Talion: I HAVE FOUGHT THIS WAR ALONE!! Eltariel: You are not alone. Me: That's right, our one true ally....Ratbag, what a lad.

@Rtr-oh1mz

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao how ironic an orc is our only true friend in a game where they are the enemy.

@brotatoman665

2 жыл бұрын

Best bro

@layout110

2 жыл бұрын

Eltariel

@30cal23

Жыл бұрын

ratbag the bro!

@multiverse_media2023

Жыл бұрын

Where is he and Ranger? Did they leave Mordor or traveled to where Baranor and his brother are at?

Ratbag was the only true ally ,he's the only one who deserves a DLC

@evgeniydeus8137

6 жыл бұрын

He's not a woman.

@RegularStupidPeople

6 жыл бұрын

Evgeniy Deus and?

@jjkk11999933222233

6 жыл бұрын

all the PC fuckers wanted diversity in their games, so they added a Black dude, a female knight, a female elf AND two CHINESE FEMALE Nazguls in this game. Seriously, wtf. Not to mention they all seriously destroy the lore of the Middle Earth.

@RegularStupidPeople

6 жыл бұрын

John Kang to be fair ,shadow of Mordor already had two dlcs and they were as bad as this one, Even with celebrinbor and another gondorian as main characters, it's not really a diversity thing, it's more a "choose to use the least story relevant characters to follow and the stories don't Even add up twisting the lore into it", i would wanted yo see a DLC based on what happened with lithariel ,i mean Even talion asks himself about it in the game, it sounded just right

@JustSeaN__

6 жыл бұрын

I want a ratbag dlc too

"I Will not dominate these orcs!" Why not? You had no problem with dominating Sauron

@tallstar513

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes gottem

@BleachIsYum

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t elves hate orcs that might be

@Force_Of_Habit

3 жыл бұрын

@@BleachIsYum they do, but that proves my point even further. Why shouldn't she brainwash the orcs??

@dariusnoname12

3 жыл бұрын

She wasn't against dominating nazgul, which are ultimately human.

@Force_Of_Habit

3 жыл бұрын

@THAT GUY good point. All I was trying to say was that it's strange how she refuses to dominate orcs but was totally ok with betraying Talion and dominating Sauron. Her moral compass is broken af

"You speak to me of betrayal" i have never felt words like this before

Galadriel - 'We will go into the west' Eltariel - 'Not yet, i still have collectibles to find'

@danzai

6 жыл бұрын

amazing

@MetaMortis21

6 жыл бұрын

Connor Leonard lmao

@iramosv7al415

2 жыл бұрын

2:06 that is incredibly out of character for her: when any character does an action. that is out their character. They feel more like puppies for the developers. Rather than real living beings will have a will of their own

"I will not dominate these orcs" *a few moments earlier* "We CaN DoMiNaTe SaUrOn"

@chadnorris8257

5 жыл бұрын

In the main game she sarcastically comments "Such loyalty for these Orcs". She wasn't disgusted enough by the idea of dominating Isildur, and she tried to help dominate Sauron. But dominating Orcs is just a step too far.

@joshuaseagondollar2495

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadnorris8257 So she's fine dominating a Dark Lord or the tormented soul of a man enslaved to previously mentioned Dark Lord, but dominating a species created purely to murder and rampage is too far? Hypocritical elf bitch.

@fullofwork

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaseagondollar2495 shes fine in dominating donald trump, but it's disgusted by dominating the retards who defended him in the pentagon. it makes more sense for u now ?

@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullofwork Seems like *someone* doesn't understand sarcasm.

@user-pi7jz7pl4n

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullofwork you can dominate orcs and use against the dark lord. It's like take a sword from your oponent and use to force him to submit

Damn, Monolith, so you're telling me Talion had full intentions of going toe-to-toe with Sauron (which he would've won) but he can't beat Eltariel, a random assassin. This is the same guy who fought like 6 Nazgul *at once* right????

@neiloconnor7776

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@braydenbishop811

3 жыл бұрын

U have a good point maybe the developers thought maybe he would hold back but bad writing overall

@noone-xh3iq

3 жыл бұрын

if the story continue by manage to dominate sauron and celembrimbor take his place then LOTR films will be useless. The developer actually really did their job tho.

@arvinforoughy9115

3 жыл бұрын

yea but keep in mind that she was fighting with nazguls for all her life, so she knows a thing or two

@wizardx2806

3 жыл бұрын

Shes a mary sue

Talion says "I have fought this war alone" Eltariel says " Talion you are not alone" I say "OHH he isnt, so you have watched your family die before you slowly and have been unable to join them, and you have died countless times as well as been cursed and poisend and cant rest in death, and Didnt you cause this by taking the ring in the first place, the one thing that was holding Talion together, Im surprised he hasn't gone crazy like the ork's he shames.

@UMADBRO312

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Barry exactly she doesn’t even feel sorry for leaving him to die and then trying to kill him again he literally could’ve killed her in the beginning I really don’t like her

@Fahad-bk9pc

3 жыл бұрын

@Plo Koon More like cold blooded bitch.

@vexresetz3401

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly shes so stupid I hate her as a whole character

@Leo_Zackular_Art

3 жыл бұрын

Preach ! Haha

@mshark8246

3 жыл бұрын

she is just a mega bitch bro

25:46 Flint went out in a heroic way, he got more respect from me than eltariel ever will.

@mr5yy

6 жыл бұрын

He went out like a badass. Flint deserves a Viking funeral.

@ZaligeBite

5 жыл бұрын

Boom

@Mailed-Knight

5 жыл бұрын

The other Orcs probably ate his remains.

@Timo11042

5 жыл бұрын

@@Mailed-Knight wtf no

@Mailed-Knight

5 жыл бұрын

Orcs eat their dead in the books even in the ones aimed at kids.

i love the look he gives her "i will NOT dominate these orcs!"....* talion turns with glowing yellow eyes *....do i LOOK like i have time to argue??

@Cloofinder

6 жыл бұрын

BluryFilms Talion: "you won't dominate orcs, but will betray me and leave me to die? F***k you". Eltariel: .... Talion: "That's what I thought".

@saunga1

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah; 7:47; Its nice to know that "dark" talion still has his sense of humor.

@janjan5690

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cloofinder THE GENUIS AND THE ONE BHIND THE SCENES

@samaelrow4844

5 жыл бұрын

Talión =god

@cryw1092

4 жыл бұрын

She really wasn't in any position to reject anything on ethical grounds after that little stunt she pulled with Celebrimbor.

29:09 It's just so heartbreaking to see such a strong character to say please. Talion really is one of the most tragic characters in video game history.

@insane-verse

8 ай бұрын

It Almost brought me tears😢

@operationangel7940

4 ай бұрын

Agree and disagree at the same time. Talion was a pretty weak character in the first game due to how generic it was. In the second game you see a slight rift between him and Celebrimbor that is subtle. They still seem to get along, until you realize Celebrimbor would easily leave Talion for dead (AGAIN) the moment he ceases to go along with the flow. He went from generic gritty protagonist version Alpha-2-1 to a damn impressive anti-hero. His betrayal(s) had me in tears as well. You could see it coming, but still couldn’t grasp just how little the Wraith thought of him. The fact that, in the main game, he managed to overcome the influence of a Ring for decades is nothing short of incredible. Only a pure hobbit (Bilbo) has done such a feat. Meanwhile Talion is a man (whom the Rings turn into Nazgul easily) who uses the power of all his enemies to hold them back. Not to win, but to buy time. The plans of his betrayers (Stalemate is Victory), the powers of his enemies (an Undead Army, a Dominated Orc Army), and the seat of power of a city tainted (Minas Morgul). He was a tragedy in the making, one whom I hope gained peace when the One Ring was finally destroyed. No allies will tell of what he did, he knew that. He truly fought his war alone. Yet he did what he had to until he could no longer.

