Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 01 September 2023

The defence in the Senzo Meyiwa murder trial underway in the high court in Pretoria has indicated it wants to bring its own ballistics expert to the stand. Five men are currently on trial for the murder of the soccer star. Yesterday state witness and ballistics expert Chris Mangena concluded his examination-in-chief. Now the defence wants to bring its own expert before cross-examining Mangena. Mangena has given damning testimony including that two shots were fired inside the house where Meyiwa was killed. And that the gun that killed Meyiwa was the same one confiscated from accused number 3, Mthobisi Mncube in 2015.
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  • @mbusomngoma1214
    @mbusomngoma12149 ай бұрын

    Mshololo's attitude towards the judge:You can interrupt my cross examination all you want but my question stands and I wont allow you to distract or intimidate me 😅 Ngizobuza ngendlela yami!!😅 Thatha Mshololo 😅

  • @nanak1602

    @nanak1602

    9 ай бұрын

    She said that??!😮😂

  • @mbusomngoma1214

    @mbusomngoma1214

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nanak1602 That was her attitude 😆Ngiyamtolikela😅

  • @nanak1602

    @nanak1602

    9 ай бұрын

    Ohhh!! 😂😂 it’s a bout Tome! Big Ups to her !!! 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @nanak1602

    @nanak1602

    9 ай бұрын

    Ohhh!! 😂😂 it’s a bout Tome! Big Ups to her !!! 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @mbusomngoma1214

    @mbusomngoma1214

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nanak1602 😅😅😅🤝

  • @mapholadavid9160
    @mapholadavid91609 ай бұрын

    Advocate Charles Mnisi is brilliant black excellence 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @makay3287

    @makay3287

    9 ай бұрын

    He's a MORON!

  • @ngqaphelindwandwe9452

    @ngqaphelindwandwe9452

    9 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't agree with u .after he failed to understand why the 2nd test was conducted with the different bullets

  • @klevayerastamedia4393
    @klevayerastamedia43939 ай бұрын

    We request that the judge shut up when the defence is cross examining the witnesses please

  • @siphonengu5436

    @siphonengu5436

    9 ай бұрын

    He was given 5 books to read by Mangena so he wants to practice what he read

  • @sushelarajkumar367

    @sushelarajkumar367

    9 ай бұрын

    JUDGE IS BUSY MESSING UP THIS CASE....BROWN ENVELOPE GIVEN 😢😢😢😢😢

  • @user-oe1bt9lj9p
    @user-oe1bt9lj9p9 ай бұрын

    Always remember this was retired judge. Brought back to the bench. His got nothing to loose either. No legacy to attain

  • @Lovetvsa

    @Lovetvsa

    9 ай бұрын

    But he is doing great so far to guide everyone to stay on track including defense.

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    Love him

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    100% with u

  • @charlesmokoane5709

    @charlesmokoane5709

    9 ай бұрын

    100% correct

  • @Zulomnyama.

    @Zulomnyama.

    9 ай бұрын

    The question is who chose him and why him only among many...the reasons will give you expected results and agenda behind...

  • @imogenemathe6723
    @imogenemathe67239 ай бұрын

    He is the judge, prosecutor, witness and defendant. This judge wants to be everything interesting person he is!

  • @evolution405

    @evolution405

    9 ай бұрын

    He needed a 3weeks intensive updating course. A classic corporal old school punishment error. I can imagen if the defence team were his students. He's extremely impatient & always want to be relevant.

  • @gabisiledladla4404

    @gabisiledladla4404

    9 ай бұрын

    Corruption at play. This trial us unfair

  • @bralucks

    @bralucks

    9 ай бұрын

    The judge has no respect for defence lawyers but I am happy they stand their ground.

  • @rita_TM

    @rita_TM

    9 ай бұрын

    He always wants to win even when he’s wrong. For him it’s about winning not about being correct. I don’t see any fairness as a judge should be fair

  • @SphaShange-ms7vq

    @SphaShange-ms7vq

    9 ай бұрын

    Lol😂 so true

  • @barnettchirwa8209
    @barnettchirwa82099 ай бұрын

    Baloyi can't re exermine because my Lord has done that for him what a kangaroo court

  • @imogenemathe6723

    @imogenemathe6723

    9 ай бұрын

    Very much so

  • @Power-lt5eb

    @Power-lt5eb

    9 ай бұрын

    Indeed this is a cangaroo court, decision was made long ago that only conviction they want. Just to protect the image of certain people

  • @nanak1602

    @nanak1602

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @True_crime_justice
    @True_crime_justice9 ай бұрын

    Thank you defense council for pushing forward despite all the resistance🙏

  • @tpm5273
    @tpm52739 ай бұрын

    I think they should just put the judge on the witness stand so he can tell us what actually happened. He seem to know a lot! 😑

