Amiga version graphics and sound quality are badass

AMIGA version BEST of BEST !!!

@bymarcao

7 жыл бұрын

FM TOWNS MARTY is the best

@barrywallace4985

7 жыл бұрын

No it is not even remotely close to the Megadrive version let alone the Amiga. FM Towns is not a good version at all.

@bymarcao

7 жыл бұрын

FM TOWNS MARTY is the best

@barrywallace4985

7 жыл бұрын

Marcos Marcilli The hell it is NOT in the same league as the Amiga version. The Amiga version has better sound better graphics the gameplay is more refined with better controls. FM Towns version is NOT a good version certainly the worst of the 16 bit versions. Just do not talk rubbish. Amiga version is the best version.

@gogogo8448

7 жыл бұрын

FM TOWNS MARTY is the best

Amiga easily, but Megadrive got an impressive port.

@impofstpete727

3 жыл бұрын

If you like lightspeed enemies.

@Painocus

3 жыл бұрын

@@impofstpete727 You'd only have "lightspeed enemies" if you played it on a Genesis. Paulo said Megadrive and the Megadrive versions run on intended speed.

@VirajKathwadia

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painocus It's still pretty fast on the Mega Drive still running 16% faster then the Amiga version. Painfully punishing game, the fact that I beat the MD version is a miracle.

god, when the sound switches over to the amiga. it blows me away each time

@ryzmaker11

4 жыл бұрын

the amiga lo-fi samples suit this game like a glove!

AMIGA wins clearly once more time AMIGA forever ! Smoothest parallax, best palette, amazing ost

The artwork and music on the amiga are unmatched...

This game was tailor made specifically for the Amiga yet was converted to so many different formats. Even the ZX Spectrum got a version of this.

@thecappeningchannel515

7 жыл бұрын

This game sold more Amigas than a blowjob would have. They just put it on in the store, and let people see it. Didnt see anything even close to it untill 1994. Except perhaps Moonstone and Wrath of the Demon.

@eben3357

7 жыл бұрын

Sonic the Hedgehog almost equaled the graphics of Shadow of the Beast but the gameplay is so far ahead that Beast was left in the previous decade. Donkey Kong Country would be the next graphical advancement, but compared to Sonic, it plays more like a Rareware tech demo.

@Games-bw5ee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the truth is a lot of Amiga owners were kind of conned by the other games developers (not Psygnosis however). We saw in this game what was capable if developers designed games specifically for the power of the Amiga and then we got mostly substandard ports downgraded to also support the Atari ST's inferior graphical capabilities. Those lazy developers swizzed us Amiga owners by porting to Atari ST and Amiga in tandem.

An incredibly annoying game. Thanks for playing through 4 different versions to make this comparison. I think you deserve a cup of tea.

@MrDamo34

3 жыл бұрын

That might just be the most English comment I’ve ever read.

@HungarianDerrickRose

3 жыл бұрын

He could have replaced "annoying" with "shite". This game excels technically but is a bland/utterly boring platformer in the end.

Amiga>Mega Drive>PC Engine>Snes The synth music of the MD gives an eerie atmosphere. I like it!!

@thecappeningchannel515

7 жыл бұрын

I like the SNES version, though I was an Amigo back in the days.

@azumarill1403

7 жыл бұрын

The SNES one is like another version of the story, it feels like that, even if the game was a prototype, i like it too =)

@eben3357

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, and Street Fighter on the Mega Drive feels like another version of the story told in 8 stars turbo mode rather than molasses SNES gameplay with more colours and better sounds... because Nintendo Power told us it was better on SNES.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

The Mega Drive version looks good! Better resolution, graphics and scrollings than the PC Engine and also looks better than the SNES version in many ways. Only the Amiga original looks better because it was a game tailor-made for the Amiga, using many tricks related to the hardware. But I'm pretty sure that the Mega Drive version could have looked even better if it was ported by a specific developer who know how to use most of the hardware (you know, the likes of Treasure or Zyrinx).

@eben3357

4 жыл бұрын

@Chris Warren Thanks for reading.

Amiga version was the best without doubt

@thecappeningchannel515

7 жыл бұрын

The others are just ports, Beast was made to sell Amigas, and was superior even to its 2 sequels in sound and graphics. You can also believe me when I say that the Amiga version looks even better on a "bent" old TV screen, which is what it was made for.

@tehcy7430

Жыл бұрын

Opinions vary !

Even as a die hard Amiga fan I can't deny just how great they made the PC Engine CD version. The music remixes for both SotB 1 and 2 are among the first professionally done Amiga remixes on CD.

Thanks for the Video...I have this for Sega Genesis, Snes, lynx and unfortunately I gave my Amiga original copy years ago...one of the few Amiga titles I actually purchased...brings back some amazing memories where I cranked my stereo.

