The Senzo Meyiwa murder trial continues at the High Court in Pretoria. For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.
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@ntombekhayaqolo9896Ай бұрын
Zandile Mshololo makes me to be proud of being a black woman......she stands her ground....and she is not intimidated by this bully judge who keeps on giggling ...smiling....and ....nxxx ...and interjects...and...makes jokes... when he feels like
@bonganekhupe2147Ай бұрын
Someone's voice is now shaking on the witness box, what's happening 🙄🙄
@user-ul1ez2kb4uАй бұрын
Confronted with such a witness,I think the counsel should have asked the witness to state which part of the investigation did she take part in!I believe as an investigator you should be privy to every information relating to a case u are investigating. She can't be saying she does not have any idea,whilst at the same time she identifies herself as part of the investigation.
@sindiswamabunda5627
Ай бұрын
She avoided the question even when it was posed that way. She kept on saying she has already testified in that regard...
@NomusaMthembu-vq1wk
Ай бұрын
Exactly
@juniormaila6712
Ай бұрын
She was Gininda tea girl
@khanyilekhanyile436Ай бұрын
Why she is in court or the witness if doesn't know anything?
@buyisiwemasondo2079
Ай бұрын
Ipopayi nje lento😂
@mfundotima3675Ай бұрын
Hai kushubile futhi siyaya emaphethelweni ayikho into efihlakala kude kuphele. Ayanyakaza mathambo ka Senzo ngku🤞 Ngenelela Bawo futhi uphephise , ubakhusele bonke abaphete elityala ngegama lika Jesu🙏
@HarryMokaleАй бұрын
the judge already concluded this case that all accused are guilty
@TheLan70
Ай бұрын
You are right because he has a lot of people to protect
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
I dont think so, he need to say why. His sentence has touch all the facts sourounding this case otherwise. the case can be appealed and his sentensing set aside.
@glendaserero9228
Ай бұрын
@@zwelimkhize3071In spite of your attempts to obfuscate, it is a fact that judge Ratha has prejudged the matter. The emperor is naked!
@siphonengu5436Ай бұрын
Ratha is lying about DNA results. The expert didn't say they are inconclusive he said they are excluded , iyabakhipha.
@beewest5704
Ай бұрын
The test show inconclusive. DNA test do not show positive & negative that is what the judge was trying to get to.
@thandoklaas4679
Ай бұрын
@beewest5704 that's not what the expert said ,it excluded all the accused,in order to get a positive match it had to match everything
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
@beewest5704 Negative means no and positive says yes. It might not be technical language, but in layman lingo, we understand what it means
@khayakhaya4282
Ай бұрын
Indeed he said excluding the five accused if needs to hear it just type expect giving dna results on Senzo it will come up
@heavycurrent101
Ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@AllyMashimbyeАй бұрын
What is the reason to call this witness she doesn't have knowledge about this case
@MlondiMАй бұрын
2:27:45 that moment of silence from this judge needs to be analysed, it's screaming "How are we gonna get out of this one?".
@juniormaila6712
Ай бұрын
😂 dts why he lie about DNA evidence
@heavycurrent101
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@mariamasetloa6272
Ай бұрын
Point 👉
@claudiamakhathini7515Ай бұрын
Pheykwakhe Adv Mshololo❤
@LilyCalla-mz2xbАй бұрын
I’ve never scene in any court where the judge is constantly or even visibly defensive towards the defense as if he has a side to choose. His school boy reactions affirming his excitement for Baloyi’s objections are not just unprofessional behavior but painful to watch. He looks like these primary school bully’s cheering on the side while the ring leader of the group harass the minors.
@chrisnanuseb2984Ай бұрын
this judge is something else somehow he become a representative of the witness
@gertrudemabunda4105Ай бұрын
Gininda was using the police for his scores
@siyabongamadlala7091Ай бұрын
The thing with lying is to cover a lie with a lie and you have to remember the first lie you told all the time
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍yes 💯
@user-ny9gl6fb4f
Ай бұрын
😂😂😅
@lindamkhwebane
Ай бұрын
Lies and more lies! That's why she does not know what to say because of lies. Lies they have short legs.. but also it's embarrassing to be SAPS high ranking a detective who does not know anything all she does it's to be sent as an errant girl.
@ThaboWise
Ай бұрын
U are correct on that part and the worse thing is that you can't keep on covering on the cracks😅😅
@kingphoka-uf5tk
Ай бұрын
undoubtedly that's the hardest part of all the state witnesses 😅
@LusindisoNolisiАй бұрын
The judge is asking about fairness..but I don't see that very fairness from him
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
What's wrong with fingers and teeth.... everything looks fake on him.... or it's old AGE
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
I see that Baloyi and Ratha are back to their old ways of teaming up against defense. With Mngomezulu they were caught in a whirlwind.
@khayakhaya4282Ай бұрын
I thought comply and complain later was for an army now you an investigator who knows nothing about the case that she has investigated ... does she knows who is Senzo or gininda must answer?
@luthandoncayiyane8472Ай бұрын
With all this circus, death sentence will never be an option in this country, with all this incompetence 😢😢😢, it shows how many people are in jail for crimes they didn't do,
@nephatncube2248Ай бұрын
NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING ..... WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATOR IS THIS ONE ???
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
She is right she being asked questions about the docket she never investigate. I will also say no comment.
@glendaserero9228
Ай бұрын
@@zwelimkhize3071She is right? Are you normalising incompetence and impunity, now? The country has gone to the dogs!
@collinsbanda8024Ай бұрын
Pls can we speed this case 🙏 am start loosing weight now 😫 because it's been ages about our legend senzo to get justice ⚖️
@lesegoraikane9593Ай бұрын
Our SAPS is very incompetent if we still have people like Mogane what was her role exactly? She Just said Ask Gininda
@MorolongWaMorakile
Ай бұрын
None whatsoever! I mean she should at least show interest to learn. You’re given a mandate or task but don’t take part in reviewing or analysing the information. 🙆🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
@lesegoraikane9593
Ай бұрын
@MorolongWaMorakile exactly she reminds of school when we used to do group work and there was that student that was always there but contributes nothing
@lesegokgotlhang6434
Ай бұрын
This witness is simply staying within her lane and that is fine. The defence lawyers are spending a lot of time cross examining the witness on the statements of other witnesses without linking that to her testmony and hence she must stay in her lane. She must stay away from entangling herself with other people's testmonies as much as possible.
