Shaming Men About Housework - TFF Episode 67

Shaming Men About Housework - TFF Episode 67
Yet another feminist inspired study is conveniently, and falsely, interpreted in order to "prove" that men are not pulling their weight. Professor Fiamengo tears the study apart in episode 67 of The Fiamengo File.
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FF-081 Shaming men about housework

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  • @sebaceous
    @sebaceous20 күн бұрын

    Im gay. Every woman who I have lived with has told me that how I do chores is wrong. They criticize me until I stop doing any and then they can enjoy complaining that I do none.

  • @CB-vt3mx

    @CB-vt3mx

    17 күн бұрын

    this is a whole story of its own. How one can "fold the towels wrong" is beyond me, but I've never met a woman who did not make an issue of it.

  • @wendellbabin6457

    @wendellbabin6457

    14 күн бұрын

    0:49 I wonder who decides, say, in Military Boot Camp for female Recruits. I am thinking the Army(or other service's) way will rule the day, but not without "disagreeableness".

  • @leebennett1821

    @leebennett1821

    2 сағат бұрын

    If men stopped working the world would fall apart I say we should and let these silly femmenist come crawling back on their hands and knees begging for us to return

  • @joanr3189
    @joanr318921 күн бұрын

    Now in my eighth decade, I have yet to see an intelligent commemt about housework, housekeeping, house management from a simgle feminist, in spite of the noise and volume of their words. They do love the sound of their own voices though.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    Don't worry she is going to be paying someone else to do her house work, because lets face it if she has time to complain and make stupid vids she is not a part of the working class people that are trying to support their families in any way they can (men and women). These are the same kind of people that go out of their way to divide and destroy strong healthy families to leave them isolated, desolate, and vulnerable all the while making themselves wealthy and living the complete opposite lifestyle. They are so out of touch with reality for normal people, Sickening.

  • @sneezyfido
    @sneezyfido21 күн бұрын

    So first stay at home wives set the standard at their providing husbands share half the household chores anyway. And now women are salty that stay at home husbands uphold the same standard. Consistency was never a strong suit, was it

  • @suzannederringer1607
    @suzannederringer160721 күн бұрын

    Housework is overrated. Just do as little as possible to keep the place fairly hygienic and functional. My Grandma made Housework her entire field of activity. Grandpa, who worked in a Steel Mill, was responsible for cutting Grass and Hedges, Snow Removal, anything requiring heavy Lifting, and basic Plumbing and Electricity.

  • @effexon

    @effexon

    21 күн бұрын

    I think it is still very same... all outhouse apartment/indoors is "man's chores". that is some basic instinct. Otherwise women spend 30-60min choosing clothing and makeup to prepare stepping out of house. This hasnt changed even in nordics and married women(who by all logic dont have anything to show for at that point).

  • @jtully79
    @jtully7921 күн бұрын

    Nailed it again Janice. Thank you

  • @kyuubimadara
    @kyuubimadara21 күн бұрын

    Another thing to point out is that mothers spending more time with the children is constantly used by feminists to show how men have it easier in their household. When in reality, this usually indicates the time with their children that men have to sacrifice in order to provide for them. I doubt any parent who ever decided to have children would be loathed to spend time with them even if it requires patience and work. But feminists have consistently framed this as a burden instead of a privilege

  • @philliphickox4023

    @philliphickox4023

    21 күн бұрын

    Look up Maternal Gatekeeping

  • @Rikalonius

    @Rikalonius

    21 күн бұрын

    I probably go to more events with my daughter than my wife does because of her odd hours as a personal trainer. I see just as many dads these days as I see moms. They are dads, like me, that rush home in traffic to pick up our kids and then take them to a sport, or go to some school event or just take them to the park. Additionally, and i know this is anecdotal. The men I see are usually more invested, while most moms are deep in their phones.

  • @matlabatt

    @matlabatt

    21 күн бұрын

    They hate children cause they are children. More sonthe ones who tried hard drigs and went to rave parties. Completly useless as parents/partners. They pretty much vegetables.

  • @grisflyt

    @grisflyt

    16 күн бұрын

    Really? I'm not saying motherhood is this big chore, but it is taxing. Having children is a huge sacrifice. If you have children, you don't work 9 to 5. You work 9 to 9. 5 days a week. You tell me about the privilege of being sleep deprived for 10-18 years. But I guess this is a privilege for women. My guess is that you are 17-19 yo typing this is your parents home.