"Seregost is lost" bro, wtf, give me control of Talion, Imma def this shit solo

@levijoseph5262

2 жыл бұрын

😂 lol

@operationangel7940

4 ай бұрын

Dude had a freaking Drake to get out of there. Considering how many legions of Uruks you can waste with one how the hell was Seregost lost?

@Lord-Connor7683

18 күн бұрын

​@@operationangel7940 two nazguls were there I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SAY MUCH BUT WHY THE HELL NOT EH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@operationangel7940

17 күн бұрын

@@Lord-Connor7683 Counterargument: Talion managed to take on multiple Nazgul at once multiple times.

@Lord-Connor7683

17 күн бұрын

@@operationangel7940 oh I know that I just wanted to be the well actually guy for once

That so unfair to Talion ...

@fionnbarrcasey5247

5 жыл бұрын

Vũ Anh Nguyễn talion’s been dealt a shit ton of bad luck

@janisir4529

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, talking about fair, when he is killed in the very beginning of the first game.

@nautilusjupiter6944

4 жыл бұрын

@@jmack2417 They are both dead. Wife=Dead Son= Dead.

@thebananan9322

3 жыл бұрын

Fr i did not like her character and i hate shes the one to take talions life rather then let him die in peace in another cutscene. P.s. he could take her in a fight anyday

@celestialspartan1176

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But, Frodo, Sam, and, ironically, Gollum freed him when the ring was destroyed.

Dude why didn't she just give her ring to talion so he wouldn't have wear the one that was turning him evil. If she takes it off she won't die but he will so that kind of pissed me off because she doesn't need it.

@ancientpickle5857

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan Brice yup, shouldn’t need that to tip you off that she’s a bitch though.

@tommywisaeu9363

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan Brice and she doesn't even dominate orcs or use the special abilities that much so what's the fucking point?

@kevinlopez-kj7rg

6 жыл бұрын

Because she is a level 30 scrub and talion is a level 60 legend that will never be forgotten

@davevd9944

6 жыл бұрын

Cuz plot and she's a massive bitch that serves a even greater bitch. If she gave Talion the ring he would be free from corruption and he would have kicked ass destroyed the rings and basically made the movies absolete.

@fourevercore

5 жыл бұрын

The ring wouldn’t have accepted tailon and we don’t kno enough about her to say she wouldn’t die or something bad wouldn’t happen I don’t understand why people are so salty about him dying

Throughout all of my years of playing video games, I’ve never wanted the character I play as to die. *Then I played The Blade Of Galadriel*

@jackleavens1661

4 жыл бұрын

RyyGuyy16 I used to be an adventurer like you. THEN I TOOK TWO KNIVES IN THE BACK

@danbrown5736

3 жыл бұрын

You played Last of Us 2?

@winstonchurchill7822

3 жыл бұрын

@@danbrown5736 :facepalm:.continue your dumbass hate.go on.

@miguelcondadoolivar5149

3 жыл бұрын

@@winstonchurchill7822 I mean, at least for a while, you are supposed to hate Abby... Even the game is structured that way.

@LiquidxBlack

3 жыл бұрын

@@winstonchurchill7822 Abby is a shit person and an even shittier character, go virtue signal elsewhere.

Eltariel: Talion do not betray the man you once were. Joker: Very poor choice of words.

@SmilingScythe

Жыл бұрын

Talion: Funny thing Eltariel, I seem to have been betrayed by you.

Who else is almost brought to tears by Talion's breaking point

@matthewhadden4196

6 жыл бұрын

Shaco Alon I really liked talion.

@Protectereli

6 жыл бұрын

"such a little thing...."

@plasma_hound1199

5 жыл бұрын

I was, I really liked talking in the first and second game . It pissed me off that celebrimbir would betray him and leave him to die. Not only that but to see him in a state where he constantly loses himself to the ring and has to keep fighting to keep the urak hordes in morder. I really wanted them to destroy Sauron and give talion the peace he deserves

@tristan3072

5 жыл бұрын

Nope I was pissed off yelling at my playstation lol

@tristan3072

4 жыл бұрын

@Plo Koon it's been a year dude I do t even remeber

Yo did they forget who the hero of the story was damn even i feel betrayed

@sahajthind7234

4 жыл бұрын

Plo Koon mm no

@khennu8318

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha, no, a man can't be a hero, we are evil by nature. The age of men is over, the time of the orc... I mean, the feminazis, has come!

@petebeingrenewed5731

4 жыл бұрын

@@khennu8318 We evil by nature? Who the hell got tricked and ate the apple a brought us into this mess?

@Daniil_011

4 жыл бұрын

I just done the game and im still effected ☹️ i feel sooooo bloody betrayed.

@Ghoffman91

4 жыл бұрын

@Plo Koon That sacrifice was never needed. All of it could have been resolved if Eltariel simply gave Talion back the ring. He only relied on Isildur's to preserve his life despite fear of becoming a Nazgul. Unlike Talion, Eltariel won't die from losing it. She didn't because she is too damn stupid to realize that Celebrimbor was just the other side of Sauron's coin. Both want to dominate Mordor, they're just fighting over who gets to do it. Course to be honest I think this way out was intentionally ignored by the developers cause they want a female protagonist now and they don't care how much they gotta piss on the story to accomplish that goal.

How this DLC should have gone. Talion beats her regains the ring and no longer is corrupted and light once more. Eltraiel is put in her place.

@DivineXPotato

4 жыл бұрын

and then what? talion would no longer be corrupted, he would continue to fight if not take the fight directly to sauron and celi. meaning the LOTR movies/books wouldn't happen. the point of this was to try and keep it fit into the main timeline even tho its more fanfiction (they broke some lore, but im honestly fine with it as i still love the story, just doesn't work if your a hardcore tolkien fan and want 100% lore friendly instead of fan fiction)

@quackquack8775

4 жыл бұрын

@@DivineXPotato Maybe Talion kills Eltariel which is what makes him become completely a Nazgul and the story continues as we know it?

@gamemight1028

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@fullofwork

3 жыл бұрын

@@quackquack8775 he became a complety nazgul, he only died years later, that fight ended up with talion running

@goodvibes1525

Жыл бұрын

Except that's not how rings work...

The orcs have more personality then the elf

@sergioplazat3995

Жыл бұрын

Yep 👍😑

@ladyeva9398

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@deznutzuse517

Жыл бұрын

Stupid shortsighted elf

@bambblamb3734

Жыл бұрын

the orcs carried the DLC

"Why is my army weak?!!" - Me, start of the DLC.

@frankpistella5831

6 жыл бұрын

I know right! I spent so much time training my orcs in talion's story!

@dannyjack659

5 жыл бұрын

Because now eltariel the backatabber has to interfere so now Talion is suddenly a worser fighter and his uruks are hopeless so that the traitorous bitch can look like the savior and ruin Talions character.

@tbxmxdog9187

5 жыл бұрын

@@dannyjack659 The whole time she could of just given talion the ring and held mordor by his rule.

@mutualdecline2174

5 жыл бұрын

Tbxmxdog Talion was already corrupted so why would she trust him with the ring of power? Even if he was actively fighting against Saurons armies, he went against Celebrimor for the dumbest reason. He couldn't be trusted.

@MyANTON29

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean "went against Celibrimbor for the dumbest reason" Celibrimbor directly said that he will dominate Sauron and bring order to ALL Middle-Earth, openly admitting that he is going to do absolutely the same thing Sauron wanted to do - conquer Middle-Earth. Talion, on the other hand, wanted to destroy Sauron.

"This ring...is *mine*" Whoa there, 343 Guilty Spark

@stormpants1638

3 жыл бұрын

The Oracle!

@marzouk6270

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo

So, did Talion just kinda forget that she, you know, doomed him to become an immortal slave demon to the entity he swore to defeat?

@NFS0038

5 жыл бұрын

Any excuse to get the wamen to be the savior, narrative logic be damned.