@MxolisiMthembu6018
Ай бұрын
@@lesegokgotlhang6434But Lesego she is not just a witness but an Investigation Officer in this case.
@buyisiwemasondo2079
Ай бұрын
@@lesegokgotlhang6434she's supposed to know as she was part of the investigation.
@LusindisoNolisiАй бұрын
Our judge is so bold when it comes to the defence
@napoleonblack2398
Ай бұрын
Baloyi is the NPA Blue eyed boy surely. Its madness what he gets away with. And thua poor legal aid folkes are always rebuked
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@@napoleonblack2398 they must learn to stand up against this thugs 😈🤬🙊😡
@nombangokubheka2170
Ай бұрын
True
@mdaxmanne8952
Ай бұрын
So bold he even talks over them. But when it's The prosecution turn he is so calm and quiet
@JohansZukisaniАй бұрын
Why so many people passed away in this case 😢😢and Mokgola can only comment on Makaleni... That he passed on🤔🤔 nje ngo Mabhena
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
Yes so many killed 😭😭 we pray for Mngomezulu's safety and his family together with innocent suspects especially Ntanzi 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👿
@dlalabuja1
Ай бұрын
Pray for Makhubu or Buthelezi375 investigators🛐
@beewest5704
Ай бұрын
That is why it's not ideal that suspects are only brought to court so long after a murder. Just count how many ppl you know that have died since 2014.
@sctv8809
Ай бұрын
Gininda killed them because they going to disclose information arresting longwe
@SonOfTheSoil834
Ай бұрын
Is obvious that this murders accused here where trying to mask the case
@MrMsindo1Ай бұрын
Witness trembling, the voice says lots
@seanimulaudzi226Ай бұрын
Amen
@ntatedeciduaАй бұрын
An investigating officer which doesnt know anything about a case,everything is Gininda
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
You can say it again him and baloyi told her to say nothing so he can come back 👿👿👿👿
@mimidiwu330
20 күн бұрын
Looks like Gininda told his team officials to never know a thing and that he will answer for himself Banga worry🤷
@tatane3243Ай бұрын
Prosecutor Baloyi must billed for the costs of court sittings on other wasted days like this one.
@MorolongWaMorakile
Ай бұрын
Brigadier Gininda should have been called really. 🙄
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
@@MorolongWaMorakileBut he was there and he put all these defence to shame. Gininda is not an amateur..
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@@dannym7593 Shame is gininda paying you, he didn't answer what he was asked instead explained how he dies crooked things. Look at all the affidavits he's writing now for all his stupid witnesses. This WITNESSES couldn't answer after their affidavits LIES 😈🤬 Mngomezulu is just right for him they will call him as per today's lying witness mentioning him all the time. It's either she's throws him under the bus or he said she must not answer anything and leave it to him 🤬😈😡🙊
@nkosentshamthethwa1200Ай бұрын
So the investigating officer doesnt even know the contents of the docket 😂😂😂😂.
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
I don't think she is stupid. She is just movimg amd trending slowly with her evidence. Since she was. not part of the other docket as an investigator. The defence identified her as perhaps a weakest link, and they are mixing up evidence from the old docket which is not part of this trial and the docket she was part of. So they just want her to say her own personal opinion and they use that as a weapon to. fight Gininda when he came to testify as a tool to discredit his evidence. You will remember Sgt Mohale was also on the doc. They never did the same to him aski g him about docket 375. Baloyi has called her to testify about chain of evidence of taking blood from the 2 suspects. They saw that as an opportunity to go back to the evidemce that was longtime presented at court all this Tumelo and Zandi has already testify regarding this evidence. So its like closing their mistakes and things they omitted to asked. So they are using her to dismantle the team. They habe been struggling since yesterday until Mngomezulu looses his cool yesterday after she didn't cracked her. She then say you cocked the case. Their examination is based on the docket she never investigated. but this guy Ramsepule is kindly smart as opposed to Mngo. He don't make reckless statements that will put Ntanzi in a corner when he is under cross examination. Once you say a statement you never able to retract. It will be part of cross examination. Accuse one will have to explain what it cover up and it will be difficult to explain to the court.
@bonganekhupe2147
Ай бұрын
🤔🤔Hawu yazi, I am also surprised
@bongiwendlovu3293
Ай бұрын
Ayikho nje into ayaziyo lomama uyangdina maan , these pple must tell the truth.!!
@mikenyakudya3251Ай бұрын
Why does it appear the magistrate is always against Mr N'umalo's cross examination from the beginning
@happinesswattsАй бұрын
I am Namibian and lived in SA when this happened and still going on. Atleast this is better. Case. Than Joslin that disappeared in CPT about 70days ago. Life is just not fair. It's sad. One disappeared because of mom's negligence. One died in the presence of a lover. Reminding me of OJ case. And for her to walk around and pretending like she don't know what happened.
@user-fx2nk9cb8fАй бұрын
Ubaba ujaji Ratha uma iphutha lingaku Baloyi uya pholisa akalwi noBaloyi uma ku abo advocate uyalwa uvutha amalangabi. Siyakubona konke lokho. Ratha Ratha babu Ratha siyakubona sikubhekile. NOW, NOW NOW MSHOLOLO SAID SO. JAJI AWUBE NEQINISO LAPHO KUWO WONKE UMUNTU SIÝAKUCELA PLEASE.
@thokomsweli6174Ай бұрын
To the SABC officials in court: May you help convey the message to the presiding judge to PLEASE STOP tapping his pen on the table!
@BruceVundla
Ай бұрын
It's very irritating and annoying. It also shows how unprofessional he is.
@zodwareeby279
Ай бұрын
Akazenzi Thoko. Guilt and nervousness is killing him.
@bonganekhupe2147
Ай бұрын
Akanabo Ubuntu lomkhulu, he must also stop calling people as hey-hey-hello-hello
@vezivezi6132
Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with Judge unless you are pushing your agenda.....you are already taking side here😢
@thokomsweli6174
Ай бұрын
@@bonganekhupe2147 😂😂😂😂😂
@juniormaila6712Ай бұрын
Is very worrying wen the judge himself lie about DNA evidence which is in record
@esnathconstancemoyo3674Ай бұрын
It's like Gininda was working alone in this case
@sirbubzin9752
Ай бұрын
No it's bcos he came up with lot of things in the case so it's difficult to involve yourself on sumthing will put ypu in trouble
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
Ай бұрын
@@sirbubzin9752 more confused. Why are they delaying the judgement by calling witnesses who refare them to one person Gininda. Why cant they deal with him once and for all
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
@@esnathconstancemoyo3674The defense is afraid of Gininda
@sushelarajkumar367
Ай бұрын
Loooool 😂😂😂😂😂
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
Ай бұрын
@@sushelarajkumar367 hònest question is supposed to be asked Gininda .
