Servicing a Vintage Fleischmann HO locomotive

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This is a Video on how to service Vintage Fleischmann HO locomotives with Ringfield (Pancake) motors. The Locomotive used for demonstration was a Fleischmann 4700 F-Unit . These were manufactured between 1960-1973. I hope you find this video useful. The locomotive was given to my Dad by his brother. It has been in our family for almost 50 years, out of which for the past 30+ years, it was stored away in a box. deutsche modellbahn
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0:00 - Intro
0:42 - Intro to Fleischmann 4700 and Ring-field motors
4:20 - Pre Service testing
7:36 - Motor and truck disassembly
16:17 - Cleaning of Motor
19:23 - Cleaning of Commutator
27:20 - Cleaning of Transmission
36:46 - Description of lubricants I use
39:46 - Motor reassembly
45:36 - Pickup truck disassembly
50:10 - Pickup truck reassembly
52:53 - Testing Loco on Layout

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  • @jeanlouis866
    @jeanlouis8666 ай бұрын

    (De Paris) 👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻👏🏻Merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo car je suis 100% Fleischmann depuis 50 ans…👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻👏🏻

  • @kadiruyumaz4443
    @kadiruyumaz44432 ай бұрын

    I have same problem. I will try that thank you

  • @tonploem6959
    @tonploem6959 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Very enlightening, practical and encouraging do carry out maintenance yourself. Especially the different ways of cleaning and lubricating the different parts of these locs is very helpful in preventing unwanted troubles!

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ton . I appreciate the feedback . I have not been able to shoot any videos lately , but will be getting back into it very soon . Cheers - Anthony -

  • @patrickmartin5958
    @patrickmartin59582 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this, made SOP notes from it. Have 20 Fleischmann engines that need this sort of attention. Done bits of this before but its nice to see it all together. Look forward to more like this.

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pat , thanks for the feedback .. Appreciate it . I would love to hear about the 20 Fleischmann loco's that you have .. , Do you have a mixture of Steam , Electric and Diesel ? would like to hear about them . If you also need the service sheets or specific information about them ( which era , when were they manufactured etc .. ) let me know , I should be able to get that info for you .. Regards, - Anthony -

  • @patrickmartin5958

    @patrickmartin5958

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyshobbycorner Hi there, have 61 Fleischmann engines, 26 of them had some sort of issue; 11 shunting, 1 Bahn-bus, 7 V100, 8 V200, 2 V218, 3 BR68 SNCF, 2 Ae 6/6 Swiss, 7 BR55/44 Medium Steam, 9 BR01/50 large steam and 13 E10/E103/E44 electric. The issue is a lack of electric knowledge on my part, following your steps has solved a couple. I take apart a working engine to map out wiring to duplicate in a non-runner and still get a stuttering engine or track power killer. When HO Fleishmann ‘left the building’ I bought up hundreds of parts to keep the engines going for years. Have all the diagrams, thank you. I keep notes and take photos of everything. All a big challenge. Pat

  • @LarsPW
    @LarsPW10 ай бұрын

    The commutator of this motor was remarkably oily - I have never seen a condition like this before. But at least it prevented corrosion over 50 years in the box. Fleischmann recommended just a small drop of oil for each bearing. They offered a useful little bottle to apply the recommended oil (Art. 6599). But your "hobby oil" looks suitable. The older Fleischmann motors had a small washer similar to the buds you used to clean. It functioned as a kind of storage for the oil and prevented it from going on the commutator - if serviced as recommended and not drowned in whatever. In the newer versions the bearings themselves work like a sponge and keep the small amount of oil in position due to capillar effects. If too much oil is applied the same capillar effects will make the bearings running dry soon. There is as well a washer between bearing and commutator, very thin and translucent in this version, getting lost easily. It helps to keep the oil apart from the commutator and prevents the commutator from touching the housing. I do not use a special conducting oil for the commutator bearing.

  • @eletronicaparaohooby
    @eletronicaparaohooby10 ай бұрын

    Here in Brazil, we have a Sister of this locomotive.