@klumsyninja9073

4 жыл бұрын

She had no loyalty to him. She isn't the one who betrayed him. She isn't the one who traveled with him and then stripped him of the Ring. It's not her fault

@klumsyninja9073

4 жыл бұрын

@@zedfra8014 partly, maybe. Either way, celembrimbor and the archer didn't have similar ideas for what to do. He would have found a new ring bearer regardless

@joshuaseagondollar2495

4 жыл бұрын

He actually does call her out on her shit right before he goes full Nazgul. She says "Don't betray the man you once were," and he basically responds with "Don't speak to me about betrayal when YOU left me to die!" Her and Celebrimbor really fucked him over, and (if the ending showing Eltariel preparing to seek out Celebrimbor after Sauron's death is anything to go by) she's getting ready to screw over the rest of the world too.

@animegamer3782

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaseagondollar2495 I don't think she is seeking him for a friendly reunion...

Since this game doesn't care about the lore and only about the flashy action, give us a DLC with Sauron as protagonist and cut the bs already.

@matthiaslener2763

5 жыл бұрын

That would actually be really fun. I hope someone does.

@jojolafrite90

5 жыл бұрын

Or give us something that happens in the first ages, or even after the third age, when Melkor will be back, and shit will hit the fan!

@tumhornkingslayer6411

5 жыл бұрын

You have to make food for your troops, so they dont starve. I would do that.

@frostywhiskers5292

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder what are the enemies would had been probably humans or more ores?

@hyperion3145

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe a DLC of when Sauron first arrived to Mordor?

How do you make a game where the orcs are more interesting than the main character?

@ianrivera9563

6 жыл бұрын

Julian Marco It's always important to make the villains and supporting cast likable, the Nemesis System does it right.

@romanramos6994

6 жыл бұрын

Put some respect on talions name

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT

5 жыл бұрын

Anyone want to switch sides to mordor

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@ianrivera9563 that and they have the good weapons and back stories

@Todimani

5 жыл бұрын

Booooom

If they do bring out another game they will lose players if eltariel is the main character

@romanramos6994

6 жыл бұрын

She better fucking not be

@erebusvonmori8050

6 жыл бұрын

How the hell is she a better person morally? She's like a how not to do it guide on morality.

@matthiaslener2763

5 жыл бұрын

@@erebusvonmori8050 What are you talking about she's morality incarnate i mean its absolutly moral to just outright try to murder Talion to death for his ring and the connection to Celebrimbor.

@fourevercore

5 жыл бұрын

I like her she is cooler then him to me and I think he was weaker cause he didn’t have original power he had with the ring and yeah betrayal happens did I mention I like her cause of her assassin clothes and blades 😂

@skeletor2012

5 жыл бұрын

Ratbag as the main character ;3

Wow. Talion did not deserve what happened to him. What a true tragedy.

@asniffer6532

6 ай бұрын

LOTR is full of sad stories. Boromir, Saruman, Gollum, Talion, Isildur. It's more about the fall of man and beacons of hope ( Bilbo and Frodo ). It's not a story of victory, but how far one can fall, and how sometimes the most unexpected weak person with enough will power can rise to the challenge.

I saw this in a comment section by: KaiserAfini, this is what he said. KaiserAfini: Funny thing about humans in Middle Earth, they are unbound from fate, they make their own destinies. Elves, on the other hand, are bound by destiny. Sauron is a Maiar, one of the beings that controls the foundations of the world, a mid tiered and fallen one, but a Maiar all the same. So yeah, when Celebrimbor switched away to an elven host, he had already lost.

@lrhty1825

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know where you're getting the idea that Sauron was a "mid tier" Maia. In fact, it's pretty well established that he was one of the most powerful of the Maia. Tolkien even notes in one of his letters that he was "of a far higher order" than the likes of the wizards or the Balrogs.

@8911145533

4 жыл бұрын

dude it's heavily implied that Sauron is the strongest Maia. How a spirit like Celebrombor hopes to dominate him is beyond stupid

@ararepotato1420

4 жыл бұрын

The only one stronger than Souron is his boss. (Whatever his name is) but apparently Talion and Calabrimbor would've been able to dominate Sauron. Calabrimbor's strength came from Talion as evidenced by his loss to Sauron. It is probably why the new ring was so dang strong.

@marzbanofmerv2324

3 жыл бұрын

@@8911145533 Celebrimbor's an Elven wraith, one with a ring of power, first age Elves took out beings far stronger than Sauron so it's not that far fetched.

25:45 Saddest death ever

@saunga1

6 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt. gotta admit though, its one of the most badass ways to go; "Got one word for you, maggot: ....... boom". At least Flint died doing what he loved. No shame in that.

@conservativekid7249

3 жыл бұрын

No talions is

@Minority_hunter..

3 жыл бұрын

@@conservativekid7249 talion didnt die dumbass

@0NeLa0

3 жыл бұрын

@@Minority_hunter.. he didn't?

@holytrinity8888

3 жыл бұрын

Active Aiden Of course not to that Elf Bitch, but from a fireball while riding a Drake.

Eltariel is seriouly one of the worse part of the story. She has no back story, no conflict, just a goddamn assassin who has a job to do. Compared to more interesting and relatable character. Even Bruz was way more interesting than her. In fact even ranger, the orc not Talion, and Ratbag were WAY more enjoyable because at least they have a personality in an interesting coup storyline.

@coreyrhodes9926

6 жыл бұрын

Thinh Vo why couldn't we get a ratbag dlc?

@couchgamingnews9379

6 жыл бұрын

Thinh Vo totally agree

@MissMannah24

6 жыл бұрын

oh and you forgot that she is just a betrayer too ^^no personality, mary sue power, and betraying people for the sake of it. perfect recipe for failure (character)

@joshuakim5240

6 жыл бұрын

Won't lie, i found myself invested in the orcs WAAAAAAY more than Eltariel.

@toadlord8594

6 жыл бұрын

Thinh Vo Ratbag DLC would be so worth it. There's even an interesting way to get started on it. Obviously his intro begins previously after getting bludgeon personally by the Hammer and he grudgingly wakes up to discover the Hammer corpse (killed by Talion of course) and from there...well he's captured by the mentioned Necromancer and cannibals where he meets Ranger.

I think we all know in an actual fight where the player doesn't always win, Talion would have basically destroyed Eltariel with minor effort.

@FraserSouris

2 жыл бұрын

Would he? Eltaherial is an immortal Assassin who has been training for thousands of years. Talion is a regular Ranger with only a few years of immortality.

@PK_SYN

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserSouris that "regular ranger" is ths same person who took on sauron in the first game, beat 5 nazguls at once, and beat the witch king in a fight, talion should be able to destroy Eltaherial

@FraserSouris

2 жыл бұрын

@@PK_SYN I think you should give the games another play. You're missing a few details. *>" is ths same person who took on sauron in the first game""beat 5 nazguls at once, "

@user-zx7zh4ev4e

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FraserSouris oh yes, but look at 4 minutes of the video, if Talion wanted, he would chop her head

@MrDibara

4 ай бұрын

He basically did at the start of this DLC. Disarmed her and had her at his mercy. It is when he is much more weakened from the corruption of the Nazgul Ring that Eltariel actually has a chance. Quick reminder she was still wearing Celebrimbor's Ring during that first fight... and still lost. *Tallion was built different!*

Is it weird I want to play as a Nazgul?

@GrumbleGrimbus

5 жыл бұрын

I would love gameplay of where you play as the Witch King and return the orcs to Sauron's command, and use the freed orcs to take back Mordor

@bobREALOG

4 жыл бұрын

You have fallen to the dark side

@mr.outlaw231

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobREALOG From my point of view, Gondor is evil.

@bobREALOG

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.outlaw231 understandable have a great day

@generalkenobi2131

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.outlaw231 a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

Not a fan of the story of this dlc, I actually preferred just the main game's one where talion just fights the forces of sauron alone untill he eventually turns. This ending wasn't really epic and didn't do Talion justice.

