Man Vernon had power in both hands. Rest in paradise!!!

@CliffyFagon

6 ай бұрын

❤🎉🎉

@Mma-basement-215

29 күн бұрын

Yeah he did

Steve Smogar is definitely one of the greatest refs in boxing history; he knows how to let fighters work. I always appreciate a good boxing referee.

@thecarguy4304

7 ай бұрын

Yes he was my favorite!!

Idk why Vernon Forrest isn’t more popular. I know his life was cut short but what he did to Mosley was an amazing display of skill. He would’ve given anyone in their prime a problem.

@clightning9703

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@fiddysat

10 ай бұрын

except of course Mayorga LOL

@joeblow2069

9 ай бұрын

More popular in what way? He lost 2X to Mayorga that set him back. Then he lost a decision to Sergio Mora 5 years later.

@mozfonky

7 ай бұрын

couldn't get past his first defense. Competitive sport, you have to be able to do well against all kinds of styles, not everyone can.

@maxmustermann9058

2 ай бұрын

@atMayorga did have a problem dealing with Forrest in the second fight, he still won by points but it was a hard-fought, competitive fight. Forrest having a bad style-match up against Mayorga is not a huge knock against him. Iran Barkley twice knocked out Tommy Hearns but he was still a beast and hugely popular, Forrest's resume is not on the level of Hearns but he was still very formidable.

Also Rest In Peace to Vernon Forrest who was killed by a coward

The lady screaming "COME ON VERNON FUCK HIM UP!" every few seconds is all the commentary we need

@HahaHaha-km4sm

8 ай бұрын

Right when I read this she said it lol

@Thunderfistboxing

3 ай бұрын

Screaming like a monkey destroyed my ears...

"Styles make fights " Vernon beat Shane twice, Shane beat Mayorga twice , Mayorga beat Vernon twice… a Perfect example

@jeffrailey

Жыл бұрын

And Oscar De La Hoya DESTROYED Ricardo Mayorga.

@bernie4366

Жыл бұрын

Vernon fought a much better version of Mayorga than Shane or ODLH did. His prime was very short, mostly due to his bad habits, but for a brief time he was about as dangerous a welterweight as you'd ever want to meet.

@ruffgodz9543

Жыл бұрын

@@bernie4366 Golden Boy and sugar will still destroy the mayorga that knocked forrest out

@bernie4366

Жыл бұрын

@@ruffgodz9543 Probably, but they're ATG's man. You're not talking about two random dudes here. I don't think they 'destroy' him though. He's dangerous as fuck. They'll take their time.

@ruffgodz9543

Жыл бұрын

@@bernie4366 Oscar and shane are more dangerous than mayorga, it's just that style makefights that's all.

Vernon had Shane's number, twice. Some fighters do with certain opponents. Shame what happened to him. R.I.P. Vernon Forrest.

@box5bastard277

8 ай бұрын

Just like miyorga had his and Shane had miyorgas yell

@cboakye6980

8 ай бұрын

Vernon even beat his ass in the amateurs...Shane just could never beat him.

@jamesbondjr.85

8 ай бұрын

@@cboakye6980 Styles make fights. Vernon handled Shane. Mayorga beat Vernon. Shane beat Mayorga.

@cboakye6980

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesbondjr.85 That's true.its funny how it's like that.

@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw

7 ай бұрын

who didn't have Shanes number. he could never box, LOL

Shane was never the same after this fight

People need to understand that at this point in time, Shane Mosley was essentially on top of the boxing world. He had already beat prime Oscar De La Hoya and was the top dog in his division. For him to give a chance to a guy like Vernon Forrest who was obviously a very good to great prime, hungry fighter with a style that was all bad for Mosley, says a lot about the guts Mosley had and how guys back then (As opposed to most top fighters today) were not ducking each other, talking about “It don’t make business sense” “it ain’t about the belts” “you on the other side of the street” etc. blah blah. Mosley didn’t duck Forrest when he could’ve had every excuse to. It was just Forrest’s night.

@troytaylor4996

Жыл бұрын

FLOYD was the best, and they both knew that

@HansumTrini

Жыл бұрын

Mosley knew exactly who Vernon was, because they fought in the Olympics...

@BruteStrength99

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Shane gave anything to Forrest he hadn't earned. Forrest was the IBF champion. Shane wanted to unify and he wanted revenge for Forrest keeping him out of the Olympics. This was no charity

@Toesucker26

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree with you more.!!!!!!!