  • @fp3359
    @fp33596 ай бұрын

    A tip from me: Use an ultrasonic bath..... for the drivetrain aswell. . You use wayyy to much oil - half of a tiny drop is enough. Greetz from 🇳🇱

  • @williambryant5946
    @williambryant59463 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! 👍

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍

  • @MultiGoulash
    @MultiGoulash2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent servicing guide. I really need to dig out all my Fleischmann trains and clean them, had mine in storage now for around 25-30 years. Really should do something with them, using them sadly is not an option

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words .. I'm glad you found the vid useful .. I will be shooting more vids during the holidays .. more service videos to come .. You must have an amazing collection of Fleischmann , if they are 25-30 years old .. Definite jewels for sure ... Let me know if you need any information ( service sheets ) etc for your old Fleischmann loco's .., I can get them for you . Also , if you need any help , don't hesitate to ask ... Would love to see your Fleischmann collection ... Take care , Regards, Anthony ..

  • @tazsnuts99
    @tazsnuts993 жыл бұрын

    Just got old German one restored can't wait to run itn

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi , which Locomotive did you get restored ? Is it a Fleischmann ? Trix ? Brawa ? Marklin ? Piko ?

  • @Tinhat47
    @Tinhat476 ай бұрын

    Excellent video! I used it as a guide last week in servicing the motor on my first Fleischmann locomotive (4016 BR 70). It runs beautifully now but draws a lot of current, so much that it overloads my controller. Is there any common culprit in these motors that causes such huge power draws?

  • @eanferrell
    @eanferrellАй бұрын

    Hi Anthony, Need your help with a Fleischmann Alco FA unit. Ringfield and gears are fine, thanks to your tutelage with this video. It's missing the copper (brass) nub on the rear truck, which I am unsure makes a difference. It has trouble making a complete lap without nudging it, and for no reason the rear truck derails. I wish you had a personal email/Facebook page to message you with. Awaiting your answer. Thanks.

  • @RobertNowagarski
    @RobertNowagarski8 ай бұрын

    I found a locomotive from the 40s-50s last service was in 52 from the tag left on the inside of it I’d love to figure out what it is

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    7 ай бұрын

    Hi Robert, If you send me a few pictures , I may be able to help you figure it out . Please send me a pic of the bottom of the locomotive as well ( where I can see the wheels etc .. Send me the pictures to Anthonyshobbycorner@gmail.com. Glad to help out.

  • @UrologicTOSH
    @UrologicTOSH7 ай бұрын

    I happily I own to sets of the Alco FA'. So glad that I stumbled on to your channel. both of my sets were painted as Santa Fe. I stripped them and repainted the locomotives as New York Cwntral and the other set as Baltimore ^ Ohio. I also repaired the motors but not to the degree of yours. Can you tell me what the button is for on the rear truck? Is your F7 AC?

  • @georgeorwell5842
    @georgeorwell58422 жыл бұрын

    Hi Anthony, I came across your video just now while searching for resources to get a trio of old Fleischmann locomotives I picked up today running again. The seller couldn't tell me much about them but there where two old lubrication charts, one for a "1302 G + 1302 R 1202 Z" a little blue and white electric two axle loco with spring loaded pantograph on it's roof, the other for a a "1362" DB Steam locomotive (though underneath the two axle front idler wheels is cast then number '1342' while under the tender is cast 12/517. This locomotive has 3 drive wheel axles and a single rear idler wheel axle, though the images on the lube chart match this loco. The other one, also a DB, has '12/953' cast under the single front idler wheel axle, 5 drive wheel axles and no rear idler wheels. On the underside of the tender is cast '12/517' (though this tender is a different design from the first). Of the three the only one that worked for a short period is the '1362' but it was making grinding noise and stopped after about four feet. Do you know of a website with info on vintage Fleischmann locos? These are at least 30 or more years old and when I tried to find info on them at Fleischmann's present day site I came up empty. The little electric loco looks like it's got a similar motor to the one in your video & I suspect the steam locos are similar but with the actual motor in the tender as the 1st three axles have geared wheels on one side of the tender and I'm assuming the pickup wheels are on the locomotive itself as their are two wires that run between the tender and loco. I can send photos of them if you'd like

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    Жыл бұрын

    hi George , I'm so sorry for responding to you this late . i had stepped away from KZread during summer to take care of all the summer chores which were piling up . ok, so I can definitely help you with these locomotives. Here is my email address. contact me via email and we can take the discussion from there . I have fixed many of these Fleischmann's . There is a site which keeps all the old information on Fleischmann's of which I used to be a member of , but I don't have a membership anymore .. Just did not have time to renew it . Here is the link to that site . Some info , you can get for free ,. www.fleischmann-ho.nl/e/database-fleischmann-ho/database-flmho-e.htm Send me an email to the address I provided , and I will be more than happy to assist you . Regards, - Anthony -

  • @TophatOrange
    @TophatOrange3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, realy clear and to the point explanation, just took out my set from 40 years ago and gonna clean them up. sub. do you als have a video about how to cean the tracks?

