Wouldnt this theory be proved/falsified by killing her and observing whether the letters stop coming in?

@TheBlackRose3

Жыл бұрын

Good question. The answer is no. Keep in mind that Bethesda can't take everything that the player can do into account. Especially for mysteries, bc that can make them too easy to solve. Let's say Bethesda did mark Karita as essential, that's not something they do for most NPCs. So, that would draw a huge amount of attention to her, thus this mystery would've been solved many years ago. So, Bethesda has to be careful about things like that to keep mysteries engaging, and lots of ideas for clues don't make it into the game for that reason. For example, in "Is the Sole Survivor a Synth" I mentioned a cut terminal entry called "Unique Project," which I suspect was cut bc it's way too obvious of a clue for that mystery. I'm surprised it even made it into the game files, normally they'd nix an idea like that before ever actually making it. Thank you for watching! 😄

@megamax898

Жыл бұрын

Only if Kyne say's "You know what, screw this dragonborn! What a monster!"

@mehdil4918

Жыл бұрын

Not really, some characters are known to send hired thugs to you even after their death

@jeremybenge6690

Жыл бұрын

After watching this video I checked on both the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Page and the Famdom Page, and both say that the class of Karita (Pilgirm) is Warrior. For those who don't know, in the Nordic Pantheon Kyne is Known as the "Kiss at the End", goddes of Storm and most importatnly the WARRIOR-widdow to Shor. Also I'm going to play Skyrim (I started this a new playthrough this week) and will see if there is a differcance inmy playthroughs considerring that I paly modded skyrim. Juat to be on the safe side. I will eddit this coment after I checkt. (2nd editd shortent) I did chek BTW and she did have every thing on her, just the circlet and amulet of talos didn't show in her inventory. But she you could the the amulet of talos and the Gold Emerald circlet on her.

@conner8319

Жыл бұрын

You tend to get goons hired by dead people at times too, but that's assuming that this isn't a lesser aspect of Kyne or something

The friend is clearly the courier. He always knows where you are, never attacks you, and will run across bandit infested areas to simply give you a letter.

@mansterj

11 ай бұрын

I like to think he's the courier from New Vegas who got Isekaid into Skyrim to assist the Dragonborn.

@rileymiller3154

11 ай бұрын

Nah the courier is literally a God character I mean he just poops up out of thin air just to give you your mail

@rhondaray6488

11 ай бұрын

I've been looking for you...says the courier. If he's been trying to find you then he doesn't know where you are at all times.

@Muis33

11 ай бұрын

​@@mansterjIf only the courier hadn't lost their Power Armor and gauss rifle... Imagine how much help they'd have been! Altough, they'd probably run out of FC's and ammo pretty quickly...

@Alizz1187

2 ай бұрын

Nah, the courier is definitely Akatosh in disguise

It's worth bring up that Mara had a appearance back in morrwind where she appeared as a normal imperial women stuck in a cave with monsters if you give her a scroll she will disappear and give you a skirt of Mara So gods pretending to be human isn't a new idea in elder scrolls

@radwolf76

Жыл бұрын

Also Wulf and his Old Man's Lucky Coin, actually Tiber Septim (Talos).

@howtodelete3717

Жыл бұрын

@@radwolf76 what game was that?

@Draco19977

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@howtodelete3717Morrowind , by the ghostgate when you’re on your way to beat the main game

@radwolf76

Жыл бұрын

@@howtodelete3717 @Draco19977 has it, Morrowind. He shows up at Ghostgate after you get the Wraithguard from Vivec but before you defeat Dagoth Ur. (Not sure if he shows up or not if you get the Wraithguard by the backpath.)

@advocatusdiaboli9971

Жыл бұрын

@@radwolf76 The things you miss if you just always fly over the fence and to the mountain at the end -.-

I always thought it was the Ebony Warrior sending the letters. Method: He knows the Thuum, so he could easily tell you where he found the words he knows, and maybe some others he didn’t learn. Motive: He not only wants an honorable battle with you, he wants you to kill him so he can go to Sovngarde. To achieve both those goals, he would want you to be as strong as possible. Logic: In a no-cheating playthrough, you would normally have learned every word there is to learn by the time you reach level 80, which is when the Ebony Warrior approaches you, therefore, his death would not influence the letters since, at that point, there would be no letters to send anyway.