  • @aubreymathe9415

    @aubreymathe9415

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @VernieRollison

    @VernieRollison

    9 ай бұрын

    This judge should be disciplined. TEFFO would've silenced him

  • @XolileNene

    @XolileNene

    9 ай бұрын

    This case is opening our minds ,,, there's no justice is SA

  • @ndlelalonwabo3093

    @ndlelalonwabo3093

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263
    @therealmncwanegwabeni72639 ай бұрын

    Having watched the whole recording and listened to the judge qoute the Act and the expert text book 📖 at the end 👏👏🙌🙌 , I can only say, u rock my lord 🫠. Hamba my lord, you are cooking with gas my lord. You are a scholar my lord 😊😊. YOUR handling of this case is GIVING my lord 👌😍😘🎉🎉 🙌🙌🙌💡💡

  • @hilmandeyanayi500
    @hilmandeyanayi5009 ай бұрын

    This judge nee he is too much Mr know everything shame

  • @Lenaka_
    @Lenaka_9 ай бұрын

    The judge is making sure that accused number 3 goes down with that Gun analysis

  • @gabisiledladla4404

    @gabisiledladla4404

    9 ай бұрын

    The state must prove that he was in house..

  • @gladysmkhize4085

    @gladysmkhize4085

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gabisiledladla4404 he doesn't have home he was raining around looking for the place to stay after killing the taxi boss

  • @sushelarajkumar367

    @sushelarajkumar367

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@gabisiledladla4404excellent comment

  • @vusishongwe5617

    @vusishongwe5617

    9 ай бұрын

    True he concluded which is wrong . He undermines lawyers

  • @rita_TM

    @rita_TM

    9 ай бұрын

    But accused 3 already went down for this gun and is currently serving time so they can’t punish him twice for the same crime. They still haven’t proven without reasonable doubt that his gun killed Senzo coz the eye witnesses said it was a revolver that shot Senzo and accused no.3’s gun is not a revolver.

  • @barnettchirwa8209
    @barnettchirwa82099 ай бұрын

    The judge looks like any person coming with a different version will not be allowed as if he has already made his mind. Leave the defence to do the work

  • @stanleykhumalo5158

    @stanleykhumalo5158

    9 ай бұрын

    This judge looks like he has already found the accused guilty

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611

    @goodmanmthiyane5611

    9 ай бұрын

  • @krishnareddy4423

    @krishnareddy4423

    9 ай бұрын

    I share the same sentiments.

  • @gabisiledladla4404

    @gabisiledladla4404

    9 ай бұрын

    Corruption of judges at play.

  • @gladysmkhize4085

    @gladysmkhize4085

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gabisiledladla4404 really

  • @Ms_Mankotham
    @Ms_Mankotham9 ай бұрын

    If we understand criminal law, this judge is going to surprise many in here.

  • @Lovetvsa

    @Lovetvsa

    9 ай бұрын

    Just wait and see, speaking from a criminalistic expert's point of view

  • @user-if7no9zz4p

    @user-if7no9zz4p

    9 ай бұрын

    I can't lie, I can't even predict the correct outcome,

  • @Ms_Mankotham

    @Ms_Mankotham

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-if7no9zz4pask yourself why Mosia lied. Now he has to come back

  • @buyixaba6024

    @buyixaba6024

    9 ай бұрын

    He is confusing us . He is very impatient, irritable, undermines the council.... hai he is very unprofessional.

  • @Ms_Mankotham

    @Ms_Mankotham

    9 ай бұрын

    @@buyixaba6024he thinks that he is the only person who knows the court proceedings

  • @mtttttttttttte6205
    @mtttttttttttte62059 ай бұрын

    Clearly this gun has a story .why was this not picked up in the alex case but later.mangena is corrupt like Gininda

  • @BathunywaMzana

    @BathunywaMzana

    9 ай бұрын

    Respect must be given where is due. Magena is an excellent expert. He has testified in a number of courts. It's just that we as black people have a challenge of accepting black excellance.

  • @mphomokgatle8243
    @mphomokgatle82439 ай бұрын

    Adv Nxumalo is sweet and kind....

  • @luckyndlovu2926

    @luckyndlovu2926

    9 ай бұрын

    Too sweet for my liking in this case.

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    He must continue with that demeanor but sharpen his research skills, confidence and presentation of questions. He has a bright future ❤ viva

  • @ziyandamaphini4722

    @ziyandamaphini4722

    9 ай бұрын

    Mpho!! An Advocate u "sweet"....😂😂😂😂.......

