 ай бұрын
@@kray97 Shaq ended up with more championships & career points than all of them except Kareem (points & chips), Wilt (points), & Russell (Chips).
Mr. Big Sensitive for sure. 😅
Walton can now haunt Shaq.
At least Walton won a title as the best player on his team. Every time Shaq made the finals, he was #2 on his team. Penny, D Wade, and Kobe were the better players in all his finals appearances.
Bill walton is honestly one of the most unique stars in league history a finals mvp and league mvp that never truly reached his prime how many players can say that
@gricius
10 ай бұрын
there's many stars that didn't reach their prime. I agree with Shaq. Bill probably shouldn't be in HOF, and nobody seems to question it. Only a couple of great seasons, whilst in other seasons he played between 30-50 games.
@gagemartin7207
10 ай бұрын
@@griciusI mean it counts college too and Walton is arguably the best college basketball player ever
@sidhenihilist
10 ай бұрын
Derrick Rose for the same reasons unfortunately.
@dondenny8842
10 ай бұрын
@@sidhenihilist the ring separates the two but yes exactly my thoughts
@verynice7367
10 ай бұрын
@@griciuslol if tmac with a terrible career is in the hall of fame then Bill Walton gets in with no difficulty
I’m starting to think Shaq’s the problem 😅
@RKWDBMX
10 ай бұрын
hahaha starting
@Rcb4th
10 ай бұрын
When you beef with everyone else, you may be the problem
@jluchette
10 ай бұрын
“You are the common factor in all of your failed relationships.” I love that quote! But the psych/major social worker in me has to point out how it’s an incorrect way to think about relationships. Sometimes when a relationship fails, you share the blame with the other party. This is of course the most common. Sometimes it truly is ALL your fault, you did something unforgivable. And on the opposite end, sometimes you do nothing wrong, and the other party screws up royally. So, saying “you’re the common factor in all of your failed relationships with other humans” is technically true, but it’s true by default. YOUR relationship can’t EXIST without YOU being a factor. So it’s “technically” true but doesn’t stand up to the most basic logical argument. Fun to say tho.
@wvu05
10 ай бұрын
@@jluchette True, but if someone tends to end up either in toxic relationships or having beef with everyone, maybe that person's contribution is looking for the wrong kind of person. I have a relative who complained to me about always ending up with cerifiably crazy women, and I said that maybe there was something about that type that was drawing him in.
@Beowulf45
10 ай бұрын
@@Rcb4th He's only beefed with Bill Walton, Kobe Bryant, JaVale McGee, and Dwight Howard...hmm, I think I see your point. 😂 (Did I miss anyone?)
I read Phil Jacksons book and understand Shaqs psychology super well because I had a teammate who went really far and almost touched the NBA and he had the same exact mentality. It's like a switch in his head where he goes from generally nice and well meaning to "break you down" mode. I remember watching our AAU B-Team essentially and our other center was having a good game, and all of the sudden my boy's got stank face and hes like "dont compliment that boy for nothing he aint shi ima have to break that boy down"
@tomtik101
10 ай бұрын
What's the motivation behind that mindset? Where does it stem from?
@voiceofreason2674
10 ай бұрын
@@tomtik101 I'm the biggest in the room and you gotta bow down to me don't criticize My technique when all y'alls advice boils down to is be the biggest in the room. Somebody like Walton who is roughly as big as Shaq nitpicking set him off and flipped that switch from team player to pure hater.
@voiceofreason2674
10 ай бұрын
@@tomtik101 Phils book says that he took Shaqs side in every argument versus Kobe cuz kobe was basically telling him to play big and what is Shaq supposed to do? Grow bigger? Nah you treat a big man with kid gloves or risk damaging his ego
@chauvintookaknee4blm268
8 ай бұрын
@@voiceofreason2674black fragility
@Oly1y
7 ай бұрын
Was your teammate also a baby who couldn't handle criticism?