Classic game I played time and again on the Amiga! The other non-Amiga renditions of this game seem "cartoony" with their high contrast artwork. Also, the non-Amiga versions soundtracks have a "whimiscal" and not the deep morbid foreboding sound of the original. The original Amiga soundtrack is something enjoyable *by itself* but the other non-Amiga versions just sound annoyingly too staccato, up-tempo, and the instruments choices are too high pitched and peppy. The original Amiga version's game has a tone and atmosphere that is a subdued alien fantasy world. Weird how the other versions changed this because its integral to the tone of Shadow of the Beast right from the opening introductory logos. You can see how perfect the graphics and soundtrack mesh together so much better on the *original* Amiga version! Original still the best!

You can argue all you want but does any other version apart from the amiga have that 4096 colour HAM mode title screen with the Roger Dean artwork?

For some reason I thought that there were only two versions; the Sega Megadrive version and the Amiga. This was a fascinating and surreal experience for me. Good job.

I like the visuals in megadrive version, more contrast. The OST is so catchy, soo good. The PC Engine CD is the best for that OST.

Yep, the Amiga wiped the floor with the competition back in the day. But of course I already knew that 29 years ago, when I bought my A500 :)

@bangerbangerbro

3 жыл бұрын

Well it wiped the floor with the ST at least. Should have done so with the Mega Drive but in terms of games did not because no quality control.

Great use of the Long Play videos.

Even though a bit crouded in a pc screen (i think, i watched on my tv) highlly entertaining watching 4 different editions of a game. Now if the ps4 upcoming game is entertaining like this will have a good sequel for the 21st century. I had forgotten how uplifting and awesome the music was.

@bangerbangerbro

3 жыл бұрын

Uplifting?

That intro! Goosebumps!!

Amiga forever!!!

An example of how when games were written specifically for the Amiga in the first instance, they were pretty much always the superior version.

Amiga, claro!!!

@nestorgamarra107

7 жыл бұрын

sin lugar a dudas mejor por lejos

The Amiga is superior in all but load times. Just to add, Amiga 1000 came out '85, Genesis/Megadrive '89, SNES '91. That's SIX years difference between Amiga tech and SNES (actually 7 for UK/EU) and look/listen at the difference. Amiga was so ahead of it's time and it took PC tech until about '93 to finally better it. If Commodore had not totally squandered it's advantage we'd all have been sat using Amiga's (or equivalent) over the past two decades and not PC's. Now the other versions shown are ports to be fair to them, but SOTB wasn't just a tech demo for the Amiga, it was developed in the UK and published by Psygnosis, and typically as with many of their games on the Amiga, it looked and sounded amazing.

@thecappeningchannel515

7 жыл бұрын

Pirate copying ruined lots of commodore profit. The Amiga was just too an open plattform for its own good. I dont think you could have run Shadow of the Beast on an Amiga 1000 either?

@nostnocomment268

7 жыл бұрын

Amiga came out in late May 1986, and Spring 1986 in the EU before US, there are tribes in jungles that got the Amiga 1000 in the UK probably lol

@patrickshannon5218

7 жыл бұрын

The Amiga used Floppies for most of its games and that caused very slow load times. I still have my Amiga 2000HD and the Hardrive was mostly used for Applications. Yes, I was disappointed, but the games were using sector reads for a lot of games so you didn't always see the files or you couldn't read the disk with the standard OS workbench. Still to this day, I couldn't believe the Amiga couldn't survive!! Piracy was on all platforms, but I understand the response below this one about it. I still have my purchased copy of Shadow of the Beast. I think I still have the box too, not sure. My amiga still boots. lol

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

A lot of nonsense and misinformations here ^^ For sure the Amiga was an impressive computer for something initially released in 1985 and it remained competitive by 1987 as the Amiga 500 but the Mega Drive, released in 1988, is superior in many ways! The Mega Drive is based on Sega System 16 arcade board (which was released in 1985) and naturally the hardware is powerful and more suited for gaming, especialy the sprites engine and also the media (cartridges > floppies) and controllers. Just look at games such as Gunstar Heroes, Streets of Rage 2 or Ristar, they would not be feasible on Amiga. And the SNES is also overall better than the Amiga though the SNES was released in 1990 so it starts to be less impressive by that point. btw: +Mr. C Nope, the PC Engine was released in the end of 1987, that's 4 years and a half after the NES! And that's the problem: NEC always had a foot in the past while Sega and Nintendo were always going ahead. NEC tried to keep up with an improved CD add-on in 1991 and updated system cards but that was never enough, the Mega Drive and SNES were still better and overall much less expensive by comparison! The PC Engine is a nice little system with lot of personality but it was quite a mess (still I personaly prefer it over the SNES but I prefer the Mega Drive over both).