  • @kyuubimadara

    @kyuubimadara

    10 күн бұрын

    ​ @grisflyt I think you ignored the part that I said that taking care of children requires patience and work. When I say it is a privilege, that in no way implies that it does not require work. I'm saying it is a privilege because if you're a parent, you would rather spend time with your children than spend time at work. Because you already made a decision to have kids, that implies you want this time with your children. The set up where the father sacrifices time with their children in order to provide for his family is to the advantage of the mother. And fair enough, being sleep deprived because you have to wake up to a crying child is a hassle. But one, that is no way a responsibility exclusive to the mother. That is a shared responsibility by both parents. And two, there is no way that exists for 10-18 years, at most that is three years. After that the mother's household duties actually starts to lessen with the child being taken care of in school and even having them even do some of the chores to ease her burden.

  • @Blakmage3
    @Blakmage35 күн бұрын

    Housework nowadays has been completely warped into having a home looking like a doctor’s clinic. It’s unsustainable and causes lots of unnecessary stress. Who set this impossible standard? Women, of course. Our mothers and grandmothers weren’t as anal about cleaning and tidying as modern women are. Anyone who grew up in a house before the 2000s will remember how cluttered a home was with collections and glass displays of Knick knacks taking up all the space. Now, if the space isn’t show house ready, the goblins in the woman’s head start to throw tantrums.

  • @mstorgaardnielsen
    @mstorgaardnielsen21 күн бұрын

    Add to that, men typically commute longer. And men are pensioned later. Large scale studies in DK shows the same.

  • @sneezyfido

    @sneezyfido

    21 күн бұрын

    Plus men tend to not live long after retirement. Even our retirement payments are spent on women.

  • @loganblackwood2922

    @loganblackwood2922

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@sneezyfidoAmongst the working class in Britain, 20% of men die before retirement but it hadn't stopped them putting the age of retirement up for men first.

  • @sneezyfido

    @sneezyfido

    21 күн бұрын

    @@loganblackwood2922 in NL they increased age of retirement across the board. For my cohort it gradually went up from 65 to 72 and they're already warning that it may need to be pushed up more. Meanwhile the workload is increasing sharply because previous generation is still retiring at 60ish, and that's not counting the numbers who used very generous arrangements to go at 55. Those come with either saving up during good times (with my generation not saving much at all due to increased expense and taxation) or working in any kind of government sector.

  • @SuperiorMoon
    @SuperiorMoon21 күн бұрын

    Like you said Dr Fiamengo, I learned a long time ago that men and women prioritize different things. Women are generally much more meticulous about cleaning and laundry etc.

  • @effexon

    @effexon

    21 күн бұрын

    yea, they are totally happy to leave roof leaky or broken tv but boy toilet and kitchen must be clean and food made just the right way.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    It's how we are raised and what we are programmed by media and propaganda, which this vid clearly is fem-inist propaganda.

  • @Nazareneprotestant

    @Nazareneprotestant

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@effexonso you're ok with a filthy toilet? Lol

  • @CB-vt3mx

    @CB-vt3mx

    17 күн бұрын

    where have you seen that in real life? From my mom, sisters, wife, daughters, they only really care about cleaning when someone might see it. Otherwise, they are disgusting pigs. Every one of my friend's wives are pigs. their definition of "cleaning" is outwardly focused. For an example, take a look at any woman's bathroom counter top...LOL

  • @albionboi8091
    @albionboi809121 күн бұрын

    Nice to see you back on KZread

  • @geobloxmodels1186
    @geobloxmodels118621 күн бұрын

    I am more efficient in getting work done at work than my female coworkers, and more efficient at home on chores than my gf. So, time may not be the best measure.

  • @RandallvanOosten-ln5wf

    @RandallvanOosten-ln5wf

    21 күн бұрын

    Hahaha...I have been married 52 years and I believe I am far more efficient at both house and yard work. I also take care of the cars, all the house repairs, the garage, and I pay all the bills. I also cook most of the meals and do most of the grocery shopping.

  • @poopingwhilestanding5801

    @poopingwhilestanding5801

    21 күн бұрын

    @@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf So other than sex, what exactly does she bring to the table again? Sounds like an expensive 304.

  • @reneburger4317

    @reneburger4317

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf so she's just pretty, i hope?

  • @matlabatt

    @matlabatt

    21 күн бұрын

    What do you think these modern woman are good for? Other then vacations and wanting to party like teens

  • @nolongeramused8135

    @nolongeramused8135

    20 күн бұрын

    Additionally, men are typically far less messy than women. My standard go-to is when I worked as a janitor at a major retailer; the absolutely most disgusting thing to clean was the female employees restroom. With guys the worst you had to do was unclog a toilet and mop up the pee around the urinals; women routinely spray shit all over the walls and ceiling.

