September 11, 2001 ATC, FAA & NORAD Audio (Radio Traffic) 9/11/01

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Audio From The US National Arrives

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  • @apexpredator7536
    @apexpredator75362 ай бұрын

    I was 6 years old when this happened. I remember every single second of that day. Now, over 20 years later im an air traffic controller and hope to god i never have to deal with a situation like anywhere remotely close to this

  • @peteysquirrelchaser9028
    @peteysquirrelchaser902820 күн бұрын

    "It's a hijack? Cool!" Imagine the lifetime of regret for having said this not knowing what shit was about to transpire. Saying it on tape for everyone to hear for history.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    14 күн бұрын

    I refuse to judge anyone for that kind of remark. This kinda thing would have been unprecedented, hijackings back then seldom resulted in this kind of outcome and regardless, sarcasm is a thing.

  • @simonfea2

    @simonfea2

    11 күн бұрын

    They initially thought it was a training exercise and not "real world." That's why, at the beginning, people are saying "real world."

  • @Syren2023

    @Syren2023

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@fuzzydunlop7928Just because they didn't know the full magnitude of the situation does not excuse the monumental stupidity of saying a bunch of people in peril is cool.

  • @jordach545

    @jordach545

    10 күн бұрын

    @@Syren2023 sometimes people use "cool" instead of "acknowledged".

  • @mamavswild

    @mamavswild

    8 күн бұрын

    @@jordach545. When they do use ‘cool’ as ‘I acknowledge’ it is because they are usually letting their voices trail off a bit when pronouncing it; an emphatic, high pitched ‘Cool!!🎉’ is NOT the same thing.

  • @sharon22669
    @sharon2266910 ай бұрын

    In 2023 these recordings bring tears to my eyes. I watch/listen to these around 9/11. I remember every minute of that day. I only learned a few years ago about the boat rescue. I recommend it if anyone hasn't heard it yet.

  • @jamesross1799

    @jamesross1799

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly the same here I remember that horrible day in detail that I honestly don't think I can recall any other day in. It was truly horrific.

  • @AureliusR

    @AureliusR

    2 ай бұрын

    What boat rescue?

  • @lisacomstock858

    @lisacomstock858

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@julieann4616it is 9/11 boatlift. As people fled the city they went to the water and ever boat help take people of the island.

  • @bwillwin1505

    @bwillwin1505

    Ай бұрын

    @@AureliusRYes, private boats and US coastguards evacuated 500,000 people with boats from Manhattan that day. All roads and bridges were closed. The subway as well. Look it up, the video is sobering

  • @feminem7six
    @feminem7six10 ай бұрын

    The recording from United 93 is horrific and unfathomable. Thank God for those people that saved countless lives, and be with those that gave their own to do it.

  • @MarieHook-zo1ms

    @MarieHook-zo1ms

    10 ай бұрын

    Always

  • @10secs2lovetffl

    @10secs2lovetffl

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm a post-9/11 U.S. Navy Veteran. The story of Flight: 93 "Let's Roll" is BULL SHIT!!! That plane was shot out of the sky over Shanksville, PA. And no PLANE hit the Pentogon!!!

  • @robertdavis942

    @robertdavis942

    9 ай бұрын

    @@10secs2lovetffl I can say two things I didn’t see a plane go into the pentagon. They can say whatever they want, but there’s no video proof that it happened. So I won’t speculate what happened, I will just say what I know can’t be proven. I refuse to believe there isn’t any video evidence anywhere. as for Shanksville? No evidence there either. So I’m not gonna go on a conspiracy tirade. I’m going to tell you what I know. I know that there is no proof that a plane went into the Pentagon or what we were told happen in Shanksville happened. I’m not gonna talk about, corporations, or special interests, or organized demolition. I’m saying that there’s no conclusive evidence that a plane went anywhere in those situations.

  • @BillyTibb

    @BillyTibb

    9 ай бұрын

    @@10secs2lovetfflbelievable

  • @ChangingTides777

    @ChangingTides777

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@robertdavis942tell that to the families of all the passengers. How can you be so devoid of common sense?

  • @610610billy610610
    @610610billy610610Ай бұрын

    Flight 175 telling atc they heard a suspicious transmission is rough. They heard it first hand, but didn't know they would be the next victims.