  • @klevayerastamedia4393
    @klevayerastamedia43939 ай бұрын

    If the atching process was first done on the firearm for the Alexandra case from what we gather how is it possible that the same firearm was for the second time retrieved the serial number?? We gather that you cannot do the process twice and get the positive results for the second time how was it possible this ime around

  • @phethedimatji5147

    @phethedimatji5147

    9 ай бұрын

    And why would they atch one gun twice, the gun has already been identified Mos.

  • @Vuyisani

    @Vuyisani

    9 ай бұрын

    thats why the lab number is written on the fiream after etching, so that they can relate to that gun via the lab number

  • @user-fk8js4rt3i
    @user-fk8js4rt3i9 ай бұрын

    Retired judge is now a judge and expert.

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    Retired, this is a joke.

  • @nkosinathinu6182
    @nkosinathinu61829 ай бұрын

    Kodwa why the judge always helping the withness

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263
    @therealmncwanegwabeni72639 ай бұрын

    I came from ENCA streaming to just send u ❤ my lord ❤. I heard ziyaduma la ku SABC streaming and uyathukwa kuma comments my lord. Ngithi power to you my lord🙌, ngithi sukuma my lord🎓. Qhubeka my Lord, uzanayo nicely my Lord🧠. Sekuyavela my lord💡👀. Unganaki abakuthukayo my lord. They crucified uJesus my lord eGolgotha 😇, uyini wena? They accused uMaumela of the same and said he was bought to defeat the end of justice. Now bakuwe my lord. Phambili my Lord 🙌🙌🇿🇦🇿🇦💚

  • @ambrosmandega8366
    @ambrosmandega83669 ай бұрын

    Justice must prevail 💪

  • @user-mp9pp5wd2o
    @user-mp9pp5wd2o9 ай бұрын

    If the Judge is not angry he is disturbing the defence, or speaking on behalf of witness and making the prosecutors look stupid

  • @gloriaberger515

    @gloriaberger515

    9 ай бұрын

    I dislike this judge

  • @sarahmetzler8028

    @sarahmetzler8028

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gloriaberger515me too

  • @Bass0278

    @Bass0278

    9 ай бұрын

    His really become ridiculous honestly

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611

    @goodmanmthiyane5611

    9 ай бұрын

    ❤ judge Judy

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611

    @goodmanmthiyane5611

    9 ай бұрын

    I hate him, that's why they retired him he is a law unto himself

  • @japhetkuli1131
    @japhetkuli11319 ай бұрын

    The judge made his verdict the very first day he set on that chair , remember he called the accused and spoke about what the charges are and what the outcome could be , that for me he already knew the story behind this case and what he will say about it

  • @samuelmogashane2988
    @samuelmogashane29889 ай бұрын

    The witness said that he had 18 bullets sealed and but Mangena said he received 16. Where did the 2 bullets vanished to?

  • @musacornwell7282

    @musacornwell7282

    9 ай бұрын

    Does it matter

  • @leeroytenga9762

    @leeroytenga9762

    9 ай бұрын

    They were shot by the other forensic officer trying to find a match follow the case properly

  • @mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
    @mrsboingotlopolitebucksch46829 ай бұрын

    Cant ramaphosa remove him we can start afresh no problem as long as we have a FAIR one who gives defense chance ya go bua ba sa tsenwe ganong.Ramosepele glad you said that in the perpernity #justice4senzo #RELEASEteffo #ARRESTkellyAndLebandla 🇩🇪🇧🇼😡💔🇿🇦🚮🚩👎🏿

  • @WillofHopefarmers

    @WillofHopefarmers

    9 ай бұрын

    I disagree the judge knows what his doing and listens attentively with an understanding but then again seems like south africans know what happened and are used to corruption to the point that they think everything and anyone is corrupt just because he easily gets irritated doesn't mean his corrupt 9 years has passed now we need to get to the bottom of this and justice must be severed

  • @Lovetvsa
    @Lovetvsa9 ай бұрын

    I liked how eager to learn this judge is, hey he is updating himself.

  • @Maktion-zp6gu
    @Maktion-zp6gu9 ай бұрын

    I saw love Mshololo's smile when she questions the witnesses 😊

  • @mphocosby8118

    @mphocosby8118

    9 ай бұрын

    Switikile xemu Mara Xikwembu I xikulu hi kwaswo swita humela I handle

  • @ntombehlubinelani8781
    @ntombehlubinelani87819 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry this Judge is not only interfering is undermining the defence .

