Sharing this teaching that is straight from the Word of God is a must with my sisters in Christ! Whatever age or position Even those ladies who are still being drawn to the truth of the gospel. God's plan before our existence was that we would be His bride. We learn how to be His bride by submitting to the headship God has given us. Himself. And if He says He is the head of man and man is the head of the woman, it is the most just, righteous, true and holy authority and joy of life. There is nothing better than trusting God and His Word, knowing that neither will ever change! Praise and glory to our Father and our Bridegroom to come. ❤️

@framboise595

Жыл бұрын

@ Sheika Sweeney God is a God of order but when male dominance disappears , order disappears as well . Women 's goal is to safeguard civilisation by submitting to the divine principles of Patriarchy in total subjection to men.

@sheilasweeney6505

8 ай бұрын

Framboise595, I think you are missing the love story btwn God and His church. We women are not shouldered to safeguard civilization as you said above. We are to honor God and love HIM with all of our being, first and foremost. And THEN we will be able to respect and honor our husbands, faithfully, and delightfully, as GOD blesses our devotion and surrendering to HIM, this glorifying HIM and satisfying us! Then HE makes the changes necessary in our husbands who may not be submitted enough to Christ and His call to lead lovingly and graciously. A beautiful resting, obeying, glorifying dance honoring the Father, OUr Savior His Son, and the Holy Spirit empowering us within! Amen I do hope you study Eph. 5 and pray fervently and listen closely to the Lord's voice to you through His presence and Living Word.

Thank you so much for this!!

Blown away. So reassuring!

So good !! Love it ❤️

Loved this! Articulate and theologically based, I couldn't have expressed my beliefs better!

What a great sermon! I for sure have struggled to understand certain scripture and how that plays out in God's plan for me as wife. This is extremely helpful!

Great message. I believe God always 'knows best', and of course, there is always a reason for everything. I think there are some churches that need to listen to this sermon. Male and Female. God bless your ministry

“As you come to him, the living Stone-rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him- you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:4-5‬ ‭NIV‬‬ Women are part of the holy priesthood here.

For me this was more than just a great sermon, this was a final answer to what I already believed to be true in the mind and Word of God. It was communicated in such a loving and compassionate manner and I am SO appreciative that I was in a space to look, listen and learn. Thank you brother for allowing God to use you to speak to my heart 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@framboise595

Жыл бұрын

@ Henry Rhodes Complementarianism is a huge lie since the woman was made FOR the man and because for him. Not the man for the woman. The plain biblical teaching consisting in saying that husbands rule and wives submit to them in everything has been turned into a mess by all those guys twisting the Word in order to tailor it to satanic marxist feminism. The emasculation of men is going full swing among churchians. Now females rule and males serve and Satan wins.

Excellent

thanks for local church is important

I still love what he said about marriage.

Love this. Just wish you would also add when sisters in Christ are trying to degrade you/tear you down or play games.

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I agree with him completely, because what he says does not culturalize the Bible, but respects both as God made us to be and to serve. Husbands have a divine command to care for his wife as Christ cares for His bride- the church!

@framboise595

3 жыл бұрын

@ Ricky Sikes Husbands have to care for their wives as their own BODY . Because the wife's body is supposed to belong to the husband and rejoice him all the time ( Proverbs 5:18). Because marriage is a sexual union between man and woman and the remedy towards temptations ( 1 Corinthians 7:4 /5). But that is not what is preached today by those feminist preachers who are always after men and husbands because there is an AGENDA behind their uninspired teachings . Christ cares for his bride because she is HIS. See how the notion of possession has been willfully suppressed in order to turn husbands into little boys in front of mommy wife who runs the show since they are never told to submit anymore ? It is plain devilish .

@branver1172

2 жыл бұрын

The apostle says in I Corinthians 7, the wife does not have authority over her own body but the man does. Then he goes on to say the man does not have authority over his own body, the wife does. So they both belong to each other. And they both belong to God. This is what the Bible says. It’s not feminism.

@framboise595

Жыл бұрын

@@branver1172 Sex is reciprocal because both can be tempted. However , the only one who can posses and take is the man. And THIS is precisely what is under assault in plenty of so called churches in bed with feminism.