@rahkinggreen64

Жыл бұрын

Twice??? V was just too good for Sugar..

Shane's had the same problem his whole career which is why he lost this fight. Mosley is a natural boxer with incredible speed but has the heart and chin of a brawler. Here instead of boxing and protecting himself hed rather brawl it out with Forrester who has much more power than Shane but doesn't have Shane's speed. Everyone knows if you hit Shane he's gonna hit you back. Forrester simply took what Shane gave him

@Kenny-Alpha

Жыл бұрын

Good analysis

@mattsharkey8437

Жыл бұрын

Shane had an awful jab and when you're boxing against a longer fighter with a better one, then most likely you're going to lose.

@shafo4384

Жыл бұрын

Forrest did not have more power than Shane. He was a more technical boxer so he won.

@AshleyBD15

10 ай бұрын

..And coming off worse from the head clash which effectively set up the Knockdown 🤷🏾‍♂️ after that point, Shane then thought a more careless and desperate fight

“Am I cut “ , “you’re cut” , “dayum” 🤣

Vernon "The Viper" Forrest was an extraordinary welterweight! He shook up boxing with this win because people didn't know how accomplished he was as an amateur, but they all knew Sugar Shane Mosley's popularity! This fight taught me to look deep into fighters' amateur careers over popularity.

@mookeychase0907

Жыл бұрын

Facts he had beat Shane in the ammys also so he had great confidence

@themondoshow

11 ай бұрын

Or just look at their actual boxing

@AvoidTheseMemes

11 ай бұрын

@@themondoshow They'll look way better than they really are if they're fighting tomato cans

@TheFW212

9 ай бұрын

Same here especially in the 2nd fight

@brandon_jo_el

8 ай бұрын

I remember watching this fight live. At the time, I considered Shane unbeatable.

Man i just saw this fight on my home page and decided to watch it, never really heard of vernon forest aside from seeing his name when i looked up shanes boxing record awhile back. But man what a amazing fighter!!! And it's sad to learn about the tragedy that happened to him, rest in paradise brother we truly lost a great 🙏😇

@jeffreycurtis9075

Жыл бұрын

Go dude

@seekgod365

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycurtis9075 excuse me?

people don’t know what it takes to do this. a 20 second street fight is a joke to this. this is a brutal sport

@conflicto7575

Жыл бұрын

The light circus of rome is the boxing

RIP Vernon- shook up the world with that one

R.I.P. my fellow boxer and champion Vernon Forrest. 🥊🥊🙏🏾🙏🏾✝️✝️💖💖

@johnrife7134

Жыл бұрын

Trained with him in Augusta.

How did you find these fights without commentary! Brilliant stuff thanks for posting this!

NOBODY EXPECTED SUGAR TO LOSE🥊🥊

Props to Moseley for going the distance he want doing to good after the first knockdown. Both these dudes were beasts. RIP Vernon Forrest

I remember watching this fight live and seeing Forrest just dominate Sugar Shane broke my heart

Vernon was 3-0 vs Shane. Beat him once in the amateurs too…and he won me $400 on this night. RIP Champ

That Whew Punch Shane talked about Vernon never landing, landed...🛬

Shane Mosley never been stopped, took some vicious shots . . doesn't get enough credit for his toughness Rip Vernon

@WZ912

Жыл бұрын

ROIDS

@conflicto7575

Жыл бұрын

Steroids

@user-zt9fd7nn3j

11 ай бұрын

@@WZ912 Sorry that was the second fight with Oscar at 154. he wanted to get bigger but he was stiff, I knew something was off. Before that, pure skill. His pops wanted all that money. he didnt develop a left hook til hopkins trainer came along later in his career, margarita knockout, will show you that new skill set.

Interesting that Forrest beat Mosley 2X but lost to Mayorga a lessor fighter 2X. He also split decisions with Sergio Mora. Proof that styles and body types matter.

@iwant2usethis

6 ай бұрын

Not really that interesting. Mayorga was a good boxer and so was Mora. That fact that he was stopped by Mayorga in their first match is indeed interesting. Yet out of 41 matches, these are his only losses. I'm not sure what proof relative to body types you're talking about, unless you know some study that I'm not aware of

@Bartimeo225

21 күн бұрын

What? Mayorga was a bull man,a real wild and ferocious Warrior in his prime Beware

Not many fighters would have survived that 2nd round to go 12. Shane had insane punch resistance and heart.

