Shaping a guitar neck with files and scrapers

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

Shaping a neck is all about feel.
Chelsea Clark learned from Dan Erlewine, and honed her skills on abandoned "project guitars" found on Craigslist and eBay. Chelsea shares some great tips on shaping the neck and preparing it for a finish.
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For more information on tools and parts:
Scraper Blades
www.stewmac.com/0654.html
Razor Files
www.stewmac.com/4161.html
Luthier's File Set
www.stewmac.com/0842.html
3M Gold Fre-Cut Sandpaper
www.stewmac.com/5096.html
File Cleaning Brush
www.stewmac.com/0825.html
Nut and Saddle Shaping Files
www.stewmac.com/4556.html
Dragon Hand-cut Rasp
www.stewmac.com/4151.html

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  • @DonCrowder
    @DonCrowder8 жыл бұрын

    I'm very grateful to StewMac for the opportunity to see accomplished professionals at work.

  • @hackerguitar
    @hackerguitar11 жыл бұрын

    The video is really excellent. The progression of work from using files to scraping to smoothing with sandpaper is very clear and well-illustrated. Thanks, Chelsea! Between you, Dan, and Erick, there's a whole curriculum of instrument repair.

  • @DerangedTechnologist
    @DerangedTechnologist8 жыл бұрын

    This is just outstanding -- excellent tool info, techwork, pointers/ideas/suggestions; nice clear explanation. Many thanks for posting it!

  • @stoltobot
    @stoltobot10 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad there are people out there who do this.

  • @wildgoobsid5
    @wildgoobsid59 жыл бұрын

    Just a tip from an old woodworking teacher. I learned (at the Nicholson factory) that all files should ONLY be used in the forward direction, not back and forth. Even on hardwood this can flatten out or dull a file quite quickly. You will find your files stay sharper longer. Great video and very helpful.

  • @katjoe1974

    @katjoe1974

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a commonly repeated myth and it simply isn’t true

  • @keithklassen5320

    @keithklassen5320

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out the video on KZread where a maker tests this myth; it's not even true on metal, nevermind wood. I always used to hear this idea, and was convinced it was true myself for a while, but here we are.

  • @imyouandurme
    @imyouandurme10 жыл бұрын

    "Seven strings and a Floyd Rose?!" -- That was the best part :)

  • @Milessongs
    @Milessongs11 жыл бұрын

    Great video! It's a pretty rare person who has the skills to do fine luthier work, but also talk about/describe it in a clear, concise way. More Chelsea Clark, please!

  • @RantzBizGroup
    @RantzBizGroup10 жыл бұрын

    "I hope I don't have to set it up!" BAHAHA, I'm with her!!!

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles9 жыл бұрын

    best video on the subject I've seen so far. Awesome.

  • @cheezervvvvv
    @cheezervvvvv10 жыл бұрын

    Well done Miss Chelsea. Knows what she is talking about and does it without talking down to viewers. Good sense of humor always a plus.

  • @NICKHAM16
    @NICKHAM169 жыл бұрын

    "7 strings and a Floyd Rose? I hope I don't have to set it up" couldn't agree with you more lol

  • @DrCowinabox

    @DrCowinabox

    9 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHA i bought a floyd rose guitar awhile ago, set it up, and then proceeded to sell it and swear i would never buy one again. pain in the butt :p

  • @JgHaverty

    @JgHaverty

    9 жыл бұрын

    DrCowinabox Not a floyd rose, and setting it up is pretty simple; much easier than setting up a vintage style trem *properly*.

  • @JgHaverty

    @JgHaverty

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** No doubt! Intonating any guitar sucks, lets be honest. But yeah, you definitely need that lock!

  • @JgHaverty

    @JgHaverty

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** Not everyone like tremolnos...

  • @ch0g0nda1

    @ch0g0nda1

    9 жыл бұрын

    NICKHAM16 Look up the Frudua method of setting a Floyd. They really don't take long to set up once you know the smart way to work.