  • @rita_TM

    @rita_TM

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes and redirecting questions… I wasn’t impressed by the judge today

  • @Vuyisani

    @Vuyisani

    9 ай бұрын

    that is because the defence's story is that they were not there... now they are busy trying to disprove everything, why if you were not there? just deal with your absence or whatever implicates you... dragging this case but you say you were not there. bangena phi how the bullet was fired if bathi bebe ngekho, the judge is gatvol, nam ndidikiwe, for instance Accused 4 and 5 have not been placed in the house but they will contest what was happening in the house

  • @thamimpemvane9199

    @thamimpemvane9199

    9 ай бұрын

    This judge I could have long called him with her mom if I was a lawyer in this case

  • @MartinVilakazi-ft9de

    @MartinVilakazi-ft9de

    9 ай бұрын

    His very bossie in this case acts like he knows it all his very baise

  • @Power-lt5eb
    @Power-lt5eb9 ай бұрын

    Indeed a joke . I concure if there is a place where the judiciary supposed to be reported for unethical or partial behaviour, there is one who need to be reported. Its obvious he or she can be seen which side is favouring in a criminal case. Thats injustice from a preciding officer

  • @sibongilejembula5652

    @sibongilejembula5652

    9 ай бұрын

    Let’s start a petition

  • @phethedimatji5147

    @phethedimatji5147

    9 ай бұрын

    Appeal

  • @imogenemathe6723
    @imogenemathe67239 ай бұрын

    The judge has already made the verdict case closed. He has collected his brown envelope

  • @mthokozisilanga4497

    @mthokozisilanga4497

    9 ай бұрын

    I have been telling people that, when those in the house were taking a stand. Now its even worse and yet people do not see that the judge is already convinced that there were intruders, and he is now convinced beyond reasonable doubt by the ballistic experts that the exhibits are pointing to accuse no:3 and were involved in the Vosloorus case he is presiding on.

  • @sushelarajkumar367

    @sushelarajkumar367

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@mthokozisilanga4497JUDGE IS TOTALLY CORRUPT N SO IS RAMAPHUUUUUSA WHO DELIBERATELY PUT HIM HERE

  • @Mpume-jl9hz
    @Mpume-jl9hz9 ай бұрын

    Aibo! is it me or the judge is trying to signal the witness while witness is answering Mnisi

  • @NtsikiNkosi

    @NtsikiNkosi

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lindipholose6296
    @lindipholose62969 ай бұрын

    The case is currently 50/50 It's police negligence and lack of consistency Vs accused killers on the dock who are consistent with crimes. The defence must just bring their own witnesses and experts to have an upper hand All that's left is who proves to the judge beyond reasonable doubt

  • @magamanevincent6788

    @magamanevincent6788

    9 ай бұрын

    There is no 50/50 my sister.. Gininda has fabricated everything so far and I think he is winning maybe 70/30.. Accuse nr 3 is in trouble so far

  • @user-if7no9zz4p

    @user-if7no9zz4p

    9 ай бұрын

    "Who proves to the judge beyond reasonable doubt "👌

  • @nompendulomatshanda5021
    @nompendulomatshanda50219 ай бұрын

    Judge Judge Judge uyadika shame

  • @phumzagalada6263

    @phumzagalada6263

    9 ай бұрын

    Unezothe five fingers nxa

  • @mbusomngoma1214
    @mbusomngoma12149 ай бұрын

    This judge get paid to be a judge,an advocate and an expert 🙄sometimes a witness...So why not just close this case and tell us who killed Senzo,instead of waisting time ngoba wazi konke!!🤔

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611

    @goodmanmthiyane5611

    9 ай бұрын

    ❤ I give up you right, judge and juror

  • @mbusomngoma1214

    @mbusomngoma1214

    9 ай бұрын

    @@goodmanmthiyane5611 And juror 😆

  • @sibongilejembula5652

    @sibongilejembula5652

    9 ай бұрын

    With Tefo other law professionals were quick to report him, saying he is disgrace to their profession. Why are they quiet about this judge. I get that he has nothing to loose since he is retired but I’ve never seen or heard of a judge with so many interruptions. He comes across as bias.

  • @mbusomngoma1214

    @mbusomngoma1214

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sibongilejembula5652 He is definitely bias and he is sure that he wont be removed or reported..

  • @nandiphanashwa1119

    @nandiphanashwa1119

    9 ай бұрын

    U so I love with these lawyers ,and I wonder what I gonna say if it turns out ,ur love with these accused is so overwhelming,😂

  • @NtsikiNkosi
    @NtsikiNkosi9 ай бұрын

    I hate these arguments and learning things from the judge infront of us, it gives no respect!

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    This is what happens in courts around the world. We were just brought in this because it is a prominent case and SA wants to know who killed Senzo

  • @thandicindi6413
    @thandicindi64139 ай бұрын

    The judge is very uncomfortable with Mshololo’s questions. I wonder why!!

  • @tiyaninkondo486
    @tiyaninkondo4869 ай бұрын

    Is it normal procedure for the judge to answer on behalf of witnesses? Pardon my ignorance i am a layman

  • @petunialuthuli8267
    @petunialuthuli82679 ай бұрын

    I like Nxumalos questioning style.

