Shimano thought their crank problems were the limit of their problems and now magene moves the bar up several notches

@nochancecw

Ай бұрын

I love when I'm browsing the Internet and I see your comments pop up chirping Shimano out of the blue...glad to see the pen is working. 😂

@Pragmatist101

Ай бұрын

And MAGENE making a RIM BRAKE version.....again offering what people want not what BIG manufacturers dictate!

@bonbonflippers4298

Ай бұрын

​@Pragmatist101 holy shiii they making rim brake version?

@87togabito

Ай бұрын

@@Pragmatist101and which “people” again may I ask? The ones that still ride their 1900s steel bike and don’t spend a single cent on new parts? Look, I share your enthusiasm for cheap electronic shifting alternatives. But let’s be realistic, because rim brakes sales don’t make up enough to actually make it viable for the post pandemic cycling audience.

@marcopaganotto9125

Ай бұрын

I remember the days when you purchased Shimano's products safe in the knowledge that your new item was high quality, durable and functional, a genuine investment in your ride! Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore! Just remember how lovely Shimano's 9 speed XT drivetrain shifted, not to mention how long it lasted and then compare it to the crunching, grinding and horrifyingly noisy current XT 12 speed system. It really feels like the quality has gone, it's almost like Shimano has become SRAM 15 years ago.

Like the intense "gallon o' coffee" presentation style! Magene coming up with the goods, again. Take my money already.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Hahhaa... I was so pumped for all the cool stuff, I didn't even notice I was at eminem-speeds.

@ericsyd

Ай бұрын

I found it tiring.

@workshopninjathe1st

Ай бұрын

I’m here to say it’s tiring too - but have done bike shows in London and you do need the coffee :)

@TheVagom15

Ай бұрын

Why you speak so fast? Sounds like you are aways in a hurry!

Finally a Chinese electronic TT group. Now that is a game changer. Well done LTwoo

i can’t wait for panda podium to carry the magene rim brake grouppo

@bonbonflippers4298

Ай бұрын

Same! That's a market that if done right will make loads of money

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

We have some exciting rim brake frames coming too....

@fuckthediscbrake

Ай бұрын

Wow WoW wowwwwww ​@@ChinaCycling

speed is a hell of a drug

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

So. Much. Sugar.

@janmynarik

Ай бұрын

I would never spend $10k on an aero frame, I have more sense than that… Yeah I remember spending 10k on aero frame…

Rimbrake and wireless shifting! Take my money!

@jayeoliver9259

Ай бұрын

Hell yeah!

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Let's gooooo!

@pigupigu

Ай бұрын

Shimano does rim brake wireless shifting. Ultegra and dura ace di2

@michaelbauer8778

Ай бұрын

Wireless isn’t something new and special, isn’t?

@TC-ik9kn

Ай бұрын

SRAM red etap 11s ( rim brake version) 6years ago ? Or so ?

CC going eminem full sugar mode. Great reporting brother!

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

CTFU from day one homie.

The presentation was exciting, the presenter was excited, now I am excited. Happy that Magene are really improving and expanding.

I really like my Magene power meter. This is interesting news.

FINALLY! Some TT and Tri equipment! So happy to see these on your channel from the bike show

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it! I don't know what I'm talking about... but... it all looked rapid.

@grok76

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling I need it now! Just building my Tri bike, stealing parts from my Di2 roadie.

Great to see more groupset options… I think electronic groupsets may be easier/cheaper to get right/make as I think mechanical shifting requires more component precision in the entire system.

@veganpotterthevegan

Ай бұрын

I don't think either is difficult for a modestly competent engineer since we have computer modeling to make it easier. The real issue is patents and keeping things as simple as possible while avoiding patent infringement

@jimsonjohnson3761

Ай бұрын

All depends. If they can provide correctional software and reliable electronics that last then maybe.

Okay this was exciting to see. Magene is making gigachad moves here. Great one Joe!

You've got a camera man! Great show 👌

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Yeah, first day on the job and i messed up the lens adapter so he doesnt even have auto-focus... poor guy.

Good work Joe! 👏👏👏👏👏

I met you at the show on this day. I'm the guy with uneven q factor problem with the cranks. Thanks for the water bottle. TBH, your video is better than the Shanghai bike show itself. I'm pretty sure that most brands on display at the show don't really exist. They are there to sell their manufacturing capability rather than their own branded bikes. You don't see these bikes on the road ever. And you cannot buy these bikes from anywhere.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd rather watch a video about the bike show than come to the bike show... lol.