@jimkrom

6 жыл бұрын

Yohko M. really??? check out swiv on both machines, check out apocalypse, banshee or project x for the amiga (especially the latter) and tell me when was poor megadrive able to pull a shooter like project x. just because amiga got lame arcade ports due to lazy developers it does not mean it was not more capable than the md. if u see original games u will see the difference. ohhh and to go to some racers (cause u are refering to the md being based on arcade board) check out lotus esprit 2 on md and then on the amiga

brought back memories, indeed a masterpiece for the time

Really cool video!

great vid matey

I was like 6 yo playing this game on the Amiga. Never tried it again since then. It's just embedded into my brain. I remember this game being so creepy. Sound and game play. This ain't nothing now that I've 100% games like outlast and evil within. Still got some weird nostalgic calling for me though. Crazy because I was only like 6 or something. 38 now. Gotta check out the ps4 version. It's been calling for me.

Well only the Amiga version has the Charaktere Music its so fine to heard. The other ones sounds to clearly and cold AMIGA for ever. Nice Work

The more tiny the screen the better Genesis will look (it displays 320x240 pixels close to it as is displayed above). Hard to believe today but that tiny screens in this video are the accurate displays for the consoles of the 90s.

wheres the intro music from

The PC Engine CD has a pretty much flawless gameplay and is more tight on the controls as well the collosion detection is spot on (which is far off on the Amiga). Yes, graphics is weaker (but with great animation), and sound did not capture the Amiga asmofere, but they did a least tweaked the gameplay to been more fun to play. If you ask me gameplay opt first. Im do allways loved Amiga version, but PC engine is a spot on port

THANK YOU

I go for MegaDrive. PC Engine could have taken top spot if it had the correct backgrounds and missing parallax scrolling.

Amiga really RULEZ...behold Paula, Denise, Agnus !

amiga the best

Yo tuve este juego en Commodore Amiga y sencillamente era genial.

Your comparisons are fucking awesome.

@silenig

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

De este gran clásico, me quedo con la versión de Commodore Amiga, aunque no tenga las introducciones cinem´ticas de la versión de PC Engine CD, los gráficos y banda sonora de la versión de Commodore Amiga, para mi son las mejores.

makes me wanna play magician lord. they all look ok. genesis has a great color pallet for once

@ryzmaker11

5 жыл бұрын

lol, for once? I guess you missed golden axe, strider, atomic robo-kid, mega turrican, wiz 'n liz, columns, puyo puyo 1 and 2, wolfchild, aero blasters, alien storm, aladdin and TONS of others! ;D

Your intro sounds like a Retro-BATMAN BEYOND theme song, if it was made earlier... Someone should make one!!!

Amiga>Genesis > PC Engine > Gameboy> Snes

@luke_y_444

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

Pyron came out with a color hack for the MD version that makes it look pretty close to the Amiga.

@amanloop

3 ай бұрын

Closer, yes, but not close

Visually Amiga and Mega Drive tie > SNES > PC Engine (actually it's PC Engine Super CD-Rom²). Amiga has slightly better colors than Mega Drive but Mega Drive runs the game fullscreen, without black borders. And both versions are loaded with great parallax scrollings! The SNES version looks a bit odd but has good graphics (and even very good during the inside of the castle) and retains many parallax scrollings. Lastly the PC Engine version has rather garish colors and a serious lack of parallax scrollings, especially during the indoor sections. Also it has some simplified stuff such as the fact that we don't see the outside of the castle (18:45) or the last boss whose attack pattern is now a simple boulder thrown at you (33:31). Sound wise it's rather a matter of taste. The Amiga soundtrack is brillant. The Mega Drive renditions are unique, more eerie but also more rocking depending of the tune. SNES I didn't listen. And PC Engine actually takes the music from the FM Towns version and it's a beautiful reinterpretation of the original soundtrack. None of those games are great but they're decent side scrolling action with a slice of adventure. The Amiga version was an incredible showcase at the time of its release. The sequel is probably a better game, btw. And the third game might be even better.

@RaysBonuses

5 жыл бұрын

Really? I thought MD was the worst, even though it stuck closest to the original.

@bangerbangerbro

3 жыл бұрын

No one cares about PCECD superscript. Isn't it subscript anyway?

@silenig: hey buddy :) thanx for your great work as usual. But I would have a little request here: is it possible to delete the Shadow of the Beast comparison video which compare only the Amiga and Mega Drive versions? This way everyone would gather here which would be cooler and more constructive.