@sandacalu5683Ай бұрын
State is trying to bury the defense in tons of data, the defense is right to challenge this. Defense is running on low budget and has not paralegals or associates to go through that data.
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7usАй бұрын
This question of "cover:up": from the bench is very pregnant....the body language of the judge said. a lot. 23/4/2024
@pinkyndlovu1447
Ай бұрын
I'm watching that ryt noe😮😮😮
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
Ай бұрын
Nam Gatyeni....23/4/2024
@mandlaramsa2477
Ай бұрын
He was warning her not to comment this judge is bais
@user-hs9py2ut1rАй бұрын
Hao Bathong what's going on the killer is out side waiting to pay the balance for those who helped
@mimidiwu330
20 күн бұрын
😂😢
@JohansZukisaniАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂It's a movie, when asked by Ramosepidi about the docket she was aware bt to Mshololo she was not aware, she only knew about it bcz she was the one bringing it to the court 😅😅😅kwaaa hayi malivalwe lelicala
@HousewifeyakokasiАй бұрын
Gininda maybe he can express himself in English but that doesn't mean he's the most intelligent person ever graced us
@thusoetsilegaseemelwe8849
Ай бұрын
Who is that person? The most intelligent that has graced us with his presence that is. No one
@kingphoka-uf5tk
Ай бұрын
indeed we've seen right through his laying face 😈😈
@myrahtshabalala5473Ай бұрын
Did anyone notice how decent the judge addressed failures by Baloyi, something that he never does with the defence
@AgnessChromeАй бұрын
Does she spend her salary with a clean heart , doesnt look like she does everything.
@mikenyakudya3251Ай бұрын
The magistrate has set the tone against Mr Ncumalo and now the witness is also responding rudely...I think the magistrate needs to change his approach coz we spend the whole day listening to Ngobezulu and his partner asking nonsense issues but the magistrate will be quiet and not interjecting negatively
I don't think it's fair on the lawyer N'umalo coz it appears he is the only one who is critical and asks critical questions
@kellybasic7210Ай бұрын
So we must wait for gininda again
@lindabenedictmdlalose8530
Ай бұрын
Oh no! Not that arrogant male again. 🙆
@kellybasic7210
Ай бұрын
@@lindabenedictmdlalose8530 everything is being pushed to him. Suddenly mogola doesn't know anything anymore. We must ask gininda
@mathabophetla5953Ай бұрын
He is laughing when Nxumalo is asking questions thats so annoying
@anniemanda-qh2sj
Ай бұрын
As if he doesn't know wat he's asking very disrespectful judge
@user-jx3eb7zl5o
Ай бұрын
hay shame naye uNximalo imibuzo yakhe uyabheda
@mikenyakudya3251
Ай бұрын
I don't know why he does not like Nxumalo
@lindabenedictmdlalose8530Ай бұрын
Adv Ramosepele, do you really have to read the whole statement to the witness, as if she's unfamiliar with this statement?
@DISCOVERYREALMSAАй бұрын
this looks like judge judy why is the judge so involved 😂
@bongisiwedube9105Ай бұрын
uGININDA UNGU MY LORD KULELICALA
@bejiemАй бұрын
I wonder what this Investigating Officer is paid for by the state "my money" if she knows nothing and Bongani Minister Gininda was cooking the case alone to protect Irvin, Chicco, Kelly, Bhaki Cale,,, and Ramaphalaphala,, let's Vote this ANC out. 29 May
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
There we go again, this conspiracy theories will not work in court, we need evidence
@diphapangmofokeng2709Ай бұрын
Miss no comment with cracked voice
@auntieckmoyo3947Ай бұрын
The Judge is bullying Nxumalo the constant interruptions are noted and the snide remarks during his cross examination. I hope the DJP is watching and will address this. This case is already an embarrassment and to have a Judge add on with his misbehaving is too much. This case is being watched internationally and it’s embarrassing us all as Africans
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
And he is lying about the DNA results, that they were inconclusive. I wish that the defense will revisit the results by recalling the expert who did the tests so he can clarify this issue
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
You a crazy
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
I am sorry this is my sister she is very bad girl
@chad4898
Ай бұрын
@@siphonengu5436imagin a judge who can lie on record😮😮& they want to mak us believ he can come out wth a fair judgement
@PhindileMchunu-st4wzАй бұрын
uratha uzozwa nin ukuba akayeke ikuhafa ama defence
@Eu68345
Ай бұрын
Ikhehla elingcolile
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Lizomelwa inhliziyo 375 is here now kuzobashubela nobaloyi wakhe Ubaloyi uphethwe umkhuhlane akalali is tress uzam ukukhava amanga phela all the time😂
@Adjudicator246Ай бұрын
Many members of the defense team grapple with the distinction between absolutes and qualifiers. For example, they struggle to discern the weight of words like 'all,' 'none,' 'everyone,' 'whole,' 'everything,' and 'never,' compared to qualifiers like 'some,' 'little,' 'most people,' 'greater portion,' 'seldom,' etc. Consequently, they often mix absolutes with near-absolute or virtually absolute terms, leading to interventions from the prosecution and the judge.
@ZenandeBiyelaАй бұрын
What is going on here what Senzo do
@user-hb1ry6bm8rАй бұрын
But Baloyi said he gave them the disc muc … just bona they can’t open it and we must remember his also have to acquire the information as well
@zakesnxumalo7101
Ай бұрын
I don't think you understood Mshololo's point.....
@bonganekhupe2147Ай бұрын
Why Baloyi is holding of all the information that he needs to supply, what is he hiding, Secondly it looks like 90% of the councilors requests like witnesses who still needs to come, Baloyi does not want them to appear in court. Baloyi who are you covering, how much did they pay you
@likelelirampai5986Ай бұрын
Danki Mshololo
@macimezaАй бұрын
Ask Brigadier Gininda 😊
@mzeewandembonyirongo2972
Ай бұрын
Kkkkk
@napoleonblack2398Ай бұрын
Baloyi always gets away with nonsense and never chastised by the Judge
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Ya neh this judge shame he going to take them down with his behavior unoshukela uhlulwa ubugubengu bakhe live mxm jp will keep quiet also because they all involve to this nonsense he's doing
@mapulemadipa596Ай бұрын
So the judge have nothing to say to Baloyi for not issuing the exhibits, ache hle
@lindamkhwebane
Ай бұрын
Very surprising I must say and you still find people who are blaming the defence of wasting time.