Walton won a rebounding title, a block title, and had two 1st team all-defense selections. Shaq has a total of (checking notes, oh right) 0 for all of those things. Also, Walton matched Shaq's MVP total, which is understandable for how shortened his prime was, but not understandable for Shaq, really. In fact, it's downright pitiful for someone who played so long with his physical gifts. So Bill did some things Shaq never did, which are the hallmarks of all the greatest centers. (Which other of the greatest centers never won a rebound or a block title, and never made 1st team all-defense?) Walton's team won four straight against Kareem's Lakers (when Kareem was league MVP), and then four straight against Dr. J's 76ers (after going down 0-2 in Philly). Shaq is tied for being swept the most times in NBA playoff history.
@Theterminato2013
8 ай бұрын
@TheEsquireofSports.2.0Just because you’re more skilled, doesn’t make you better. If that’s the case, Arvydas Sabonis is the GOAT center and Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady are better than Kobe Bryant.
@Theterminato2013
8 ай бұрын
@TheEsquireofSports.2.0If you replace Shaq with Bill Walton on those Magic teams, his ass would get swepted by Hakeem and Michael Jordan also.
@JulioLeonFandinho
8 ай бұрын
@@Theterminato2013 that's what people thought in 1977 Besides, Shaq had Kobe, who had Walton? good players , great teammates in Portland, but no HoFer
@alaeus2310
8 ай бұрын
@@Theterminato2013 If there was someone that could defend Hakeem when healthy, that's Walton. Granted, defending Hakeem in the post is like trying to double Jokic. You might succeed, once or twice, but the other 15 times you try you'll get creamed.
@spunkhead
8 ай бұрын
Shaq doesn't know the history like we do...
Shaq is like NBA Hulk Hogan. Lots of fans and accolades but also a reputation for having a terrible ego and burying his peers
@megusta288
10 ай бұрын
accurate comparison tbh except that is a better person overall lmao
@nicholastricarico2957
10 ай бұрын
@@megusta288Especially considering that Hulk Hogan was the one who ratted out Jesse Ventura and the rest of the wrestlers who were trying to unionize during the 80's, and was subsequently rewarded with all of the fame and attention he could handle.
@whatwelearned
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is mother Teresa compared to that sack of rat droppings
@mesame121489
10 ай бұрын
@@whatwelearnedI get what you are trying to say but Mother Teresa was worse than all of the people mentioned lol
@JayCity10
10 ай бұрын
Exactly, Mother Teresa was evil.
Putting Carmen Electra with those 0 MVPs and 0 Championships had me rolling 😂
@sdelmonte
10 ай бұрын
And where is she now? It's all about the ringz!
@fraz72
9 ай бұрын
I guess she was getting dunked in ..oops I meant dunked on 😂😂😂
It's weird because of all the sports commentators out there, Walton was the MOST qualified to criticize Shaq. It's a wonder Shaq ever was able to get into broadcasting if he holds grudges against anybody who ever said anything bad about his performances.
@Gixsir
6 ай бұрын
That’s why…. because he is the most qualified it just makes shaq more insecure
Shaq has always been a child. I love the fact that the modern generation of players hate him because of his takes on them.
Shaq is the 50 Cent of sports beefs 😂
@arizonaFIREent
10 ай бұрын
Both were underachievers
@GOODMuzikBoi
10 ай бұрын
@@arizonaFIREenthow?
@MazeDaGr8
10 ай бұрын
Without the 9 bullet holes
@kaminsod4077
10 ай бұрын
@@GOODMuzikBoiThere's a decent contingent of people who think Shaq could've been the undisputed GOAT center if he had taken more after Kobes insane work ethic instead of relaxing and chilling in the offseason. They're probably right, but it's still a what if.
@Dollar-zb2ik
10 ай бұрын
Thats a lazy comparison
Shaq being sensitive and petty?!! Nooooooo, who would have thought!