  • @walterkersting9922
    @walterkersting99227 жыл бұрын

    The contrast in colors is very alluring.

  • @e.s.channel1526
    @e.s.channel15266 жыл бұрын

    I've got a 7-string FR. The first few string changes were really frustrating, but now I can replace the strings, adjust height, length and tune it in under half an hour. It's my therapy.

  • @hackerguitar
    @hackerguitar8 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Learned some things that I'll use in the shop. Thanks!

  • @wheatpuff
    @wheatpuff10 жыл бұрын

    Wow, cool. I learned a lot from this. I have been ordering parts from stew mac since before there was youtube. Glad to see they have a channel with these instructional of videos.

  • @casey17w
    @casey17w6 жыл бұрын

    Great attention to detail. Beautiful work.

  • @slowjammerukdog
    @slowjammerukdog11 жыл бұрын

    Nice work, Chelsea. A star is born!

  • @rangerdoc1029
    @rangerdoc10296 жыл бұрын

    Some remarkable knowledge & skill being shared here. Thanks.

  • @71nortcomm
    @71nortcomm7 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful work.

  • @polynicient
    @polynicient Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Everything is explained very well.

  • @Ronvnvet
    @Ronvnvet10 жыл бұрын

    You're like a master craftsman! Good video and good job!

  • @kimohoganesq
    @kimohoganesq8 жыл бұрын

    Nice job!! Really good explanation of all you were doing! Thank you :)

  • @joepesci7629
    @joepesci76297 жыл бұрын

    You got some great skills! Thanks for the video.

  • @bobdimarzio3972
    @bobdimarzio39729 жыл бұрын

    real finesse work , takes a lotta patience

  • @MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods
    @MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this... I have a neck for a Jem that is 23mm thick that I want brought down to 18mm at the 1st fret. Gonna give it a go after watching this.

  • @trappenweisseguy27
    @trappenweisseguy278 жыл бұрын

    My favourite scraper is one I made myself from an old circular saw blade. Convex one side, concave the other. Carefully sharpened straight from a bench grinder it is thick enough and hard enough to remove serious material and the thickness means it doesn't heat up too much in use.

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur10 жыл бұрын

    I have never seen this work. Thank you for showing a noob how to shape a neck and using rasps and files the correct way!!

  • @swagedelic
    @swagedelic6 жыл бұрын

    who in the world would give a thumbs down??? this is a great tutorial, she is very skilled

  • @ALtheDoctorWho
    @ALtheDoctorWho7 жыл бұрын

    Thats a great trick water before sanding. I would not have thought of that. enjoyed the video Thanks for the tips.

  • @buckhorncortez

    @buckhorncortez

    7 жыл бұрын

    SOP in cabinet work if you're using water-based stains or finishes. If you don't wet the wood prior to final sanding, then the grain raises when you apply the stain or finish - and then you have a real problem dealing with the grain after you've stained the wood or applied the finish.

  • @majorgunn
    @majorgunn8 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant demo, nice work, ps I love that you clean your file....oh I don't have time to sharpen my chisel, AND your evolution from scraping FROM sanding, would suggest TO MY SHOP teacher of 35 years ago, WTF, scraper are golden, and why breath dust!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @donk9132
    @donk913210 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Chelsea...!

  • @dmanonbass
    @dmanonbass10 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Fantastic teacher.

  • @PLINKER
    @PLINKER7 жыл бұрын

    Great tips!

  • @Elric509
    @Elric5099 жыл бұрын

    I used annealed copper to clean my files, on account of how soft it is- really gets in between, although i don't know whether it would work on these smaller ones

  • @greyfoxplaysbass
    @greyfoxplaysbass11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this, picked up a few new tips but the best part's at the end, lol!

  • @Knosferatu
    @Knosferatu8 жыл бұрын

    Excellent job.

  • @MichaelPerez-eh3hx
    @MichaelPerez-eh3hx7 жыл бұрын

    Nice work, my wife and I are also in the woodworking world and she felt in love with the straight edge you used, and I would like to know what brand is it.