@edotnse1

3 жыл бұрын

That's it

@rayobrown

2 жыл бұрын

The way I see it this dlc is a what if story

@steffanocornejo6129

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayobrown I see it as more of a story within the many years he was fighting. Because we know each time we fought a fortress after the story was to represent the many years of fighting, so maybe this Dlc was the last years before turning

@shadowwolf7219

Жыл бұрын

@@steffanocornejo6129 Yeah that is what I always thought. It is the last years, the first fort (Where we defended it) was a year or two before he turned, The other forts we "helped" were the last year, and the fort assault was year 60 when he turned

I wanted her to die so badly during the entire game.

@azariyelvarro6271

6 жыл бұрын

Why?

@triggeredvirus6784

6 жыл бұрын

The reason why is because during the two games. It was just Talion, sure Celebrimbor and some orcs along the way either made the journey easier or harder for him. But this man has lost everything a warrior holds dear. His pride, his memories of his loved ones and maybe even some of his brothers in arms. He's been fighting tooth and nail to atleast put a dent in the making of the return of the dark lord. Just to have some glorified noble elf to walk in and go " This is mine now, Mary sue for the win ". You cannot deny that this elf is a literal example of a mary sue, I don't care what her backstory is. The main point, Man has more struggles than elves, Elves in this universe are typically your average knife eared pansy spotlight taking thief.

@mberoakoko24

6 жыл бұрын

True , unlike Talion , the she elf has absolutely no honor. She should have perished and dies.

@joujou264

6 жыл бұрын

Joyde I kinda doubt that has anything to do with it, more likely a horribly misguided developer decision after they wrote themselves into a corner.

@Helman114

6 жыл бұрын

They could've had her brutally murdered with a sob scene at the end and NOBODY WOULD CARE.

Hold up. Talion has been fighting for years with Celebrimbor to stop Sauron. Despite this, Celebrimbor suddenly goes completely evil, wants to conquer Middle-Earth, and both he and the 1-dimensional wamen betray Talion and leave him to die. They then fail spectacularly, and Talion is forced to wear a ring that will bend him into an immortal slave of the very evil that took everything from him, while he stands alone to bide time for the rest of Middle-Earth. This is where the main game ends, and while the Celebrimbor betrayal is very stupid, I would be OK if they ended it there and the sequel told the story of Talion defeating Celebrimbor and somehow setting the stage for the regular Lord of the Rings story. But no, somehow it gets even worse. Talion continues the fight, and the she-elf comes back and tries to kill him. How does he respond to this? He forgives her. And then at the end, she ends up letting him turn into a ringwraith? That's the end of our protagonist? And the game makes you play as the bitch, forcing you to deal the final blow to the character that they have destroyed with this disgusting story. Who the fuck wrote this? She is one of the worst characters I've ever had the displeasure of seeing realized. And everyone in this stupid-ass game makes stupid-ass decisions just for the sake of introducing new ways to spit in your face. Talion, representing the Men of Gondor, is completely disrespected by a woman who betrays him not once, but two or three times. Celebrimbor does a 180 just to have this twist so Talion can start turning evil and the wamen has to "save" him. And then two Nazgul are murdered by actual real-life Chinese women, from ancient China, not Middle-Earth. Just so we can have two female Nazgul that proceed to betray Sauron himself, who has actual mind control over the ringwraiths. And then Talion doesn't even get a hero's resolution. His family died and he has been fighting to save Middle-Earth for years, all to end up an eternal slave to evil, cucked by the she-elf. And the writers made him too stupid to realize or do anything about it. Gotta have the man get bested by the woman, gotta have that super duper plot twist, fuck the lore. They actually had the audacity to charge $15 for this.

@undeadm3rcy

4 жыл бұрын

I literally love this comment I agree completely'

@crowx5818

4 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree with a part of your comment. Celebrimbor's twist is something that had been hinted since the Brightlord DLC since he was shown to be extremely power hungry, acting no better than sauron himself and in the end of that dlc he looks at Tallion as just a vessel for his return as he himself proclaims "Finally, all will fear me and rejoice." while Tallion dies during the blood sacrifice.

@arkay4387

4 жыл бұрын

Celebrimbor's betrayal is actually well introduced, because of the context of LOTR [Corruption, power, betrayal, etc] and there's "Asian" people in Middle Earth. But I agree in the Eltariel part.

@johnwinchesterp2963

4 жыл бұрын

Talion's story with celembringor was good and his ending was fitting to this story but eltariel should have been killed for her betrayal. Not a good character to keep around.

@miguelthemoisturizer940

4 жыл бұрын

out of all the comments, this one sums up how i feel the best.

Screw Eltarion and Calebimbo. They did no justice to poor Talion.

@henrycrabs3497

2 жыл бұрын

Celebimbo is an amazing insult

I actually like the fact they gave us interactions with orcs they promised for the main game - recruit orcs without domination.

@lISamuraill

6 жыл бұрын

now only if you could fucking do that after the story lol

@blodmourne

6 жыл бұрын

duno man, They gave it eventually, but only for "storyline" orcs character & locked behind $15 DLC. Not sure what to make about that.

@davevd9944

6 жыл бұрын

Feels a lot better sure you'd need to enslave Orcs to begin but you assume that some Orcs hate Sauron, have ambitions of their own, or would just flock to Talions superior power. So there should have been other ways beyond the obvious enslavement through the ring already got that shit the first game ( minus ring ).

@DivineXPotato

4 жыл бұрын

@@davevd9944 well to be fair, we do have the main game, most of the random uruks that are serving you ARE NOT branded, only the captains, and a lot of them know about and talk about the bright lord. so odds are most of the random orcs that are on your side joined because of various reasons, where as most if not all of the captains joined because you dominated them

Even more lore-breaking than the main game.

@Theseamus2000

6 жыл бұрын

Yijin Yang good thing it ain't cannon

@jardinzen9549

6 жыл бұрын

No ,we are talking about the story,like the nazgul that betrail Sauron,Isildur has a Nazgul,Sauron who is just pathetic,Celebribor that create another ring,Shelobetc.Asian and black exist in both the book and the movie,so no problem with it

@jardinzen9549

6 жыл бұрын

I don't have any idea...Maybe ? And i suppose Warner Bross uses the "It's non-canon" card.

@tylerellis9097

6 жыл бұрын

High Kicks Asian, lol what female nazgul are lore breaking as hell saying as how their clearly described and shown as men, frodo even sees nine men on weathertop you do realize right that their is no East Asian countries in middle earth, khand is kinda mongol like and that's the closest you get easterlings are Persians, haradrim are berbers, corsairs are mixed gondorians with haradrim and the people of unknown far harad are black with white eyes and long red tongues and described as troll men.

@tylerellis9097

6 жыл бұрын

High Kicks Asian, Tolkiens son who help make lotr and made the simarilion, Christopher lives and he blasted the hell out of peter Jackson films for how noncanon they are.

Sorry.. she's a badass and everything, but there's no damn way she could beat talion and even if he was injured.. especially since other Nazgul come out of nowhere and start helping him.. I'm sorry but she's dead! and it's stupid that she didn't just give him the ring back they should have just had it where she left the ring on the mountain and had to leave because she thought she was going to die or something else

@DivineXPotato

4 жыл бұрын

you forget she's been hunting nazgul singlehandedly for years beating talion is a bit of a stretch, but if we're honest in lore talion is likely a lot less badass and most likely has died thousands of times before he becomes a nazgul. so while YOU may be a badass, talion is not, he is a cut above the rest, but doesn't mean he's indestructible

@l0sts0ul89

4 жыл бұрын

@@DivineXPotato Our skills are his skills.