  • @RindaJane

    @RindaJane

    15 күн бұрын

    That's exactly what I was thinking. 175 was helping out ATC and within minutes they were going to be hijacked and their fate was sealed. Nearly 23 years later I begin to cry thinking of that day so many innocent lives were lost. The children we saw from a daycare being evacuated in NYC are now in their mid 20s. R.I.P. to all who died that day 🕊

  • @jamesross1799
    @jamesross17992 ай бұрын

    American 11 Boston? American 11 Boston???,? I shudder to think what absolute horror was happening on board at that moment.

  • @IIDeCkArDII1

    @IIDeCkArDII1

    9 күн бұрын

    ...aye I thought the same...and those first words the controller transmitted to the plane were telling. His voice changed with every call :- Normal transmission - Inquisitive transmission - Concerned transmission - Calls Boss transmission.

  • @SilentPartner79
    @SilentPartner79Ай бұрын

    14:30 The woman is now talking about the flight attendant's last words. The plane has hit.

  • @anonymous2513456
    @anonymous2513456Ай бұрын

    it must have been bloody awful trying to manage this situation with such limited data, coordination and preparedness and they didn't know the full scale of the horrors unfolding in Manhattan either. You have to hand it to them, they all did the best they could but nothing they could have done would have prevented the atrocities on that day.

  • @marimatsumoto372

    @marimatsumoto372

    Ай бұрын

    Agree! We should be thankful that these people are working so hard. It could have been a lot worse.

  • @BillyTibb
    @BillyTibb9 ай бұрын

    “A new type of war that’s what it is”

  • @JulieAnderocci
    @JulieAnderocci15 күн бұрын

    Souls on board😢😢😢😢😢

  • @KeithAStultz
    @KeithAStultz14 сағат бұрын

    It is deplorable that there are commercials interspersed with any documentary about September 11th 2001

  • @MrChassmith
    @MrChassmith19 күн бұрын

    These recordings of the NORAD activity are so ironic. They're scrambling aircraft 15 minutes AFTER American 11 hit the WTC.

  • @SimDeck
    @SimDeck2 ай бұрын

    What an absaloute shitshow the world has been since this day.

  • @edithroberts8959
    @edithroberts89595 ай бұрын

    These transmissions clearly show ATC was on point. They were the only ones that were. It was like pulling teeth to get the military to understand and do anything. Doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling about our government. And I can almost guarantee the response would be even more lacking this day and age. If this country is attacked again, we are all screwed.

  • @bradleyboyer9979

    @bradleyboyer9979

    3 ай бұрын

    That's why people shouldn't look to the government for "protection." We will get no protection, and we will lose our freedom in the process. There was no way anything could have been done in this situation, though. The only preventative measure would have been for the intelligence agencies to find out about it and prevent it. And they failed. Government is never the answer.

  • @dlg720

    @dlg720

    Ай бұрын

    There have been a lot of changes that have been put in place to make sure there is quicker and clearer communication in the event something like this happens again.

  • @salamisumo2
    @salamisumo24 ай бұрын

    27:30 is such a breakdown in communication, it’s frustrating So much of the conversation they have is too

  • @danielrn133

    @danielrn133

    Ай бұрын

    Any dynamic situation there are communication problems. This was unprecedented and involved many layers. It is not like a bomb that goes off. This involves the entire US aviation sector. Involves the military. Involves two cities. Hijackings were not assumed to be flying into buildings. By the afternoon of Sept 11 the entire US aviation was shut down. I look at that day as amusing how quickly the US responded to was was unthinkable a few hours earlier.

  • @johns1625

    @johns1625

    16 күн бұрын

    They thought flight 11 was still in the air after the buildings collapsed. Information moved so slow then. Nobody expected it. It's not even a complicated plan at all by todays security standard

  • @TrulyMadlyShallowly

    @TrulyMadlyShallowly

    14 күн бұрын

    @@johns1625 Exceptional information always moves a lot slower. It takes time to comprehend anything that is so out of the ordinary as this was. Even with today's communication options, action would not have been much quicker. Moreover, anyone in aviation is trained to stay calm and collected, and be precise in what they say and don't say. That is crucial. Also, you are not hearing everything. This is only a few channels.

  • @TrulyMadlyShallowly

    @TrulyMadlyShallowly

    14 күн бұрын

    Don't forget that what you hear is not chronological. There are various calls after each other that in real time were taking place at the same time. It can appear slow - it may not have been.