  • @sonicstep
    @sonicstep10 жыл бұрын

    Very good tutorial and a super personality.

  • @s4wgb
    @s4wgb11 жыл бұрын

    NICE work Chelsea. More please :-)

  • @thespanielinquisition7167
    @thespanielinquisition71675 жыл бұрын

    Great job Chelsea

  • @Goomer
    @Goomer8 жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @jeffwright4272
    @jeffwright427210 жыл бұрын

    She makes me smile!!

  • @WalterKerr
    @WalterKerr11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the helpful info.

  • @dementedbowine8681
    @dementedbowine86819 жыл бұрын

    wow nice work you raly take grat care of your files

  • @rb032682
    @rb03268211 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE. More videos with Chelsea.

  • @ragheb.ouergli
    @ragheb.ouergli8 жыл бұрын

    you make it look so easy

  • @gliblyaware
    @gliblyaware10 жыл бұрын

    Haha! All that awesome detail work and dreading the setup! ;-)

  • @fanoboss
    @fanoboss11 жыл бұрын

    Please post more videos on how to make the neck more playable and feel "broken-in". GREAT VIDEO !!!

  • @happycline
    @happycline10 жыл бұрын

    thanks! this is actually pretty much the part where I stopped my build at. think I'll finish it up soon as soon as work loosens up at least. lol :)

  • @laerteperr
    @laerteperr10 жыл бұрын

    Gostei muito da sua aula parabém bom trabalho . você e muito simpática .

  • @gullivergimeno1520
    @gullivergimeno15209 жыл бұрын

    wow...Awesome!!! Good job.

  • @deanmacka4975
    @deanmacka49756 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff,

  • @matrixmodulator
    @matrixmodulator4 жыл бұрын

    Cleaning superglue from the file, that must be fun hehe. Gain knob for the mic level is over 9000!!

  • @christophersmith6755
    @christophersmith675510 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Makes me want to start making guitars, but I like playing them too much for now...

  • @51nw
    @51nw5 жыл бұрын

    i wish i could take my guitars to her for maintenance etc. super cool

  • @e.r.559am7
    @e.r.559am78 күн бұрын

    This video is still great in 2024. Go Chelsea!

  • @JohnMirror2
    @JohnMirror210 жыл бұрын

    So nice!

  • @BCTGuitarPlayer
    @BCTGuitarPlayer4 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know if you’ll read this, but it was a lot fun watching you work. A good chuckle at the end, too;)

  • @stewmac

    @stewmac

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @coffindancer38
    @coffindancer383 жыл бұрын

    Best neck shaping tool in the world is a small spoke shave cast in one piece with a half inch wide blade and handles about 2 3/4 inches long. You can hold it between two fingers and the palm of your hand, you can glide it along and take a deep cut or just a tiny little shaving. The best part is you feel the cut and the neck shape with your hand the whole time your shaping. A quick sanding with 220 then 400 and youre done. Professional luthiers do so many things the absolute hard way it amazing to me to watch, sometimes i cant, i have to switch away.

  • @twistedshapeshifter
    @twistedshapeshifter10 жыл бұрын

    nice guitar :) great video.

  • @josecrane8925
    @josecrane89258 жыл бұрын

    thank you teaching good ideals

  • @stearman
    @stearman7 жыл бұрын

    Try a 1/4" round piece of bamboo to clean a file especially one with metal chips in it. I think you'll like it.

  • @MartinLopez-ys5dm
    @MartinLopez-ys5dm4 жыл бұрын

    Great work. I clean my files on a wire wheel. If gunk remains I do what you did.

  • @jonlag3000
    @jonlag300010 жыл бұрын

    Great video, as always! Does the scraping and 600 grit sandpaper get in the way of finishing the neck with oil/lacquer/etc.?

  • @smokey9397
    @smokey939711 жыл бұрын

    great job,thankyou!

  • @bpreece1
    @bpreece13 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get the Curved S Scraper can't find those anywhere....