@Jaymo00

11 ай бұрын

Good points. And Ebony warrior also says that he has “done all that can be done”, so very likely has gone exploring across skyrim and seen all the word walls, but just cannot gain their powers.

@andresgarduno6830

11 ай бұрын

​@@Jaymo00this makes sense and lines up with the in game lore of only the dragonborn being able to learn new shouts with ease while everyone elee has to meditate for long periods of time

@VidelxSpopovich

11 ай бұрын

Big problem is that the Ebony Warrior is a Redguard and I don’t make friends with brown people. He is not my friend…. Jokes aside the letters assume only the Dragonborn can unlock the words, so it can’t be the Ebony Warrior.

@lousygaming8220

11 ай бұрын

@@VidelxSpopovich I said he could also tell you about words he didn’t learn

@fburnsDubstepEnderFox

11 ай бұрын

​@@VidelxSpopovichWhat's wrong with brown people? 😮

Now I'm wondering whether or not having an amulet of mara when you speak to her will trigger a marriage option

@antivaxxasaurus

Жыл бұрын

Me when I twist my balls

@wolf-war-master

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't, Karita isn't tagged in the game files as marriage abled

@liamdealmeida9914

Жыл бұрын

Sincerely, More Than A Friend PS. Could you drop by Belethor and get some groceries, we need: - Elves Ear - Pheasant Breast - Frost Mirriam - A Jug of Milk - And Fire Salts, NOT Frost Salts, like you got last time

@bryncollier7120

Жыл бұрын

With some marriage mods, it's possible. However karita will not appear after the ceremony.

@jd8269

Жыл бұрын

​@@bryncollier7120Good to know, I was about to try that

Not entirely sold on Karita being A Friend, but you did open me up to the aspect of Kyne idea and I gotta say I’m pretty convinced of that. I remember encountering Karita on one of my first playthroughs and I’ve been curious ever since, especially why she disappears and only shows up during the greybeard quest. The fact she wore a circlet seemed important; NPCs generally don’t wear those unless they’re nobility or the like, and it could be symbolic of her divine status. If this is all true, then Karita and the Voice of Kyne reward from the tablets (note the statue of Talos at the final tablet) near perfectly mirrors the aspect of Talos NPC from Morrowind. The fact that both these NPCs also “manifest” at World Towers could also support this theory.

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes

Жыл бұрын

While I agree with the points you made, the Towers bit, less so, as Zenithar's and Mara's avatars/aspects (who also are in Morrowind) aren't near the Red Mountain.

@a.j.carter2294

Жыл бұрын

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes Fair enough, but at least in the context of Kyne it’s fitting, as she is the Divine most closely associated with the Snow Tower.

I've seen a lot of theories - Delphine (she her letter from the horn was adressed with "a friend") - Paarthurnax and the greybeards - Sheogorath (having fun in his weird ways and because it would never be weird to have Sheogorath, the whole madness thing) - the Dragonborn themselves from the future - Hermaeus Mora (training a new dragonborn to replace Miraak) - the Ebony Warrior (to get a proper fight) - the courier - a bunch of unrelated people who just happen to write the same kind of letter

@zombieblaster5754

11 ай бұрын

miraak was added in a DLC so any theory regarding him is wrong. the ebony warrior was also added later so that doesnt work either.

@cv8167

11 ай бұрын

I personally always figured it was Talos himself sending the letters.

@zombieblaster5754

11 ай бұрын

@@cv8167 skyrims hero seeing that it needs a new hero in times of crisis and knowing youre the guy for the job. I like it.

@ariabritton9669

3 ай бұрын

it's most likely delphine. she would sign the letters as "a friend" so that the thalmor wouldn't know who to look for.

@facelessnameless

Ай бұрын

@@ariabritton9669 why wouldn’t she just talk to you at sky haven temple l

When you fight mirmulnir, the guard inside the tower says "Kynereth save us, here he comes again, he also uses the nord voice.