@silenig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, as usual :) I agree that the updated 4-screen video is much more thorough and an improvement over the first one (Amiga/MD), but it wouldn't exist if the first 2-screen video wasn't made and hadn't got the views and the positive feedback it got. Deleting it would be like deleting the best I could do at that specific moment when it was edited and uploaded, as well as deleting all the comments posted by the people who watched it. I hope you understand :)

@ryzmaker11

5 жыл бұрын

@@silenig No worries I understand although I feel that maybe you could make an exception in this case? The worst part I see is the fact that comments will be deleted but if it's for good reasons, then it's OK I guess and, like I said, everyone will gather here for the better. Also still waiting for your Leander/Galahad dual playthrough! :3

@silenig

5 жыл бұрын

I can't delete it, sorry. The best I can do is direct the viewers to the updated video with "cards" :) As for, Leander/Galahad. Here's hoping I will get to do it! :)

@ryzmaker11

5 жыл бұрын

@@silenig ok, so yeah, do this if you can! And nice for Leander/Galahad, do it as you feel :)

This game was the reason why i purchased the Amiga

21:03 - Is the SNES OK?

LOL! PC Engine got a real bass guitar funk thing going on. 9:00

The Amiga version may be the best out of the bunch, but the PC-Engine had that rad cutscene.

there is the atari lynx version missing. :-)

And the winning version (Amiga in my opinion) should go on to fight the Spectrum version :P

1. Amiga. 2. SEGA MD. 3. PC ENGINE. 4. SNES.

My order of preference : 1 / Megadrive (most impressive version) 2 / Amiga (thinnest version) 3 / PC Engine (well done for an "8 BIT" !) 4 / Super Nes (the changes are ugly !?)

That PC Engine music !

Amiga looks awesome

Depends on the board. Some levels go to Amiga, others to Mega and others to SNES. None to PC Engine.

I had both SotB 1 & 2, yet my memory refused that I had both so I removed a comment here, thinking I had only SotB II, about nostalgia and a nother one that I didn't make the game cause of confusion over where to go (true with both I & II). :-(

amiga superior en todo sentido

The Amiga version has the best graphics overall, but I gotta give major props to the Turbografx CD version, not only does it have the best animations in the main character and the best sound (well of course, it's on CD) but you see, that system only has 1 BG layer and yet it has parallax scrolling in the overworld areas! Yeah sure, only in the overworld areas but that's at least something, and the parallax is overlapping! Very nice indeed... With some dynamic tiling they could have pulled off parallax scrolling on the inside areas too, not as detailed as the Amiga or even the Mega Drive versions, but that would certainly be better than nothing... I bet they could have done it on Super CD-ROM²...

@MauroSanna

7 жыл бұрын

If by best sound you mean best sampling rate, yes, of course, it's on CD. Though the best soundtrack / music is stil the Amiga version hands down. As far as concern the animation: more frames doesn't mean better animation. In fact in this case it's exactly the opposite: the PC Engine CD has the worst animation among the four of them. The others are definitely more effective and convincing. Is like trying to animate someone's speech buy animating every single phoneme: it just doesn't work. Still a nice port anyway.

@Michirin9801

7 жыл бұрын

I understand you liking the Amiga's music better, that's more of a matter of taste than anything, but I simply cannot wrap my head around you thinking the PCE animation being the "worst", that's just not right, it's like saying Astro Boy (1963) has better animation than Disney or Ghibli movies... The animation on the PC engine CD is MUCH smoother, while at the same time not making the game any less responsive than the other versions!

@MauroSanna

7 жыл бұрын

Well, Astroboy from 1963 was animated the Japanese way, which is gettin animation out of non animated assets (I love it, but it doesn't mean is any good). Disney and Ghibli animate in a very similar way to each other, more advanced, even if comparing the pipelines of them two. That said, the PC Engine CD animation cycles are odd, they just added useless information (AKA extra frames) to the main charactare that it did not need at all. It just wasn't thought that way. As an animator myself I think I can tell the difference between something weird and something proper; there you have it: that PC Engine one is weird. It deosn't feel right, even technically (so it's not a matter of tastes like in the music department). I have the PC Engine (actually I have it's western counterpart, the TurbographX-16 + CD) and this game is as responsive as the Amiga version, with the difference that that animation is not right. It seems it has been modified to be animated on twos rather than ones, or viceversa, just to make those extra keyframes fit the cycle (and it clearly doesn't). It would have been much better if they had rotoscoped a live action runner and used the result to animate the character: now THAT would have been good, not this one.

@Michirin9801

7 жыл бұрын

I've made the comparison of Astro Boy and Disney/Ghibli movies more as a more jarring/exaggerated comparison of the 'smoothness' of the animation between the different versions of the game, the only difference between the PCE and the other versions in terms of animation other than the amount of frames is that the animation is a little slower, most likely due to the extra frames, but I don't see that as being weird, I see that as being smoother and better because that's what it is...

@robertwilson3866

7 жыл бұрын

PCE version was written by an Amiga programmer. Think he worked on Walker and Lemmings. He said it took him a long time to make it.

The Amiga version is your best amigo

ohhh it was a super short game!

Amiga 500 owns the best Shadow of the Beast version ! Amiga 500 it´s a serious machine even today using just 16 bit. This game is one of the best Amiga 500 games so it´s hard to beat even for consoles that appeared later

1st amiga version, 2nd mega drive version and 3th Pc engine.