@l0sts0ul89

4 жыл бұрын

@Brant Hall Bruh

@kian_5733

4 жыл бұрын

Divine Potato he was badass enough to stop the power of the main baddy from corrupting his mind for sixty years, holding off his enemies and his eventual fellow peers

@davidsanchez3872

3 жыл бұрын

@@DivineXPotato well lore talion doesn't exist so...

I like how after they fought, Talion's eyes turned to grey, showing that his is still staving off the darkness, even if it wasn't for too much longer

@sergioplazat3995

Жыл бұрын

talion is better than anakin👍😜 jeje

Okay here are the damn issues with this “DLC” 1: The biggest damn plot hole in the world which is why she doesn’t just give the fucking ring to Talion after she basically stole it from him. He’s stronger than her (as seen in the beginning) and that way, she would not have to worry about him falling 2: Basically negates the Shadow Wars and makes it all null-and-void 3: They killed off Talion. I personally loved his ending. How he fought for DECADES until he succumbed to the Nazgul. THATS an ending he deserved; going down swinging and swinging hard. But no. He gets killed by the same fucking bitch HE BEAT AT THE BEGINNING 4: Galadriel is a shitty character. Poorly-written and she loses all credibility for basically stabbing you in the back in the main game 5: That fucking ending makes no damn sense. 6: Female Nazgul... in the fucking movies and books it said the rings were given TO KINGS OF MAN!! KINGS!! I don’t personally give a shit about the Asian kingdom because the books mentioned an eastern land so it’s possible. However, female Nazgul is stupid. If I missed anything, please let me know. In my eyes, this DLC doesn’t exist in the SoW storyline. Talion fell fighting the darkness bravely and died when Barad-dur fell.

@wiegomyegoo7703

6 жыл бұрын

Shadow of Dread you do realize this DLC was literally decades , the shadow wars still happened & talion still died fighting the darkness , she didn't kill him just defeated him & then he came back at the tower & that's when you see him joining the other Nazgul , he died the day the one ring was destroyed , reason everyone is confused because they didn't do a good job at explaining that the DLC took place during those decades that Talion was fighting

@wiegomyegoo7703

6 жыл бұрын

Superslash i feel you on that man this dlc just sucked & it would have been better if they let things the way they were & as for her age , she an elf man , elf's don't really age that's one thing all elf's from all types of lore have in commen they don't age , unlike dwarves & men with the exception of dwarves still living a long fucking time , she can only die by physical wounds so as long as no one slays her as she's gonna be around

@shadowofdread7018

6 жыл бұрын

Diego Vela I agree with Superslash. This stupid DLC didn’t tell anyone how long it was in in-game-time. Also, I don’t care if she only defeated Talion, he kicked her ass at the beginning with what appears to be barely a sweat. It’s bullshit he lost in the second fight.

@serduk8293

4 жыл бұрын

leaders of middle earth were wearing rings of power and one of them was galadriel but i think she wouldn't become nazgul she is too powerful

@MatiPStormblessed

3 жыл бұрын

The Nazgul sisters were stupid, not because they were not kings and from a kingdom we never directly heard of, but because they got the rings from KILLING NAZGULS being just normal humans and because only they managed to betray sauron. (also would have been better if they were from Rhun or Harad not chinese)

Omfg i love the boom brothers...

I think that Talion and Elrariel’s arcs shows the corrupting power of the rings. Talion being slowly corrupted by Celebrimdor over two games, and Eltariel being corrupted over interactions in one game. He plays on her desire for victory over Sauron and the Nazgul over time, and eventually gets her to leave one of her staunchest allies to die.

@whenallelsfails21

11 ай бұрын

It didn't feel like he convinced her to do anything. More like he said "hey you wanna do thi-" and she went "yeswheredoisignup" immediately. She was ready to betray talion like it was nothing.

“Do not betray the man you were.” At least “betrayal” is not in his character which is what I like about Talion regardless of the ring making him slowly a slave, but in spite of that he tries to make sure to get the work done before he is really dead/the enemy. The dedication on in this man even when it is visible that he is gone and is not him talking anymore. Respect+ (I only played the first game, but I watched the cutscenes of the second one. Never watched/read any LotR before, and of course this game is off by a lot, but I kinda got a good grasp on what is going on game lore wise). Any thoughts of what you guys thought about this DLC?

@winstonchurchill7822

3 жыл бұрын

What i hate the worst gameplay wise is that i leveled up all my orc.made pretty strong fortresses.but still talion's forts get defeated 1 by 1.stupid AF.story wise it is crap overall

Wait, this doesn't make sense. The "shadow wars" were supposed to last decades according to the main game's true ending, but the lapse we see between the "eyesification" of Sauron and Talion's final corruption doesn't get near that statement.

@wesleygaray2666

6 жыл бұрын

UselessHit I think he might have had a fallout right there but when she used her powers on him it could have maybe brought him back to his sense and he fought for the rest of the time while she was off doing her thang

@kingfree4382

6 жыл бұрын

wesley garay Not sure, looked pretty serious when he said "Talion is no more" and all that "I serve the Eye now" speech.

@aceacolyte8573

6 жыл бұрын

UselessHit but remember he is banished from dead so he is not dead

@willgriffin9793

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I took notice of that too.

@jasonbourneistreadstone

6 жыл бұрын

How can this happen anyway? Not only is this even more lore-breaking than the main game, but the "true" ending showed Talion on a Drake at Mt. Doom when the ring was destroyed. So... Doesn't this ret-con that ending out of existence?

Tolkien is doing summersaults in his grave at this point...

@alalala12

6 жыл бұрын

Man I laughed out loud, that was great. :))

@sirmonkeys422

6 жыл бұрын

cerberus rex x it's ok, its retardation, but non canon retardation. Books reign supreme

@cerberusrex5275

6 жыл бұрын

ThePursuit OfSymmetry Yeah, but this isn't building upon anything. More like tearing apart the most stable foundations in the fantasy genra. And he must of made this statement on his deathbed, because in life he hated spinoffs and outside meddlings in his own works.

@fastony9659

6 жыл бұрын

There was a point I was ok with the artistic license of the series, but now it's getting bad

@GameLoot

6 жыл бұрын

Why? If you sell the rights to your work you give up all rights to how it is changed in the future (also this is just an alternate universe videogame).

Nazgul Talion was honestly awesome. He finally grew up gave up his personal goal (for a long time) sacrificed his humanity and dedicated his new dark power to do what needed to be done.

I love how in main story talion is built up to be a badass swords man who could nearly never be bested while wearing the rings and even sauron said if calebrembior would have faced him with talion he could have beaten him potentially but in this dlc he's beaten by this her? I find it very hard to believe talion would realisticly have ended her granted it would have been difficult but ended her all the same

@Name-wc2lk

Жыл бұрын

I think he continually gets weaker and weaker as he wears the ring, or when he finally falls to the ring he forgets his abilitys

@numpy979

Жыл бұрын

​@@Name-wc2lk when he falls to the ring that's when he should be even more powerful since the rings power is drawn from sauron

@Wsp8688

11 ай бұрын

@@numpy979actually he is weaker bc of that same reason, he’s fighting two sides, in his mind and with eltariel, plus he could barely walk by the time he fights her, another decisive thing is that Eltariel is wearing Celebrimbor’s ring which is equal in power to that of sauron and even then she had it rough, bc at the start of the dlc she fought him and lose.

31:44 you have no idea how much I love it when talions eyes light up when he says banished and flaming eye

@taliamar8115

Ай бұрын

if i was talion i would rather join the dark lord instead of them two

So the new ring is here, Eltariel please bring it back to Talion, you will only lose two fingers, but Talion will reclaim his life...