  • @badbass1213
    @badbass12138 жыл бұрын

    great job, thx.

  • @Mouse6677
    @Mouse66777 жыл бұрын

    At 4:10 their are nicks in the wood, did you fix them or do they need to be left in???

  • @leomanl
    @leomanl11 жыл бұрын

    Really Nice video! I hope you show it when it's totally finished, if you get to do that?

  • @1964danielito
    @1964danielito10 жыл бұрын

    Did you apply polyurethane or nitrocellulose on back of neck ?

  • @SarcastSempervirens
    @SarcastSempervirens10 жыл бұрын

    great to see girls making guitars! :) great job!

  • @anotherheadlessdemo
    @anotherheadlessdemo9 жыл бұрын

    If I had half the skill of Dan and Chelsea I'd be happy.

  • @thewatcher1691
    @thewatcher16919 жыл бұрын

    is it possible to narrow the width of the neck, from the low E to high E? I prefer a thin narrow neck

  • @hillndale57
    @hillndale578 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. Try acetone to clean up files...it's quicker and easier on the file edges.

  • @IPushHard
    @IPushHard11 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid.

  • @grahamkelly8299
    @grahamkelly82994 жыл бұрын

    One of the most professional, and skilled I've seen on youtube

  • @GjergjMero
    @GjergjMero4 жыл бұрын

    Can I sand down safely a 7 string neck to make it somehow thinner? It's an LTD and not comfortable for my hands to play in standing position. Thank you in advance.

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher36627 жыл бұрын

    how do you get it perfectly symmetrical?

  • @AlexRamosDrTaz
    @AlexRamosDrTaz10 жыл бұрын

    BTW where's the lucky person that did the final setup? Any video of that, Dan?

  • @Xcorgi
    @Xcorgi8 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why there are so many comments that are in disbelief that there are female techs out there. When I was working for Ford Motor Co. they had a class we could pay for where the former guitar tech for The Eagles (she spent 20yrs with them) was there to show us how to build and set up our own Carvin kit guitars. Not just that but how to dress and polish the frets as well as clear coat the bodies. I can't remember her name but she was amazing. We were also allowed to bring in our own personal guitars to learn the specific setups for Strats, Teles, Gibsons, and Floyd Rose tremolo set ups.

  • @MrAletube

    @MrAletube

    5 жыл бұрын

    that's because in many countries women are not even allowed to ride a bycicle,they're just in to make babies. That said,women are very good in super detailed and repetitive work,not a rule,just give them a chance to show what they are good at.

  • @michaelwurn6268

    @michaelwurn6268

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrAletube Umm they"re pretty much good at everything a man can do not just "super detailed and repetitive work" I doesn't take muscle to lift things either, just intelligent planning.

  • @Azathoth43

    @Azathoth43

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've not seen a single comment saying anything related to her being a female. You just made that up.

  • @AllenPinchloaf
    @AllenPinchloaf7 жыл бұрын

    Is Chelsea in Los Angeles area now?

  • @SIRONEDRAGON
    @SIRONEDRAGON10 жыл бұрын

    Well done !! : )

  • @shannonmagann9009
    @shannonmagann9009 Жыл бұрын

    can you clean the files with a wire brush?

  • @bobsaturday4273
    @bobsaturday42738 жыл бұрын

    heres a real craftswoman with real pro tips

  • @cameronwhite9959
    @cameronwhite995911 жыл бұрын

    More Chelsea Clark, she's great! (almost as great as Dan Erlewine)

  • @ThomasDeLello
    @ThomasDeLello2 жыл бұрын

    I might have used a little Acetone and the brass brush to clean the super glue out of the file's cutting grooves.

  • @norsangkelsang7939
    @norsangkelsang79399 жыл бұрын

    for cleaning the file... use some soft brass... push later laterally.