Genesis version since to look little bit brighter and colorful than the rest, so for that matter my choice are: Genesis, Amiga, PC Engine CD, and last SNES.

@EdmondDantes224

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the Genesis version also run faster than all the others? I've heard that significantly increases the difficulty.

@tskraj3190

5 жыл бұрын

@@EdmondDantes224 No, The Genesis/Mega Drive has a CPU clock frequency of 7.6 Mhz and can handle 1.4 MIPS (Million Instructions Per Second) SNES has a clock frequency of 3.58 and can handle 1.79 MIPS (390,000 more instructions per second than Genesis/Mega Drive) Turbo GrafX 16 has a CPU clock frequency of 7.16 Mhz and can handle 3.3 MIPS Amiga CD 32 has a CPU clock of 14.3 Mhz and can handle 3.5 MIPS. Technically the Genesis/Mega Drive is the slowest in fourth place, The SNES places third, Turbo Grafx16 places second and Amiga CD 32 is in first place. Now if we look at the CPUs themselves, The Turbo GrafX 16 had an 8Bit HuC6820 The Genesis/Mega Drive had a 16/32 Bit MC68000 The SNES had a 16 Bit WDC 65c816 The Amiga CD 32 had a 32 Bit 68EC020

@EdmondDantes224

5 жыл бұрын

@Timothy Isenhart "Runs faster" may have been a bad choice of words, but I've seen videos and read reviews claiming (and this could be a regional thing) that certain obstacles like the spikey things that jut out of the ground move much faster on the Genesis/Mega Drive. Games can run faster/slower on hardware for reasons independent of the relative strength of the hardware--things like how you code the animation frames/game logic can have an impact, and some games are known to run differently in NTSC vs PAL regions even on the same hardware. I'm not sure if Beast is a case like that or not though... just throwing this out there because it may be interesting to investigate (because I'm a dork like that).

Let's rank the versions by music: 1) Amiga: beautiful and scary 2) surprisingly ... Genesis, because it's also beautiful and scary, it's the same theme, but it's #2 because it's lower quality 3) PC Engine: sometimes it sounds as good as the Amiga version, but sometimes it sounds FUN, like beach music, so that destroys the mood 4) SNES: not sure why it's so low quality, and why they modified the music so much, maybe memory/size issues?

I cant help it how much i like the genesis port better, better resolution,you can see whats coming ahead of you, and the music just pumps me up, rather than cd orchestra!!!

@Jebbidan

4 жыл бұрын

Well... The color sucks for it

Amiga definitely

Too bad for the SNES version being released before being polished a little bit... I somehow have a weird looking cartridge that resembles the ones for Super Famicom. It went through a lot of changes.

@MadCheese1337

7 жыл бұрын

what are you talking about i had that game on amiga, snes and megadrive and the snes version was the worst version out of them all when it comes to 1 to 1 ports as they didnt even try to get the sound to be close to the original source..... www.google.com.au/search?q=super+shadow+of+the+beast+pal&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH7NXps9jTAhWBJJQKHRA_CNQQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=676#imgrc=8yaSNItBlWR-NM: theres one example of a PAL cartridge for the snes version....

@azumarill1403

7 жыл бұрын

I have that game, yeah i didn't mean it was cancelled, but released before time maybe? it has that weird cartridge, it's different than the other SNES cartridges, but i still like the snes version, it's so different... i said i like it but i don't love it, the other versions are way better but oh well

Amiga mega drive pc engines snes. The amiga version just looks so good.

Pra mim a melhor versão desse jogo e a do mega drive , mega drive the best version

All four have background parallax.

,Amiga version the one and only true original and Best version of the game.

Amiga or MD first then PC engine then SNES

@billybobs1705

3 жыл бұрын

pc engine had the most faithful sound to the amiga while being the weakiest in graphics due to it being an 8 bit

Amiga by quite some distance - sound and graphics

There is just NO comparison the the Amiga ..sound or visuals. The sound of this game immediately sends me back to the fall of 1989...wish I could go back. 😑

Excellent Classic video games. The Amiga and Mega Drive versions are more faithful and similar, highlighting the contrast of the Mega Drive better, despite the reduced amount of color. The PC Engine version is poorer in graphics but the orchestrated CD songs make up for it. Unfortunately the version of Super Nes was less faithful in both the audio issue and the plot of the game. From the special effects, the highlight is the Mega Drive Scrolling Scenery that takes place at 7:38, followed by the unique Super 7 Mode's grid effect of 7:35, the Amiga version produces only a flash for scene cropping and Version of PC Engine has no effect. The most balanced version with great images and sounds is the Amiga version, having a technical tie between Mega Drive with better image and PC Engine with better sound. The Version of Super Nintendo left something to be desired, even for the qualities of Video Game that appeared to be superior to the others.