At Monolith Productions: "Should we make a DLC of Talion fighting the darkness After the Sauron boss fight?" "Or maybe make a DLC of Talion's life before the Shadow of Games" "Maybe we should do a DLC that shows us the path of Talion when he is a Nazgül..." "Or we make a DLC about the story of Sauron where you play as him" "OH HEY I HAVE AN IDEA!! WE CAN MAKE A DLC ABOUT THAT LITTLE ELF-GIRL THAT NOBODY CARED FOR!!" "OH WOW! FANTASTIC IDEA, WE SHOULD MAKE THIS NOW!!" Edit: Don't get me wrong, i liked Eltariel, but the fact that She and Celebrimbor left ma boi Talion to die just made me hate both

Who is more evil? A fallen man who got betrayed and became the nine Or a Elf girl

@sergioplazat3995

Жыл бұрын

yep the elf girl.....

@deznutzuse517

Жыл бұрын

@@sergioplazat3995 elf girl is a thot

@Leasathpilot

Жыл бұрын

Easy, the elf girl.

@justinmmos7219

Жыл бұрын

is that even a question? the elf girl all the way

@Xavier-cv2vw

Жыл бұрын

the she-elf.

i hate her so much, i will not buy the sequel if she is the main character

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT

5 жыл бұрын

Wasn't the shadow of mordor The first one

@hydreigon2709

5 жыл бұрын

@@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT yes

@hydreigon2709

5 жыл бұрын

@@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT he just hopes for a third entry

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@hydreigon2709 oh okay I see

@robert23456789

5 жыл бұрын

who else could it be shes the only one who will have the balls to go in to morder alone every one else has too much commen sense

Talion and Alex Mercer, two main characters the game devs made you kill... Smh

@fakechloe207

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Mercer might still be alive so..

@noobkiller11790

5 жыл бұрын

@JDremix Talion dies regardless, DLC or not ;(

@danieljanecka9492

5 жыл бұрын

ikr? wtf.

@yourdeath7820

5 жыл бұрын

Who's Alex Mercer.

@danieljanecka9492

5 жыл бұрын

@@yourdeath7820 they called him a killer, a monster... a terrorist. He was all of those things.

19:22 that turn around got me laughing for too long 😂

Seeing that cutscene from the first game feels like it happened so much longer ago than it did

The story could’ve been so much better if that Elf just give the “One Ring” to Talion. Everyone is pretty much loving the shit of of Talion. Bring a new character to end Talion’s story is pretty shit.

@alexghost2099

6 жыл бұрын

Mr. ElmoMouse I could see like the two rings helping yet conflicting him at the same time

@ancientpickle5857

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Ghost 2 rings on one talion. On one hand it could be a recipe for disaster on the other it could be the solution to most of middle earths problems. Get it? He could wear islidurs ring on one hand(disaster) and dicknoses on the other(solution)

@a2t4r75

6 жыл бұрын

Mr. ElmoMouse it’s called the New Ring, the One Ring is Saurons.

@Vejay1990

6 жыл бұрын

I love Talion's character yes but if he died it would be fine (if we go by the good ending), its just this damn elf is a horrible character, especially if they are going to make her the main character in the next game. Who would want to play the one who betrayed our Talion?!

@dirtthefail5883

6 жыл бұрын

DemoWomble some games try and why it backfires so much like halo

At least the orcs were interesting

@Doom_Hawk

6 жыл бұрын

The orcs were the best part once again.

@CsStoker

6 жыл бұрын

They made the DLC playable

@lISamuraill

6 жыл бұрын

I am blade of the ga. BOOM! YOU MAKE AWESOME BOOMS!

@toadlord8594

6 жыл бұрын

Bayonet300 Once more the Orcs and Ologs are the main stars of the "Shadow of" series. I actually felt genuinely sad when Flak Flint sacrificed himself. Honor him with one word: BOOM!😢

@aaronhapgood6383

6 жыл бұрын

The orcs are beautiful

please don't make a game with her as the MC just make a game with tailon in heaven or something

@asgothtbg

5 жыл бұрын

yeah lol

@yourdeath7820

5 жыл бұрын

A game where we shoot down arrows from heaven on our targets will be more interesting.

@cheeseburgerdan1457

4 жыл бұрын

I'd play it if Baranor was the main character

@conservativekid7249

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheeseburgerdan1457 I would like to play as a character like talion but in a newer generation

@cheeseburgerdan1457

3 жыл бұрын

@@conservativekid7249 that'd be awesome I just wonder how they would do it.

The one reason I enjoyed this part of the story, the only reason it ever made sense to me, is because Elty WAS only an assassin. Nothing more than a tool for figures of power like Galadriel. Then she got her hands on REAL power and gained agency of her own. Having known the struggle of just surviving, suddenly being above death itself gave her new perspective, especially having to watch an honorable man she betrayed slowly lose himself while paying for her mistakes. The final fight with Talion was the tipping point that sealed it. A ring of power like that was the only thing keeping her on anything close to an even playing field, and even so I'm almost certain he was still holding back. Seeing into his mind, his past, his motivation, and the consequences of her betrayal was the linchpin that defined her path going forward. That guilt and realization is what goaded her to stay behind and carry on Talion's work after his fall, though clearly she wasn't nearly as good at it as he was (mainly because she wouldn't dominate orcs and can't be everywhere at once). The one thing that would've made her story complete was adding a final boss fight with Celebrimbor where she finally murks his ass--or better yet imprisons him within his own ring, suffering endlessly for his betrayal. With her, of course, being his eternal jailer as penance of her own. Neither ever moving on, either to the West or the afterlife.

When the Orcs started to Chant i heard "Mary sue, Mary sue, Mary sue"

@sarperdogan6454

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah because Talion isn't a Gary Stu. The whole idea that Talion can fight in equal footing against an elf like Eltariel without the help of Celebrimbor is a great honor for Talion.

@strangness7191

5 жыл бұрын

I heard “give me soup, give me soup”

@piedrerol6877

5 жыл бұрын

@@sarperdogan6454 Play the first game, Talion has a backstory. Mary sue just pops up from nowhere and saves the day.

@sarperdogan6454

5 жыл бұрын

@@piedrerol6877 I played the first game. Talion is still a mary sue with that backstory. At least Eltariel could have potentially a reosanable backstory that is not mentioned which could allow her to take on a nazgul whilst Talion is just bullshit maincharacter powers. And we know its that way because we know his backstory... It is interesting they never really expanded on whether he is a Dunedain or not but since he is a Ranger lets give him that... but elf beats Dunedain and nothing beats Sauron...

@piedrerol6877

4 жыл бұрын

@Plo Koon a potato has more backstory than her.

Why you gotta make me fall for these urks i love the brothers

@dr.ivoeggmanrobotnik4011

6 жыл бұрын

The final Sin they are insane and love explosions I like them

@Winslow19

6 жыл бұрын

They are down right adorable

@mr5yy

6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing characters.

@sgt.kanxkix9945

6 жыл бұрын

Same

I almost cried when Flint sacrificed himself. Rest in peace boomster! 😭

Love the unique Orcs in the DLC at least. The one from the beginning was funny listing off everything that has gone wrong. Az-Ranz was the name of an Olog commander I've had since the start so that was neat

If they make a sequel they should make it a story completely about Celebrimbor's alliance and war against Sauron. Sauron was honestly the most interesting character in the game alongside Celebrimbor. That fair form whispering into the ears of kings was awesome. And those transitions of him going between armor form and fair form was so cool! Give me more of all that.

@levijoseph5262

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget both of them worked together at one point. Hmm another dlc opportunity 🤔

This ending was horrible. I really don't want to see eltariel again in the franchise.

@MissChinBK99

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! My sweet Talion is no more TT_TT

@mr.tiddlewiddles7689

6 жыл бұрын

They're literally forced to do this sadly, every AAA title now literally has quotas of at least one black (Baranor) and one female in the cringefest that is the "stronk an' impowa'd" bullshit rhetoric.

@Emory_2004

6 жыл бұрын

Thank god I am not the only one

@Elphirein

6 жыл бұрын

Blades of Galadriel were "stronk" even before all of this political stuff.

@zackwilliam264

6 жыл бұрын

This is the end game the last. if this game still make?what’s is the story the? nazgul are dead Sauron are dead who the villain? There no more of this game I hope.

