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Charlie rose can't let go of the myth of Camelot.

It was Charlie's job here to discredit Hersh. He tries and tries, but Hersh is no dimwit celebrity or film director. So, nice try Charlie, but didn't work.

This is like a physics professor trying to explain quantum theory to an 8-year-old. What a braying buffoon Charlie Rose was. Does anyone have a link to the ABC piece excerpted at the end?

@MarkRaymondLuce

2 жыл бұрын

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I wish Charlie would can it sometimes. Ask the question, let the man answer.

It was a rough and tumble interview conducted by Charlie Rose, but Seymour Hersh firmly held to his ground with command of the facts. At times it seemed personal for Charlie in trying to keep JFK's reputation from getting sullied. Perhaps it was agonizing for him to start letting go of the "myth of Camelot" that for decades many Americans held on to out of respect and sympathy for the dead president's widow.

After Clinton Lewinsky all what Hersh says about JFK is suddenly not just believable but probable.

@MarkRaymondLuce

2 жыл бұрын

Not probable, but very factual! Watch the documentary that was referenced in the above Charlie Rose interview near the end of this Charlie Rose interview, the title is "Dangerous World The Kennedy Years", it was hosted by Peter Jennings and aired on Thursday evening 8:00 PM Eastern Standard Time December 4th 1997 on ABC - it was a Thursday evening; the above Seymour Hersh interview by Charlie Rose aired on Tuesday night on PBS December 2nd, 1997. I put the URL above but you can also find it by title on You Tube.

@MyNameIsSeamus

2 жыл бұрын

All of the material that catalyst his book was proven to be a complete hoax lmao.

@gamernorcal

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyNameIsSeamus nah i dont' believe that. I am a fan of JFK but i'm not a blind follower. There still is a mega media bias to protect the Kennedy's image. The claims of hoax were back in 1997 but many ppl since have backed up a lot of what was in Hersh's book.

@r.williamcomm7693

Жыл бұрын

Amazed at how Rose tries to take Hersh down. Amazed at how the US culture changes when the president is younger & more energetic.

@gamernorcal

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@@r.williamcomm7693 Rose was part of the legacy media. Any dissention among the elite must be surpressed.

32:14 love that line and the way he delivers it

Is this Charlie Rose's worst interview?

So appreciating this in 2023!!! Education. And what a great journalist!!!!😂

It’s adversarial questions that evince the best reactions and thoughts. Gj Charlie

Very engaging!

The ultimate irony. Charlie Rose interviewing Hersh about a hit job on JFK's personal life when 20 years later Me Too cancelled Rose and many other innocent people over false charges.

Everyone wanted to believe the myth.

❤Hersh

Charlie's own recklessness is exposed here, prior to it being revealed, by his defending or excusing Kennedy's frequent indiscretions and character flaws, thus endangering US position.

Imagine how much we might have learned from Hersch if sex-scandal-ridden Charlie Rose WOULD HAVE SHUT UP AND LET HIM TALK! Love that book by Hersh by the way. Its a must read.

Charlie was actually awful wasn't he?

@markberryhill2715

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of projection here from our old buddy Charlie, huh?

What kind of question is "how successful was his presidency?" His head was blown off. WTF does that add up to?

@veritas6335

2 жыл бұрын

It adds up to a miserable pathetic loner paid off by mafia goons to shoot him. As simple as that.

What is wrong with Charlie Rose? Doesn’t he know how to let his guests speak without continuous interruption?

I don't think the man was allowed to finish a single thought.

Think about how the allegations that took down Rose were inside his head during this interview jumping on Hersh? With today’s knowledge Rose took the accusations of Kennedy’s philandering personally.

If you look really closely at he's passport it reads, Charlie Rose Kennedy.....

Internet was still infancy in 1997. 🖥️🖥️

Kennedy, the charismatic mesmerizing pretty boy, got lucky on the missile crisis. He thought we could call the Russians' bluff, that their missiles weren't ready to launch in Cuba. The Corona sat recon footage was mis-analyzed, though, and we know now they hard all the parts, fuel, and warheads installed already. So when the Russians, who actually didn't want war but also didn't want a first strike against them from Turkey, saw our strong move in favor of war, they thought Kennedy was nuts. Kennedy knew his generals, the real nuts, wanted war with their propaganda that we were on the losing side of a missile gap. The generals believed the Corona sat analysis, too. So best case in Kennedy's view, Russia backs down. Worst case, the brass get the war they want over with sooner before missile parity occurs and Russia becomes a real threat. Kennedy was rational with the information he had, but lucky. I do agree that the Turkey missiles exchange was bad for US power, but considering Russia knew the strength of the hand they were holding, it's understandable that in the secret back channel negotiations it took something of that magnitude to get them to finally pull their missiles out of Cuba. I'm not going to deny the Kennedy brothers were sleazy though, or hawks, or that Jack wasn't telling national secrets to his girlfriends, and both of them weren't pissing off the Cuba Project at their own peril. I think a book like this is, in part, a veiled attempt by Hersh to 'understand' people inside the national security establishment who condoned their elimination. After all, the Kennedy brothers are gone and Hersh has to continue to develop national security sources on the inside. As to what Kennedy believed in? He believed WWIII was going to be mass murder and did want to try and avoid that as much as the generals would allow him to do. That's something.