@iwant2usethis

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. He was extremely cleaver also. His head never really reset properly after the knockdown in the second. Yet he was able to think clearly enough to keep the distance close, so that he wasn't on the end of Vernon's punishing power. That lunging towards Vernon was a cleaver gimmick to allow Vernon to tie him up, giving him chance to survive this fight. Vernon had him where he wanted, but couldn't knock his feet out from under him and was wary of getting in trouble himself

This fight should’ve been over in the 2nd round

@kevinbrown8591

9 ай бұрын

Facts same thing I said he was done

@andredorsey2922

Ай бұрын

Facts. Definitely a stoppage

RIP to Vernon Forest

R.I.P Vernon forrest.

Shane looks cool even when he loses

Mosely got whipped in this fight Vernon Forrest just had Moselys number.

@hugocoria7053

Жыл бұрын

and mayorga had forrest s number as well

@joys8634

9 ай бұрын

Feel like the headbutt changed the fight

That body shot made Shane yell in the 10th around 1:30

@larios350

Жыл бұрын

Had to play it back to catch it, wow!

They’re so quick It’s like the video is sped up

Vern's height and reach really paid dividends.

I almost wanted the ref to stop it but the fight was too big.... gotta let him try

What a fight, the ref was good two, giving two Champs the best at it

@ramonbarreto3307

2 жыл бұрын

lo que se ha sido un veso grandote yo

Great to see this fight in 1080 HD

Tis fight with Mayweather v Forest would likely have been the first

The quality!

Thankful for all the great fights that did happen but so many didn’t unfortunately like Mosley vs Ike Quartey,Vernon Forrest vs Winky Wright,Trinidad vs Mosley,Trinidad vs Ike Quartey,De la Hoya vs Winky Wright and so on and so forth in so many era’s sometimes they happen when they don’t matter nearly as much due to fighter’s being past their best day’s but most often it happens due to promoters and the fighter’s who hide behind the promoters 😂 Thank God Mosley was never one of those 🙏💪😎 True warrior

@BruteStrength99

Жыл бұрын

I would've liked to scene Vargas vs Quartey. I think it would've been a chess match

*RIP VERNON AUG STAND UP*

I am gonna say it, Vernon beats Floyd at any point if they fought. But Floyd would NEVER sign that contract 🤔

I like it with no commentary. You get tired of listening to Larry Merchant.

Vernon’s jab was vicious this fight he was tripling and quadrupling that jawn.

Forrest was the only guy to ever put a good whoppin to Mosely!! Just a good beating!!! Peace brother

@katanasmith

2 жыл бұрын

Why didn't Forrest at least get warned for excessive holding? Every time Moseley got close he was like an octopus and Moseley was not allowed to work inside.

@mateosmind751

2 жыл бұрын

He beat Shane 2 times in amateur and 2 times as a pro, has his number.

@tyrellsamuel4770

2 жыл бұрын

Lee Lauder.. Don't know if you seen it or not but Floyd definitely put a good beating on Mosley his self bro..

@ezed743

2 жыл бұрын

He hit Shane with such a devastating body shot Shane screamed out so loud I thought he had been shot lol

@mookeychase0907

2 жыл бұрын

@@katanasmith Shane was holding just as much

Reminds me that Shane has an amazing resume. He fought Vernon Forest.

No annoying commentary from ring side announcers. Great Video. 👊🏿👊🏿

R.I.P. Vernon. All time great!!!!!

This fick is the perfect example of a parent not giving a fuck. Shane was nearly out cold and all his dad could say is "move around the ring".

@sugardrey2067

9 ай бұрын

Listen in the 5th round someone in the crowd is yelling “move to your right Shane” his own corner never said that once. Corner had nothing strategy wise for Shane after the 2nd round.

No commentary is awesome! Thanks for the video

@user-df2dd5qz9p

2 жыл бұрын

Loop loop .9lip

body shot at 40:45 was extremely vicious.

@humptiness

9 ай бұрын

Goddamn that was brutal. Shane called on the power of god and anime to stay upright. What a fighter.