  • @jimkeappock7558
    @jimkeappock75583 ай бұрын

    While they were talking,the plane had already struck the WTC.

  • @JDL0427
    @JDL042710 ай бұрын

    The professionalism is heartbreaking. Still.

  • @nathan9903
    @nathan99033 ай бұрын

    "we are all going to die here" jesus thats a mans last words

  • @devintariel3769

    @devintariel3769

    2 ай бұрын

    One of the pilots repeatedly was messing with knobs the whole flight

  • @Leigh3420

    @Leigh3420

    2 ай бұрын

    @@devintariel3769just a question are you speaking of the Hijacker’s or the actual pilots still alive?

  • @devintariel3769

    @devintariel3769

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Leigh3420 one of the pilots was moaning on the CVR, a wife said it was her husband. Not sure which pilot. The CVR states that Ziad Jarrah was asking someone not to mess with something.

  • @chantelcuddemi7646
    @chantelcuddemi76469 ай бұрын

    My goodness, this is scary!

  • @jimkeappock7558
    @jimkeappock75583 ай бұрын

    The more you read, you will see that there is so much confusion and wasted time,trying to figure out what’s going on. At 1615 they are still questioning the situation!!

  • @richardwait1206

    @richardwait1206

    Ай бұрын

    Of course they were never been dealt with by anyone no blame gaming please.

  • @johns1625

    @johns1625

    16 күн бұрын

    They didn't know the first plane was flight 11 until after the whole thing ended. They were chasing down flight 93 thinking it was 11. By todays standards we were wide open to attack back then.

  • @johannesbols57
    @johannesbols5710 ай бұрын

    I visited Washington, D.C. July 1985. I watched aircraft on final to DCA. I told my father a pilot just had to turn a sharp left and fly into the White House. And there was nothing that could be done because it was so close to the White House.

  • @marythecoolcat

    @marythecoolcat

    2 ай бұрын

    I used to stay at the Washington Hotel in the ‘80/90s. On the rooftop restaurant as we watched airplanes fly into National Airport, we would say the same thing!

  • @ajcook7777
    @ajcook777710 ай бұрын

    Crazy to hear they were going to send jets from Selfridge Air National Guard Base in Michigan (after they dropped their bombs at the bombing range). You would think they had jets a lot closer than Michigan that could scramble and get to the scene quicker

  • @keithb372

    @keithb372

    6 ай бұрын

    The Cold War is over. Their wasn't a need.

  • @Molon_Labe1776

    @Molon_Labe1776

    4 ай бұрын

    That's weird. I don't know about fighter from Michigan, but I do know that Cheney scheduled NORAS war games on the same day and the day after the pentagon announced over $2 trillion unaccounted for.

  • @Molon_Labe1776

    @Molon_Labe1776

    4 ай бұрын

    *NORAD

  • @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    2 ай бұрын

    I know…. not even at Andrews??

  • @MarthaDwyer

    @MarthaDwyer

    20 күн бұрын

    Two Air National Guard pilots in Virginia were scrambled after the plane hit the Pentagon. Their F15s were unarmed and according to an interview with the pilots later said that it was understood that they would ram the plane that eventually crashed in Pennsylvania if it headed to Washington, DC.

  • @richardcochrane1966
    @richardcochrane19662 ай бұрын

    12:13 The guy who muted the phone number being quoted did a bad job - you can make out the number in its entirety

  • @julieann4616

    @julieann4616

    Ай бұрын

    And??

  • @beckylynn209

    @beckylynn209

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@julieann4616 Ya, really!! 🤨

  • @douglasmonroe7417
    @douglasmonroe7417 Жыл бұрын

    I still haven't found any actual radar readings happening in real time while ATC recordings from the terrorist attack. Is there a video on that? If not, I might have to ask you if you'll do it.

  • @douglasmonroe7417

    @douglasmonroe7417

    5 ай бұрын

    @@IVtitude Ok. Thx

  • @salamisumo2

    @salamisumo2

    5 ай бұрын

    @@IVtitude just saw one a few days ago, gone today :/

  • @mikebyrd8278

    @mikebyrd8278

    4 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmR7q49ql83HZbQ.htmlsi=lPEG0ccY8MKIbkjd

  • @user-rr8si6mf5g

    @user-rr8si6mf5g

    28 күн бұрын

    @@douglasmonroe7417let out oool

  • @beckylynn209

    @beckylynn209

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@douglasmonroe7417 There use to be hundreds of videos on u-tube on 911 but, Google and u-tube took them down.. 🤨

  • @StrikeEagleDirtCar
    @StrikeEagleDirtCar2 ай бұрын

    ATC has the highest suicide rate in the Air Force, and i unfortunately get it...😢

  • @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah I’ve heard it’s one of the most stressful jobs… the thought of being that mentally alert constantly, with so little room for error, and such severe consequences in the event of error is exhausting to think about - and I used to be a trauma ICU nurse!