Loved the Carmen Electra stat line 😂
Healthy Walton > Shaq. Higher BB IQ
Walton's inclusion on the list is mostly a nod to his absolute peak. In those 18 months in the late 70's he legitimately was the best player in the league. Absolutely insane on the court and the first person to be better on the court than the godlike Kareem at the time. Sad he was never able to keep it up, but because those heights are so hard to reach, he's given credence.
@chrissullivan6572
10 ай бұрын
If you haven't watched it, Thinking Basketball has a Greatest Peaks series and the Walton episode is great. I never questioned him but that episode really made me look at him even better.
@MrKT410
10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure he was ever better than Kareem was he was certainly Top 2
@CrazyxEnigma
10 ай бұрын
The Trailblazers ruined Walton and have been paying for that decision ever since.
@username-mf4mu
10 ай бұрын
@@MrKT410he swept kareem and outplayed him in his championship season for me he was for atleast one season
@thisguy8106
10 ай бұрын
He "couldn't keep it up" bc he had a hairline fracture in his foot and played through it..while dominating! Had Walton played in today's game.. the hairline fracture would've been diagnosed and he couldve been healed. But sadly..he played in a time when injuries like that couldn't be diagnosed.
Bill Walton was a very good player, both as a star player and as a role player. Walton's performances with the Blazers and Celtics were incredible.
@kenrickeason
10 ай бұрын
If only injuries stayed away from Walton.. He would have more rings on his fingers.. The talent was there 100% the injuries held the talent back..
@wvu05
10 ай бұрын
He is definitely the greatest What If in the NBA. If his body held up, he'd definitely be on the shortlist for greatest ever.
@explorewithme4707
10 ай бұрын
But definitely not hall of fame worthy…
@lawrencebrodsky8894
10 ай бұрын
@@wvu05 Yes but Shaq is right because his greatness ended with that first major foot injury. He does not merit hof based on longevity. Walton not only player in hall like that.
@Gnofg
10 ай бұрын
@@explorewithme4707 Go listen to Jerry West on the dan patrick show yesterday. Walton is immediately mentioned by Jerry as one of the best.
Bill Walton used to compliment Shaq a lot when he did commentary on NBC games
@forestgump8357
3 ай бұрын
Walton gushes over everybody, that is just his personality, but for several years Shaq was all that.
Just saw TNT and was so glad Shaq got over himself and finally squashed his beef with Bill Walton. It means alot that Shaq admit he was being sensitive ❤️ RIP Bill Walton.
@bpthegreatt
6 сағат бұрын
It was phony
@hawkeye0378
5 сағат бұрын
He called bill Walton trash last month
This seems like an interesting beef but now these two are now analyst. Good to hear Seth again. Been a while but now you're back. You're the man, Seth.
@Gnofg
10 ай бұрын
Shaq can be funny but a pretty bad analyst as far as the finer points of the game. His only comment is usually man up and play better. Not exactly Einstein there.
@Kap_NYC
10 ай бұрын
@@GnofgVery true tbh
@jamesmarshall6619
10 ай бұрын
@@Gnofg precisely, he's one of the worst analysts out there in any sport. He's good on TNT at making the telecast fun, he's actually okay and quite good at times discussing more how to players should conduct themselves on the court, stand up for themselves or one another, but like you said, finer points of the game, lazy as they come. He's more of a fun personality to have on tv and not really an analyst.
@borklazer
10 ай бұрын
The Inside the NBA crew was better without Shaq. He’s fine now, but he is absolutely the Ringo there.
David Robinson had the best comeback about shaq. when asked about shaqs book he said what is it a picture book?
@maxmeier532
10 ай бұрын
lolz. Poor david, wasnt he the victim of Shaq's lie about how he didnt sign him an autograph when he came to shaq's school?