And wo ist sein letzte Interview über Terror Anschlag am Nord Strym Pepeleyn ?

back when there were real voices of opposition on television - but sadly it never changed one damn thing!

Interesting to hear Hersh dismiss Eisenhower arguably a much more substantial figure than JFK especially if one looks at his entire career. And what about Nixon? Would Khrushchev have dared to put missiles in Cuba if Nixon had been President?

Charlie Rose is the defender of the establishment. I look at presidents and never see a single one that is a heroic figure. Rose is there to promote them all as great men leading a great country. That is a true believer in the establishment and it’s kind of funny that he was unceremoniously pushed out of his promotional career by #MeToo accusations.

The Dark Side of Charlie Rose - the Art of Self Extinction. Icarus Crash

Charlie Rose, the STATES lapdog. Mr. Softball himself. Bye, bye.

In another interview, Hirsh said that Gen Alexander Haig had suggested to Nixon bringing out an Airborne unit to protect the President. For the record, Hirsh was misinformed. I have a relative who worked at NSA at the time of the Nixon administration. He went into work one day a big Nixon fan and then came home furious with Nixon. For decades he couldn't say why he was furious with Nixon. The reason was that Nixon had called Gen Haig into the Oval office to run past him the idea of declaring martial law. Thankfully, Haig could keep a composed facial expression and he cooly and reasonably explained to Nixon that doing so would undermine the U.S. in the eyes of both our alluies and enemies. Further, Haig told Nixon, the action would problem panic the public, rather than bringing order. Nixon agreed with Haig's reasoning and gave up the idea. Haig was a West Point graduate. It sound, from Hirsh having heard a reverse of what really happened, that Haig kept anyone who learned about Nixon's idea believing that Haig himself had simply dsuggested it as an option to Nixon when Nixon conferred with him on one occasion when there was so much rioting in the streets. That showed character as well as intelligence on Haig's part. Better people who happened to hear about--probably from a flustered Nixon--believed that Nixon was not himself contemplating any such extreme measure as martial law. Thank you, Gen Haig.

Sounds to me like Charlie is blocking for jfk. No surprise here

JFK was a great leader. Maybe the best this Country’s ever had. He was flawed yes. You could say his flaws were as big as he was. It important to remember 1960 was an entirely different time. Men behaved differently and the press stayed out of their personal lives. You can’t transfer 2022 rules to 1960. JFK was a man of his time and he was confident that his womanizing wouldn’t be uncovered until many years later after he was out of office or even after he was dead, which is ultimately what happened.

Charlie Rose is being super pro-Kennedy here. Almost makes me question why is he considered a great interviewer?

@r.williamcomm7693

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Think about how the allegations that took down Rose were inside his head during this interview jumping on Hersh.

There is nothing in this interview.

Take a look at Charlie's session with Noam Chomsky. He was way out of his depth, and realizing it seemed to turn him into a petulant child. Charlie's mind is saturated with American Dream ideology. And Kennedy had more charisma than beauty.

Mr Hersh is a gifted writer. Celebrated in many circles. Once again his talent comes forward in this book. JFK was both a very gifted and a very flawed person. Some pretty disturbing stuff here. But why the hatchet job ? It smacks of a hatchet job as clearly JFK's most interesting girlfriend of all Mary Meyer. And that story seems absent from the book. That clearly lead to a pathway Mr Hersh did not want to go. That's what makes it stink like a hatchet job. I have the book and read it, Some time ago. Still have it.

Pitiful performance by Rose.

Nice argument. Yawn

Condescending Charlie.

Charlie shouldn't do this interview. He can't be objective.

Fun fact: If it looks like a Comintern mole, acts like a Comintern mole, and pontificates at length like a Comintern mole you'd be a moron / small child not to assume it's ostensibly a Comintern mole.

@georgeseiling5719

2 жыл бұрын

(Sy Hersh was / is ostensibly a lifelong ? Comintern mole.)