I can't find the documentation and explanation on your site.

@jess1987

3 жыл бұрын

Have you found it? I just searched; "The Village Church complimentarian." And it came up with a PDF.

Where’s the counterbalance part where women are told to respect and submit to their husbands as sons of the king and what happens to them when they don’t?

We have met but I can't share my name 😢 😔

I am confused because the Bible says in verse 13 to EVE "what is this you have done" not adam..?? like he said

@nicholascamacho1021

4 жыл бұрын

camryn freiberg What you’ve said is true. However, the point is that when “they heard the sound of the Lord God” and “hid themselves” in verse 8, we see God “called to the man” in verse 9, asking “where are you?” God seeks for and speaks to the man first, even though it is Eve who sins first.

@323azteca

2 жыл бұрын

Step back to verse 9. God seeks the man first, Adam, for an explanation. Not Eve. When duffus Adam points at Eve, then God talks to her.

@framboise595

2 жыл бұрын

@@323azteca God seek the man first because man is the head of creation ! He is the authority in God's eyes. But not according to Chandler and co.

@branver1172

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. God held both accountable for their own sin. You are right.

@Cuvoastoh6321

Жыл бұрын

@@framboise595 Gen.5:2 male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name adam, in the day when they were created.

Advice to all women: If your man is constantly talking about the "complementary" roles of men and women in society, he's probably going to cheat on you.

@dasagondova4544

10 ай бұрын

Exactly!

14:14 however matt chandler didn't mind speaking this quote, furthermore in isaiah 42:14 God crys out like a travailing woman, matt.23:37 and luke 13:34 Jesus likens himself as a mother hen. If men and women are created in the image of God in His word we see attributes that represent both genders, my conclusion: love comes in both forms male and female. Men will have to come to grips with the fact that the scripture says the woman needs to remain silent and is not allowed to teach. Silent means silent. No teaching means no teaching. Yet men make allowances for a woman to teach other women and children and in this they display that they do not obey the scriptures. Paul didn't practice what he preached either, he often mentioned ministry co-workers that were of the female. Evidently they were not silent. Biblical headship has little to do with silencing more than half the body of Christ. "Churchy headship" has more to do with man placing himself between the woman and her God. He usurps her ability to answer her desire to magnify God with her voice, can't use your voice if you're silent. She is determined by "churchy headship" to be an "unfit teacher" (not worthy) to share with men but oh BTW this unfit teacher/teaching we will cast on other women and the children. Seems right to me! Almost the whole Book of Proverbs is written from a mother/woman perspective. She is teaching her grown son and please take note here that she is not usurping his authority. There is many more examples that show God's heart towards women, too numerous to explain in this format, one need only to read the scripture. I will give one more: foot washing, we all know what that is, a service displayed by a loving co-worker in the faith. But just so you know only Jesus and women wash the feet of others in scripture. Check it out for yourself.

Thank you for not caving in to cultural pressure and staying within scripture.

And this is why we are seeing more and more popular female “teachers and preachers” divorcing. Fighting for dominion and place in the world.. and the breakdown of family will be their consequences.

@debrawehrly9551

3 жыл бұрын

How about fighting for equality, not dominion

@323azteca

2 жыл бұрын

Which qualified female preacher is divorcing?

@framboise595

2 жыл бұрын

@@debrawehrly9551 Equality does not exist. Equality is a trap that just allows women to take over and do as they feel and want. Satan wanted to be "equal" to the Most High , in fact he sought dominion because equality cannot exist .

@branver1172

2 жыл бұрын

If woman were taking over, that wouldn’t be equality, would it?

@framboise595

2 жыл бұрын

@@branver1172 Women are not taking over. They HAVE taken over for decades ..all this on behalf of "equality" . Since men have fallen into the trap of equality , they have let their king's throne vacant and women have taken hold of it. Equality does not exist ! You think there can be equality between God and one of his angels ? Power cannot be shared and split. Man is head of woman or woman will be head of man . This is the CURSE we are living now and fake Christianity is just closing her eyes on it , pretending that everything is perfect in la la land but as a result , corruption is going full swing in every way possible . We are living Isaiah 3:12 degeneracy here in the West but Chandler and co , all the YT feminists masquerading as "men of God" just silence this.