@dusk6159
10 ай бұрын
Walton and the Admiral hit him where it hurts lol
@blackwidowsm
9 ай бұрын
The admiral had to put up with lies about his character from Shaq. Years later. All Shaq said was kidding… A man of David’s character that simply won’t due. If there dueling was still legal. This would have been pistols at 10 paces. Really wonder who Shaq could get to stand as a second? He burnt so many bridges. Everyone was on the Admirals side. He truly was one of the great Centers a complete two way monster.
May 27, 2024 Shaq: "Walton doesn't deserve eulogies."
Rest In Piece Bill Walton.
Bill Walton is a vegetarian and Shaq has done the vegan/vegetarian thing so this is the first episode of plant based imitation beef
@Gnofg
10 ай бұрын
My money says Shaq dies young from being overweight.
@jamaali2358
10 ай бұрын
@Gnofg how disrespectful
@Gnofg
10 ай бұрын
@@jamaali2358 I’m just going on what happens to overweight people. Charles Barkley’s doctor told him that you don’t see old fat people because they die early and that is why Charles is on Ozempic. Furthermore the height where your size impacts your longevity is 6’3”. Look it up. Being 7’3 and overweight is a recipe for a early exit.
The funny thing to me is that Shaq says way worse about the young guys in the league today than it seems like Bill Walton ever said about him. lol
@CrazyxEnigma
10 ай бұрын
Oh Bill Walton said worse things than shown here specifically when calling games. Beef History often misses things that add more context. Nearly every vid I see commenters bring things up that should've been mentioned but aren't.
@thedangerwich5476
10 ай бұрын
That’s because Shaq is a massive hypocrite
@thedangerwich5476
10 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigmaI mean….examples please?
@CLYMA1.5CHAINZ
9 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigmaimagine being mad about a nickname. And at the mention of Rick Fox 😂
RIP Bill Walton.... I bet Shaq will still find something to hate about the Big Redhead and will make it about himself when he gets a chance to talk about Bill Walton.
You say Walton kept talking about shaq, but he mostly was positive. Only went after shaq a couple times
Had Shaq actually taken Walton's advice on dieting, the NBA world would be so much better right now 😂
@RVered
10 ай бұрын
Shaq would've definitely gotten at least a few more healthy, prime-formed seasons had he controlled his weight. His Orlando shape was ideal for him; this whole thing about him reaching his prime with the Lakers thanks to the weight gain is misleading, considering he could've focused on strength training and muscle mass rather than fat and gotten comparable or better results with far less overall mass. There's no magic in this world; no person can healthily carry so much weight while jumping, sprinting, and getting hit for hours daily.
@marquiseboyd282
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is in a class of his own take a dude advice that was average at best
@BrokeSpike
10 ай бұрын
@marquiseboyd282 Hall of famer, 2x champion, MVP, and FMVP is average?
@wvu05
10 ай бұрын
@@marquiseboyd282 Average at best? If you want to argue that Shaq had a better career than Walton, sure, but Walton at his peak was as good as anybody. The problem was that his peak just didn't last very long. And did you ever think that, just maybe, because of his experience, Walton knew how injuries could spiral and wanted Shaq to avoid that fate?
@Kennyisdarkvanilla
10 ай бұрын
@@marquiseboyd282this dude was able to give it to prime Kareem when healthy. Bill Walton is very underrated. May have been one of the best centers of all time if it was for injuries and Portland’s shitty medical team.
Shaq: I got 4 rings Chuck Chuck: you also got 4 player beefs (Walton, D-Rob, Kobe and Dwight)
@EverythingIsGuchi
10 ай бұрын
And JaVale McGee
@MOCdude
10 ай бұрын
@@EverythingIsGuchiI would consider that bullying 😅
@ivaneurope
10 ай бұрын
You forgot the time he beefed with his coach - Stan van Gundy
@AzureChild
10 ай бұрын
Him and Phil Jackson and I think him and Penny beefed
@MazeDaGr8
10 ай бұрын
& David Robinson
He has shown over and over on TBS that he is not that intelligent. Maybe that is the issue, Bill was very smart.