  • @lindenimasuku7386

    @lindenimasuku7386

    9 ай бұрын

    He is also cool in this nerve-wracking job.

  • @sylvestermthembu

    @sylvestermthembu

    9 ай бұрын

    His lines r short n incriminating soft n sweet but poking holes

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    But this judge is interfering with the process,must we not voice our anger because we gonna be threatened by shut down,not fare KZread

  • @aneshsukdeo1960
    @aneshsukdeo19609 ай бұрын

    If these intruders shot the deceased in a struggle has suggested by the state witnesses; the empty bullet or splint bullet found on top of the carboard, is nonsence because this empty cartridges would have fell about 20 to 50 minutes from the shooting on the floor and not on the carboard

  • @konkehwanqa6260

    @konkehwanqa6260

    9 ай бұрын

    That's what the defence should ask actually..

  • @lwandilewillard7146
    @lwandilewillard71469 ай бұрын

    Can this judge let the wetness answer the questions.

  • @Tshegofatso1994
    @Tshegofatso19949 ай бұрын

    If the judge would call for case 375, then you'll see the gun story will change. No one wants to go to jail

  • @SonOfTheSoil834
    @SonOfTheSoil8349 ай бұрын

    May this lawyers milk the money of this bustard ,proven and proud killers until this competent judge sent them for life sentence together with whoever hired them 🙏🏽🙏🏽it can’t be a norm that such people are being protected .

  • @zodwafakudze183

    @zodwafakudze183

    9 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately these thugs did not kill Senzo, they were pinned to this crime shielding Longwe Twala son to Chicco. Hence Kelly called Chicco n never called the police nor the ambulance, afterSenzo was shot by Longwe on arrival in the house finding the friends of Senzo n Senzo with her girlfriend Zandi, who gone mute for the weekend

  • @rita_TM

    @rita_TM

    9 ай бұрын

    No one is protecting the accused, the evidence against them is very questionable even the judge can’t help the state here. They literally haven’t connected any of these guys without reasonable doubt to the killing of Senzo.

  • @dipuoviola7491

    @dipuoviola7491

    9 ай бұрын

    I don’t think the defence would go this far if they were guilty, nna to me everything just don’t make sense from the beginning when Senzo was short

  • @Vuyisani

    @Vuyisani

    9 ай бұрын

    @@zodwafakudze183 it could be possible Senzo died the way the witnesses say he died, with intruders... it is also possible that the people on trial are not Senzo's killers and that the police found random people to blame... it is also possible that your version is correct. That is why we have a trial. But in my opinion I just have one question, if the accused all say they were not there, why are they arguing how Senzo died? why are they trying to solve this case... they must just argue their lack of presence at the scene, accused 3 he should just bring to light how he came in possession of the gun, got it in KZN, from who, when? if i was the judged i would be annoyed with this haphazard defence

  • @SonOfTheSoil834

    @SonOfTheSoil834

    9 ай бұрын

    @@zodwafakudze183 I wonder what is your level of education .we all had this thoughts at the beginning but with this evidance in front of us things are getting clear ..when was this big story of your created ?can you explain the phone records link ,the pictures of same gun “my killing machine “ taken a day before killing of senzo found in accused no 3 phone ?same gun he was charged with for another case of Alexander ,same gun found in his house .can you explain you sturbon ordinary person..what we should be asking ourself is why is Kelly not with those guys there as accused not what you saying …if courts whr working with this imaginary thoughts of yours instead of material evidance I guess justice system would have been so terrible like you are

  • @skhumbuzompungose1208
    @skhumbuzompungose12089 ай бұрын

    King of the judicial ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ntombehlubinelani8781
    @ntombehlubinelani87819 ай бұрын

    Mr Ratha If ppl in the house are innocent Who killed Senzo ?

  • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
    @ntombikaysedanisa86459 ай бұрын

    I think he is a brilliant person and it comes with experience cause he listens and never forget what was said. Big up to him. He tells it as he sees it without any favour's or fears. I think that is what we want from this case, to get to the bottom of this case. The lawyers are doing their jobs to free their clients regardless of the information that is before them.

  • @WillofHopefarmers

    @WillofHopefarmers

    9 ай бұрын

    I fully agree just that we as viewers have our own theories that clouds our judgements and end up thinking the judge is biased or protecting the witness we just have to be patient cause no one knows what truly happened

  • @Lovetvsa

    @Lovetvsa

    9 ай бұрын

    I loved forensics but unfortunately I had to say goodbye because saps became so corrupt and senior officials would steal the exhibit from the crime scene to save the suspect and protect their payroll from gangsters , it's tough in Capetown area guys tjoo. But atleast I still have my life.