  • @anotherfreediver3639
    @anotherfreediver363921 күн бұрын

    There's also a lot of 'hidden work' done by both sexes in some professions that goes unrecorded, because it's unpaid. Teachers, analysts, researchers, lawyers, medics, and a lot of other professions are expected to do a lot of reading and preparation in the evenings that's non-chargeable. Then there's travel at weekends for work, to be in the right place, bright and early, on Monday morning. Recording work hours accurately is almost impossible.

  • @broken927
    @broken92721 күн бұрын

    A completely unnecessary study as this is an issue to be dealt with at the individual family level. Why should I care what the division of labor is in your household?

  • @effexon

    @effexon

    21 күн бұрын

    yet other countries (communist) are blamed to intervene in family life but this kind of western micromanagement and pressure has been "fine" for decades.

  • @pukeachu

    @pukeachu

    21 күн бұрын

    Sadly, The Manosphere has, since about the first year of it'sinception, been emulating The Woke Left's predilection for trying to paint such matters as ones which require collective action, instead of matters of individual choice. Odd, given that so many of these folks also claim to be Libertarians or Classical Liberals

  • @klisetj

    @klisetj

    21 күн бұрын

    Because they want to remove/replace the family unit, replaced by the state of course. It's really no different than communism.

  • @wolfgangkranek376

    @wolfgangkranek376

    19 күн бұрын

    What you are saying can be applied to most issues in a relationship. The point is, that there a forces in society that try to push a certain narrative and ideology onto people. And that makes it worth talking about in a general way, even if it's not of any interest for you.

  • @enid9911
    @enid991120 күн бұрын

    My former best friend decorated her her and her boyfriends apartment the way she likes it. The bedroom was painted in pink for instance and later on she even occupied the gaming room that was made for him. So he had basically no place of his own anymore and the whole apartment was full of kitsch. How can we blame men that they don't want to clean around all the useless crap women buy?

  • @anotherfreediver3639

    @anotherfreediver3639

    16 күн бұрын

    The sign of a personality problem here, I think.

  • @CB-vt3mx
    @CB-vt3mx17 күн бұрын

    all I can say is this; it takes my wife 3 days to do laundry, but it takes me 3 hours to do the same laundry. She will need all day to clean the kitchen--a chore I can knock out in less than an hour. If you ask her, the time watching tv is, in her mind, part of the time taken. We've been married 27 years, so it's a whatever to me, but I do enjoy reminding her that if she would just do things instead of working 10 minutes and taking a 45 minute (or 8 hour) break, she would also find that the housework in our small home would take far less time. LOL

  • @StudioBrule

    @StudioBrule

    17 күн бұрын

    She knows it, she's playing you.

  • @jaydamalley3398
    @jaydamalley339821 күн бұрын

    How such a simple question is somehow still relevant..

  • @puniversy
    @puniversy15 күн бұрын

    Not being married, my personal observance is based on how long it takes a man to pay for his groceries compared to the woman in front of me that is seemingly unaware that she should have her shit at all together, and at least not dig around in here purse for five minutes only after being rung up. Then one should observe the time difference between how long it takes a man to start his car and roll out of his parking space (generally five seconds or less) as compared to a woman, who on average takes several minutes of pointless fucking around. A ten minute run to the store takes a man ten minutes, for example.

  • @ChristnThms
    @ChristnThms19 күн бұрын

    Two take-aways I've got from relationships in the past: 1. When a woman says she spent X hours doing a chore, the goal was to claim those hours as leverage rather than to finish the task quickly and efficiently. A guy would do the task much faster, because he's never going to get any credit for it and just wants to be done with it. 2. The vast majority of "housework" isn't actually necessary. It is the woman's preference, but she'll claim it as a community project so that she can guilt him into participating. Then, of course, she'll also claim to be solely responsible for "his" high quality of life. Ladies, have you seen how a guy lives when he's a true bachelor? 1 chair, 1 towel, a TV, minimal kitchen, minimal bathroom... this is fine for us. Maybe you want things nicer, and that's fine. But you're not making OUR lives better... at all. You're making your own life better, and we don't owe you anything for it. In fact, you're taking space and simplicity away from us, so maybe have a little fucking consideration before you make changes.

  • @CB-vt3mx

    @CB-vt3mx

    17 күн бұрын

    ding ding ding!!!! This is the number one answer.