  • @georgescarlett2320

    @georgescarlett2320

    7 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who uses a Fine Wire Wheel? Like a Million "Exacto's at a touch. If the file gets too worn, buy another! Less cost to clean with the wire wheel, and/or buy another, than the shop time invested with the old Exacto "toothpic", just sayin'.

  • @tylergavin4757
    @tylergavin47578 жыл бұрын

    "Seven strings and a Floyd Rose... I hope I don't have to set it up". Yep, I don't blame you one bit.

  • @RobynTapps

    @RobynTapps

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tyler Gavin floyds are easy... ugh... just time consuming..

  • @timhallas4275

    @timhallas4275

    7 жыл бұрын

    RobTapps88: You keep saying that, but I'll bet you don't have a 7 string guitar with a Floyd on it. Do ya?

  • @mercatorjubio3804

    @mercatorjubio3804

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tim Hallas just one string more, where's the problem? If you know how to do it, that is.

  • @ilpatongi

    @ilpatongi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mercator Jubio And this is where you’re wrong

  • @tqu5759

    @tqu5759

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ilpatongi Nope. He is exactly correct. I do in fact own a 7 string floyd rose guitar and once I set it up correctly it keeps playing like a dream for months.

  • @batmandeltaforce
    @batmandeltaforce10 жыл бұрын

    wow, a file expert:)

  • @BioStuff415
    @BioStuff4156 жыл бұрын

    to clean files you can use soft brass or hard wood to push across the teeth...

  • @beninglis8097
    @beninglis80979 жыл бұрын

    Since I have started paying very close attention to my guitar neck finish, fret ends, profile and so on, my playing has improved. I feel like they guitar is "mine" now for some reason... It always was mine, but now it feels like an extra limb.

  • @loknloll

    @loknloll

    9 жыл бұрын

    A most awesome comment. You are speaking from the perspective of a true artist. Extremely well said, my friend. Like a mechanic who builds his own hot rods, or a surfer who shapes his own boards, the experience and enjoyment is so much more complete when one has a hand in the development of the instrument.

  • @JgHaverty

    @JgHaverty

    9 жыл бұрын

    Always easier to build when your tools dont fight back. Same applies to guitars.

  • @Billo1281

    @Billo1281

    9 жыл бұрын

    Same here, my friend. I've been playing for the last 20 years but like a dummy never really got into learning ALL about the guitar. Now, I've brought my older guitars back to life, and it feels great. Because, like you said, they feel like mine. Cheers.

  • @georgescarlett2320

    @georgescarlett2320

    7 жыл бұрын

    As it should!

  • @jamesrichard5290

    @jamesrichard5290

    6 жыл бұрын

    ben inglis what a cool insight!! kicked open some windows in my mind. thank you dude! cheers

  • @search895
    @search8953 жыл бұрын

    I would use the neck as it was at the start at the video to play and ftw. Or maybe i would work it too. Depending on the mood.

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser6 жыл бұрын

    now i know how to clean my rasp!? thank you!

  • @colonelbrando
    @colonelbrando10 жыл бұрын

    ending is priceless

  • @samcooke343
    @samcooke3438 жыл бұрын

    Great tips there. But I really don't like the circular or horizontal sanding on the neck, should be with the grain 100 % of the time.

  • @frontbum420

    @frontbum420

    7 жыл бұрын

    good point

  • @harrywilliamson33
    @harrywilliamson3310 жыл бұрын

    are you going to show us the finished guitar

  • @silvacore
    @silvacore10 жыл бұрын

    Ohh..very nice liuter!!

  • @PovHemant
    @PovHemant8 жыл бұрын

    Great work, with no hifi tools.

  • @jerrymorganjr
    @jerrymorganjr5 жыл бұрын

    This girl is awesome...

  • @andreydyumaev5131
    @andreydyumaev51319 жыл бұрын

    final sanding's importance and extensiveness seemed underplayed. though i guess depends what finish is applied that light swirling around 400 or 600 for half a second in random directions just wouldnt fly with an oil finish. guess a thick slab of poly and/or a solid colour paint is more forgiving of whats underneath it

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