If there's anyone I would take advice from about foot and ankle injuries as a professional basketball center, it's Bill Walton. The man won two championships with the worst ankles in the NBA.
Anyone who knows anything about Shaq knows that unless you roll over for him at the slightest bit of disagreement, he will throw a fit over it and say some pretty bad takes about the whole thing. This is the dude who made up a fake beef, nothing is too petty for him.
@gobot581
10 ай бұрын
Lol you know Shaq or do you watch sports like the rest of us? Internet is a crazy place you really think you know this man.
@yonkel0
9 ай бұрын
@@gobot581 Pretty much yeah. It ain't rocket science to recognize a big baby and bully.
@markjackson6431
8 ай бұрын
@@gobot581 Shaq ADMITTED in an interview. that he made fake accusation against David Robinson. there isn’t a limit to where he will go
RIP Bill Walton
Every new Shaq Beef makes me look forward to the eventual 5-part hours-long series on Kobe vs Shaq
So shaq being sensitive once again?
Shaq is one of the most impactful big men ever, his resume is incredible. He’s done a TON of generous stuff off the floor too. And he’s also consistently been a bully. He spends some of his time knocking others down, rather than building his own achievements up. He always says he’s the master marketer - and the fact we talk about him confirms he gets people talking. But he gets people talking about him in a negative way. If he’s worried about his legacy on the floor being forgotten as other greats have also been minimised or forgotten, it’s totally understandable. But hounding people only makes people remember him negatively.
Bill won a championship and a Finals MVP for the franchise that drafted him, couldn't say the same for Shaq.
@kenkl5204
8 ай бұрын
Also did what Shaq couldn't. Lead a college team to champs.
Just heard what happened… RIP Bill Walton… 😢
Shaq is the most delicate flower to ever step foot on a basketball court, hands down.
dude, you say walton was a low minutes guy for the celtics - he freaking won 6th man of the year! he was a definite and notable contributor to that 86 celtics team.
@johnnythekid4601
9 ай бұрын
but of course the bronsexuals will argue he was the 6th man in an era of bums
The Carmen Electra pic with her stats had me dying😂
8:10 Shaq got some nerve telling Anybody they talk too much 😅😅
Bill Walton led a team to winning a championship by nearly his damn self.
@Greenfrom3
10 ай бұрын
Yep. I dare anyone to watch that series and not be amazed. He was like Jokic. However instead of scoring as much he got like 4 blocks a game and was an absolutely dominant defender.
@Charris2382
10 ай бұрын
@@Greenfrom3e played in a weak era. Plus the AbA and the NBA didn’t merge yet. So it wasn’t many games played back then. Bill was great in college but had a horrible NBA career. A lot of player have great first seasons but doesn’t make them a hall of a fame player.
@libertyaboveall5960
10 ай бұрын
@@Charris2382you're just chattin. Walton has one of the best peaks of all time and that's HOF worthy. Also arguments over era are stupid. I can't wait for the 2000s to be brought up as a weak era
@murphrichard
10 ай бұрын
@@Charris2382 Walton's first championship was in the first finals after the merger. The Blazers played against the sixers, lead by Julius Erving who was a former ABA player Also Walton was the finals mvp
@hippiehazy96
10 ай бұрын
@@Charris2382lmao you really thought you did somethin there 🤣
It has to be said however that Bill Walton's 1986 comeback was a catalyst to the Celtics winning the championship that year. What guy could play right away, limited minutes and produce in a way that made the Celtics win big games? He was subbing for Mchale and Parish. And still played a critical role in that championship season. A game changer. Not to mention his past Blazers glory.