My word, this is an absolutely packed video. Lots.of cool things on the horizon

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

It's bananas. This is also only half the footage of day 1....

600g frames is crazy

@ScrubsIsee

Ай бұрын

Yeah. But will it last also?

@climberevan

29 күн бұрын

My 2018 Trek Emonda frame is under 700g, so it's just a further evolution. That one also looked like a pretty small size...

Brilliant report. Thanks! Looking forward for tomorrow’s video.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to it, my legs aren't...

: I just love your energy. This is totally your thing and it shows!

2 of my 5 L-TWOO er9 rear derailleur died for no reason, hopefully they will start releasing products that aren't beta over time. Currently their electronic groups are beta releases at best.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Yeah, my early experience with L-TWOO electronic is well documented on this channel... all my most recent stuff (last 6 months) is all stable though...

@pierrex3226

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling good to know. I bought mine in the summer of 2023. I'm waiting for the replacements now, I hope they will work. I really do want them to work, I'm really loving the one on my road bike, one that hasn't died.

@JohnDir-xw3hf

Ай бұрын

Chinese junk. Stop wasting money on it.

@colecoleman1499

Ай бұрын

Exactly I would consider buying Chinese groupsets atleast after 5 years. They will be like AMD z kicking intel in the ass. Shimano in this case

Well done, Joe

Love the content Joe, keep up the good work man! That dyneema gilet looks great, will definitely buy one when its on PP

thanks for the overview.....looking forward to seeing how some of these new frames/groupsets do in ride reviews.

Thanks Joe!! I love watching your videos especially the bike shows you were why I built my bike with a frame and parts from china

finally，i have been waiting for this video for the entire night.

@ed0078

Ай бұрын

Really?

The design and performance of the seka "spear" is amazing. I can't wait to ride it.

Very impressed with the bikes and components on display in China. Very impressed. Going to check out a few of the manufactures for sure.

wow, this looks incredible

One hell of a show❤❤❤

Those seka bottle cages look an awful lot like giant cages

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Someone else told me they looked like the BMC ones... now I"m curious if BMC or GIANT did it first...?

@TheArniec91

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling no idea who did it first but they're great looking cages!

@BS16Tech

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling bmc

DJ JOE is on the Mic. Rock on Joe or Rap on DJ Joe. 👏👏👏👏 Outstanding coverage and details, Joe & China Cycling!!

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Always appreciate you Keith

Great work Joe! I so want to return to Xiamen!

OMG Joe how you can keep going at that speed man you just amaze me thank you for a great video back tomorrow see you then keep safe love the video.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Adrenaline, and dozens of pairs of eyes staring at you when you're on the stand.

@daviddjerassi

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling well you are sure doing a fantastic job Sir.

Seka Spears looks really interesting 🤔 (and Exceed too). I hope you'll try it someday and gives us a review of it 👍

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Just screen-shotting this comment and sending it to SEKA now...

Good job !

Thanks lots of cool new stuff there! I guess we rim brake riders are like dinosaurs now hahah no problem 😉

Always liked Magene stuff, even excited when they demo out QED P515

Rim brakes 😊 Yea baby yea ❤

really hope these chinese groupsets start seeing mainstream success in the US! Good competition is good for all consumers

As a triathlete I am super excited to see the LTWOO ERX tt groupset

@prrace8599

Ай бұрын

I’m right there with you! I’d love to see a TT/ Tri super bike version with the LTwoo electric gearing and aero shifters with deep section wheels and power meter to compare it to the big brands.

Couldn't find anything online about SYB / Laget, do they have a website?

Cant wait for rim brake version

That titanium gravel bike and the SEKA Spear both looked really nice.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

There are some nice frames coming out now.

A big thanks to Pandapodium for sponsoring this video, lol.

Magene is just killing it! But I just got my PES Base last month and I want that pedal based one grrrrr

Saying hi at the exhibition :)

Will the frame be availible at Pandapodium?

Just WOW!!!

Are Panda Podium going to be stocking the Laget Discovery One? I'd love one of those!

That SYB Lagget bike frame.... hot damn that would be a fun bike!

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Not "cheap", but like half / a third of the price of the small boutique western frames doing similar things.

@davidgoon1978

Ай бұрын

byd - build your dream syb - suck your bike？😅😅

More info on the SYB Ti please!

Crazy prices for bikes......out of head !