Klemek or whatever his name is might be the middle man. He is the only person to frequently go up the mountain. Has more respect for the graybeards than anyone in my opinion. He goes all the way up there. To deliver food and supplies for nothing in return and has never even seen the graybeards. I'd imagine the mountain of Kyne wouldn't kill Kyne. Is basically her shine. He had probably noticed her there never leaving and there for knew she is a supernatural entity

Damn, I wonder if there are incarnations of other divines in the game and if so, who? Karita disappearing like the wind is also a bonus point.

@ragingfurball5419

Жыл бұрын

I remember that Talos shows up in the guise of an Imperial soldier in Morrowind. It's only briefly, while the player is heading up Red Mountain to take on Dagoth Ur. He'll give a 'lucky coin' to the player, then disappears forever. That appearance could be what influenced Bethesda to do something similar for Skyrim.

@O-D-X

Жыл бұрын

@@ragingfurball5419 This is likely the most compelling evidence, as it shows a pattern of development by Bethesda.

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes

Жыл бұрын

@@ragingfurball5419 Wulf is also hardly the only one that appears; Ana Nin and Jon Hawker are Mara and Zenithar respective, and disappear after quests relating to them are completed. The person that tells you who Wulf is also tells you who Ana Nin is, while Jon Hawker gives you hard evidence himself of who he is.

@mobiusdick6225

Жыл бұрын

I don't think her disappearing is much of anything. Obviously she would finish her pilgrimage and leave or something. Honestly, it would make more sense for them to keep her there if she were a god, wouldn't it?

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes

Жыл бұрын

@@mobiusdick6225 Other mortal aspects of the Aedra have shown up in games and disappear after interacting with the player or after a quest relevant to them. Karita disappearing isn't out of the realm of possibly because of that. If anything, this theory just weakens the theory that the Ebony Warrior is Ebonarm.

The answer is Farengar. He's male, a "friend" by Skyrim standards, and he clues you in by writing the word with a capital F. The anonymity can be explained by the persecution the Blades (and anyone associated with them) are suffering. Ironically he wears a cloak and carries a dagger. He also conducts research on dragon history and the dragonstone, so it's not that farfetched to imagine he knows about word walls and some of their locations.

I am definitely sold on Karita being Kyne, but not as certain that she's sending the letters. She may just have wanted a glimpse of you and placed herself on the mountain as you climb. Great video all round though, thanks for sharing an interesting theory.

While I do agree that these hints can point towards Karita being Kyne, I think there are way more likely reasons for all the hints you mentioned: - First of all it seems very much you arrived at this conclusion because you were looking for „Who is the „A Friend“ person that writes all of these letters about Dragon word walls. This can be a source for false conclusions, because just like „When you have a hammer everything starts to look like a Nail.“ When you are looking for a specific conclusion, everything starts to hint at this conclusion. - She is presented as a Pilgrim of probably the most tiring Pilgrimage location in all of Tamriel. So she is pretty dedicated. And this pilgrimage is very much about the history of the Nords (the shrines tell the story of the first rebellion against the dragons). - So her having books about other Parts of Nord history only shows that she is interested in history. If I wanted to hint at Karita being Kyne I would not choose books that perfectly fit with her persona of being a Nord Pilgrim. - Same thing goes for her Name, it is not a direct link to Kyne by for example translating to Wind/Strom, Warrior-Wife, Mother of Men , … but instead only links to a very indirect role she has in relation to Shor. Beloved also fits as a Name simply given by loving parents, to Dibella (fits also better for her), Mara (fits better to her as well), … and seems again like an odd choice if you wanted to hint at an NPC being Kyne. So I liked this video and your conclusion I just think you could have reached a more convincing one by asking: Is there a simpler solution as to why this would be here? and If I had to job to hint at this conclusion, would I do the same? If the first one is no and the second one is yes, then you have a strong case for your hint being what you think it is.

@choerm

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, Occam's Razor and all that. There's just too much wishful thinking here.