I thought calibrimbor and talion were friends. I guess not. That made me really sad when calibrimbor left him and then talion becomes evil. :(

@EdgeyStyle

5 жыл бұрын

I knew that Celebrimbor was a son of a bitch since his dlc in Shadow Of Mordor

The ring did more for Talion than Eltariel ever did for him

Wow, the ending is terrible.

@rightwingersexposed8800

6 жыл бұрын

They want to make more DLC or a new game with it/

man what the hell is that ending cliff hanger, is it implying they wanna do more with the lamest character for AFTER the events of the films? Bleh.

@MissMannah24

6 жыл бұрын

one sure thing if she is the main protagonist for the next game im not gonna bother buying it

@volibear7635

6 жыл бұрын

Ratbag DLC or nothing

@willgriffin9793

6 жыл бұрын

If celebrimbor isn’t the main character in the sequel😤😤😤

@filipgabriel1262

6 жыл бұрын

I'll probably buy it but I do hope that,if she is the main character,she will dominate orcs since that is a big part of the game

@ancientpickle5857

6 жыл бұрын

Will Griffin I hope that we don’t play as any of the eleven betrayers, if I have to play as anyone now that talions gone it would be baranor. Slap a ring on dat shit!

i love how slayer fought and fell to talion and was recruited and now he’s like one of the most loyal to him in the cutscenes

What i love about this game is all hard work went into the orks, they are just so damn entertaining.

i wanted another Talion game, but seems we will play her in 3

@robertkennedy7276

6 жыл бұрын

Antilles Gaming I’m not wasting my money on a feminized quota there was literally no reason to introduce this character and to make her the hero at the expense of someone who fought honorably against his will it’s sad that the state of society can be reflected in a fucking video game you can’t safely be male anywhere I guess

@AntillesGaming

6 жыл бұрын

if that's Talion's end, then i hope its over, i don't wanna play her some more, shes so boring

@devinphillips8085

6 жыл бұрын

There is always that other guy that will be in the next DLC

@AntillesGaming

6 жыл бұрын

Same here, "Oh no, Talion is a wraith now, if only I could GIVE HIM BACK HIS RING SO HE CAN TAKE OFF ISILDUR'S AND LIVE" why the fuck does she need the ring anyway? So she can have her ring and pinkie finger? She refuses to use its power so why does she need it so bad, I hated her from the second I saw her, she has that smug attitude about her

@AntillesGaming

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Kennedy she's so boring and has no backstory, she doesn't even need the ring, and I know for a fact that Talion should've won the fight against her

Theory: Eltariel's work was not to kill Talion, but to "restore" his memory. The DLC lasts a few months in-universe, during which Talion is corrupted. However, during the final scene, where he is on the verge of becoming a Nazgul, Eltariel accidentaly reminds him of who he was, allowing him to keep fighting for years without succumbing to the Ring. Galadriel never wanted Talion dead, she wanted someone who could keep the balance. Hence the "Your work is done" despite the fact that Talion hasn't been stopped.

The Elves were the true enemy all along. Sequel should be her causing chaos among the Peace (dominating humans, dwarves, etc)

Plot Twist: Eltariel has schizophrenia. All the voices in her head from Galadriel are just that: voices in her head.

Yknow, would it have been so hard to just, follow the lore? like, the first Shadow of War, slotted into the lore quiet nicely, was in a period of history that was farely barren, and didn't do anything major to the overall world, bar the ending, which lead onto this. so, could they not have just finished Talions story without taking a crowbar to the lore and pissing so many people off needlessly? like, SoW could have just as easly NOT had Sexy-lady-Shelob and non-canon Nazgul Identities, and it would have been just as good. like, story goes much the same, just replace shelob with like, ANY seer type figure, like the queen from the first game, Have the Nazgul Remain unknown, and have it end with Talion realizing Celebrimbor and Sauron are interchangeable, and destroying the new ring, followed by that nice walking into the light ending, or some similar sensible "this is why he wasn't around during the events of TLotR trillogy" ending. and frankly, Eltariel really added nothing, so either write her better, or just remove her entirely, she was basically a Holier than thou bitch, right up until she hypocritically betrayed Talion, then failed big time. and given how this DLC didn't include her begging on her knees for his forgiveness for being such a bitch and driving him to make such a dire fate for himself, then helping him out of said dire fate (by say, giving him the fucking new ring back) it doesn't really endear her. it's just more of the same "i'm going to kill you for being a weak willed human, person i specifically put into the impossible position they're now in" like, her one job, LITERALLY HER ONE JOB, in Mordor was to kill Nazgul, and not only did Talion Claim the only actual Nazgul Kill, SHE was directly responsible for undoing said kill by replacing the Nazgul with a genuinely good guy. like god damn, i LIKE this game, the gameplay, orcs, Talion's character, they're all great. but the story drags it down so hard. Celebrimbor did a complete character 180 from the first game, where he regretted his hand in the state of the world and wanted revenge on Sauron, and to redeem himself for helping him forge the Ring (and sympathized with Talion's similar goals as a result) to a power mad obviously evil asshole hell bent on being exactly the same as Sauron, for no reason, out of nowhere. and all the lore discrepancies feel, pointless. cause, folk who don't know the lore, aren't going to care about name drops like Helm Hammerhand and people who DO care about the lore, are just going to be pissed off. (and most anyone with common sense would point out "If Shelob has a hate boner for Sauron, and can be a fully normal and sensible human (who can see the future no less), why would she just be a big mindless spider and try and eat the hobbits when they showed up SPECIFICALLY to kill Sauron?" which really is the most obvious plot hole, regardless of it's Lore Implications) Like, honestly, it feels like The Eragon Movie, where the excuse is "it's our interpretation of the story" but, why? people wanted to see it, based on it's source material. this is a Lord Of the Rings game. it can be assumed that most of the people playing are probably, to a greater or lesser degree, Lord of the Rings fans, and familiar with the Lore. if you're just going to deviate wildly FROM the source material, for no real reason, all you're going to do is piss off the actual fans, and create friction between said fans of the source material, and people who like the game/movie in and of itself. TLDR, there was no good reason for SoW to break the lore over it's knee, it should have just done as it's Predecessor did, and slot neatly into the existing lore with a self contained story.

@joshuasnow6416

6 жыл бұрын

YES!

@mr5yy

6 жыл бұрын

Lore wise, the first game fit in perfectly. There was barely anything there and it built off of what lore there was. This one... Just kills it.

@Artydog102

6 жыл бұрын

This is pr b-ball the best description of what’s wrong with the game that exists, deserves a lot more likes and recognition than it has

@m4x899

6 жыл бұрын

What a loooooong comment

@BonzerMrT

5 жыл бұрын

albertjester boo hoo it’s a game. It wasn’t gonna follow the narrative or lore of the books perfectly anyways it’s just for fun of the game. Not ever person that bought it knows all the books to the T most probably only seen the movies. It’s supposed to be off kilter

Would be nice if uruks could choose to serve Talion as well. Just saying.

@deathman7663

6 жыл бұрын

Well- wasn’t ratbag and ranger (the olog) not dominated?

@DivineXPotato

4 жыл бұрын

@@deathman7663 ranger didn't really serve talion, he was mostly there for ratbag and ratbag, yes he wasn't dominated but he's a bit different and originally teamed up with him because he wanted to become a captain so they worked together and while im sure talion would deny it, likely grew a bond/friendship along the way even in shadow of war we have ratbag talking about "old times" and talion is pissed saying "you'll get us exposed.. like old times" and when he says old times its like hes reminiscing / misses it. though i doubt talion would admit he cared for an orc

@whatthehell4644

2 жыл бұрын

Garrison

I didnt even complete her story i just repeatedly kept dying with her

@user-qz3hb9kk5u

Жыл бұрын

Based

@BullyMaguirejr

Жыл бұрын

I would do that but I never want to play with that b4tch so, yeah.