  • @KeithAStultz
    @KeithAStultz12 күн бұрын

    It is an incredibly poor taste to run effing ads in any video devoted to September 11th

  • @toniwertman4818
    @toniwertman481814 күн бұрын

    But also. Delay of any action. Isn’t it ??

  • @josephbahri1403
    @josephbahri14036 ай бұрын

    Never understood why there was such surprise expressed when they found out from Betty that the hijackers were in the cockpit. Where else wouid you expect hijackers to be but in the cockpit?? Never understood the surprise in the voices.

  • @cmdr_ultraviol3nt

    @cmdr_ultraviol3nt

    5 ай бұрын

    Hijacking could be anything from a DB Cooper scenario to a cockpit hijack like this

  • @ChangingTides777

    @ChangingTides777

    4 ай бұрын

    Hijacking was not synonomous with killing pilots and taking over planes.

  • @salamisumo2

    @salamisumo2

    4 ай бұрын

    The procedure at the time was you do what the hijackers say & then they make their demands to collect a ransom. The idea they would crash them into buildings was unfathomable at the time

  • @MickeyMousePark

    @MickeyMousePark

    2 ай бұрын

    @@salamisumo2 exactly in the 1970s there was a rash of hijackings... usually force the pilots to fly somewhere like Cuba land then hold plane and passengers as hostages for ransom..

  • @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    @LlamaLlamaMamaJama

    2 ай бұрын

    Prior hijackings didn’t involve hijackers killing the pilots and flying the planes… they were “I have a bomb, meet my demands” type scenarios

  • @marknerysoo8919
    @marknerysoo891914 күн бұрын

    There's been a lot of different Audio Traffic on the American side

  • @Djekkie-gj7jz
    @Djekkie-gj7jz23 күн бұрын

    What a terrible Babylonian confusion of tongues. Although everyone is doing their best, it is clear that no one knows what is actually going on. People in front of the TV were a lot better informed. It is clear that the procedures failed. Hopefully the Americans have this in much better order now.

  • @elmerslick8700

    @elmerslick8700

    12 күн бұрын

    The confusion of 9/11 led the military to install tv monitors in their communication rooms. People watching from their living rooms had better real-time info than any colonel.

  • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
    @user-nx6qr1mt6f2 ай бұрын

    “Scramble jets! Scramble! Scramble!” And do what, make mean faces out the window at hijackers flying?

  • @intosilence1773
    @intosilence177321 күн бұрын

    00:08:15 00:15:45 00:37:45 00:48:50 1:24:23 1:25:44 1:27:30 1:28:58 1:36:14 1:38:05

  • @nicolekolsky9576

    @nicolekolsky9576

    15 күн бұрын

    ?

  • @josephbahri1403
    @josephbahri14036 ай бұрын

    Never understood why when the ATController trying to talk to AA11 reported the none response to his supervisor, that the supervisor replied "that's fine". The "supervisor" obviously realized that AA11 was turning right (not left, like the ATController initially said) but didn't seem to understand that the real problem was that AA11 was not responding. He said "that's fine". Never understood why.

  • @salamisumo2

    @salamisumo2

    4 ай бұрын

    Brain mighta been on autopilot

  • @AureliusR

    @AureliusR

    2 ай бұрын

    Loss of comms is not totally uncommon, and not an emergency. Usually if this happens you squawk 7600 (nordo) and then follow an established procedure.

  • @evosolutionsllc.910
    @evosolutionsllc.910 Жыл бұрын

    343

  • @volstron

    @volstron

    Ай бұрын

    3:43 for the time stamp crowd

  • @JulieAnderocci
    @JulieAnderocci15 күн бұрын

    Unprepared😮😢😢😢😢

  • @jeanhanner9407
    @jeanhanner940715 күн бұрын

    Delta 1989... if they only knew they were almost blown out of the sky.