Whatever editor threw those Carmen Electra stats up there for half a second needs a raise + paid vacation
Nothing is better than a surprise Beef History in the middle of the week
Eventually we will need a Beef History of Shaq vs. Himself.
seth rothensal is the best voice for these beef histories. nice video
RIP Big Bill
Shaq has always been the most dominant, not only in basketball, but also in pettiness.
Walton doesn’t get enough credit as it is, he was a great player. Injuries derailed his legacy.
@latinoheateddieguerrero7644
10 ай бұрын
The best ability is availability. Walton is overrated. Is Walton on the same level as Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Derrick Rose or Yao Ming? Or is Walton comparable to Greg Oden and Zion Williamson?
@benweider2658
10 ай бұрын
@@latinoheateddieguerrero7644he won mvp so same level as Yao and others
@n8tethegr8t20
10 ай бұрын
@@benweider2658 techincally bill above the level of grant and penny as they never won mvps
@jamalwalker
10 ай бұрын
@@latinoheateddieguerrero7644 he's kinda like derrick rose except he was actually having an MVP-level peak
@mongoslade277
10 ай бұрын
@@n8tethegr8t20Derrick Rose won the MVP. The youngest winner ever & has more than 6000 points. Bet he doesn't get in the Basketball HOF
I wonder how Shaq feels now since Bill Walton is gone.
I think most people who truly understand the basics of center play would agree that few centers have ever embodied the all-around skill set that Walton possessed. Shaq is often funny, but also many times just a hardheaded monster of a man who bullied his way to success. He was so big and so strong he rarely ventured from more than 7 feet from the basket. He is a bit insecure. I'll take the other guys any day over him. Akeem was another marvelous center with amazing athletic ability and a great persona, always smiling.
Shaq is a gift to beef enthusiasts everywhere
RIP BILL
That commercial with Kareem and Wilt is so cool.
Beef History hits different when Seth narrates
At this point, Shaq should have his own playlist on SB Nation.
Back in the early '70's, seeing Walton stats in the newspaper and reading about him, minus a photo, we all thought he was Black, following Alcindor. To start, Shaq never one a NCAA championship. Even late in Walton's career, he still was an excellent passer as he was at UCLA & Portland. His 2nd year, down 2-0 against the 76ers with Julius Erving, Chocolate Thunder & Maurice Cheeks in the NBA Finals, won 4 Straight to win the NBA Championship. Shaq went to the finals early but had to leave Orlando and join The Immortal and Phil to get his 1st ring. Mumbles was good but he played Bully-ball. Now that he has control of the mic, he SPEAKS Bully-Talk.
Yao Ming is in the hall of fame, but I don't recall Shaq ever having a problem with him. Ming scored at a higher rate than Walton over the course of his career, but I don't recall Ming being on championship winning teams or winning MVP awards or being the NBA's rebounding or blocks leader.
@RKWDBMX
10 ай бұрын
very good point.
@ghostfacekicker
10 ай бұрын
He played against Yao Ming and couldn’t body him like everyone else.
@16ktsgamma
10 ай бұрын
I think Shaq respected Ming.
@George_Fl0yd
10 ай бұрын
@@16ktsgamma idk he did say ching ching chong about him
@samuelstensgaard4828
10 ай бұрын
Except for that bit where he was racist
Please. We all know Shaq is Mr. Sensitive. This has been proven in TNT's Inside The NBA by Charles Barkley. 🤣
Rip Bill Walton! Shaq was actin a fool for this
I can't believe Shaq murdered Bill over nothing smh
If you are old enough to have seen Walton play in his prime, you'd know Shaq's crazy.
@serge014
10 ай бұрын
That prime was only two seasons
@chazzx1018
10 ай бұрын
Shaq is a loser, let's just say it. He had great teams and won. He didn't do it by himself.
@chazzx1018
10 ай бұрын
@@serge014 how many seasons did you have?
@0005cd
10 ай бұрын
Who cares if its 2 seasons. He won a ring, finals mvp and regular season mvp. How many people in the HOF played 10 plus years without getting one of those?