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused813520 күн бұрын

    Considering that women don't do housework, cook, yard work/landscaping, laundry, take care of the spiders, take out the garbage, or perform household repairs, I'm left wondering what it is, exactly, they think they do to maintain the household besides uncontrolled shopping and shoveling take-out into their face.

  • @Treblaine

    @Treblaine

    19 күн бұрын

    "My relationship is NOT transactional, you're supposed to LOVE me unconditionally!"

  • @nolongeramused8135

    @nolongeramused8135

    19 күн бұрын

    @@Treblaine Yeah, I already have a dog..... 🦮

  • @user-ox6nc6ly7f
    @user-ox6nc6ly7f20 күн бұрын

    mowing lawn, taking care of the pool, fixing things, oil change on cars... to me it IS housework. is she willing to exchange them for laundry and cooking? i am.

  • @geoffhart
    @geoffhart21 күн бұрын

    Please add the original air date in the description - that is important context (especially when "recent studies" are referenced).

  • @yvs6663
    @yvs666321 күн бұрын

    wait. so how do stay at home parents make it, exactly? i mean even if they work one job with 50h/week, there is also between 76h and 100h of childcare and housework. a human being supposedly need 8h of sleep and we can't really deviate from it for too long. its almost like someone in this study is exaggerating the numbers, specially if they are living in an apartment. also, i wonder how many batchelors do less domestic work than men married to stahm and manage to keep themself fed, clean and their apartments tidy.

  • @matlabatt

    @matlabatt

    21 күн бұрын

    When you a bachelor the woman help with the housework all the time. And even Happily. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Wives tho? hell no they bitter and lazy. 😅😅😅

  • @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
    @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle20 күн бұрын

    Wait...at the beginning.....did she say they are mad the men aren't doing enough despite already doing more at home?! The disparity isn't high enough?!

  • @gregorschoner9682
    @gregorschoner968221 күн бұрын

    It’s quite possible that among the very small number of men who stay at home there are more than average numbers of men with some form of injury or disability….

  • @calebland6246

    @calebland6246

    20 күн бұрын

    Or men like me were stay at home fathers, but also worked on weekends and after my wife got home… Maybe they were out in the dual work category… A lot of stay at home dads I have talked to had side hustles and part time work. Either way, feminists trying to one-up men is not constructive.

  • @bphennesy
    @bphennesy21 күн бұрын

    We're awesome!

  • @SociallyTriggered
    @SociallyTriggered20 күн бұрын

    I own my own business and work 7 days a weeks and on average about 100 hours per week. My wife works about 35 to 40 hours per week. I do about 10-15 hours of work around the house and she does about 25-30 hours of house work per week. Everyday she complains about how lazy I am and how I don't help around the house. My kids even see me as lazy as a result. It is a miserable existence.

  • @calebland6246

    @calebland6246

    20 күн бұрын

    Wow, that’s awful. Maybe you need to record all the work you do at your business and around the house to show her. It’s unfortunate that you would even need to do that, honestly.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

    19 күн бұрын

    Just stop doing anything at home, period. Spend more time at work, and let your family to learn how to fix things by themselves.

  • @rickybobby8616
    @rickybobby861621 күн бұрын

    When are people going to start to point out the obvious? They think this is holding women back from achieving in the corporate world. If something like housework is stopping women from achieving than they are not ambitious enough.

  • @StudioBrule

    @StudioBrule

    21 күн бұрын

    Or maybe if housework is so stressful then you can't handle the workplace.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

    19 күн бұрын

    @@StudioBrule How? I'm single and I just need two hours at Saturday to get everything done! It's women making unnecessary steps, going from one thing to another leaving unfinished tasks behind, just to show they're oing something but getting nothing done.

  • @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
    @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle20 күн бұрын

    One important detail that wasn't covered. There are times where the man will do the work, but then the woman redoes the work or spends time "correcting" it despite there being nothing objectively wrong with the man's job. She is absolutely entitled to her preference, but that is on her, not him. I wonder how many hours of the domestic work in this study were spent on redoing the man's work or done by the woman because the man is barred from the job for not doing it the "right way."

  • @joelsjostedt4936
    @joelsjostedt493621 күн бұрын

    Maybe, just maybe, there are preferential differences between the sexes on how clean a house needs to be? Perhaps men and women prioritize things differently. Often I´ve heard the argument that women become burnt out from the stress of having to do both employment and housework and this is the man's fault because of the difference in hours spent on chores. In some of those cases, maybe the women could take after the men and prioritize recovery over unhealthy perfectionism?

  • @MrKangdon
    @MrKangdon21 күн бұрын

    Keep up the good fight, Janice. Ya bloody legend.