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
Bias judge
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@lindamkhwebane yes I am with you 💯 it's baloyi delaying tactics 😂😂
@Lethabo-lf4iy
Ай бұрын
A very biased judge
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
@lindamkhwebane this judge must be removed seriously
@esonaangela2077Ай бұрын
😅😅😅 Mr Nxumalo reserve your questions for Gininda , mam yipopayi getting for nothing.
@tebogogladystladi7129Ай бұрын
Viva advocate Mshololo.Viva advocate Nxumalo. Judge Ratha you are now on the track. Case 375 is now available ,rolling in ,in this court
@vivianmoyo1885Ай бұрын
Judge pls tell mnisi not to play wth time in this case
@orifhamutengwe2881Ай бұрын
What was she investing if she has no idea about everything that was happening
@faithtapureta9806Ай бұрын
Why is that everyone could recognise one intruder and not the other one?
@sindiswamabunda5627
Ай бұрын
Than they got to court and pointed at the one they couldn't recognize (which is number 2). Very strange and confusing.
@khayakhaya4282Ай бұрын
Mr Ratha the dna expect said the swaps from the hat exclude the five accused it’s on record even if you type expect giving dna test on Senzo (on you tube)any one can hear by her /himself period now you changed it something else no man
@MrMsindo1Ай бұрын
This judge is a kinda banana republic type. Stupid arguments with defence, silly jeers and snarly. Disgustingly partial
@tituskandawasvika9764Ай бұрын
Witness voice network is breaking so much please give her some water
@ndumndum1000Ай бұрын
Baningi osisi abanje emsebenzini ehlukene, abaqashwa ngokwe Employment Equity ukuthi izi number zi balance kodwa wonke umuntu uyazi ukuthi lo akazi lutho, umuntu uze athole i promotion to balance numbers ubone nje ukuthi weeh
@Mregas1Ай бұрын
This judge is helping witnesses on how to answer😠😡
@NomusaMthembu-vq1wkАй бұрын
What does this police woman know?
@nephatncube2248Ай бұрын
Mogola was just a messenger girl she is not an investigating officer she has no clue
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
She's clueless about everything
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
U have said it all
@lollypopy5813Ай бұрын
Judge Ratha o tsipela witness leihlo and they expect us to trust his judgement on this case. All of the officers who are involved with this case have been promoted which is very strange. And this is SAPS and they expect us to trust that what it's happening it's lawful. SAPS is the government entity and if this is happening and the government doesn't do anything then who do we trust!?
@mdaxmanne8952Ай бұрын
When is the state asking questions the so called judge is quite, no interuptions.. Nothing whatsoever
@TemasikoMasimulaАй бұрын
Voice shaking....
@nqamlelaian665026 күн бұрын
The poor lady doesn't understand the question
@siphonengu5436Ай бұрын
This woman was told to say that she knows nothing
@NQA1209Ай бұрын
Case content is gone to state, the defense now relay on technicalities
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
And I see them being sued for mentioning people's names without evidence
@SamuelMtembuАй бұрын
U judge uyagadla ngakithi khuzani booo
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Kuyamshubela manje that why enolaka olungaka uzam ukufihla amaqiniso iyo phela into ayihlalele lapho not justice Izomumela inhliziyo lomgegedla wekhehla 375 kancane kancane bayavela benobaloyi Thin ekade sayilandela kade sababona attitude yakhe layenzayo ngeke imusize
@siyabongamviko8872Ай бұрын
Haibo uRatha😂 The DNA guy excluded all these guys. The judge even asked some clarity questions and he was told they don't include these guys. He said they will show a bit because there is some relatedness between people, but these guys are not linked.
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
This is crucial evidence for the defense they cannot afford to be casual about it. Nxumalo seems not to be sure I think the whole defense should emphasize it on behalf of their clients. Otherwise this judge will continue saying it was inconclusive. If need be they can replay the audio or use transcript.
@siyabongamviko8872
Ай бұрын
I was disturbed by the demeanour of Mr Nxumalo, he is so timid! He should have stood his ground. Even Ramosepele has been standing his ground today after the leadership of Mngo, I want to see if he, Sothondose, will get back to the point to force the court to acknowledge that the DNA took these guys out.
@chad4898
Ай бұрын
@@siphonengu5436YES, THATS WHY THE JUDGE WANT TO TWIST IT,,,,😂😂😂😂😂
@user-ny9gl6fb4fАй бұрын
Brigadier gininda investigated this who case alone actually
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
Because he was tasked to, other people were just following his instructions. What's wrong with that?
@esonaangela2077Ай бұрын
Manner in which my lord conducting himself ulihlazo
@nephatncube2248Ай бұрын
This so called investigator knows nothing ...
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
If she can just STOP saying *MY LORD* every time
@Manelimbongwa
Ай бұрын
@@manenikalydia7888 She is irritating because she's full of lair
@LilyCalla-mz2xbАй бұрын
What was the purpose of this investigator? Not only does she knows anything being asked but she doesn’t even recall which timeline she become part of the investigation😂
@valenciashongwe360129 күн бұрын
Dont say just state the truth, its not about worry or feelings its about the truth hle Sergent
@Cracked-EasyАй бұрын
I just like Baloyi's voice, you would swear he is playing scary movie and he is the most wanted whom he brutally kill people for no reason🤦
@mbusomngoma1214
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@jonamarokane1741
Ай бұрын
😊😂
@valenciashongwe360129 күн бұрын
Mara why are people lazy and refusing to do the eork that they have been appointed for. Kuyamangaza tjooooo 😢
@LeeYD2019Ай бұрын
Why should he be selective for her, he has to cross examine as much as he likes so that Truth comes...why bencenga..no comments no comments makahambe she's clueless
@normanzwane1985
Ай бұрын
You think so?
