A few things to add to that. You'll note that his shoulders are more opened up forward in the direction he is going. This means that his flick is kicking at a more natural trajectory instead of having to go sideways splits style. As for "rhythm", that's a little bit strength and a lot bit timing the flick. He delays the flick a good bit before kicking off the top of the board and not the side. Also, his kick is mostly straight. It goes forward and back without doing a circular rotation. This is important because it's effecicient use of energy. If you do more of a rounded flick like what you're doing, a lot of the energy your leg is creating is getting expended into the air and not onto the board. Part of the reason you see him "leaning his head forward" is because he is jumping more off his front foot than off his back. When you pop off of both feet equally it makes popping the tail specifically more challenging because instead of being able alternate your movement upwards (front foot jump) from the downward motion of the board (back foot pop) so that they can be independently defined movements, instead jumping off both feet means that your front foot is actively fighting the downward pop of the board. They need to be as isolated as popssible. Lastly his upper body doesn't go up to quick. He pops with more power than he does speed. Basically his goal is to get his entire center of gravity higher as a whole so he has more time to handle the other movements of the board with more precision. This is the "floaty" part of his jump that you mention and it's common to basically mostly skaters who have that effortless look to their style. Hope that helps. :) Rad video man. Keep it up.

Kickflip is looking good! I'm currently in the process of trying to change many years of bad kickflips. Retraining muscle memory is difficult. Maybe I should make a video about that 🤔. Gonna take these tips into consideration next time I skate. Thanks dude.

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so much harder to fix bad habits

@kbcastro

2 жыл бұрын

This is me right now ahahah.The most annoying trick in the world.

@kbcastro

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe facts

@Carlos-ks4ru

2 жыл бұрын

@@kbcastro tres are worse!

@rockbandgamer

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Dan Corrigans "Kickflip masterclass" video

You are actually really good breaking down other persons techniques I couldn’t do that

I really appreciate the analysis you do on tricks like this. Everyone's kickflip is different, so showing exactly what is different is so useful. Thank you :)

Just yesterday I tried my old 8.125 again and I felt more comfortable, I'm going to go back to that size, it made me more comfortable, skating in general, gave me that feeling

I like the format of this video best. The length , intro, ending and pace was on point.

Thank you for making this video. You broke it down very simply and made it easy to understand.

Great insight here, man! Thanks.

Yo that tip with the knee felt like magic! I lost my kickflips after a injury, but that tip helped me get them back. Thanks a lot!!!

I really dig what you're doing with these videos bro. I've skated for 20 years now and kickflips have always been something I've struggled to master consistently

@mpawli10

2 жыл бұрын

This is good advice for everyone though, back in the day we just had Tony hawk trick tips! Preciate your analysis and delivery of it

Hi there, I just wanna thankyou man, this video improved my kickflips so much, I feel way more in control and catching them way better, keep up the great work, your doing a brilliant job, thankyou from way down in New Zealand, Geno

You have acquired some mad skills bro, have followed you for a while now. Glad you always mention excercises one can do to increase pop height and strength. A lot of people wonder how to get better control of their board/higher pop etc.. Gotta step off the board for a bit and work that core lol

I give you a 9/10 you’re definitely getting the rhythm and catch. I do believe if you had a 8.25 or 8.1 you’d be able to pop it a lot higher. Props for doing it on a 8.5! That’s what I ride and it’s not easy!

Damn, I've skated half my life and never thought about leading with the knee. Good Shit

the greatest skate analist.

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

i think that'd be rodney mullen but I try!

Wow, that tip on leading the kickflip with your knee and letting your foot kinda loose is incredible.

it’s not popped as high but otherwise i’d say it’s almost identical. 10/10 🔥

Love watching your progression keep inspiring I’d give it an 8 just practicing extending your front foot more I think that will help you with catching it better and making the flip spin more floaty

great video! glad i found you!! make a frontside flip video please! muska flip AND traditional please!

I think the type of shoe you skate effects how you kick your kickflips as well, when I skate cupsoles I don’t need to kick my foot out as much, but with a vulc i get that nice ninja kick

Somebody needs to make a video on how to think like local Joe.. Your thought process is next level my boy

Thanks bro

He is keeping eye on foot to land and reposition it over the bolts for secure landing every time . I do the same switch.

If you told someone 1995-2005 that an 8.125 board was considered skinny they'd think you're nuts haha. I love 8" boards though. Perfect balance between what i used to love skating as a kid in 2004 and what I like skating now my feet are bigger lol

Posture is so important and underrated man

Great video, I think your flick was closely matched with Shanes. Well done.

seriously love your channel bro. got a quick question, why do you catch your tricks going down so fast? do you catch your tricks early to feel a little safer and prevent another injury? and have you ever thought about trying to do your tricks in a more floaty suspended way? Keep up the good work. Also I’m getting Ishod’s twin tail thanks to your review :)

I had the idea that maybe Shane also leans so far over his front leg in order to stabilize his jump. Instead of trying to balance between the back leg and kind of awkward front leg, the lean allows him to focus solely on the front foot motion. Love your videos and watching your progress. Keep thrashing, Joe!

I think it has to do with the power to board weight ratio. That's why a small kid might only be able to kickflip a centimeter high, because his body cannot generate enough power to pop the board and make it suck up to his feet. The heavier the board, the more power needed. The lighter the board, less power is needed.