  • @hanspretorius4019

    @hanspretorius4019

    9 ай бұрын

    Housewife

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    True

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@WillofHopefarmers uqinisile people are not partial and want to hear what they want to hear to favour their theory. Any thing else they say a person is bought

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    18 and 10 what happened to two cause now there's 16 according to Mangena

  • @trustyguriras9607
    @trustyguriras96079 ай бұрын

    To carry the exhibit to home its also unprocedural and the misduct and very obviousto be tempered with, adv mnisi ur a brilliant lawyer

  • @barnettchirwa8209
    @barnettchirwa82099 ай бұрын

    I hear another witness on the bench adding on to the witness in the box

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    We gonna need a VAR in this match

  • @grecnioncarolus1531
    @grecnioncarolus15319 ай бұрын

    This judge wanna be a lawyer, witness, expert and a judge at the very same time. Slimgat

  • @Boikanyo_M
    @Boikanyo_M9 ай бұрын

    The judge is brilliant but he seems to be agitated easily he should try to compose emotionally.

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    People who are brilliant like this judge unfortunately are allergic to stupidity and tend to be short tempered in the presence of people who dnt make sense. It takes a lot for them to keep silent, not get irritatated and watch advocates fumble, waste the courts time and state money - we are now paying for the defense as taxpayers.

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    Mshololo the great one mthathe

  • @smangelengubane8181
    @smangelengubane81819 ай бұрын

    No man I want advocate Mshololo 👌👌👌👌👌

  • @abriancupido1603
    @abriancupido16039 ай бұрын

    The judge tried to disprove the fact that argument by die defence that the barrel are interchangeable with his last question saying anyone cant just change the barrel. Point is the police can. The lawyers to dumb to challenge him on that and he think he won the point and disproved. Someone please ask the defense to look at public comments to assist with their questioning

  • @mthokozisilanga4497

    @mthokozisilanga4497

    9 ай бұрын

    This judge is something else, when the witnesses claim that police wrote what they did not say, he believed them, I remember when he defended a witness against the defence he stated himself as a judge that “you know our police moss”. Meaning that the police are compromised, but now that the very same police are testifying he supports and believe them, he no longer knows our police moss. This is an inconsistancy on part of the judge.

  • @Zulomnyama.

    @Zulomnyama.

    9 ай бұрын

    When you are told to achieve a certain kind of results.you.control the narrative to make sure it doesnt derail from your expected results.

  • @barnettchirwa8209
    @barnettchirwa82099 ай бұрын

    My Lord is caught between two horns on the possibility of changing Barrell on the gun,

  • @phethedimatji5147
    @phethedimatji51479 ай бұрын

    So information being revealed about the barrel here to criminals is that, they can use a barrel for killing and change it for a clean barrel so that when they get cough the gun would be clean.

  • @SiyabongaButhelezi-lf3xo

    @SiyabongaButhelezi-lf3xo

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂true indeed very informative case this 1

  • @Thabzalzk
    @Thabzalzk9 ай бұрын

    Why are they able to cross-examine Roelofse who is a Ballistics expert but need their own expert to examine Mangena. Time wasting in my view

  • @Itumeleng20791
    @Itumeleng207919 ай бұрын

    Even maggie could have picked it up and threw it on the sink while cleaning.

  • @luckyndlovu2926

    @luckyndlovu2926

    9 ай бұрын

    Or the uncle since he's or was the police officer.

  • @MartinVilakazi-ft9de
    @MartinVilakazi-ft9de9 ай бұрын

    His judge he already made his judgment a long time ago, and he undermined the defense team

  • @bonieybiyela1346
    @bonieybiyela13469 ай бұрын

    No sound ke today

  • @shimaneledwaba6346

    @shimaneledwaba6346

    9 ай бұрын

    No sound

  • @nkatekofaith5857

    @nkatekofaith5857

    9 ай бұрын

    I thought my phone have problem

  • @aneshsukdeo1960
    @aneshsukdeo19609 ай бұрын

    Wrong question; it should have been like this; the correct procedure in the saps; the investigating officer must book the exhibit out in the saps 13 and hand it over to the ballistic administrative department for analysis and not the way magena went about fetching the expert; has to be viewed with jaundice eye

  • @lettiemobe2475
    @lettiemobe24759 ай бұрын

    Mangena, bring back the bullets😢😢😢😅😅😅

  • @kedibonekgomo671
    @kedibonekgomo6719 ай бұрын

    I've never seen such an intervention like this by the judge in courts that i attended i wonder if the afri forum is looking at this,if so let them plz intervene and call the judge to order.we are tired of him