@tembopaul7019Ай бұрын
Wasting public funds and our time
@nephatncube2248Ай бұрын
Ratha the witness
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
Ratha the Prosecutor, Ratha the interpreter
@anniemanda-qh2sj
Ай бұрын
The way he respects the state witnesses
@cliffordmmolawa4824Ай бұрын
Bathong, enlighten me here. What's the purpose of this witness/Sgt? What does she know vele vele. Mosola wa gagwe ke eng😭😭😭😭 Hayi maan...
@gordonmasondo7307Ай бұрын
So this lady knows nothing of everything she's been part of.
@XolaniDlamini-dh2bmАй бұрын
Abayiyeke le case ngoba kudlalwa ngathi
@siemoyo285
Ай бұрын
Njee
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
Alichithwe leli cala
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
Uqinisile
@normanzwane1985
Ай бұрын
Njani kube uSenzo washona?
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7usАй бұрын
Adv G Baloyi is suffering from flue just like me...his voice has drastically changed for bad...23/4/2024
@user-jx7dz4ft1g
Ай бұрын
I really hope he gets better At least he is not asking for adjourments because he's not feeling well.
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
Ай бұрын
Indeed he perseveres. 23/4/2024
@Slamkat
Ай бұрын
Naze navumelana ngo'zero 🤙
@PhethileMotha-bl5mx
Ай бұрын
Ziyakhala there is no flue
@feziwesoji2014Ай бұрын
Usile le manje Mshololo
@yonelankonzo1675Ай бұрын
When did they magically see the second suspect?
@brianluthuli4662Ай бұрын
Difference iyalibambezela leli cala they can't defend their client anymore
@SidumoNgetuАй бұрын
My Lord I mean I was a tea girl my lord for 6 years my lord😂🤣
@thokomsweli6174Ай бұрын
Ratha what exactly is your intention in this case? To help the state? Wow what a presiding officer!
@NjabuloLuwaca-qt2xh
Ай бұрын
Ratha he's intention is to mess up the whole case as he was married to the late sister of Chico Thwala, as for Baloyi he share the same mother with Chico.
Пікірлер: 405
Zandile Mshololo makes me to be proud of being a black woman......she stands her ground....and she is not intimidated by this bully judge who keeps on giggling ...smiling....and ....nxxx ...and interjects...and...makes jokes... when he feels like
Someone's voice is now shaking on the witness box, what's happening 🙄🙄
Confronted with such a witness,I think the counsel should have asked the witness to state which part of the investigation did she take part in!I believe as an investigator you should be privy to every information relating to a case u are investigating. She can't be saying she does not have any idea,whilst at the same time she identifies herself as part of the investigation.
@sindiswamabunda5627
Ай бұрын
She avoided the question even when it was posed that way. She kept on saying she has already testified in that regard...
@NomusaMthembu-vq1wk
Ай бұрын
Exactly
@juniormaila6712
Ай бұрын
She was Gininda tea girl
Why she is in court or the witness if doesn't know anything?
@buyisiwemasondo2079
Ай бұрын
Ipopayi nje lento😂
Hai kushubile futhi siyaya emaphethelweni ayikho into efihlakala kude kuphele. Ayanyakaza mathambo ka Senzo ngku🤞 Ngenelela Bawo futhi uphephise , ubakhusele bonke abaphete elityala ngegama lika Jesu🙏
the judge already concluded this case that all accused are guilty
@TheLan70
Ай бұрын
You are right because he has a lot of people to protect
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
I dont think so, he need to say why. His sentence has touch all the facts sourounding this case otherwise. the case can be appealed and his sentensing set aside.
@glendaserero9228
Ай бұрын
@@zwelimkhize3071In spite of your attempts to obfuscate, it is a fact that judge Ratha has prejudged the matter. The emperor is naked!
Ratha is lying about DNA results. The expert didn't say they are inconclusive he said they are excluded , iyabakhipha.
@beewest5704
Ай бұрын
The test show inconclusive. DNA test do not show positive & negative that is what the judge was trying to get to.
@thandoklaas4679
Ай бұрын
@beewest5704 that's not what the expert said ,it excluded all the accused,in order to get a positive match it had to match everything
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
@beewest5704 Negative means no and positive says yes. It might not be technical language, but in layman lingo, we understand what it means
@khayakhaya4282
Ай бұрын
Indeed he said excluding the five accused if needs to hear it just type expect giving dna results on Senzo it will come up
@heavycurrent101
Ай бұрын
😮😮😮
What is the reason to call this witness she doesn't have knowledge about this case
2:27:45 that moment of silence from this judge needs to be analysed, it's screaming "How are we gonna get out of this one?".
@juniormaila6712
Ай бұрын
😂 dts why he lie about DNA evidence
@heavycurrent101
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@mariamasetloa6272
Ай бұрын
Point 👉
Pheykwakhe Adv Mshololo❤
I’ve never scene in any court where the judge is constantly or even visibly defensive towards the defense as if he has a side to choose. His school boy reactions affirming his excitement for Baloyi’s objections are not just unprofessional behavior but painful to watch. He looks like these primary school bully’s cheering on the side while the ring leader of the group harass the minors.
this judge is something else somehow he become a representative of the witness
Gininda was using the police for his scores
The thing with lying is to cover a lie with a lie and you have to remember the first lie you told all the time
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍yes 💯
@user-ny9gl6fb4f
Ай бұрын
😂😂😅
@lindamkhwebane
Ай бұрын
Lies and more lies! That's why she does not know what to say because of lies. Lies they have short legs.. but also it's embarrassing to be SAPS high ranking a detective who does not know anything all she does it's to be sent as an errant girl.
@ThaboWise
Ай бұрын
U are correct on that part and the worse thing is that you can't keep on covering on the cracks😅😅
@kingphoka-uf5tk
Ай бұрын
undoubtedly that's the hardest part of all the state witnesses 😅
The judge is asking about fairness..but I don't see that very fairness from him
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
What's wrong with fingers and teeth.... everything looks fake on him.... or it's old AGE
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
I see that Baloyi and Ratha are back to their old ways of teaming up against defense. With Mngomezulu they were caught in a whirlwind.
I thought comply and complain later was for an army now you an investigator who knows nothing about the case that she has investigated ... does she knows who is Senzo or gininda must answer?
With all this circus, death sentence will never be an option in this country, with all this incompetence 😢😢😢, it shows how many people are in jail for crimes they didn't do,
NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING ..... WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATOR IS THIS ONE ???
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
She is right she being asked questions about the docket she never investigate. I will also say no comment.