@velraven8944

Жыл бұрын

The patron god for pilgrims is very specifically Kyne, it is directly a part of the worship of Kyne to travel the world as a Pilgrim. Her being such a dedicated pilgrim is actually a point in support of the theory.

@amazinghorizon8270

Жыл бұрын

@@velraven8944 Uh no? That is a point against her being Kyne. Because if every Pilgrim has stuff that points to Kyne it means that she is even more likely a normal Pilgrim, because she doesn‘t even standout from the other Pilgrims. And how likely is it that a normal Pilgrim is a God? While a Pilgrim that does standout from other Pilgrims and has clear hints at being a God, is way more likely actually a God. So if her inventory, Name, knowledge, … are all completely normal for a Pilgrim, why should she Kyne? But if her inventory, Name, knowledge, … are not common for a Pilgrim, wouldn‘t that point way more strongly at her being something else than a normal Pilgrim?

@velraven8944

Жыл бұрын

​@@amazinghorizon8270 I didn't say anything about her makes her more likely to be just a normal pilgrim, she's far from normal, I just said Kyne is directly tied to pilgrims, in response to you claiming that she, being a PILGRIM at Kyne's mountain with books that involve Kyne in relation to the Shezzarine, somehow makes her more related to Dibella or Mara. That's nonsensical, why would she have more in common with Dibella or Mara by her entire personality being tied to Kynareth? What does she have to do with either of those divines anyway? She's not offering love or pleasure, she doesn't heal you, she doesn't offer you charity, what do either of those divines have to do with her characterization in any shape or form? Further, it makes no sense to assert that a character embodying the nature of their patron god makes them less likely to be that patron god? If you see a man babbling about cheese and turning everyone around him into various random animals, that makes it MORE likely you're looking at Sheogorath, not less. If you met an old man with a staff and one eye wandering from town to town, that doesn't mean "well, I can definitely rule out that this guy is Odin, he's acting WAY too much like Odin would!"

@O-D-X

Жыл бұрын

@@amazinghorizon8270 "if Karita had a peaceful Bear lying next to her or a Pack of Wolves protecting her, … or if in the Creation Kit she would be allied with all Animals like a Spriggan, then yes she does embody Kyne" Well here is the thing, where you meet Karita on the path is after you have been attacked by several wild animals. How did an ordinary pilgrim just pass these aggressive animals without being attacked. Not saying this confirms anything, but your theory starts to fall apart, too. So don't be so quick to judge. My own personal opinion is that Karita is not Kyne, but that Kyne does work through her directly as opposed to the way priestesses interact with the Aedra, meaning Karita could be writing the letters for Kyne.

Great video! Sincerely, A Friend

Delphine's anonymity isn't an issue its a solution, She is a blade, the blades are being hunted by the Thalmor. A known blade signing a letter with their name is a bad idea, hence the anonymity. So Delphine stays the most likely cantidate.

@letsdothisshiat1162

Жыл бұрын

That's what I thought I think most fans are making this more complicated than it needs to be, the most simple theory is usually the right one

@rickastley4993

Жыл бұрын

The only problem with this is that you can get letters from a friend that mention places outside of Mundus such as the realms of Oblivion. Delphine would have no way of knowing that.

@RalorPenwat

Жыл бұрын

​@rickastley4993 Widely this is regarded as a bug because it mentions causing a stir even in places with nobody around.

@p3chv0gel22

Жыл бұрын

But there is still the "Why not tell the Dragonborn directly?" part. I mean, we can ask Arngeir about word walls, so why not Delphine, if she really knows the Location of those

@tricketman7423

Жыл бұрын

@@p3chv0gel22 In game explanation could be that she discovers words of power walls by gathering information and then sends you a letter about the location. She dosent tell you about shouts directly because she is looking for shouts like you do and tries to give you info as fast as posible. Dragonborn is a busy guy who may not visit delphine for long periods of time. Its makes sense for her to send letters, to make sure her info reaches you while you are traveling the land

Personally I assumed it was possibly the Ebony Warrior, as he seeks a foe with potential to be stronger than himself and a full strength Dragonborn well could be that final challenge. Never something I put an ounce of thought into tho. Interesting theories all around on this channel, always a good time and better thought out than my passing assumptions

@kingaoxmer643

Жыл бұрын

That could also explain the lack of given identity as the Ebony Warrior’s true name is a mystery as well.