  • @davidmichael3189
    @davidmichael3189Ай бұрын

    "Get somebody who can scramble F15's" 40 Mins Later: "Get me someone who can authorise Military Aircraft". Utterly Disgraceful. "We'll shut down the Airspace." - After both Towers were hit. Bit Late.

  • @nolanbroderick1234

    @nolanbroderick1234

    Ай бұрын

    They didn’t know how many more planes could be hijacked. There were at least three aircraft who weren’t responding to radio calls after the initial attacks who were going to be treated as threats. Point is they had to shutdown air traffic nationwide.

  • @anonymous2513456

    @anonymous2513456

    Ай бұрын

    there was no time to do anything about it anyway, even if the qra fighters had got in the air right away they had no orders to shoot down civilian aircraft until it was too late. Those orders had to come from DPTOUS and POTUS himself.

  • @davidmichael3189

    @davidmichael3189

    Ай бұрын

    @@anonymous2513456 There was plenty of time to do something - from the instant Betty Ong called early on.

  • @EKL-qu7ih

    @EKL-qu7ih

    Ай бұрын

    Firstly, scrambling aircraft isn't the same as authorizing military aircraft - they likely mean the authorization to shoot aircraft down as opposed to initiating the scramble, which is the easy part. They would have expected the aircraft to land at an airport, by the time it eould be over an urban area, the decision to shoot down becomes even more difficult because of the risk of casualties on the ground, and by the time the jet was approaching the tower it would be too late. Near impossible to stop the first aircraft. Secondly, multiple hijackings was COMPLETELY unprecedented, by the time the second aircraft was near the towers it would also likely he too late. Thirdly, pilots send out a code if they are hijacked - UNLESS they are incapacitated too rapidly to do it, reducing the time available to ATC to resolve the issue, only lack of communication/change in flight direction would indicate a problem. Fourth, ATC did issue direction to ground all aircraft quickly - of course it takes time to actually land those aircraft. Their communication could have been better by being more concise, the stewardess Betty should never had had to go through to Reservations to get hold of someone, they should have scrambled immediately etc. Yes it could be improved but it was absolutely not disgraceful. You're applying hindsight and forgetting how small the time to respond was, and even if they had time, they were in a near impossible situation.

  • @GrayHat0621
    @GrayHat0621Ай бұрын

    Just listening to the mass confusion shows how easily this will happen again. In fact it has already in ALASKA and probably in Atlanta or some other over trafficked airport

  • @GrayHat0621
    @GrayHat0621Ай бұрын

    Also why did the new report a building fell before it actually did. It’s literally standing while the women is report it has fallen.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    14 күн бұрын

    Likely confusion regarding NYPD comms as they're relaying reports from those trapped that there was a partial collapse (likely more than one) above the impact floors. Generally, the buildings collapsed internally before they collapsed totally. From the moment of each impact, the buildings were falling apart, doorways warped, pipes bursting, walls cracking. Fireballs were sucked down the elevator shafts by plunging cars, resulting in explosions and smaller fires in the lobby, basement levels, and skylobby. Additionally, jet fuel traveled down airducting leading to explosions in bathrooms and smaller fires all throughout the buildings. My point is that it was very chaotic, more-so than most realize as the damage was not isolated to the impact zones. There were multiple partial collapses throughout both buildings, and the NYPD were usually the first to learn this via 911 calls. So somebody hears something about a partial collapse, hear's the word "collapse" and it's a game of telephone from there.

  • @petehewitt2710
    @petehewitt27106 ай бұрын

    so atc had it but the airforce didn't.......

  • @EKL-qu7ih

    @EKL-qu7ih

    Ай бұрын

    Had what?

  • @jenniferwills3095
    @jenniferwills309521 күн бұрын

    Ateallthat horror with American. Then they they can't get a hold of united 175. I cannot imagine

  • @JulieAnderocci
    @JulieAnderocci15 күн бұрын

    Florida andarizona

  • @greggoog7559
    @greggoog7559Ай бұрын

    "Can you conference the flight attendant in?" --"I have no idea how to do that" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @julianpuentejr.8319
    @julianpuentejr.831918 күн бұрын

    Every time I watch the videos or recordings same anger . Most powerful country in the world but got taken by a bunch of goat herders. What a joke.

  • @julianpuentejr.8319
    @julianpuentejr.831918 күн бұрын

    Shame how our government allowed this to happen.