It’s the follow through like breaking a board in karate or chopping wood

The one trick I never lose no matter how long I go without skating

Your onw style kick flip is, if you watch Kung Fu, ninja movies. And be ini with your own menatal mind and vision.n' Sure practic in anyways. That about kick flip, from my heart. Love Skateboarding Art

the bobby de Keyzer kick flip is the info the world needs

Where’d you get that beanie, it’s cleann

the secret to a good kickflip is flicking late! all hail lizard king

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Lizards trick tip is so underrated

The trick is not to think about the flick. It is to think about the ollie. If you put your foot in a kickflip stance and pop the ollie you will inadvertently flick the board because of the foot placement. This is the trick to the kickflip. But you HAVE to jump slightly backward if you want to land it perfectly.

I love how 8.125 is considered such a skinny board now. Back in the Baker 3 days everybody was on the 7.75's

Make a video on frontside 360’s next

'Young Padawan, the upward force of the board must meet the downward force of the body' - Local Joe

I miss your deedz board, would 155 aces fit a 8.3 deedz dexk? Thanks hehe

Hey I know where that skate park is !! That’s where I go sometimes

W vid honestly

I don't know how but I've been losing my kickflip so I'm definitely gonna use these tips for sure thanks!!

@thedon1184

2 жыл бұрын

happens bro, some day's you have tricks down and some day's you dont!

@J0_star

2 жыл бұрын

@@thedon1184 yea I hate it when that happens

@J0_star

2 жыл бұрын

@@thedon1184 I’m just glad that he uploads vids like this because I’m always looking for tip for tricks that I’m trying to learn or trying to do better.

A lot of the jump comes from the lift of the arms+shoulders and sudden stop.

You should learn Luan's kickflip

Arrrrgh, ive been trying to think why my flips are not like they were in the 90s, its leading with the knee, I totally used to do this

If anybody is to teach you how to kickflip. It should be Dave Bachinsky. Dude kickflipped El Toro 🤣

I just want mine to dip thats all i want

You need to learn how to get the Ollie’s higher imo… the timing is how his deck is setup his tails hits the ground quicker that’s why you see him already sliding his foot up the board before his tail hits vs like Nyjah. Even tho Nyjah on thunders and his board tail has a lot of pop it hits the ground not as fast and his tail is smaller so he is able to wait a quick half sec. to slide his foot up. if you can ollie above knee and almost waist height you will be able to kickflip that high also

Which trucks are better for you thunder or indy?

@jouhajohnny

2 жыл бұрын

He likes Thunders more

have you ever tried doing them

W

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I never landed a kickflip, my board always rotates in a varial kickflip motion

@tresfordays9644

Жыл бұрын

Probably kicking too straight or slightly in front of you, you want to kick out to the side off the nose, if you’re goofy kick out to the right, if your regular kick out to the left

isn't that technically an ollie north ?

just commenting because you're not at 100k yet wtf leading with the knee is what made kickflips happen for me, board was landing way in front before because you asked, I'd rate your kickflips 8/10 on a harsh scale, because catch and control are literally perfect but the lack of pop is hurting the overall :)

Since when is 8.125 a skinny board😓

How can I support you more🙏🙏 I would love if this can be your full time job forever💯

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Dude that means a lot! You can Join my Patreon as well as buy Friday Gear! I’m going to be doing more in depth trick tips on the patreon soon!

@enriquemeza504

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe as soon as my check comes. Consider me a life long Patreon supporter

8.25 isnt a skinny board

@pplolxd

2 жыл бұрын

8.25 is like average nowadays

My kickflips be low af

im a serious fan of shane and even i dont like his kickflips....it kind of seems like he barely likes them. ill come back and edit whose kickflip i really like.

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

huh yeah I like his kickflips a lot!

He learned them before ollies. Probably effected his technique.

Your tricks don’t seem harder on a board with a wider wheelbase

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Haha believe me it’s been tough adjusting to this board

@lennyeacuvetto8146

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe I bet, I remember before skating 8 and higher boards, back when everyone rode 7.5 to 7.75 I rode 7.8 for the longest time. Then recently I was like screw it let’s try an 8 and now I look at 8.375 and higher as the equivalent of driving a airplane when your use to driving a truck

Look at his flips around 50 seconds in video,he's barely flicking off the nose..

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too!

@spladdlemaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe yea watched that video before, but this time around I noticed his flick placement, I flip off the nose myself,anyway been watching you for a while now great content,bless up and be eazy

I still find it funny that 8.125 is a skinny board these days

@jaciobe

2 жыл бұрын

Its not

@jouhajohnny

2 жыл бұрын

his board is actually 8.19

@jaciobe

2 жыл бұрын

@@jouhajohnny people tripping on board sizes. We skated 7.5 in the 90s I think it went even skinnier at 1 point

@Jamtron88

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaciobe yeah that was my point dude, 8.125 is fat for us 90s skaters but nowadays it's on the smaller end

I'm try so hard and got so far ........ 😂😂😂

i disagree with everything u said man, the secret of this and all of tricks is not use strenght, and concentrate the weight on the knees... Just pop it at the right time and dont pull your feet down, just await it flips....

i rate it a 2

Did Shane tell you these trick tips or are these your assumptions of them?

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty obvious it’s my analysis

@jaciobe

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe you should say that then most probably.

@jaciobe

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe title is misleading and you make out like he's told you this stuff. Just saying. Im friends with some pros and yhey have actually personally given me tips and I've made videos too and STILL don't make out the videos are THEIR secrets. Just saying bro.

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaciobe I mean you do you my guy I have no problem with it either way

@jaciobe

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe sure because youre the one claiming they tell you this stuff lol.

Wow this is a bad look