  • @manonymous4737
    @manonymous473721 күн бұрын

    I spent 5 hours this weekend clearing up the garden, how much time did the women in the survey spend mowing the lawns, weeding, clearing gutters, clearing away vegetation? (Sorry, i just heard Janice mention this at 7:10, but i’ll leave this comment here anyway, for upvotes)

  • @johncrow5552
    @johncrow555221 күн бұрын

    A man is asked, how long did you spend on housework? "well, I put the washing machine on a 60 minute cycle so...10 minutes". A woman is asked, how long did you spend on housework? "well, I put the washing machine on a 60 minute cycle so...60 minutes".

  • @matlabatt

    @matlabatt

    21 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂this is true. Meanwhile they on nutflixx watching some mirder mysteries like a psychopath.

  • @WallyPyneoil
    @WallyPyneoil16 күн бұрын

    Of course, men shouldn't do all the housework when they are stay at home Dads. They should moan at their wives to do their share, and outside chores, like mowing the lawn, clearing the gutters, pruning trees, etc, should be left almost entirely to the working women. That's how I found it as a working man with a stay at home wife.

  • @themanwithnoname9578
    @themanwithnoname957821 күн бұрын

    Grandma got a lot balls saying it out loud.

  • @nickhall7763
    @nickhall776320 күн бұрын

    A soon as I hear the words “a recent study suggests” I move on.

  • @imnoone492
    @imnoone49221 күн бұрын

    A study? Really? I don’t think so…..

  • @danpress7745
    @danpress774521 күн бұрын

    My wife recently pushed me to help wash the cloths, I asked her to help me do the three page honey do list. Her demands was quickly retracted.

  • @debrawehrly6900

    @debrawehrly6900

    21 күн бұрын

    If that were me, I would have helped with the household repairs and upkeep. When I was a teenager, and even younger, i had a lot of outdoor chores to do, including mowing the lawn, trimming the bushes, pulling the weeds, ect...I have even helped my Dad with painting the house. I think minor repairs and upkeep can be performed by most people if they are given instructions on how to do. Another example was that my mother and I both assembled a bed frame together as well as a lawn mower. Another example was when my washer had stopped working. I called a technician but he could not fix it. Finally, my roommate's daughter offered to help. At first I was skeptical, but she actually fixed the washing machine and it has never had another issue since then. The problem with Ms. Fiamengo's videos is that they are very one sighted. She appears to be just as biased and short sighted as many feminists appear to be. Playing the "victim card" is not unique only to women or feminists.

  • @drivethruabortion280

    @drivethruabortion280

    21 күн бұрын

    Your thread was hijacked by Debbie. Your story pales in comparison.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    The fact that you've accepted this list, write her name at the top and say if you want it done do it yourself, most men don't ask f-uck all in relationships and generally just get used and abused. She'll slowly add more and more to that list while doing less and less.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    Men also generally do the difficult heavy lifting type of work so pound for pound we simply do more, so quiet down about fluffing your feather pillows foolish woman. 😂😂😂😂

  • @matlabatt

    @matlabatt

    21 күн бұрын

    Pathetic. Why donwe put up with this shit. Are you guys nuetered?

  • @nickchannel5364
    @nickchannel536421 күн бұрын

    You look just as good as when I first discovered your channel, four years ago?

  • @englishpayerofgermantaxes8186

    @englishpayerofgermantaxes8186

    4 күн бұрын

    That's because these recent videos are repeats

  • @Fakeslimshady
    @Fakeslimshady21 күн бұрын

    "But men are so lazy!" is literally an excuse to implement unequal laws. It's not even about oppression anymore. This issue might seem comparatively benign but in reality it's anything but.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    Who is the lazy one if the laws are not equal.

  • @Fakeslimshady

    @Fakeslimshady

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Wolfengemoen ...the government?

  • @matthewatwood8641
    @matthewatwood864120 күн бұрын

    Housework is easy. This isn't the 19th century. This is really a non-issue.

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars200321 күн бұрын

    Too many hours working regardless! Do less, do it better!

  • @withowlseyewatch
    @withowlseyewatch21 күн бұрын

    Should women be shamed for doing housework? Or should they be shamed for not doing housework?

  • @effexon

    @effexon

    21 күн бұрын

    women tend to do things when someone is watching. they also watch other people when possible.

  • @Wolfengemoen

    @Wolfengemoen

    21 күн бұрын

    I don't think shaming is necessary, if she wants it clean then she can clean it, if she's tired then she can rest. If she rests all the time and and the man wants a clean house he can do it himself, hire a maid, or replace her with a woman that wants to work.