  • @MtnManLucas
    @MtnManLucas19 күн бұрын

    Weird that USAF STRATCOM had a live Nuke Alert drill that morning. Doomsday planes, B-52s etc … coincidence?

  • @GrayHat0621
    @GrayHat0621Ай бұрын

    This is why we had so many failures by the FAA. GOD THIS MAKES ME MAD.

  • @BrownEyePinch
    @BrownEyePinchАй бұрын

    Odummy Bin Poopin

  • @josephbahri1403
    @josephbahri14038 ай бұрын

    Why did the Gonzales woman say the "everybody's been stabbed" when Betty Ong actually indentified the three (3) flight attendants that were stabbed......why say EVERYBODYs been stabbed? And if they cannot connect to the pilots in the cockpit.. who were probably also stabbed or dead.....how could the male voice at air traffic control "ASSUME THEY ARE DECLARING AN EMERGENCY"?? Absurd. And how couid the female voice ask if ATC are in contact with the cockpit inspite of all that was said? Again absurd. And they kept saying POSSIBLE high jacking, when it was already confirmed......and obvious. And then such surprise to to find that the hijackers are in the cockpit. Again absurd.

  • @whoatherejohnny

    @whoatherejohnny

    7 ай бұрын

    Hey jackass, it was an EMERGENCY. I'm in awe of the calm these professionals maintained amid complete chaos.

  • @kananimiranda3376

    @kananimiranda3376

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes all true… but that day was unusual and unexpected and these controllers did the best they could to get into the right mindset. It really was an unbelievable surreal day. None of us saw this coming if you were an adult living in the US at that time. We are west coast and my roommate knocked on my door to get me up to see that the first tower was burning. They kept saying it was a commuter plane, but that hole was too big. So for about 15 minutes we thought as regular americans that it was an accident. And then we saw another plane head in on tv and we knew something weird was up then. Then there was finally confirmation. Also looking at the first plane crash we had no idea the tower would go down. That was unbelievable too. I think these people did the best they could with not having a hijacking in 30ish years. Eventually they got into the right mindset and airports and the faa shut it all down after that second hit. Unfortunately 77 and 93 were already up in the air by then.

  • @Wizardofgosz

    @Wizardofgosz

    2 ай бұрын

    so how is your ATC school coming? Did the FAA sign everyone up for your expertise?

  • @EKL-qu7ih

    @EKL-qu7ih

    Ай бұрын

    ATC would ordinarily have received a squawk 7500 to indicate an hijacking unless the crew were overcome too quickly to do it. In hijackings up to that date demands would be being made air to ground from the cockpit. So not absurd at all. I expect they knew the hijackers would be able to enter the cockpit but in the past usually they force the crew to land instead of killing them, the inference here of IN the cockpit made it clear they were behind the controls, far more dangerous than a hijacking where at least the crew is still flying the plane. Please be aware of your lack of air mindedness when assessing an aviation situation.

  • @josephbahri1403

    @josephbahri1403

    Ай бұрын

    ​And you are such an expert?. Slim line between airminded and airheaded. My comment stand.

  • @RhetroRP
    @RhetroRP15 күн бұрын

    I’d like to know how they learned how to use the FMS. They claimed that the terrorists took flying lessons. That’s dandy, but taking lessons in a Cessna 172 with either no Nav Computer or a Garmen,, and flying a Commercial Airliner with a FMS is Completely different. They would’ve had to gain control of the plane, then know how to cancel the flight plan on the FMS, then enter a new flight plan, assuming they used an airport identification near their target,, to get the path to the target area. There are Gen Av pilots out there that have been flying for years, and don’t know how to use a FMS. And I don’t see how someone that’s not from this country and has never flown, knows which heading to fly, to get to a certain point. It could happen if they acted from the ground, but their position at the time of taking control of the plane, would be random, so the heading wouldn’t be correct.

  • @ohheyitskevinc

    @ohheyitskevinc

    12 күн бұрын

    Have a read of the 9/11 commission report. Search the .pdf for “737”, “charts”, “gps” and “autopilot”. If someone wants to override the FMC and hand fly, press the big “disengage” button below the “A/P engage” buttons. That said - the FMC isn’t rocket science. Press LEGS, select the waypoints down the right, press DEL for each to clear them, add a new waypoint near NY from the charts they had with them and press execute. They obviously found their way. We also found our way to the moon in 1969 and the Earth is in fact round.

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