God created Adam first and held him responsible for sin entering the world. Men are the spiritual leaders of the house. Biblical submission is completely different than worldly submission.

The church is simply the community of Christians: there are no ranks needed to teach about God given in the bible because preaching isn’t a business. No one is called a pastor in the New Testament. The very first people to preach the gospel were women, sent by Jesus himself to tell the 12 apostles and the first church meetings were in homes. Many women are mentioned as teaching men in the old and new testaments. Deborah was a judge and prophet, contradicting the male teachers of Gods instructions only mentality that many people have used 1 Timothy 2:11-15 to justify. The last chapter of proverbs also contradicts that interpretation, because those are the God inspired of words of Lemuels mother. The other female prophets mentioned in the Old Testament are Miriam, Hulda and Noadiah. Isaiah uses a female prophet as an example of how God uses people to reveal his will. Hulda was used by God to authenticate scripture to men in 2 Chronicles 34:23-26. In the new testament Anna and Philips four daughters are mentioned as prophets. Romans 16:7, Acts 2:17-18 and 24-26, Phillipians 4:2-3, Romans 16:1-12; which mentions Phoebe as a deacon in the original Greek text, 1 Corinthians 1:11 and Collosians 4:15 all mention women who preached, the last verse specifically mentioning that Nympha had church meetings in her home. Paul uses the same word for Phoebes ministry, diakanos, for his ministry in 1 Cor. 3:5; 2 Cor. 3:6, 6:4 and 11:23; Eph 3:7; Col 1:23 and 25. It says in 1 Timothy 3:8-13 what a deacon is to be like, and uses males as an example. 1 Timothy 3’s instructions for overseers and deacons can’t be excluding women, or Phoebe wouldn’t be addressed as a deacon. It even specifies women in verse 11, teaching to act likewise. Women definitely aren’t excluded from being overseers. The parts about keeping silent and not exercising authority over a man mean not to interrupt during lessons and to not be domineering. This is the same context of exercising authority over people that Jesus forbade anyone to do in Matthew 20:25-26. Complementarians oppose one of Gods commands. Preaching Gods revelation does not give authority over another person to begin with. This is the message of salvation to eternal life, no one can afford to restrict anyone available from giving the message to those willing to hear for such a petty reason as sexual differentiation. 1 Timothy 5:14 mentions women’s responsibility to manage their homes, so it can’t be a male specific privilege to dictate how it’s done. Women not being allowed to preach is a human made interpretation motivated by male ego, that requires ignorance of other verses that directly contradict that idea. www.cbeinternational.org/

@randallrader680

3 жыл бұрын

Eric Breaux Ephesians 4:11

@323azteca

2 жыл бұрын

Looove your exposition. Your examples spot on. Only thing I would argue and agree with Pastor Matt Chandler is that God established that hierarchy with one at the head and chose a man for priesthood. And he demand of them to take care if orphans and widowers. But more importantly, the distinction of man and woman, I don't see it as meer sexual differentiation. We are different in emotions and perceptions. And that is a good thing! We women act out of our compassion way more than men. We are more emotional. Even the least emotional woman, is more emotional as we go through our changing cycles every month. There are memes about our differences that we all enjoy. Nothing to be ashamed. Nothing that denotes weakness. It denotes our traits that complement men. And God bless for men! As decisiins need ro be made, God design for the non-emotional one to make it considering the wife, or the sibling as we see the other angle of things. We know we are constantly taught about been careful sbout making decisions under emotions. Think about it. God designed us. He know us so well. Be formulated the perfect plan. No need to fight it. I embrace it and love my role under the King. I will say though, if more men don't step up to fullfill their headship role, more feminsits will step up to fullfill it. And us women will continue to lack that servant leader God called men to be for us and our flourishment.

@ericbreaux6124

2 жыл бұрын

@@323azteca A few months ago I read Wayne Grudem’s book, Systematic Theology in the chapter about genders having different roles. I don’t believe most of the arguments I once did. What changed my mind was that what and who is said to be subject to anyone is never reversed and is always subject to someone with greater authority. Something I’ve never understood is what are husbands allowed to do that wives aren’t. What is being subject to a husband in everything? How much of the husbands role is like Jesus being head of the church? Why can both genders preach but only males can lead church? Originally churches were in homes and it mentions women in the New Testament who had services in their homes. People say they weren’t leading just because they had church in their homes.