Amiga :)

pc engine has the best movement of the character, but the amiga still looks best overall

@silenig: apparently one comment as been marked as spam so it doesn't appear anymore which is annoying because I replied and talked with people there and wanted to add something. Can you check about this and make it appears again please? Would be nice.

@silenig

5 жыл бұрын

Apologies, youtube does that, not under my control. I checked the "likely spam" tab, and I can't seem to find the comment you are referring to.

@yohkom.7988

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for checking out. So it's either that the guy who posted the first comment was annoyed to received notifications for all the replies or that he wasn't ok with the facts that we stated in said replies which, if it's the case, is a lame move from his part :/

@silenig

5 жыл бұрын

This is likely, I've seen people delete their own comments after long arguments with another commenter.

Looking @9:40 and @22:17. The Sound and Music is superior in PC and worst in Mega drive. The graphics performance is higher on SNES (might be due to lower resolution) and worst on PC. Color palette is better on SNES and worst on Amiga (looks low-contrast)

@PissGOOGEL

5 жыл бұрын

Could not agree more.

@jimkrom

5 жыл бұрын

It is not a southpark game, it was nade gloomy to convey the dark atmosphere of the game. The snes version is the worst for colour choice, but the palette was limited on all of the machines to match the amiga original (which again, is what the game was supposed to look). Megadrive came the closest in this regard

SNES is a prototype.

For me : Number one version : Amiga 500 and Number two : Megadrive :-) it's very near versionbut i prefer music to Pc engine cd than megadrive

Where is Atari ST version?

@Texy88

6 жыл бұрын

That version is very poor compared to the four versions in this video. It does not even have any in-game music.

@jimkrom

5 жыл бұрын

Hanging around with the speccy version crying about how they both sucked

1.- PC ENGINE 2.- SNES 3.- AMIGA 4.- MEGADRIVE

The PC Engine CD version is the best one gameplay-wise. DMA Design took a lit of liberties with the level design and controls and it pays off immensely.

Mega drive is the best version, is very similar with amiga version without loading and unfair dificuty

@amigaamigo5307

4 жыл бұрын

Not if you have it running on the cd32 load times are reduced to seconds

Some are dimmer than the others?

la version la plus fidèle de l'amiga 500 est celle de la sega megadrive ;-) mais les musiques sont mieux sur Amiga ;-) il y a eu aussi l'Atari ST mais on est un cran en dessous ....

The console versions look like the colours are from an Amstrad CPC or Colecovision compared to the gorgeous subtle shades of colour on the Amiga version.

@planetretro4581

8 жыл бұрын

The first level is definitely designed around the Amiga 1000/500 hardware to extract almost 100% performance out of the machine, as consoles did not have blitter chips, palette switchers or 4096 colours to choose from they would clearly suffer. Hell they even found a use for those very basic Amiga hardware sprites (the trees). It is the Amiga's Ridge Racer Type 4 technically.

@KuraIthys

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, the snes had 32,000 or so colours to work with, internal sprite and background layer control, the ability to perform graphical effects using HDMA and interrupts (including palette switches and other effects) and several other features that suggest it should have done a decent job of it. (though perhaps expecting 8 layer parallax scrolling is a bit much... But if it's too heavily optimised for the Amiga hardware specifically, it would undoubtedly be a pain to optimise it correctly for a completely different kind of hardware... The mega drive however certainly had more colour limitations, but similar kinds of hardware sprite and other features. The console versions shouldn't have suffered THAT much if you look at the raw specifications of the systems involved, unless they were terribly made... Which is quite likely of course, especially if some of these are apparently versions that weren't even publicly released (so the final efforts to improve them may never have been done...) yeah... No, even a cursory inspection of the visuals shows the snes version in particular is nowhere near the limits of what the system is capable of. It's an incredibly poor use of the hardware... Whoever was working on the graphics for that version really wasn't even trying... The genesis version could be an accurate reflection of the hardware limitations. The Amiga does definitely have a lot more RAM to work with, and likely several other advantages. I have no idea about the PC Engine version... The snes version... Is a joke that has nothing much to do with the abilities of the hardware, and really just seems to be a token effort that barely uses any capabilities the hardware has.

@planetretro4581

7 жыл бұрын

I never said it wasn't. but still it is amazing how shit it makes that crappy SNES look which came out 7 years AFTER Amiga 1000 512kb machine I play this game on. Music and graphics are utter crap on the 90s consoles.