No one will ever convince me that the sender is anyone other than Akatosh himself. You can receive a "letter from a friend" after using a thu'um way out in the wilderness, or in the depths of Blackreach, or on the top of Hvitkald Peak, with literally no one else around -- no witnesses. How is that possible unless the sender has some god-like ability to know exactly where you are and what you're doing? And who has the most vested interest in making sure the Dragonborn becomes stronger? For me, I will always believe it's Akatosh.

@Tracker947

11 ай бұрын

You can literally hear the Greybeards fron across the country when they call for the Dragonborn. Shouts are probably just hella loud

@lauracraig6507

11 ай бұрын

@@Tracker947, fair point, but pin-pointing exactly where it's echoing from? Much more difficult, and the letters are always very specific: "You caused a bit of a stir when you used your thu'um at XYZ location..." Especially when there's no one around. It's like the tree falling in the forest.

Love the video! I've always looked at Karita and wondered what story there was there. I went looking online for any theories anyone had come up with but found nothing. No one really seemed to care about Karita, but I'm glad you did!

I can't say I'm convinced, but I do appreciate the detective work. Karita being an avatar of Kyne/Kynereth certainly is interesting, and while I don't think it's the case literally speaking, I can buy that the character might have been inserted with the intention to nudge the attentive player or someone interested in RP into thinking of the goddess in an immersive way at least. In that regard, she is, in a way, an avatar of a divine... It can't be denied that she was put in the player's path with only matters of Nordic faith to consider.

The sender is just the courier himself. He is just sick of having to run around extra to avoid dragons. Hes practically been everywhere and hears rumors all the time so he knows where the words of power are. He has to anonymous because if he just told the dragonborn it would be a breach of duty as a courier to share information that wasn't his to share.

I am surprised that you didn't mention the boon attached to visiting every shrine of etched tablets, Voice of the Sky. This power gives the benefit of animals not attacking you for a period of time and can be regained by visiting every shrine going up or down whenever you want it. Sky and animals, must be Kyne I think. This was something I actually thought years ago so glad someone else thinks it too. 👍🇬🇧

@TheBlackRose3

Жыл бұрын

I decided that it didn't really add anything that acknowledging that the Throat of the World is "Kynareth's Sacred Mountain" didn't. But that is a good point! Thanks for bringing it up 😄

@kimwilson3863

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlackRose3 Voth kogaan zeymah. 👍🇬🇧

I remember in Morrowind before entering ghost gate to climb red mountain with the tools. There is an avatar of Tiber Septim named Wulf you can meet only briefly in this same way.

Absolutely phenomenal video. Topic touched on perfectly with your supporting details being given clearly and also being engaging. I'm a sucker for new, fresh, and solid ES theories/themes/etc. Effortlessly earned a subscription my dude. Keep up the awesome work!

So it's not Delphine because she signed a letter differently than how she signed a note, but it's Karita because she might somehow be the godess Kyne in disguise. Gotcha.

@meli4535

11 ай бұрын

I don't know about the kynareth thing but I don't think it's delphine. Delphine asks you to prove you're dragonborn later in the game and you can receive the letter before that.

@hmmmooops

11 ай бұрын

@@meli4535 That's a valid arguement. I imagined that Bethesda set it up so that you'd get mysterious letters from "A friend" and then in the Horn quest you'd find who that mysterious person was, but it ended up being ruined by the way that they made the MSQ have no breaks and feel so urgent.

I've seen so many theories on the the "Friend" and yours is one of the more original, I really like it

I think this theory is compelling, but there's a small flaw. The reason she disappears after the Way of the Voice quest is probably just because she only makes the trip up the Throat of the World occasionally, and just happens to leave while you're at High Hrothgar. She literally says she only makes the trip every few weeks as one of her 3 lines of dialogue.