@framboise595

Жыл бұрын

@@ericbreaux6124 There is no greater authority after God's than the husband's and you and other men who believe your feminist lies are just blaspheming the Word and going to the slaughterhouse with a smile. They are no better than Adam who was given by God dominion over everything and who failed because of a woman who ruled over him ..his own wife.

@framboise595

Жыл бұрын

@@323azteca Servant leadership has turned men into wimps. Servant leadership is a lie. " God called men to be for us" God did NOT make the man for the woman but the woman for the man. That's why complementarianism is a lie. The only truth is Patriarchy and male dominance. Nothing is more male-centric than the BIBLE. The Bible is all about God first , then the MAN. Then the woman , made for the man and because of HIS needs. Sorry to burst your gynocentric bubble. All that is dominated by the feminine is against God's vision . It is a den of corruption in every area of life.

I guess I didn’t realize women could be deacons.

@mnbv804

3 жыл бұрын

Hard “no” on that one: “Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭ESV‬‬

@UnHoly_Shit

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's one thing that turned me off about this video.

@alexandermcmullan5865

3 жыл бұрын

The main biblical standing for women deacons is that Paul publicly acknowledged Phoebe in Romans 16 v1-2 as a deacon of the Church in Cenchreae. God bless

@comeseetheviolenceinherent579

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandermcmullan5865 it is difficult because in 1Timothy 3:12 it does say that a deacon must be the husband of only one wife. But on the other hand both verses use the same Greek word ‘diakonos’ meaning servant. I won’t pretend to be a biblical scholar or theologian. I only know how to look up verses in my Blue Letter Bible

@mnbv804

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandermcmullan5865 You need to use a word for word translation of the Bible to understand it's meaning. I implore you to please stop using the NIV, NLT, etc for serious study- it will just mislead you.

Jesus was Woke. He was a Feminist. Mary sat at His feet and learned from him. Women were not supposed to sit at Rabbis feet and learn.

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

"Biblical wokeness" and American wokeness are 2 totally different things....

I am a Christian feminist and have also supported pro-life legislation in several states through my radio program and on the federal level. I believe the Bible is inerrant and that it states marriage is between a man and a woman. The early feminists were Christians, and the dictionary definition is simply that men and women are of equal worth and should be entitled to the same rights. I would also consider myself a fundamentalist and do not believe complementarianism is in any way biblical but is a pushback against the secular feminist movement. There are at least 19 errors in the doctrine that masquerades as biblical but is not. Women led in the Bible, and complementarians would certainly have taken issue with Mary and the mother of Samson receiving their callings directly and firstly and then being supported by their husbands to that end. Ruth did not wait for Boaz but initiated their relationship, proposing to him, an act that would be considered outlandish and rebellious by complementarians. It is important to rightly divide the word of scripture, and we have taken female submission to extents never intended by the scripture. I fear this movement is causing the women to bury their talents into the ground out of fear due to some erroneous belief that leadership is for men and men alone. Not only that, but it will drive people from the church and will cause those on the outside to not want in whatsoever. Biblical Christianity is attractive to people, but this distortion and overemphasis on the male/female relationship is not. It was meant to be a symbolic representation of Christ and His church and not to infantilalize women and squander their giftings, especially as the role of prophetess is often held in derision or as a sign of disobedience to the scriptures. Psalm 68 says the women who publish the word of the Lord are a mighty army and that His sons and daughters would prophesy. It is not for us to shut the mouths of those who proclaim the word of peace.

@ironcross1252

4 жыл бұрын

Rosa Hopkins sounds like you see through the lens of your own understanding, and your feminism rather than the truth of the scriptures. Thats how it comes across, is this your intention?