@sugardrey2067

9 ай бұрын

10th round at 1:31 & around 1:28 you can hear Shane damn near scream 😱

Sounds like Chris Byrds wife in the background yelling 😆

@elizandropedraza1286

2 ай бұрын

I think it was her though ? 🤔

@walterseverin607

2 ай бұрын

@@elizandropedraza1286 it was! I just read about it… she was at this fight yelling for Forrest to win, she was mad at Byrd after an argument and went out for the night and went to this fight!

Shane wasn't ready for the bigger, stronger, faster, more talented and more determined fighter. He was in serious danger from the beginning. Fantastic work by the ref!

The ref earned his pay

Vernon was clever and tactical at the right time from the 4th round on until about the 9th. He was tired and hanging on. It must have taken alot out of him in rounds 2 and 3. He clinched in the beginning of the mid rounds and then he would steal those rounds in the last 45 seconds or so. Kudos to Vernon Forest for being a crafty warrior. RIP

That was the most hurt and Trouble Ive Ever seen Shane Mosley in a fight I thought Shane Mosley was gonna get knocked out by Vernon Forrest in that Second RD but Kudos to Mosley he hung in there tough Surviving against the Talented Dangerous Vernon Forrest

@HarryHeath-pb6rv

7 ай бұрын

I know most guys wouldn't have made it out that round

Vernon was in Shanes head before this fight, I remember back then. The same way that other fighter was in Vernons head before they fought Mayorga. Sometimes a fighter has your number. They were all warriors and was not ducking each other either. Mayweather is my man and all, but he mentioned folks ducking him long ago. I think fighters was not checking for him, he wasnt even their size to be honest, they didnt fear his knockout power or anything and they all loss before so they wasnt protecting their undefeated stats. Mayweather might have been lucky that a lot of guys didnt take him up on his talk back then.

Good evening as a fan former ref and a known stats person l respect both champs.Shane never got the credit he earned after fighting the best of his era .The only questionable decision he ever got was his second fight with Oscar l think he lost RIP Vernon

@pgee1errrr92

Жыл бұрын

He was on peds his whole career admitted and testified so no.

This version of Vernon would have given Floyd hell.

FIGHT WAS GOING GOOD THEN ALL THE HUGGING STARTED.

@barrydaryle7817

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@ruffgodz9543

Жыл бұрын

If you're getting hurt or getting tired, you need to clinch in order to regain your energy lmao

It was nice watching this with no commentary whats so ever. I could hear all of the blows and they were throwing leather

a more tyson-esque bob and weave style wouldve gone a long way for mosely in this fight... but the style he had got him to where he was and when it does that i suppose youre not apt to adjust it.

Man did Vernon give Shane the business this night. I'm not sure this was anything other than a UD for Forrest.

The head butt affected shane

@jermainebynum2647

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for that round

Back when fighters used to get down to business

No commentating! I love this!

Veron rest in heaven 🙏 u was the truth 💯

@shuntavaisjohnson345

Жыл бұрын

I hope so

Forrest held all night, boxing 🥊🥊

Two 30 plus win undefeated fighters. Rare indeed.

The electricity in that room

RIP Vernon

@juliusluisventura2095

2 жыл бұрын

@Randall Meloncon he has been dead for 12 years

Wow NO commentary 2 manipulate U on who is winning and who isn’t!?!?!? This is GR8!!!!!!!! What a Fight!!!!!

Defense was never Shanes thing and he was always ot of positon.He had that bad amateur habit.Of putting his head back.Thats perfect for someone with long reach.

Ok, I remember being in Vegas that weekend for a wedding. Championship Sunday was the next day as Drew Bledsoe came in for a banged up Tom Brady n led the Pats to SB win #1. The tuck rule game was 2 weeks prior to this, so it marked the beginning of the curse on the Raiders, setting off 2 decades of forgettable football by the Silver & Black. Since the wedding & reception was Saturday, I missed this fight. As i walked into the sportsbook, I was shocked when i saw Vernon doing the post fight interview at ringside, saying how his jab nullified the speed of Shane. Now I am watching this for the first time and Vernon took it to Sugar who, to me at the time, seemed unbeatable as a pro. And VF did it twice....I really miss boxing, and the Raiders being relevant......Vernon Forrest...champ.....RIP, warrior!!!!

Unintelligent boxing indeed from both sides, more like a bar brawl than boxing.