@KuraIthys

7 жыл бұрын

planet retro lmao. I've been looking into how these systems actually worked. The only reason the snes couldn't match the Amiga graphically is if the programmers involved are shit, or they couldn't afford enough cartridge space. - Never underestimate how small cartridges actually were in those days, and it was impossible (and too expensive) to use more than one. The biggest SNES games ever made only had 6 megabytes of cartridge space. The amiga, as I recall had a 720 kilobyte floppy drive. Which means the majority of those console games have to fit on the equivalent of 1-2 floppy disks at the very most, and the biggest games ever released are equivalent to maybe 6 disks... Sound is harder to say. In this case lack of RAM for the audio chip in the snes would cause problems. The Mega Drive used FM synthesis, so it would inherently sound different. The snes used samples, so there it comes down to the amount of memory available for samples. I mean, the original amigas is not THAT impressive compared to those two consoles in any objective sense. It had more ram, and generally more storage space to work with, but that's about it. It's graphical abilities were somewhat better than the mega drive, but worse than the snes (if the snes programmer knew what they were doing.) The processor in it is the same model as in the mega drive, and roughly the same speed for all intents and purposes. The snes has a really weak processor, compared to the other two, but there are ways around that. Again, a lot of it depends on whether the programmers knew what they were doing or not. I see no reason, after reading programming references and looking into how these systems actually worked why it couldn't run a near perfect copy of shadow of the beast. The mega drive wouldn't have been able to be quite that perfect a copy, but it would have been quite close. These consoles are made to an extreme budget. 7 years is a long time in technology, but budget still matters. In 1991 we had 486 PC's with some of the first SVGA graphics, and hard drives getting into hundreds of megabytes. Those are the kinds of systems that compared to the Amiga's price range when it was launched in 1985... That these very cheap consoles can even attempt to match an expensive system from 7 years ago is something in itself.