@MPoweredChristianMinistries

4 жыл бұрын

Though Mary received her calling separately, she would’ve been stoned for adultery or abandoned had not Joseph received revelation and then accepted his role as leader of their marriage. Though Ruth made the first pass at Boaz it was then upon him to protect and defend her and support her and her mother in law financially. And though women may be prophetesses or just prophesy they are not called to be elders/pastors in headship over men. Their calling, talents, gifting, or roles in leadership are not hindered by complementarianism. They are harnessed for the greatest good-according to God’s design.

@jmoss55ish

4 жыл бұрын

MPowered Christian Ministries Well said!

@nathanaelmccooeye3204

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rosa, thoughtful and interesting response. :) I personally don't know the difference between egalitarianism and complementarianism, anyway, haha. I think that men and women have distinct roles, and men have leadership, but leadership encourages those under them to become leaders, as well, so women are by no means limited from leadership (as is shown in Acts). I also see roles as the expectations of what one *should* do, but not always a limit to what one *should not* do. This also solves the "generalization issue," where some women are content with initiating a relationship like you pointed out (I think it was fine of Ruth to do that. But, Boaz, come on :P). Anyway, I'm sure we would agree on our views on this if we were to discuss it in person. I'm just writing to say that I'm glad you're using your brain, and keep being the woman full of destiny that God designed you to be! Best,

@sophiapark8859

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve had confusion about Old Testament women in the past. What I understand is that some of those roles came out of a lack of male headship and not out of God’s original design for us. Just like Abraham allowed the Israelites to divorce, but Jesus said “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts” while condemning divorce. In the same way, the Old Testament had some examples of women taking up authority over men like Deborah during a time of male failing, but in the New Testament Jesus and the apostles affirm God’s original design. I think you are right that some people take it too far. We need to know that this authority matters first and foremost in the Christian church and household, not in the public sphere when headship is almost never conveyed. Also, knowing which roles really do convey authority. Like you said, women can be prophets and are encouraged to prophesy and speak in tongues publicly by Paul. Also, women are encouraged to teach, especially to other women and children. Being a prophet does not undermine the authority of men in the church. We even know that women were deacons in the Bible. What is more up for debate is whether women taking up the role of pastor or elder undermines male authority. If we do conclude after reading the scriptures that women taking up these roles does usurp male authority, then I am willing to acknowledge that God has a reason for this.

The best minister I ever knew was a Unitarian lesbian.

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

That's not a minister

@lepp6598

5 ай бұрын

@@DrDoerk she most definitely was

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

@@lepp6598 she? Wow... it gets worse.

@rgnold2517

5 ай бұрын

​@@DrDoerkare you not all there? The term "lesbian" was used from the start.

President and vice president , not president and tea lady

Why do you care for headship, authority, .....Christianity is about serving no leading, washing each others feet and love each other. Jesus Christianity disappeared and replaced by Paul's teachings

@ttj_

3 жыл бұрын

amen!!! preach it!!!

@123ajayi

3 жыл бұрын

But you cant throw aways Paul's teaching. And you are right the headship we are talking about is the headship that Christ demonstrated. Matt explained this, he said this head ship isn't some kind of dominating oh i am going to rule over you like a king in this world does but the way Jesus modeled it. Jesus was head over his disciples, yet he still served them. Jesus had authority over his disciples but he still served. this is what we are talking about. not the worldly example of headship. Jesus and Pauls teaching are not contradictory. Paul said husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave his life up for her.

@ttj_

3 жыл бұрын

@@123ajayi preach it! so so true

@framboise595

3 жыл бұрын

@@123ajayi Pure nonsense. A head that does not rule is no head anymore but a controlled head. A doormat like most western men these days . A disgrace in God's eyes . He shall RULE OVER you Gen 3:16 The woman was made for the man , for his needs and as such the man is the master , the king of his castle.

@branver1172

2 жыл бұрын

“He shall rule over you” is a curse, not a command. What are men commanded to do? To lay down their life for their wife as Christ laid down his life for the church. Will this make him a doormat? The wife is commanded to submit to him. They are both to put the other first.

Men and women are different, men pass sin nature on to their offspring, if you have a natural father you are born under sin AND it's wages. Women cannot pass the sin nature, otherwise JESUS would have been born with sin already in HIS account. YEP, MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT.

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

Great eisegesis

@Cuvoastoh6321

5 ай бұрын

@@DrDoerkit is something you will never hear preached from the pulpit.

