How fresh does this sound almost 50 years old. Fantastic.

The entire album is aces.

On the original UK version the song Submission wasnt included, but on the re-release (and CD) it was inbetween Anarchy and Pretty Vacant. And it was on the US version of the album too. Its a great tune, catchy and groovy youd like it, I think its one of the highlights of the album. You should hit it after the last track EMI.

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192

2 ай бұрын

Definitely. It’s often my favorite song on the album.

@Owlstretchingtime78

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree. It would be a crime to ignore 'Submission', one of the albums finest moments!

@samgunston8769

2 ай бұрын

Literally my favourite song from them, would be absolutely criminal to not react to it

@Elvin_Pelvin

2 ай бұрын

I couldn't understand what you were saying about Submission not being included on the original UK version as I had bought the LP on its year of release (1977) and Submission is definitely on that record. I had seen the import version with the pink sleeve so I thought you had confused it with this however, I have looked it up on wiki and, well it looks like by not being so eager to get hold of a copy before anyone else I got the full album as it is supposed to be.

Max's Kansas City and CBGBs were pretty much the two original NYC clubs (along with one or two others) where you could see punk bands perform live. The sealed with a kiss, Looking For A Kiss reference has to be about the New York Dolls (and their song), who had Malcolm McLaren as a manager prior to the Pistols.

Agreed again. One of the best songs in the album.

Johnny's love letter to the stuck in a rut US punk scene. Touching

Sex Pistols are so underrated. Some people have always bad mouthed them.

@manhattenman6075

2 ай бұрын

under-appreciated, I wouldnt say their underrated in the punk world but they did get a lot of flack and They deserve to be held as one of the greats.

@jimhardiman3836

2 ай бұрын

They bad mouthed a lot of other bands themselves.

@linusfotograf

2 ай бұрын

@@jimhardiman3836 Well, I mean musically people have always been saying they were terrible musicians etc. That’s simply not true. I guess Sid is to blame

Steve Jones and Paul Cook. Criminally under-appreciated

I really hope you give ‘Submission’ (which was included in the 12-track version of this album and ‘Did you no wrong’ which was the B-Side of ‘God Save The Queen’) a listen because they’re arguably 2 of their best songs and probably my favourites!

This song would be banned today just because of one word. The lyrics also make references to the NY Dolls

@simonspeak9288

2 ай бұрын

Yet ‘Fairytale of New York’ is still played frequently on the radio every Christmas.

@manhattenman6075

2 ай бұрын

@@simonspeak9288as it should be

@simonspeak9288

2 ай бұрын

@@manhattenman6075 of course. I thought it was funny they recently changed the lyrics of Baby it’s Cold Outside so people (not sure who exactly) wouldn’t be offended, but FONY gets a free pass.

I remember catching a bus from the burbs into the city to buy this album when it came out. Here in Australia, Submission was on it. Killer song, played it over and over again. What a great album.

The song contains multiple references to the New York Dolls. Malcolm McLaren was their manager for the final portion of the Dolls' career and obviously for the Pistols as well. Max's was a venue that the Dolls played in NY. And at the time , Dolls' guitarist Johnny Thunders was playing in the Heartbreakers (not Tom's) and toured England with the original British punk bands. Thunders responded to this song on his great album, So Alone with the song London Boys which featured Paul Cook and Steve Jones playing on it. Both the response song and album are well worth checking out.

Now you have to listen to Johnny Thunders reply. “ London Boys” Johnny was the guitarist for The New York Dolls & there’s a ton of lyrics in here referencing The Dolls..

Can see you are enjoying this album like the rest of us! Love Johnnys snarkiness also!

The heaviest punk song from that era. Jones and Cook immense!

The Pistols were a great rock band.... with a punk tag!!! Steve Jones guitar work is amazing,great distortion....his solo album "Fire and Gasoline " is a banger.........The Pistols were a great,great rock band🎸🎸🎸

One of the prefect albums great song

Love this track, glad you enjoyed it and don’t forget that Everybody knows, Japan is a dishpan 😅

Love Steve's guitar!

New York is one of my most favorite tracks too, it doesn't get nearly enough credit. Max's Kansas City was a club like CBGB's that had a lot of Punk shows, so yeah it was a diss track against the New York scene.