@planetretro4581

7 жыл бұрын

Interesting post. I found Nintendo always always screw you on tech specs, the NES was god awful sound and graphics for the mid 80s, play Ghosts and Goblins and Commando etc on a £300 Atari ST for £20 each or get an NES for £150 and pay £50 for the same games.....which are worse and within 2 game purchases your investment was only 90 quid less lol and I don;t remember Tangerine Dream making awesome music with a Nintendo :) Same with Wii and SNES. N64 is interesting though as it has weaker raw 3D performance than PS1 in real terms but it has a lot of features to smooth out low poly models....hence the VHS blurred look of many games. Works well for Mario look but not so good for Wipeout 2097 or Ridge Racer4 on PS1. Gameboy not only was mono but the screen was unusable for arcade games as ALL moving pixels on screen instantly blurred up (so Nemesis on Gameboy was a waste of 30 quid as the bullets become invisible!!) The last Colony Wars game really did look as good as any N64 game.....via the RF lead we all used in the UK lol Many SNES carts were 24mbit or 32mbits which is 3 or 4 megabytes or the same as a typical 4 disk Amiga game, actually it is much quicker to decompress data in ROM than loading it in from disk first then decompressing it etc so more like a 5 or 6 disk Amiga game in reality. The largest I knew was 40mbit and there was a lot of 32mbit carts (found out because I wanted to buy a Wildcard for the SNES and most are 24mbit only). Of course third parties got charged a premium for cart costs (memory, battery, DSP etc) whereas for Killer Instinct and DK Country Nintendo absorbed the cost.....welcome to the mafia like cartel of cartridge gaming before Sony pwnd Nintendo with PSX business model (cheap to produce and multiple runs with little notice vs all cart costs up front and only one massive production run booked months in advance = bankruptcy for any but the largest publishers). Adding the cost of a DSP onto the cart cost even more and forget Super FX UK produced chip which no third party could afford to put in the carts. SNES for 3rd parties was a nightmare time that is over thank god. Star Wing did a good job of scuppering Jaguar sales.....Cybermorph etc did look shit for the extra money. However World Tour Racing that came much later for Jaguar CD looked more like a Saturn F1 game than anything SNES SuperFX could do, so it served its purpose and broke even I bet. Jez San should be ashamed for selling it to them but ho hum the greedy git wanted a Porsche too :) Whilst Amiga 1000 was the most advanced machine vs competitors ever sold even now it was still $3000 less than 128k Mono Mac and $4000 less than 512k EGA 8086 IBM PC at launch, it was a budget machine in USA. Later the god awful looking Amiga 500 cost about 50-60% less by late 1987 (project overran by 12 months though was meant to be 1986 launch!!). The Megadrive is a much more technically versatile machine on balance than the SNES, sure the audio is bit more metalic and with only 2 scratchy sample channels and only 64 colours but it IS as fast as an Amiga 500 or faster for any type of game engine. The SNES could never do Lotus Turbo Challenge II at the speeds an NTSC 1985 Amiga 1000 could do. The problem is the SNES does 256 colour platform games nicely, everything else interesting including the launch title Pilot Wings NEEDs a DSP just to use the custom chips inside fast enough. You are right the CPU is too week Let's be honest 3 years is a generation in the past. TRS80/VIC20/ZX81 to C64, C64 to Amiga 1000 and then from MD/SNES to Saturn/3DO/PS1 etc. The SNES had a horrible 8bit CPU (with 16bit internal calculations) loosely based on the Atari 400/800 CPU and if the SNES is 16bit the Mac 128k and Amiga 1000 is 32bit. Actually the same CPU as the Apple II GS For sure though Shadow of the Beast 1 was a game engine designed around the original 1985 Amiga custom chip/7mhz 68000 CPU combo and so no other version will ever be better just like Mario Kart is designed around the SNES hardware and Street Racer on Megadrive/Amiga looks worse. For Beast 1 even the useless hardware sprites (inferior in all but resolution to the C64) are given a full workout in the Amiga version to make the massive trees and many palette swaps by scan line occurs without penalty. The Amiga sound hardware on paper is inferior to the SNES Sony soundchip but the SNES soundchip is in a compromised bus design so it's not just sound or cost of cartridge ROM size, feeding the SNES sample channels willynilly like an Amiga 1000 does with zero effort and impact to CPU speed (because the RAM is clock doubled at 14mhz like Centrino CPU in Intel laptops from this centuryl) so there is never ever a bottle neck of Paula accessing RAM under DMA vs CPU wanting to access the same RAM. The SNES is designed to play back Windows 3/95 style general midi style music files and is not intended to be used to only play unique ever changing samples all the time on all channels. The chip itself can but this is how it is implemented int the SNES motherboard.. Basically the SNES is designed to do 256 colours in specific parts of the screen platform style games, everything else requires a DSP to do mid 80s arcade games like Out Run or Salamander. The Megadrive has a very metalic sound chip and less colours but that aside it is a vastly more versatile machine. Megadrive Gauntlet IV even has some awesome music despite that sound chip. And don't forget Commodore made nothing from Amiga game sales, Nintendo were running a cartel and making more money than the Mafia world wide from ALL game royalties!! I guess Nintendo looked at which NES games were bringing in the the billions and created a machine to do nicer looking/sounding versions of those games I guess. Jay Miner and others designed the Amiga 1000 to control the electron beam gun on your television and the vibrations of the speaker cone in the most sophisticated way possible. Apart from the sound, which is down to personal taste seeing as it had the same sound chip as many arcade machines of the late 80s, the Megadrive is probably better than an Amiga. The Mega CD definitely is because Batman driving levels on Amiga and Mega CD look a generation apart and the music can be streamed from the CD. However as an example Super Stardust on floppy disk for Amiga 1200/4000 sounds better than anything on SNES/Megadrive ever could (and it even has 6 channel sound...2 of which are created in software....and a game that you needed a £1500 Pentium 133mhz PC to run it at as well as a £299 Amiga 1200...I know because I had both of those machines at the time....of course I only bought the Amiga version and pirated the PC version booo hiss!!! lol) In the UK though the SNES sold only 1 million units vs 2 million Megadrives, which is why for me and my school friends Mario/Zelda is what the odd kids were playing, the rest of us were playing nice arcade conversions like Golden Axe, Out Run and Afterburner at last instead of crappy Activision/US Gold Amiga conversions lol of course when the Street Fighter bundle came out we all got a SNES....so it is Starwing and SF2 that helped them to even get to 1 million in the UK. Japan and USA retro is just totally different for us in the UK.......now if we could just erase the ZX Rectum games from the history books.............lol

Sega wins this hands down. Graphics are crisp clear detailed and bright.

pour avoir la version megadrive, snes et amiga la meilleure version est sans conteste celle de l'amiga et la plus baclé celle de la snes....shadow of the beast legacy ( shadow of the beast 1 & 2 & 3 ) sur pc reprend à l'identique la version amiga avec le choix de la difficulté non négligeable et quelques options ....les 2 meilleurs de la série pour moi c'est le 1 et le 3 ...et pour vous ?

amiga all the way

Why does the amiga version look the best? The other computers were more capable.

@stephenhall2980

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and don't forget the Paula sound chip that can play high quality 4 channel sampled sound. Hence this amazing soundtrack.

8:00 SNES always agaist blood xDDD

Amiga followed by Genesis

PC ENGINE CD: better animations, sound, graphics/colors. SNES: Better sounds, colors Genesis: details AMIGA: Graphics/colors, details, presentations. AMIGA WINS! WTF?

@RaysBonuses

5 жыл бұрын

Amiga by a mile on this one.

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1 Amiga THE BEST nettement au dessus, 2 Megadrive, 3 Super Nes, 4 Pc Engine

Wow, the animation in th PC Engine CD is amazing, so many more frames. Other than that, the Amige has the best art and colors.

@Jebbidan

4 жыл бұрын

It's sharp and it's not even *the best* at graphic *standards*

The best version is undoubtedly the Commodore Mamiga, then the megadrive / genesis and the worst the SNES ...