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

@@Cuvoastoh6321 thank goodness. That much eisegesis should never be allowed

@Cuvoastoh6321

5 ай бұрын

@@DrDoerk truth hurts, I get it!

@DrDoerk

5 ай бұрын

@@Cuvoastoh6321 eisesgetial study isn't truth, but okay....

Ok this talk leans more to egalitarianism. Nothing was said to empower men to be the priest and Lord of your household. Which is full on liberal. The only way he mentioned men as abusive helpless persons that need help. There is a better balance this pastor is actually tilting to the more feminist side.

@1Quasie

5 жыл бұрын

Good for him!

@jennifersteinriede2963

5 жыл бұрын

The priest is Christ

@MPoweredChristianMinistries

4 жыл бұрын

Prefacing by saying that we’re a Complementarian ministry. But men are not to be the PRIEST or LORD of their households. We are to be the HEAD. The leadership. The one who makes the final decision after fully listening, acknowledging and appreciating the advice and insight of the wife. There is only One in the role of priest and that is Christ. There is also only One in the role of Lord and that is Christ. (Ephesians 4:4-5) Both men and women are of the holy priesthood of all believers. (1 Peter 2:5-9) We are equal when it comes to spiritual status before God. (Matthew 23:8-12) Complementarianism is about our unique design as male or female, and our unique roles as men and women in the home and in the church. Men are not lords over women. The greatest among us will be the greatest servants. (Luke 22:24-27) Blessings.

@boopsnootandboogie

3 жыл бұрын

Priest and Lord of your household is the man? Might want to re-examine your thinking.

@framboise595

3 жыл бұрын

@ J.M .II The misandric agenda is going full swim. God is not deaf . Those feminist "preachers" who pretend to serve him while they actually do the game of the devil will have much to answer.

Matt matt…. Relax … breathe brother….. calm down and read the Bible …. Your opinions doesn’t matter

God gave man a consolation in the woman because man was alone and he had no female counterpart in order to reproduce . God gave man a woman because of SEX , not because of what he says. A man does not need a woman specifically to follow the Lord. Men were always spiritually mentored by other men. The woman has a specific mission and the mission is sexual because if God had made Adam like an angel , no woman would have been needed for him. Anyway , the BIBLE itself calls sex the "natural use of the woman" Romans 1 Trying to make marriage some spiritual thing is totally off scriptures. Men definitely do not need women to be spiritual !!! Marriage is not spiritual . It is carnal and built on a one flesh relationship . We add spirituality to it since we are Christians of course but the very mission of marriage is not spiritual. Confusing the flesh and the spirit as done today is awful. I even heard the teacher of my own church say that we should be "one flesh in spirit" . This makes absolutely no sense but that is how we are taught today and that is a disaster and THE recipe for marital failure.

@Truthspeaker7777

3 жыл бұрын

Amen !

@KatherineJetton

3 жыл бұрын

You are so wrong.. women were not designed to be man’s sex slave. Sex is designed to be the glue that cements together a foundation of emotional and spiritual compatibility. Read Proverbs 31 that’s the ideal woman.

@framboise595

3 жыл бұрын

@@KatherineJetton Sex was designed by the Lord to be the cement ( you're right , that's absolutely true) of marriage. That's it. Proverbs 31 is the ideal because she brings good and not evil to her husband because God created the woman for man's sake , not the opposite. As regards sexual "slavery" , it is clear that since the woman was for the man , sex is also for man first , for his delight ( as Proverbs 5:18 shows ) . But since a woman needs sex too , the man has the duty to render her her sexual due (1 Co 7:5) and not reject her in this area. I would say that duty sex is some kind of reciprocal sexual slavery in fact.

@esther_eren6291

3 жыл бұрын

What!?? What you are saying is so against the BIBLE, GOD values women as much as men and they can get as much done! She is not a sex slave! Please read your BIBLE!

@framboise595

3 жыл бұрын

@@esther_eren6291 Luciferians just follow other Luciferians. All the language around sex that is being used by the so called church today is of Lucifer. God made the woman for the man , to satisfy his needs first. But Satan hates men so much that he has turned everything upisde down.

Philanderer