Shane’s pops a sorry corner man my goodness he wasn’t giving him any good advice

I give credit to Mosely getting up and finishing that fight, he took tremendous punches from Forrest. the jabs from Forrest took Mosely out of his game plan and he didn't have plan B. I didn't approve Mosely Sr coaching him though, he seemed unqualified and gave poor advice . at a gas station a dude robbed Forrest his wallet at gun point but made the mistake of chasing the robber and got shot. Mosely had trouble with highly technical boxers like Winky Wright(2x) , and Canelo too. he's The only boxer to almost knock the snot out of Mayweather so kudo's to him for that. glad to see Mosely is out of the game and he is still lucid and his son is a fine boxer from what I have seen.

P.S. I love how there's no commentary.

Shane wasn’t the same after the cut

Fascinating to watch without the commentary.

Sugar Shane Mosley vs Forest is a classic

@orlandorodriguez262

Жыл бұрын

Ricardo Mayorga le ganó 2 veces a Vernon. En la primera pelea lo noqueo y en la revancha Mayorga le ganó nuevamente, esa vez por decisión.

Back then, all boxers who contracted some match fights to HBO, all of them lost next fight of they contracted.

Loving the live audio without commentary. Would love to watch them all like this.

🙏 Rip Vernon Forrest

The Head-butt helped Forrest.

@anteongoestill8068

Жыл бұрын

Beat him the second time too

Curious as how the fight would’ve went without the headbutt

R.I.P to the Vipor!

Shane got rocked in between 9:18 and 9:30

Shane wasn’t expecting that body shot….had me hurtin’

Mosley fought everybody. Well back in these days, everyone fought everyone for the most part. But whenever Mosley had issues beating someone, he kept losing to them. This fight probably should have been over in the 2nd round. Mosley took a lot of punishment

@LuisHernandez-oj5bm

Жыл бұрын

Facts his speaks a bit punchy. He took punches that few Could take.tough as nails. Mosley really fought everyone. Beat margarita when everyone Was ducking him. He might have the best resume In the era.

@BruteStrength99

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisHernandez-oj5bm well everybody wanted Margarito after he gave Cotto the beat down because it gave him big money superstar status. Mosley- Margarito was the biggest money fight that could be made at Welterweight. Pacquiao had gone down to 140 for Hatton and said he planned to stay there. As far as money went Mosley and Margarito really had nowhere else to look for money except Cotto and themselves. That fight had to happen.

@davelouie131

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisHernandez-oj5bm Oscar Dela Hoya had a top notched resume as well.

@austinlittke5580

Жыл бұрын

do u think mosely ducked mayweather (or vice versa)?? i dont remember those times good

@lenhalz8086

8 ай бұрын

@@austinlittke5580 I honestly dont think he gave Mayweather much thought. Because nobody in those days thought that mayweather could Knockout Mosley. I think Mosley was focused on other fighters his size or bigger than him. Would have been an interesting fight way back, but I guess it is what it is. Mosely still had a good career. He didnt duck anyone, and fought folks 10 times more dangerous than Mayweather. When he fought them. He fought them in their primes. Mosely did.

This is a very competitive fight

This was a great fight but I think I should have been stopped in the second round.Shane took alot of punishment in this fight

@harryheath9928

2 жыл бұрын

How on earth did Sugar Shane survive that second round And finished the fight!

@seankeys5384

2 жыл бұрын

@@harryheath9928 alot of heart,he was undefeated at the time so he had a strong will just like holyfield vs bow 1 and people that didn't like evander before that fight I'm sure he won people over even in defeat.

Vernon best Mosley in the Amateurs as well. Too bad Vernon lost his life.

RIP referee Steve Smoger (one of the best referees ever!) and Vernon Forest. 💔

shane was such a jittery fighter lol, his style annoyed me but he had sum pop and pretty quick

Plus shane was on that stuff

Shannon coach wasn’t telling him nun😭

It seems like after that knockdown, Shane wasn't the same since..It look like the wind was knocked out of him for the rest of the fight..

I was watching Shane vs Winky wright today Vernon Forrest they both had his number in his prime but you know so what he didn't duck anybody and literally was always looking for the toughest competition to compete against and in his prime he was 38-0 35 by knockout at 135 .. you really got to put Shane in the conversation for greatest lightweight sure when he moved up to welterweight he won some lost some but the man fought everyone... I don't know why but I'm thinking about Mayweather saying he look like Shrek in his green suit at the prese conference anybody else remember that lmfao

Vernon had power in both hands and worked nonstop rip champ

That's how Crawford going to be looking July 29th