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    HI Thank you for the kind comments . I will posting more locomotive cleaning vids for different models / manufactures. With regards to track cleaning , I do have a video posted, and it is called "Cleaning model railroad tracks - Do's and Don'ts " thank you for the Sub .. Much appreciated ... IF you need any help with your locomotives please don't hesitate to reach me .. Anthonyb1019@gmail.com . Regards, - Anthony -

  • @Keldervarken
    @Keldervarken3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this great in depth and detailed video. I really like older Fleischmann H0! I have an issue with the 4912, it was getting really hot and it was very noisy and didn't seem to run at full strength. I tried cleaning the commutator with cotton buds and circuit cleaner, but I was too afraid to compelety open up the motor. It's running a little more quiet and a lot cooler now, but still slow and more noisy than I'm used to. Any suggestions? I guess there's more gunk in there, so I will have to open up the motor and thoroughly clean it. Thank you for the multimeter tip too, I will check that as well. Much obliged!

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi , It is hard to diagnose without hearing or seeing the locomotive. However I am more than willing to help you address this issue. Based on the Fleischmann DB, seems like this is a Special edition locomotive built in 2005 , which case as a stand alone loco, or as part of train set. It says that it has a NEM651 DI connector, a flywheel motor. Unfortunately , i am unable to locate the service sheet for this loco. If you give me your contact Info , I am more than happy to connect with you and help you diagnose the issue . Here is my email address. Anthonyb1019@gmail.com. I will give you my phone number , if you choose to connect with me via email . I am more than happy to connect and help you get this loco back to normal operation. Based on what you described , I am thinking that the bearings on each side of the motor is lacking lubrication . But I can't say that for sure without listening to the loco run . Further , If you need help , I can walk you through the process on how to clean the internals of the motor. It is not as scary as you think .. If this is a newer can motor , then it is unlikely that your commutator is fouled. - Regards, - Anthony . -

  • @Keldervarken

    @Keldervarken

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyshobbycorner Hi, thank you for the reply, I sent you an email :)

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Keldervarken Hi I'm sorry . I just saw your response .. I searched my inbox , can't seem to find it , i must have deleted the email by accident . Can you please resend , so that it is at the top of my inbox .. Tks , Glad to help you out , Once we are in contact .. Regards, - Anthony -

  • @rustykilt
    @rustykilt3 жыл бұрын

    I would appreciate if you could shine some light on the FLEISCHMANN PRUSSIAN STEAM LOCO 93 1155 B. This model was given to me, still boxed a year ago. Its HO Scale and includes GERMAN instruction manual. I cannot find info on the net as to when it was produced. The instructions indicate loco number 1155, with the number 81256 on the engine. I assume its quite old bu highly detailed. The box is all in GERMAN. Any info would be much appreciated. cheers .tom

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    HI Rusty ... Not a problem , I should be able to get you information on the loco. I have 2 prussian steams 0=4=0 tender drives by Fleischmann . Your is very similar . I let me see what info I can get you on it . I will do some digging tonight and will try to get back to you tomorrow .. Regards - Anthony -

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Rusty , I found the information on your locomotive. If you give me your email address , I can send you quick screen capture of the info , which I have directly from Fleischmann Database . The 93. 1155B is a goods locomotive and it was an AC model specially made for Export to Belgium . It has the serial number 81-256 ( 55. 25-56) . The Fleischmann model was built in 1988 replicating Era III ( Epoch III).. I was also able to locate the service sheet ( how to open the loco and the list of parts ) for the 1155 locomotive . The service sheet indicates that it was manufactured in 1995 , but other data via fleischmann indicates 1998 . either way , you can assume it was manufactured between 1995 - 1998 . IF you want the service sheet, give me your email address and i will send you the PDF ... Regards, - Anthony -

  • @rustykilt

    @rustykilt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyshobbycorner Hi Andy.. Much appreciate the information and the trouble you have taken. You can send the PDF to ma at blackpanzer@hotmail.com. Really appreciate your time.