So the talion has single handedly invaded a entire continent and somehow lives on even after death killing anybody who even try’s to hurt his rule and makes a entire army from nothing but a ring and pure determination, then he gains a new ring which arguably turns him into a god and allows him to use god like abilities. But he couldn’t defend one of the fortress that took me 5 minutes to invade without any prep time and under leveled?

If they make a third installment, it should be Talion serving Sauron and hunting down Frodo with the Fellowship. Talion mentioned he was banished from death, so they can continue his story up until Sauron's destruction. It would be badass to have the Witch King as your ally, and to fight for the Dark Lord.

4:33 Talion the Gravewalker Engraged by traitors

When flint died It actually made me feel some thing Wish there were more orcs And not elfs... Maybe dwarfs? Would love to play as a dwarf.

In this game the Nazgul upon their defeat return to Minas Morgul or Baradur. This means that when Talion got defeated he died as he does in game, he has to recover and reform his body, this takes time. After he reforms he'll either be in control again or become one of the nine as seen in the main ending

At 24:20 are the orcs asking for Soap? “Give me soap! give me soap!” - Orc chant

@ancientpickle5857

6 жыл бұрын

TheHiddenMadHatter I wonder what would happen if they dropped the soap... I imagine some really painful shit.

@roukerasati9611

6 жыл бұрын

Lol it'd be ironic if they were. That's like the LAST thing you'd expect them to chant!

@3.2187_Kilometres

3 жыл бұрын

The real reason they joined Talion's army was to have good hygiene.

China in middle earth?

@stefankrunic8188

6 жыл бұрын

Easterlings mate

@volibear7635

6 жыл бұрын

Where the fuck would you fit an asian kingdom in the middle earth is beyond me. They're just diversifying the game, they added a black guy now a whole asian kingdom what's next?

@jackurquhart7994

6 жыл бұрын

harad is actually mexico

@drFocak

6 жыл бұрын

The lands of Rhun are large but unexplored, so its possible for a china-like nation to exist in the far east

@stefankrunic8188

6 жыл бұрын

People! First you have Haradrim, black-arab guys. You've them in movies, even Baranor says it himself. That's not so strange. Also, in the Return of the King you have Easterlings. They are asian like guys. You have that in lore, you have that in that small cutscene. Only thing is that you don't have is female nazgul. That is something that is confronting the lore, but still it's fun thing to see. And I think it's not so bad.

When the hell did the Qin Dynasty join Middle Earth 🤣, and who the hell are these Lady Nazgul? What is going on???!?!?!!!?!?!?????

“I will not dominate these orcs.” But you wanted to dominate Sauron?

So wait did they just threw out talion’s ending from the base game? WTF!?

@muhammaduddin5884

6 жыл бұрын

t-bone007 the start of the dlc to the end of the dlc was over decades but they didn't make clear

@tbone007

6 жыл бұрын

Gamer Dude no I mean at the end of the game it shows talion become a ring wraith with the mask but in this (shite) DLC he just dies before that happens essentially changing the ending.

@muhammaduddin5884

6 жыл бұрын

He didn't die he was banished to bared dur and then he changes mask like the main game ending

@tbone007

6 жыл бұрын

Gamer Dude well that good other than the fact are guy talion who we have been playing for the past two games got beat by a bland traitorous SJW elf bitch.

@muhammaduddin5884

6 жыл бұрын

I think talion should've killed eltariel and that is what pushed him to the edge and fall to sauron darkness and I want talion to track celebrimor not eltariel she was good for a dlc but not for a game

'Bow of Morgorth' who resists 'The Usurper'? is he referring to Sauron?

@MygunsJammedify

6 жыл бұрын

yep

@SuperJimJam

6 жыл бұрын

yup

@Ryanfinder226

6 жыл бұрын

Morgoth created the orcs and was the original dark lord. An orc worshipping morgoth and refusing Sauron is more realistic than the rest of the game

@stephen19590

6 жыл бұрын

THEY SHOULD FUCK!

@stephenjohnson2744

6 жыл бұрын

Ryanfinder226 Sauron didn't 'usurp' the throne from Morgorth though. if Morgorth came back to middle earth he would probably be proud that his chief lieutenant is still sowing discord among the denizens of Arda

Flak Flint is the hero we should all aspire to be.

I like how Talion had the chance to kill Eltariel and get Celebrimbor's ring back but he didn't do it.

honestly feels like this should have been in the game to progress us through shadow wars

Give me soap? Am I hearing that correct around 24:10?

@Warzone157

6 жыл бұрын

GaelinTheBeast DoesHalo OMFG YESSS!!! XD

@roukerasati9611

6 жыл бұрын

Lol I was just about to comment the same thing!

@donkeystew2432

6 жыл бұрын

i was hearing "calypso"

I declare this DLC as non-canon

Just bought the game and all the dlc because of this video. Big fan of the books and this looks great.

@kevine9474

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the game is great. Its slow to start though because the real fun (recruiting orcs) doesn't begin until 2-3 hours later.

Wow, this DLC turned very SJW in the end. So to main game said: (spoilers!) That Talion fought for years against the armies of Mordor and Sauron. The DLC says: nah, that loser lost it in month, maybe less. Then they turn the guy is the poor man's copy of Boromir. I died at the ending, such a cheesy and cliche ending, wow Talion, recite every ignorant line from Boromir! It's not like you've been pulling magic out of a ring's hole for years now and doing superhuman things! This DLC is insulting in every way.

@lalas198

6 жыл бұрын

Well fans complained that only Maia could withstand a lesser ring's power, so I guess in a retcon-your-own-game way they got what they wanted.

@thecrazyotter4873

6 жыл бұрын

Julian Marco yea i figured it would.

@Sam_Guevenne

6 жыл бұрын

talion was a lore breaking eyesore for someone who loves lotr

@azariyelvarro6271

6 жыл бұрын

How does bad writing=SJW? Answer: it doesn't. Your just a (Removed bad language because in all likelihood your just a kid, what with the incredibly bad grammer) Also, I got more of a Bilbo vibe at the end, but maybe that's just me. Work on your friggin grammer. And the story really want that bad, mediocre at worst.

@thecrazyotter4873

6 жыл бұрын

eleganos no one is a kid besides you. You must be blind if you done see how this is sjw shit. Besides that the game breaks its own fucking lore. This dlc doesnt add up with the main game at all. Talion fights the shadow wars for decades and then becomes a nazgul and is killed when the ring is destroyed. She didnt kill him because he is banished from death but this dlc still doesnt add up. Its mediocre at best.

So where's 11 rings? 9 for the men... Oh but don't worry there are two extra from two women

@Calvin_M.

6 жыл бұрын

genji shimada yea, I was like “wtf? 😑”

@emitheninja1995

6 жыл бұрын

didn't the sisters slay 2 nazguls and take the rings from them? then the rings corrupted the sisters.

@sharkluxry

5 жыл бұрын

that was dumb

@VattenFlaskaCola123

5 жыл бұрын

@@emitheninja1995 So all you have to do is rip the ring off and call it a day?

@DivineXPotato

4 жыл бұрын

@@VattenFlaskaCola123 not that simple, and most people who do kill the nazgul likely take their rings and are corrupted (perfect example is the sisters and talion) so you have to be badass enough to not be paralyzed by fear, and also somehow manage to defeat them in a fight and take the ring/cut it off or dominate them somehow to make it come off to truly kill them, and again, if you do that, odds are the ring will beckon to you and you'll replace them

I’d love a DLC or a sequel where we can be Sauron.

Like I get that this is the war of good vs evil and nothing's fair, but eltariel really burns me up. She betrays talion and then has the gall to act all high and mighty when talion can't fight sauron's influence any longer? After everything he had been through and sacrificed? Like when she saw into his mind and saw all that and cried I was like "yeah, feel bad. You helped create this tragedy."