@glendaserero9228
Ай бұрын
@@zwelimkhize3071She is right? Are you normalising incompetence and impunity, now? The country has gone to the dogs!
Pls can we speed this case 🙏 am start loosing weight now 😫 because it's been ages about our legend senzo to get justice ⚖️
Our SAPS is very incompetent if we still have people like Mogane what was her role exactly? She Just said Ask Gininda
@MorolongWaMorakile
Ай бұрын
None whatsoever! I mean she should at least show interest to learn. You’re given a mandate or task but don’t take part in reviewing or analysing the information. 🙆🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
@lesegoraikane9593
Ай бұрын
@MorolongWaMorakile exactly she reminds of school when we used to do group work and there was that student that was always there but contributes nothing
@lesegokgotlhang6434
Ай бұрын
This witness is simply staying within her lane and that is fine. The defence lawyers are spending a lot of time cross examining the witness on the statements of other witnesses without linking that to her testmony and hence she must stay in her lane. She must stay away from entangling herself with other people's testmonies as much as possible.
@MxolisiMthembu6018
Ай бұрын
@@lesegokgotlhang6434But Lesego she is not just a witness but an Investigation Officer in this case.
@buyisiwemasondo2079
Ай бұрын
@@lesegokgotlhang6434she's supposed to know as she was part of the investigation.
Our judge is so bold when it comes to the defence
@napoleonblack2398
Ай бұрын
Baloyi is the NPA Blue eyed boy surely. Its madness what he gets away with. And thua poor legal aid folkes are always rebuked
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@@napoleonblack2398 they must learn to stand up against this thugs 😈🤬🙊😡
@nombangokubheka2170
Ай бұрын
True
@mdaxmanne8952
Ай бұрын
So bold he even talks over them. But when it's The prosecution turn he is so calm and quiet
Why so many people passed away in this case 😢😢and Mokgola can only comment on Makaleni... That he passed on🤔🤔 nje ngo Mabhena
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
Yes so many killed 😭😭 we pray for Mngomezulu's safety and his family together with innocent suspects especially Ntanzi 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👿
@dlalabuja1
Ай бұрын
Pray for Makhubu or Buthelezi375 investigators🛐
@beewest5704
Ай бұрын
That is why it's not ideal that suspects are only brought to court so long after a murder. Just count how many ppl you know that have died since 2014.
@sctv8809
Ай бұрын
Gininda killed them because they going to disclose information arresting longwe
@SonOfTheSoil834
Ай бұрын
Is obvious that this murders accused here where trying to mask the case
Witness trembling, the voice says lots
Amen
An investigating officer which doesnt know anything about a case,everything is Gininda
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
You can say it again him and baloyi told her to say nothing so he can come back 👿👿👿👿
@mimidiwu330
20 күн бұрын
Looks like Gininda told his team officials to never know a thing and that he will answer for himself Banga worry🤷
Prosecutor Baloyi must billed for the costs of court sittings on other wasted days like this one.
@MorolongWaMorakile
Ай бұрын
Brigadier Gininda should have been called really. 🙄
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
@@MorolongWaMorakileBut he was there and he put all these defence to shame. Gininda is not an amateur..
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@@dannym7593 Shame is gininda paying you, he didn't answer what he was asked instead explained how he dies crooked things. Look at all the affidavits he's writing now for all his stupid witnesses. This WITNESSES couldn't answer after their affidavits LIES 😈🤬 Mngomezulu is just right for him they will call him as per today's lying witness mentioning him all the time. It's either she's throws him under the bus or he said she must not answer anything and leave it to him 🤬😈😡🙊
So the investigating officer doesnt even know the contents of the docket 😂😂😂😂.
@zwelimkhize3071
Ай бұрын
I don't think she is stupid. She is just movimg amd trending slowly with her evidence. Since she was. not part of the other docket as an investigator. The defence identified her as perhaps a weakest link, and they are mixing up evidence from the old docket which is not part of this trial and the docket she was part of. So they just want her to say her own personal opinion and they use that as a weapon to. fight Gininda when he came to testify as a tool to discredit his evidence. You will remember Sgt Mohale was also on the doc. They never did the same to him aski g him about docket 375. Baloyi has called her to testify about chain of evidence of taking blood from the 2 suspects. They saw that as an opportunity to go back to the evidemce that was longtime presented at court all this Tumelo and Zandi has already testify regarding this evidence. So its like closing their mistakes and things they omitted to asked. So they are using her to dismantle the team. They habe been struggling since yesterday until Mngomezulu looses his cool yesterday after she didn't cracked her. She then say you cocked the case. Their examination is based on the docket she never investigated. but this guy Ramsepule is kindly smart as opposed to Mngo. He don't make reckless statements that will put Ntanzi in a corner when he is under cross examination. Once you say a statement you never able to retract. It will be part of cross examination. Accuse one will have to explain what it cover up and it will be difficult to explain to the court.
@bonganekhupe2147
Ай бұрын
🤔🤔Hawu yazi, I am also surprised
@bongiwendlovu3293
Ай бұрын
Ayikho nje into ayaziyo lomama uyangdina maan , these pple must tell the truth.!!
Why does it appear the magistrate is always against Mr N'umalo's cross examination from the beginning
I am Namibian and lived in SA when this happened and still going on. Atleast this is better. Case. Than Joslin that disappeared in CPT about 70days ago. Life is just not fair. It's sad. One disappeared because of mom's negligence. One died in the presence of a lover. Reminding me of OJ case. And for her to walk around and pretending like she don't know what happened.
Ubaba ujaji Ratha uma iphutha lingaku Baloyi uya pholisa akalwi noBaloyi uma ku abo advocate uyalwa uvutha amalangabi. Siyakubona konke lokho. Ratha Ratha babu Ratha siyakubona sikubhekile. NOW, NOW NOW MSHOLOLO SAID SO. JAJI AWUBE NEQINISO LAPHO KUWO WONKE UMUNTU SIÝAKUCELA PLEASE.
To the SABC officials in court: May you help convey the message to the presiding judge to PLEASE STOP tapping his pen on the table!
@BruceVundla
Ай бұрын
It's very irritating and annoying. It also shows how unprofessional he is.
@zodwareeby279
Ай бұрын
Akazenzi Thoko. Guilt and nervousness is killing him.