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rustykilt - Not a problem Rusty , Service sheet coming your way . Regards, - Anthony -

  • @charlie1872
    @charlie1872 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Anthony, glad I found your video. I have a layout and I have HirnbyTriang/Lima model trains. I recently purchased a non running Hornby and I found out it has a Fleischman motor. So I went on a journey ir comedy of errors trying to get it running. I eventually did but then decided to take the plate off to clean the armature. This was my worst nightmare and turned out to be. I lost the springs and cover clips for the brushes! I found the covers and obviously did not secure them properly. Is there a trick to ensuring the clips fit securely? Great job.

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi , Thank you for your comment. I checked out your video of the Hornby/Fleischmann loco . This is the 1st time I have seen such a setup . Either way , I'm glad you finally got it working . Also , Did I hear correctly that you were in Toronto Canada ? If so , let me know . I live about 30 mins North , In Newmarket , Ontario. With regards to the clips ( covers which hold the springs ) the trick is to hold them with nose pliers . If they are sliding off too easy , you can give the curved tabs a bit of a squeeze to ensure they grab better . Here is my email . reach out to me via email and we can connect : anthonyshobbycorner@gmail.com . I have serviced a ton of these fleischmann's so if you need help with them please don't hesitate to ask . Also I use Brasso to clean the commutator . that is freely available here in any hardware store . take care - Regards - Anthony .

  • @charlie1872

    @charlie1872

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi Anthony, yes I live in RH. I found two hornby Flieschman motors at the Great British Train show last weekend, both in great working condition. I was also told that John’s trains has sone of those caps Cheers Charlie

  • @Bonzoguy66
    @Bonzoguy662 жыл бұрын

    I have a V200 die cast, with the same engine and wheels… Fleischmann

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah the V200 . That is one loco , that I have yet to get .. I nick name it the "loaf of bread" lol .. The prices are bit high right now in ebay etc ... So I will keep looking for a good deal .. These Fleischmann's are so easy to maintain and they are solid runners .. will last a lifetime ..

  • @Taerial
    @Taerial3 жыл бұрын

    Clean the motor with ascetone, far more effective than alcohol.

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comment . I'm tend to stay away from acetone as it is does not play well with plastics. I use Contact cleaner mostly , as it is designed to clean electrical contacts such as brushes , contactors , relays etc ... Appreciate your feedback . . Regards, Anthony

  • @andrewpotash4551
    @andrewpotash45513 жыл бұрын

    You have mis represented the model. This is not the original fleischmann f3 model 1341 was all metal and preceded this model by more than a decade. The original motor was not a ring field but rectangular. The ring field was adopted mid sixties than injection molding replaced diecast after 1970

  • @anthonyshobbycorner

    @anthonyshobbycorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    good observation . However, I don't have a 1341 nor am I referring to it The 1341 is an Alco and was built between 1959 - 1967. , Rather I have a 1343 ( 4700 ) which is an EMD unit ( . According to the Fleischmann database , the 1343 was manufactured between 1960 - 1973. ) . You are correct in that the 1341 was built a decade prior , but that's not what i have.

  • @BarefootCuer

    @BarefootCuer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyshobbycorner The Fleischmann F7 was originally built in 1960 and came in Burlington colors (German catalogue). For the US market, it was also produced in Santa Fe, Union Pacific and New Haven colors, supplementing the 1341 Alco FA (with a die-cast shell) in the same colors. The German catalogue changed the livery from Burlington to Santa Fe in 1970, when their new numbering was introduced. The headlight was added by a previous owner as the Fleischmann F7s were produced without a working headlight. (The 1341 FAs had workling headlights and illuminated number boards.)

  • @BarefootCuer

    @BarefootCuer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Note that the silhoutte on the box end next to the number 4700 shows the 1341 (Alco FA) in the Santa fe livery!

  • @22763344
    @2276334411 ай бұрын

    Aqui algo de interés.kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHmcmtOpgbTPk7g.html

  • @eletronicaparaohooby
    @eletronicaparaohooby10 ай бұрын

    On this video i have to change The motor. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHWCzbxxZqnOe5M.htmlsi=iHdOOsRkolECDKIT

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