I thought I'd missed your reaction for the song 'Submission' which precedes this track on the 'normal' UK LP release however, I see from below that it was not on the initial pressing for some odd reason. 'Submission' is one of their more 'arty' songs and though hardly 'out there' it was nevertheless a surprise to me to hear it at the time.

When this came out I took it down to the local college radio station. My friend was a late night DJ there. I asked him to play this album. After Doing so on air he smashed it and said " punk sucks " on air. There were few of us who enjoyed punk at the time. You must know the band were not good musicians at this time. Maxs kansas city was a hip crappy bar where punk bands played. See also CBGBs

Max's Kansas City . One of THE clubs in NYC. EVERYONE played there .

Japan in a dishpan is a song by Captain Beefheart.

Glen Matlock never played on this or the album, or so the story goes. Listen to the demo and the Spunk album and you will hear the real basslines. When he was fired, it was over.

Van Der Graaf Generator meets the Stooges via The New York Dolls.

Sex Pistols God Save the Queen single on the A+M label recently sold at Omega Auction house (UK based) for £16,500!

Anybody heard that new Rolling Stones song that is a direct ripoff of the song Liar off this album? What a crock. This cd permanently resides in my truck. If I find myself dozing, I pop this in and I'm speeding instead of dozing!

@londonlion5179

2 ай бұрын

A bit of payback, maybe? You may or may not know that Mick Jagger paid all of Sid Vicious' legal costs for his court case

1 Ramones 2 Sex Pistols 3 Clash

another vote for ''Submission'', please

Oh yeah.

This was about the New York Dolls

Interesting that JP finds this one of the best songs on the album - not me - I'd rate most of the songs 7-9/10 but this is maybe a six. as it doesn't have a distinctive hook like the rest. EMI next, I suspect and that is a killer. Worth reading about the story behind the song beforehand though as both that track's and New York's lyrics make little sense unless you know what Johnny is ranting about.

I hate to admit it, as I recognize their historical importance, but The Sex Pistols never have done much for me, I connected a lot more with The Clash, or MC5 or Iggy The Stooges before them, they never really completely grabbed me, sorry folks.

@johnsilva9139

2 ай бұрын

Joe Strummer formed The Clash after seeing The Sex Pistols who opened for his old band The 101ers. They were more of a typical pub-rock style band. Strummer saw which way the wind was blowing and changed his musical direction.

I think it's a pretty good song, like all the rest which came from this album. But not a highlight at all. Actually, it sounds like everything you've already heard before. Still great, but somewhat generic.

The Pistols were good but The Clash and The Jam were better, also Punk was conceived in the USA but it was more of a scene in the UK….

@Owlstretchingtime78

2 ай бұрын

I don't know why people mention The Jam. Around at the same time, but Punk they weren't!

@a.k.1740

2 ай бұрын

@@Owlstretchingtime78 The Jam certainly weren't punk, but given that they appeared at the same time and that their debut album In the City had the same energy, they were included in the lot along with The Stranglers and a few others...! In any case, the punk movement wasn't necessarily uniform, especially at that time, so it's not so illogical that The Jam should be included, at least for a year at the most.

@sexpistol7712

2 ай бұрын

The jam wernt punk.

@sexpistol7712

2 ай бұрын

Punk came along with the ramones really , new York dolls were more glam rock . Richard hell was amazing too .

@Owlstretchingtime78

2 ай бұрын

@sexpistol7712 I get what @ak is saying, but no i can't conceive them as Punk however you look at it!

Worst song on a masterpiece album.

@paulcollins5586

2 ай бұрын

Thats punk its not about songwriting. Its attitude.

@sexpistol7712

2 ай бұрын

Your so wrong , but your entitled to your opinion.

@SpaceCattttt

2 ай бұрын

@@sexpistol7712 So the album isn't a masterpiece, according to you?

@sexpistol7712

2 ай бұрын

@SpaceCattttt the whole album is a masterpiece, your saying it isn't, by saying new york is no good . New york is brilliant.

@SpaceCattttt

2 ай бұрын

@@sexpistol7712 That's not what I said. 🙄

It's about Johnny Thunders ahah. Great tune

Brilliant love it ❤