@bonganekhupe2147
Ай бұрын
Akanabo Ubuntu lomkhulu, he must also stop calling people as hey-hey-hello-hello
@vezivezi6132
Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with Judge unless you are pushing your agenda.....you are already taking side here😢
@thokomsweli6174
Ай бұрын
@@bonganekhupe2147 😂😂😂😂😂
Is very worrying wen the judge himself lie about DNA evidence which is in record
It's like Gininda was working alone in this case
@sirbubzin9752
Ай бұрын
No it's bcos he came up with lot of things in the case so it's difficult to involve yourself on sumthing will put ypu in trouble
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
Ай бұрын
@@sirbubzin9752 more confused. Why are they delaying the judgement by calling witnesses who refare them to one person Gininda. Why cant they deal with him once and for all
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
@@esnathconstancemoyo3674The defense is afraid of Gininda
@sushelarajkumar367
Ай бұрын
Loooool 😂😂😂😂😂
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
Ай бұрын
@@sushelarajkumar367 hònest question is supposed to be asked Gininda .
State is trying to bury the defense in tons of data, the defense is right to challenge this. Defense is running on low budget and has not paralegals or associates to go through that data.
This question of "cover:up": from the bench is very pregnant....the body language of the judge said. a lot. 23/4/2024
@pinkyndlovu1447
Ай бұрын
I'm watching that ryt noe😮😮😮
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
Ай бұрын
Nam Gatyeni....23/4/2024
@mandlaramsa2477
Ай бұрын
He was warning her not to comment this judge is bais
Hao Bathong what's going on the killer is out side waiting to pay the balance for those who helped
@mimidiwu330
20 күн бұрын
😂😢
😂😂😂😂It's a movie, when asked by Ramosepidi about the docket she was aware bt to Mshololo she was not aware, she only knew about it bcz she was the one bringing it to the court 😅😅😅kwaaa hayi malivalwe lelicala
Gininda maybe he can express himself in English but that doesn't mean he's the most intelligent person ever graced us
@thusoetsilegaseemelwe8849
Ай бұрын
Who is that person? The most intelligent that has graced us with his presence that is. No one
@kingphoka-uf5tk
Ай бұрын
indeed we've seen right through his laying face 😈😈
Did anyone notice how decent the judge addressed failures by Baloyi, something that he never does with the defence
Does she spend her salary with a clean heart , doesnt look like she does everything.
The magistrate has set the tone against Mr Ncumalo and now the witness is also responding rudely...I think the magistrate needs to change his approach coz we spend the whole day listening to Ngobezulu and his partner asking nonsense issues but the magistrate will be quiet and not interjecting negatively
@sindiswamabunda5627
Ай бұрын
Judge*
Guys plz what happen to Sabc no Comments ???
@nonikomaluleks317
Ай бұрын
The comments were only closed for one day
Moghola walandela umakaleni waqede washona wamenzani yena 😢😢😢
I don't think it's fair on the lawyer N'umalo coz it appears he is the only one who is critical and asks critical questions
So we must wait for gininda again
@lindabenedictmdlalose8530
Ай бұрын
Oh no! Not that arrogant male again. 🙆
@kellybasic7210
Ай бұрын
@@lindabenedictmdlalose8530 everything is being pushed to him. Suddenly mogola doesn't know anything anymore. We must ask gininda
He is laughing when Nxumalo is asking questions thats so annoying
@anniemanda-qh2sj
Ай бұрын
As if he doesn't know wat he's asking very disrespectful judge
@user-jx3eb7zl5o
Ай бұрын
hay shame naye uNximalo imibuzo yakhe uyabheda
@mikenyakudya3251
Ай бұрын
I don't know why he does not like Nxumalo
Adv Ramosepele, do you really have to read the whole statement to the witness, as if she's unfamiliar with this statement?
this looks like judge judy why is the judge so involved 😂
uGININDA UNGU MY LORD KULELICALA
I wonder what this Investigating Officer is paid for by the state "my money" if she knows nothing and Bongani Minister Gininda was cooking the case alone to protect Irvin, Chicco, Kelly, Bhaki Cale,,, and Ramaphalaphala,, let's Vote this ANC out. 29 May
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
There we go again, this conspiracy theories will not work in court, we need evidence
Miss no comment with cracked voice
The Judge is bullying Nxumalo the constant interruptions are noted and the snide remarks during his cross examination. I hope the DJP is watching and will address this. This case is already an embarrassment and to have a Judge add on with his misbehaving is too much. This case is being watched internationally and it’s embarrassing us all as Africans
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
And he is lying about the DNA results, that they were inconclusive. I wish that the defense will revisit the results by recalling the expert who did the tests so he can clarify this issue
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
You a crazy
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
I am sorry this is my sister she is very bad girl
@chad4898
Ай бұрын
@@siphonengu5436imagin a judge who can lie on record😮😮& they want to mak us believ he can come out wth a fair judgement
uratha uzozwa nin ukuba akayeke ikuhafa ama defence
@Eu68345
Ай бұрын
Ikhehla elingcolile
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Lizomelwa inhliziyo 375 is here now kuzobashubela nobaloyi wakhe Ubaloyi uphethwe umkhuhlane akalali is tress uzam ukukhava amanga phela all the time😂
Many members of the defense team grapple with the distinction between absolutes and qualifiers. For example, they struggle to discern the weight of words like 'all,' 'none,' 'everyone,' 'whole,' 'everything,' and 'never,' compared to qualifiers like 'some,' 'little,' 'most people,' 'greater portion,' 'seldom,' etc. Consequently, they often mix absolutes with near-absolute or virtually absolute terms, leading to interventions from the prosecution and the judge.
What is going on here what Senzo do
But Baloyi said he gave them the disc muc … just bona they can’t open it and we must remember his also have to acquire the information as well
@zakesnxumalo7101
Ай бұрын
I don't think you understood Mshololo's point.....
Why Baloyi is holding of all the information that he needs to supply, what is he hiding, Secondly it looks like 90% of the councilors requests like witnesses who still needs to come, Baloyi does not want them to appear in court. Baloyi who are you covering, how much did they pay you
Danki Mshololo
Ask Brigadier Gininda 😊
@mzeewandembonyirongo2972
Ай бұрын
Kkkkk
Baloyi always gets away with nonsense and never chastised by the Judge
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Ya neh this judge shame he going to take them down with his behavior unoshukela uhlulwa ubugubengu bakhe live mxm jp will keep quiet also because they all involve to this nonsense he's doing
So the judge have nothing to say to Baloyi for not issuing the exhibits, ache hle
@lindamkhwebane
Ай бұрын
Very surprising I must say and you still find people who are blaming the defence of wasting time.