@anthonykemp276
10 ай бұрын
@0005cd on a team stacked with Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Robert Parrish, Dennis Johnson, not a big feat!
Seth talking about some beef....you know it's going to be a good day.
@FlowboyVegas1
10 ай бұрын
Pause
Great to have Seth back
I loved Bill Walton on that Trailblazer team however I had been saying the same thing! He is the only player in NBA history to make not only The Hall of Fame but the Top 75 of all time on what potentially he would have been if he wasn’t hurt as much!
@andreitaker3527
8 ай бұрын
I think it helps that on Bill Waltons Short Prime he won an MVP and A Championship on a 3 year stretch. There are people with longer career who made it to HOF that didn't come close to those things.
Walton easily could’ve been as good as or better than Shaq, but he literally couldn’t attempt a shot without getting hurt. There’s a fantastic video about the peak version of him in Portland by Thinking Basketball, it’s highly worth the watch. He was uniquely dominant during that time.
@bonystickmanking1250
10 ай бұрын
He wouldn't have been as good as shaq lets stop that discussion. But he would've entered that top 8 discussion in the center position (the most decorated position)
@Jarekthegamingdragon
10 ай бұрын
@@bonystickmanking1250 He absolutely could have been better than shaq. Walton was stupidly good when healthy.
@maxmeier532
10 ай бұрын
@@Jarekthegamingdragon "absolutely could have been better than shaq" is a ABSOLUTELY hypothetical and unprovable statement so why even make it. If I was 7 foot and could hoop I could have been the greatest ever. Now what.
@bonystickmanking1250
10 ай бұрын
@@maxmeier532 😭😭😭fax
@bonystickmanking1250
10 ай бұрын
@@Jarekthegamingdragon shaq was as pretty decent when healthy man, just pretty decent. Not the most dominant player ever with the best looking stats you could ever ask for any player while being the running engine in one of the greatest offensive schemes ever winning 3 rings in a row as the best player in the world 🤷🏾♂️
There was nothing like watching the NBA on NBC in the early 2000's when the Lakers were on and hearing Bill Walton say "Throw it down big man, Throw It dowwwwwn" after a thunderous Shaq dunk.
Thanks for listing Carmen Electra's NBA career breakdown, much appreciated.
Should someone be considered a "great" if their career was cut short by injuries? The answer has always been yes, if they were truly incendiary players. Gale Sayers was named to the all-time team, and only played four full years. Red Grange had a limited career. Same with Sandy Koufax. And same with Bill Walton. When he was healthy, he was in the conversation regarding the greatest center - he could do it all, on defense and offense.
I don't know what it is about Seth's narration style, but it's just so enjoyable to listen to.
How many beefs does Shaq have😭😭😭
@johnnietrieu2266
10 ай бұрын
Tons
@chazzx1018
10 ай бұрын
With every non black player in the league. He is a racist loser. He comes from Newark, so no suprise.
I may be too young to speak on this, but for me Bill Walton deserves to be on that list of top 10-15 greatest centers to lace up. 6000 points and 2 all stars are unbelievably low. Seeing him play, you know he definitely had that talent and ability to be that kind of guy and I bet if he'd played even a decade of healthy basketball he'd have 9 all-stars, 2 mvps, at least 20k points and hopefully more rings. We'll never get to see that and it sucks cuz I don't wanna hold that against him
It doesn't matter what Shaq thinks about Walton. It changes nothing.
@erics9754
8 ай бұрын
Walton would own fat Shaq in his prime the guy was a beast. People with experience and brains know not mess with a red head especially a 7 ft one lol.
Seth is back!! These are the best
Gee and what color is Walton?? Shaq “hated” Bird for no reason 🤔🤔🤔 It’s obvious what Shaqs problem is.
@ezsmith3765
10 ай бұрын
12:05 And again.....
Shaq had some very thoughtful words of contrition on Inside the NBA the other night.