Always warms up my heart whenever I see somebody still uploading Skyrim content ❤

Makes sense to me. I've watched numerous lore related videos on Skyrim and you covered the points one could bring up about "the friend". Very convincing.

Finally, a Skyrim theory video that actually makes sense and presents something new! Subscribed.

After all these years.. I honestly think this makes the most sense. you explained it so logically and even if it isnt her...this discovery alone is so crazy dude. props! im subbin

You may be correct that Karita is Kyne personified. But I think the letter sender that hires the courier, the “He” in “He didn’t say” is Klimmek. That’s the guy who quests you to deliver food to the Greybeards. I’m thinking he is a middleman for middleman Argneir who represents Paarthunaax. P is a dragon and has a network of dragons on his side to help him easily talk to dragons and thus find all the word walls guarded by dragons.

@TheBlackRose3

11 ай бұрын

Very keen my friend 🧐. I did consider that Klimmek could be the middle man for the Dragons, Greybeards, or Kyne. But I decided it wasn't worth putting in the video bc I think that the couriers would have more info if he was the person giving them the letters. They'd at least know that he lives in Ivarstead, so why not tell us that? Though you may be right, he could absolutely be Karita's middleman. I'm just not convinced enough of it to have put it in the video.

Great vid, keep em coming!

For Karita to be Kyne makes sense to me, and her just disappearing makes sense too. For there's two times in which i think Kyne interferes in the path of the dragonborn. When we accept the help of Maurice Jondrele during the gildergreen quest, bro simply vanishes and the sampling appears exactly where he was. Since Kyne is the goddess of nature, it would perfect fit for her to protect it. (Since the other way to end this quest results in harming the tree) What prevents kyne from impersonating this other character? (As a way to protect gildergreen) It is worth mentioning that he is also a pilgrim just like Karita. Of course this isn't a way to make the dragonborn more powerful as the theorie of the video ended, but this event made me think.

This makes even more sense, if you remember that the Graybeards themselves call High Hrothgar the "blessed mountain of Kynareth". Makes sense she would appear there. Also if you read the shrines story it says that Kyne was the one who gave the voice to humans with the help of Pharthurnax. Giving the voice is literally teaching them shouts. If you add the fact that the "friend" knows where you use the Thu'um, even if its on the most isolated and mystical places; it suits an all seeing goddess.

swear to god you were under 2k subs last night and now you gained another quick 200! You have a good backlog of videos for people to binge, so I think this is the start of something good for your channel :) Just keep at it with the uploads, you got this bro!

Sound legit to me, thanks for this video and amazing work. Have a good one.

Good video, but you missed probably the most compelling piece of evidence: According to Nordic mythology, Kyne was the one who taught the Thu'um to the Nords, to begin with. It makes complete poetic sense that she would teach the Dragonborn.

Love these detective types of videos

holy crap this is actually really good most of these theory videos are just conjecture but you've honestly convinced me.

Wow, this is interesting. In all my Skyrim playthroughs, I met her and completely forgot about her 2 minutes later. After seeing this I don’t think that will ever happen again. You really did think this through. Bethesda really should think about hiring some of you guys to develop the next chapter of elder scrolls, bc you guys seem to give it much more thought than many of it‘s current creators! Good thing it‘s weekend, you just made me play this marvellous game again! Instant sub, Greetings from Germany

Gotta do more of these. Very entertaining

Finally, I've found another KZreadr to binge during my long graveyard hours.

This is pretty well thought out and I'd say I've been convinced this is the case, head canon at least. Talos did much the same in Morrowind.

Odahvings Dragon faction is a really cool theory i never even considered before! We already know that the dragons are very smart and can speak. Its very plausible that the dragons have human servants (similar to dragon priests) who are able to write letters for them and contact the dragonborn. If anything, they probably know much more about thuum/ word walls than Delphine. They also want to remain anonymous because if other dragons learn which one betrayed Alduin, then it could come back to haunt them.