Also I love the PARDOUS Road bike

Was pretty set on the bross zenith a month ago (they've confirmed they're selling overseas and will have a webpage up soon), but with the new seka and a possible discount on the van rysel now that I'll be working at decathlon I'm getting really anxious with choices. The magene groupset is a very pleasant surprise, I trust them to sort things out. The ltwoo tt setup is something I was hoping for but didn't really expect. There's an annual 12hr tt organised by my local club so being able to just pop a set of tribars with satellite shifters on my bike is a really attractive possibility. I'd heard of neutron before but never really looked into them. Glad to hear they're actually a farsports brand! 360g for a 24mm spindle at 350$ and 8-bolt mount is getting me excited in all the right places. Much more commonplace than cinch mount and crucially for me, Magene compatible, personally trust them way more than sigey and xcadey (my p505 base has been the dog's bollocks, as a certain somebody would say). Will you be selling these as well?

oh cool. wasn't expecting tt groundset but if it's cheap enough i might buy it.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it has me intreagued...

Good for you man! I know you from Aston - Awesome to see you succeeding! 60K plus subscribers - nice. (I am Peter W. BTW, formerly from Dandong, now in Dalian)

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

I remember you dude... Crazy small world, haha. Aston was good days, especially the annual conference. ;)

The Pardus TT frame certainly looks stunning! How it rides, however, would be good to know.

Chinese switched the gears to a higher speed. 🚀Good coverage, Joe. 👍 I'm curious to see what all of this will be on Eurobike. 🤔

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

It should be a good show..

What a jam packed show…. Dude, what gels you using? LoL.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Bath salts. lol. (Joke.)

Do those new DT hubs only take DT carbon spokes? Or can they use the carbon spokes available on the market today? I see it is laced with 24 spokes vs current offering of 20 spokes.

What was your favourite thing today? What do you want to see more of? 🤔

@glennicol1361

Ай бұрын

I think my favourite thing today... Would be the Bross Zenith, silly name for a bike but the bike looks awesome! Also excited for the Magene power meter pedals. Regret going for a 5K run before attending the show as super tired now!

@ebikescrapper3925

Ай бұрын

Gilet for me, more clothing please. Great video.

@thethelostjs

Ай бұрын

e-mtb!!!!!!!

@hddd1502

Ай бұрын

magene!

@chrisbustos4358

Ай бұрын

That SEKA Spear in the Chronus colorway is fire! Hope @ChinaCyling can distribute them, thinking about those of us in North America.

this is the year of chinese TT bike frame tech. great to see so many affordable TT options there. Maybe you should do some TT build😃

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Good idea!

@lordalfa600

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Yes. TT! I like the Pardus setup. I am not trialing in UCI events so I don't care about the extensions and so on and so forth. Just like hill climbing, there are TT enthusiasts that just ride 10 miles like Leadfoot Larry with no rules on bike dimension restrictions.

@rogersliu1200

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling very interested in the elves TT

Farsports Hyper is still their best wheelset IMO - choice of multiple hub and spokes options, 30mm external width, 24mm internal - just great all around.

Can you visit Bafang, LightCarbon and DengFu booths please? Eager to see what they have especially for the eMTB scene!

Yo are you able to ask far sport about their track wheels ? Been trying to look into it

Your are a talented presenter Joe. Thank you.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Getting better show by show I guess

A suggestion for TT bikes in general: have a look at the disc brake area, that's one of the bug bears for aero. Looks like the Pardus front disc area has a cowl over the caliper, etc? It looks kinda awesome and would have been well worth a 5 second shot of that area of the bike. Front and back but esp front as the air comes in clean and then hits all kinds of turbulence. The only other suggestion is a shot from head on - pointing towards the bike as if you are air about to hit the bike. Always good to see the front profile for aero thoughts. I like the look of the Pardus, thanks for the video. ETA: I just did a search and Pardus tri bikes have been around for 6 years or more?

Where can I buy a SEKA bike ? Thank you for your Videos

Magene is a big player in the wireless tech? 🧐

What a show! So many goodies. That stella frame looks like a Trek madone rip off.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

🙈

7:51 Are you sure these are BAR END PLUGS !?

The Magene groupset's look, finish, shape, and button location all look very similar to L-TWOO. I wonder if it's some kind of partnership or if it's bespoke.🤔

I have tried to mail pardus in more than one occasion but never got any reply. Been interested in that TT bike since I saw it and wanted to see if they still sell the light weight rim brake frame.