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
Bias judge
@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
Ай бұрын
@lindamkhwebane yes I am with you 💯 it's baloyi delaying tactics 😂😂
@Lethabo-lf4iy
Ай бұрын
A very biased judge
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
@lindamkhwebane this judge must be removed seriously
😅😅😅 Mr Nxumalo reserve your questions for Gininda , mam yipopayi getting for nothing.
Viva advocate Mshololo.Viva advocate Nxumalo. Judge Ratha you are now on the track. Case 375 is now available ,rolling in ,in this court
Judge pls tell mnisi not to play wth time in this case
What was she investing if she has no idea about everything that was happening
Why is that everyone could recognise one intruder and not the other one?
@sindiswamabunda5627
Ай бұрын
Than they got to court and pointed at the one they couldn't recognize (which is number 2). Very strange and confusing.
Mr Ratha the dna expect said the swaps from the hat exclude the five accused it’s on record even if you type expect giving dna test on Senzo (on you tube)any one can hear by her /himself period now you changed it something else no man
This judge is a kinda banana republic type. Stupid arguments with defence, silly jeers and snarly. Disgustingly partial
Witness voice network is breaking so much please give her some water
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This judge is helping witnesses on how to answer😠😡
What does this police woman know?
Mogola was just a messenger girl she is not an investigating officer she has no clue
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
She's clueless about everything
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
U have said it all
Judge Ratha o tsipela witness leihlo and they expect us to trust his judgement on this case. All of the officers who are involved with this case have been promoted which is very strange. And this is SAPS and they expect us to trust that what it's happening it's lawful. SAPS is the government entity and if this is happening and the government doesn't do anything then who do we trust!?
When is the state asking questions the so called judge is quite, no interuptions.. Nothing whatsoever
Voice shaking....
The poor lady doesn't understand the question
This woman was told to say that she knows nothing
Case content is gone to state, the defense now relay on technicalities
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
And I see them being sued for mentioning people's names without evidence
U judge uyagadla ngakithi khuzani booo
@prettysandiswajobe6221
Ай бұрын
Kuyamshubela manje that why enolaka olungaka uzam ukufihla amaqiniso iyo phela into ayihlalele lapho not justice Izomumela inhliziyo lomgegedla wekhehla 375 kancane kancane bayavela benobaloyi Thin ekade sayilandela kade sababona attitude yakhe layenzayo ngeke imusize
Haibo uRatha😂 The DNA guy excluded all these guys. The judge even asked some clarity questions and he was told they don't include these guys. He said they will show a bit because there is some relatedness between people, but these guys are not linked.
@siphonengu5436
Ай бұрын
This is crucial evidence for the defense they cannot afford to be casual about it. Nxumalo seems not to be sure I think the whole defense should emphasize it on behalf of their clients. Otherwise this judge will continue saying it was inconclusive. If need be they can replay the audio or use transcript.
@siyabongamviko8872
Ай бұрын
I was disturbed by the demeanour of Mr Nxumalo, he is so timid! He should have stood his ground. Even Ramosepele has been standing his ground today after the leadership of Mngo, I want to see if he, Sothondose, will get back to the point to force the court to acknowledge that the DNA took these guys out.
@chad4898
Ай бұрын
@@siphonengu5436YES, THATS WHY THE JUDGE WANT TO TWIST IT,,,,😂😂😂😂😂
Brigadier gininda investigated this who case alone actually
@dannym7593
Ай бұрын
Because he was tasked to, other people were just following his instructions. What's wrong with that?
Manner in which my lord conducting himself ulihlazo
This so called investigator knows nothing ...
@manenikalydia7888
Ай бұрын
If she can just STOP saying *MY LORD* every time
@Manelimbongwa
Ай бұрын
@@manenikalydia7888 She is irritating because she's full of lair
What was the purpose of this investigator? Not only does she knows anything being asked but she doesn’t even recall which timeline she become part of the investigation😂
Dont say just state the truth, its not about worry or feelings its about the truth hle Sergent
I just like Baloyi's voice, you would swear he is playing scary movie and he is the most wanted whom he brutally kill people for no reason🤦
@mbusomngoma1214
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@jonamarokane1741
Ай бұрын
😊😂
Mara why are people lazy and refusing to do the eork that they have been appointed for. Kuyamangaza tjooooo 😢
Why should he be selective for her, he has to cross examine as much as he likes so that Truth comes...why bencenga..no comments no comments makahambe she's clueless
@normanzwane1985
Ай бұрын
You think so?
Wasting public funds and our time
Ratha the witness
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
Ratha the Prosecutor, Ratha the interpreter
@anniemanda-qh2sj
Ай бұрын
The way he respects the state witnesses
Bathong, enlighten me here. What's the purpose of this witness/Sgt? What does she know vele vele. Mosola wa gagwe ke eng😭😭😭😭 Hayi maan...
So this lady knows nothing of everything she's been part of.
Abayiyeke le case ngoba kudlalwa ngathi
@siemoyo285
Ай бұрын
Njee
@sinenhlanhlabhengu7942
Ай бұрын
Alichithwe leli cala
@ZenandeBiyela
Ай бұрын
Uqinisile
@normanzwane1985
Ай бұрын
Njani kube uSenzo washona?
Adv G Baloyi is suffering from flue just like me...his voice has drastically changed for bad...23/4/2024
@user-jx7dz4ft1g
Ай бұрын
I really hope he gets better At least he is not asking for adjourments because he's not feeling well.
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
Ай бұрын
Indeed he perseveres. 23/4/2024
@Slamkat
Ай бұрын
Naze navumelana ngo'zero 🤙
@PhethileMotha-bl5mx
Ай бұрын
Ziyakhala there is no flue
Usile le manje Mshololo
When did they magically see the second suspect?
Difference iyalibambezela leli cala they can't defend their client anymore
My Lord I mean I was a tea girl my lord for 6 years my lord😂🤣
Ratha what exactly is your intention in this case? To help the state? Wow what a presiding officer!
@NjabuloLuwaca-qt2xh
Ай бұрын
Ratha he's intention is to mess up the whole case as he was married to the late sister of Chico Thwala, as for Baloyi he share the same mother with Chico.