  • @mandlajnrgmail.youresomadi5267

    @mandlajnrgmail.youresomadi5267

    9 ай бұрын

    True indeed

  • @RomeoRidge-ny6xh
    @RomeoRidge-ny6xh9 ай бұрын

    It's surprising ukuthi icala liyathethwa ngamanga lize liyophela

  • @phethedimatji5147

    @phethedimatji5147

    9 ай бұрын

    Very sad

  • @busisiweshezi9297
    @busisiweshezi92978 ай бұрын

    Sanibona bahlali benkantolo yomphakathi # Justice for Senzo Meyiwa family and children

  • @nkosinathinu6182
    @nkosinathinu61829 ай бұрын

    You know why they don't found the catrige it's because Longwe came with the 38 pistol so if u knows 38 pistol how it's works

  • @luckyndlovu2926

    @luckyndlovu2926

    9 ай бұрын

    What is required to buy bullets for a gun?

  • @lwandileradebe7028
    @lwandileradebe70289 ай бұрын

    No sound this side, maybe its becouse of the tv license😢

  • @snathamanzinyezi8676
    @snathamanzinyezi86769 ай бұрын

    Haibo u judge

  • @AneleNkosiyane-wp4ws
    @AneleNkosiyane-wp4ws9 ай бұрын

    THIS RETHA JUDGE IS FULL OF NONSENSE SHAME. HE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. HE IS AGAINST THE DEFENSE TEAM. HE HAS CLEARLY MADE UP HIS MIND THAT HE WANTS THE DEFENSE TEAM TO LOSE. HE IS FULL OF NONSENSE. #RATHA_MUST_FALL

  • @sushelarajkumar367

    @sushelarajkumar367

    9 ай бұрын

    RATHA IS CORRUPT YOH SHOCKING HE HAS NO RIGHTS TO MOCK/SHAME AND EMBARRASS THE DEFENSE NONE WHATSOEVER

  • @phumzagalada6263

    @phumzagalada6263

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree with you he must fall uyanginyanyisa nxa

  • @aneshsukdeo1960
    @aneshsukdeo19609 ай бұрын

    Compare the pathologists evidence when he said on his own version that the shooting occurred from top to bottom, logic will tell you that the empty cartridge would have felll down next to the deceased about 20 and 50 metres and not on top of a carboard

  • @botanamahlaba7252

    @botanamahlaba7252

    9 ай бұрын

    Do you know difference between cartridge and projetile?

  • @baloyicraig339

    @baloyicraig339

    9 ай бұрын

    Obviously he made mistake he's talking about the project tile exiting the victim i tear his lungs going down.. so why exit and be on top

  • @XolileNene

    @XolileNene

    9 ай бұрын

    I am already surprised by his behavior 😢

  • @user-or6yg2jr4f
    @user-or6yg2jr4f9 ай бұрын

    Advocates are humbled 😂😅

  • @vusishongwe5617

    @vusishongwe5617

    9 ай бұрын

    Too much

  • @hlazo1
    @hlazo19 ай бұрын

    Why does he have to reply for witness nxaa

  • @sushelarajkumar367

    @sushelarajkumar367

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes yes yes

  • @Zulomnyama.
    @Zulomnyama.9 ай бұрын

    Who choose and reactivated a retired judge and why specifically him out of all others current active and retired...i used to see these things happening in the movies...never knew i will see one in my lifetime...

  • @lettiemobe2475
    @lettiemobe24759 ай бұрын

    The witnesses always protect and cover each other, criminals police😂

  • @TheLan70
    @TheLan709 ай бұрын

    Who is the witness

  • @KhurishiNgwato
    @KhurishiNgwato9 ай бұрын

    The defence lawyers misfires

  • @krishnareddy4423
    @krishnareddy44239 ай бұрын

    The other day the ballistic expert mentioned that the one type of bullet was a police or military training item.The defense ought to have questioned as to where did they get the bullets from.

  • @Cybersecurty_world

    @Cybersecurty_world

    9 ай бұрын

    True

  • @abriancupido1603

    @abriancupido1603

    9 ай бұрын

    They dont know how to ask the right questions

  • @thuts77

    @thuts77

    9 ай бұрын

    They did ask you were not listening attentively

  • @musiclyrics8865
    @musiclyrics88659 ай бұрын

    My Lord is smiling when Adv Mshololo asks about the burell...I guess he loves that question lool

  • @nette2144
    @nette21449 ай бұрын

    This judge bafethu….yoh yoh

  • @magamanevincent6788
    @magamanevincent67889 ай бұрын

    Guys can you pls educate me cos I'm lost... What is the criteria that is used in terms of calling the witnesses?.. Previously Baloyi called people from the house including some neighbors and suddenly he calls police officers and girlfriend,, what are they hiding?? We need Longwe, Maphiri, Makhumalo, uMalume and Kelly

  • @magamanevincent6788

    @magamanevincent6788

    9 ай бұрын

    @@estheruthmk2494 OK thanks for the clarity 🙏

  • @phumzilegumbi205
    @phumzilegumbi2059 ай бұрын

    Usekhona ugogujaji, kudala ngigcinile ukulandela le case 636, ngilinde u375 Mina.