That Pardus TT Frame is nuts! Will you be stocking Pardus?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Pardus don't wanna push overseas..... yet. ;)

Stella had no inspiration herself? Bike looks like a Trek Madone

@Carftymk

Ай бұрын

it looks from the side, but there is no hole so that's a huge difference. i was kinda bummed to see it didn't, but there is a chinese frame (sold by airwolf iirc) that is almost a 1:1 copy of the madone with the hole

@Adanteh

Ай бұрын

Frame "inspired" by a Trek Madone. Name taken from a dutch e-bike company

another electronic groupset, awesome. but i haven't heard of the looong rumored sensah one? i wish magene made directmount powermeter cranks again... (but lighter this time) i want to use 48-32 rings

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

I went to the Sensah stand today too... literally nothing new... was underwhelmed. :(

Great video. Do you remember the name of the company that made the lightweight gilet? I couldn’t quite catch it. Cheers

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

I can't rememebr the name of the company, but its the same company behind OVERFAST... if you get in touch with them, they'll know.

@jamesbrickwood7414

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated 🙏

@jamesbrickwood7414

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling thank you!

That dyneema gillette looks more like made out of a shopping bag. I am also amazed with how much useless and unnecessary gizmos ( i. E aero bar ends) companies churn out and try to convince you they're worth getting.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Haha, wait until you see the price... ;) ;)

Man it sounds like it was loud! You are screaming in the mic! Thanks for the coverage!

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Its very noisy in there, cant hear yourself think.

Would be great to see Seka frames on Panda Podium. I’ve been considering them for a while but would be awesome to finally have a reliable way of ordering to Europe.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

We're working on it... Fingers crossed...

Will Panda podium have the xds rt9 frames? It's hard to find info in the usa.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

We're having talks with them, but some brands are limited as to where they can sell...

Que bom, tomara que os preços sejam bem melhores mesmo, assim shimano e sram serão marcas famosas mas não exclusivas.

Seka Spear seems to be already for sale in Australia for AU$4480 - not cheap but pretty nice.

Would love to see more of the Java aluminium frame

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

I'll head back on day 2 or day 3!

@brasstinmancrazy

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling thank you

I believe Magene just launched p705 recently. Did you hear the reason why they are releasing new ones so fast??

China has all the coolest stuff.

Where can I get those magene wireless shifter in malaysia

Great to see more and more alternatives to western bike components, keep up the good work joe, i'd love to see more MTB content though🙏

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Day 3 or 4 I'm gonna focus on MTB content. ;)

What is more reliable, a power meter crankset or pedals?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Spider based is usually pretty robust.

This is better than GCN

Just cutting out parts is called modern design now?

@ed0078

Ай бұрын

Right. Bike industry is desperate

@veganpotterthevegan

Ай бұрын

Engineering reliable things has always been related to simplifying them.

@sempi8159

Ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan making these cutouts doesn't simplify anything...

@veganpotterthevegan

Ай бұрын

@sempi8159 it does for aerodynamics. No extra deep tubes that need more carbon and costs more money.

@sempi8159

Ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan it doesn't change aerodynamics to any useful degree.... A fake test in a windtunnel tells you almost nothing about real world aero..... This is just to stand out and look different... There is no other reason... The elite bike industry is fucked and im glad about it

Joe, what was the frame you were riding with the new Magene Groupset?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Good question... I guess they just got a cheap open mold frame and painted it... but I'm not sure.

@qjetha

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Yeah that makes sense! Thanks for all you do!

Curious how that Neutron cassette shifts. Why don't the aftermarket cassette manufacturers just copy the actual HG tooth profiles since the Shimano patent has long ago expired?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Will be testing it out soon.

Compact and dense information in 17 Min. Machinegun talk. So far so good. But man, the nerdy outfit is a no-go.

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

The words per minute on this one is rivalling some rap videos. Outfits are only gonna get nerdier... sorry not sorry. :) 🤣

How much is that XDS RT9 frame and how can I buy it????! Will pandapodium stock it?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

We're in talks to stock it... But it's not looking too likely. It's complicated.

@hockysa

Ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling shame 😞 I’m keen for a Chinese alternative that can rival an Aethos frame

Does anyone know what happened to Sensah? I remember a few years ago, they were right up there with L-Twoo with the cheap groupsets and boe they seem to have disappeared out of nowhere.

@user-vw7fz3eq1b

Ай бұрын

They still doing their thing and even seperated to branch brand, they just don't pay too much attention to oversea market.

X-LAB rt 9 looks like the aethos

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

XDS (X-Lab is their 'sworks') do lots of OEM for lots of big brands.... 🤐 (But not Specialized...)

interested with the Stella bike frame, when and where can i find it!?!?!?!?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Coming soon... 2-3 months...

What about the rapper hands? Always looks like he's about to drop some sick tunes

Seka with two holes and a regular road frame will be "faster"?

@ChinaCycling

Ай бұрын

Black magic.