  • @rita_TM
    @rita_TM9 ай бұрын

    Yoh where is Mr Jonas

  • @thokomasondo9687
    @thokomasondo96879 ай бұрын

    Mr Ratha to the defence ?not make sure

  • @luckyndlovu2926

    @luckyndlovu2926

    9 ай бұрын

    He's very emotional.

  • @kedibonekgomo671
    @kedibonekgomo6719 ай бұрын

    Where did the police take to the box of bullets they found on top of the walldrobe of the accused no 3?what did they do with them?

  • @sisiemvenda752
    @sisiemvenda7529 ай бұрын

    Kant SABC lani selitholile envelope yini akula sound ekuqaleni

  • @gabisiledladla4404

    @gabisiledladla4404

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @ndubanesol111
    @ndubanesol1119 ай бұрын

    Nxumalo agrees there are exceptions, but are those exceptions of mot sealing acceptable and or within the specific SANS standards? How do you accet nonsense without questioning, maybe is a strategy.

  • @tinyikondobe3377
    @tinyikondobe33779 ай бұрын

    Expert Witness schooling those attorneys.

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    I love it viva ❤

  • @mxolisimsibi9885
    @mxolisimsibi98859 ай бұрын

    My Lord he asked firearms control act 60 of 2000 question1 of legal test 👌

  • @user-or6yg2jr4f
    @user-or6yg2jr4f9 ай бұрын

    Ramosipile should be mentored by advocate mnisi and mshololo just for a period of 1 year

  • @luckyndlovu2926

    @luckyndlovu2926

    9 ай бұрын

    Nxumalo needs that training too.

  • @Mpume-jl9hz
    @Mpume-jl9hz9 ай бұрын

    Ratha Ratha Ratha pleeeaaze relax and listen. Your time to make a verdict will come, why you making it obvious. You are such a bore🥱😭

  • @nkanyisomajola8820
    @nkanyisomajola88209 ай бұрын

    My Judge 💪🏿

  • @ayandayaya8910
    @ayandayaya89109 ай бұрын

    Is this witness Mangena?

  • @NtsikiNkosi
    @NtsikiNkosi9 ай бұрын

    La kunobandlululo lokuthi Kzn n Gauteng,uzwa ngojaji wakhona,kwalengane ithwele icala engalazi ngoba isuka e kzn lokho kuchazwa inkulumo yejaji

  • @NtsikiNkosi
    @NtsikiNkosi9 ай бұрын

    Inkinga uMangena mesefikila uyakhwishiza akhulume I English kudidekwe ,thereafter kuvele inqwba yamaquestions okumele awaphendule!akabuywe asho ukuth y 16 instead of 18 cause awokutesta nithe niyanikwa eceleni

  • @qiniselahlangu-in2tz
    @qiniselahlangu-in2tz9 ай бұрын

    Lo judge unamasimbha

  • @dipuoviola7491
    @dipuoviola74919 ай бұрын

    What if judge want all these witnesses to incriminate themselves

  • @NtsikiNkosi
    @NtsikiNkosi9 ай бұрын

    Ngeke sisho ukuth kusaseyiso isbhamu,cause exibitbags are received open so we can not say ,we do not know ,infact it is not the same firearm

  • @dipuoviola7491
    @dipuoviola74919 ай бұрын

    I’m interested to know why Ramosepele is demanding the accused bank statement

  • @tebogoletsogo8743

    @tebogoletsogo8743

    9 ай бұрын

    The accused said that he was back home on that day to pay lobola, he even withdrew money the same day to go pay lobola.

  • @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    @therealmncwanegwabeni7263

    9 ай бұрын

    One witness claims he was in Rustenberg on the day and withdrew money that day. The bank statement is an alibi. Another said he was home in KZN paying lobolo or something like that. Hence I dnt understand why Sipho, Nxumalo and Mshololo want to get involved is bringing a ballistic expert witness at a cost when only Mnisi's client is linked to the gun and was found with it. They need to sit somethings out honestly and let Mnisi defend his client.

  • @thandikhosa7489

    @thandikhosa7489

    9 ай бұрын

    He once said tge accused was not in jo'burg the tie of Senzo's death. His statement will prove that he witthdrew money from durban on that day.

  • @goodmanmthiyane5611
    @goodmanmthiyane56119 ай бұрын

    Me i listen very carefully,my foot, you siding you you thing

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