I think this is cool and interesting. You did a lot of research! I think this is a fun answer, and I like it. (It could certainly be Kyne, and it's fun for that to be the answer). As for whether or not I believe it, I think the answer is kind of a yes and no. I believe it because it's fun and interesting, and makes sense in a way. But Bethesda is also notorious for random throwaways because of cut storylines, so she could be just no one in the final game. But, it does make the game a little more interesting, for her to be Kyne.

i can’t believe i have thousands of hours in skyrim and i’ve never seen or heard of her

Great perspective and sound rationale. I have many thousands of hours on the game. I recall receiving the letter when I popped off in dwarven ruins. That detail adds strength to someone hearing the thum supernaturally - which in turn supports kyne/karita as you theorize. I would love for you to be the one who finally puts the hammer down on a debate. Simply visit the bannered mare as a Thalmor in the early game. Someone will give you a gift. I have no doubt that you will connect the rest of the dots immediately. Cheers.

Damn you make some wild theories. I’d like to hear some other theories you have about Skyrim’s mysteries such as Konahrik, or what are Frost Giants and why do the ones in the Forgotten Vale have the paragons that activate the portal? Or even how Vulthuryol ended up in Blackreach?

think about how sad this is. she knows, and likely remembers, but goes unrecognized. waiting for the time when she finally is recognized, but time continues to pass, and she still walks the world alone.

I assure you, none of the greybeards writes that note. We don't have papers. We usually just shout to call someone from afar.

I often thought it was Kyne in some way but had absolutely 0 idea of these bits and pieces (had to do it) were even thinkable but I am on board with you 100% because this finished overall my theory that Kyne was indeed "Friend". I always thought the capital F meant something in relation to lore. Maybe it does maybe it doesn't but great work dude. You earned a sub from me!

This is just a passing thought, but it could also be the Ebony Warrior. He doesn't appear until you reach level 80 and his whole schtick is that he wants a powerful opponent to kill him in battle, so that he can go to Sovngarde. It would definitely be within his interests to help the Dragonborn grow in power, and you never learn his true identity so anonymity is right up his alley.

The idea of Karita sending these letters is an good theory. However I just have one issue with it. If you kill Karita, she still sends the letters to you

@JedForge

Жыл бұрын

People who are dead still send mercenaries after you as well ;)

@lilmissmilesyt9363

Жыл бұрын

What the guy above said and the fact she be God You basically only killed her avatar

@lilmissmilesyt9363

11 ай бұрын

@@BlazingBurrito2K Am not saying it's fact personally Just saying how she could still send letters IF it is True

@emrek99205

10 ай бұрын

She can be killed by the Dragonborn and by the troll further up the mountain. Hardly a godlike death. After she is killed she gets her own coffin in Riften, but can still write letters? While it is possible she wrote and mailed them before her death how would she know where/when you used your thu'um in a public place? And why would she need to keep hidden? Except for this KZreadr's wild, incorrect idea about Kyne, getting a letter from Karita would be very trustworthy. We would have no reason to suspect her of misleading us. She is just a high hrothgar pilgrim. She has been around. She has seen things. She has heard things. However, being dead and having only one interaction and no motive to help us kinda tosses aside the idea that it's her. Besides, wouldn't her circlet be fitted with a blue gem like the shrine if it were her? Green just makes no sense when sapphires exist in the game.

Her being Kyne might also explain the “glitch” that use to always cause a dragon to spawn there when you talked to her could it be Alduin sensed her and sent one of his minions to check it out

It is wulfgar who sends the letters, he senses the world walls, he knows you, He is also the ONLY NPC IN THE GAME WITH A PIECE OF CHARCOAL AND PAPER ROLLS in his inventory.

A good theory, but it leaves me asking: how does kyne have the power to manifest on nirn? Aedra are known to have very little power these days, and even a daedra struggles to manifest, which would be much easier for them than it would be for kyne.

@user-sg4uk9qn7p

Жыл бұрын

Mara And Talos(?) Both Appeared In Morrowind As Characters, Disguised As Normal People As Well. Seems Like Some, If Not All, Of The Aedra Can Just... Do That

Excellent theory...I always thought it was Esbern, considering he's in hiding, and would write the letters, knowing damn well where all the walls are, and would use the Thieves' Guild to send out the letters.

@wod5203

Жыл бұрын

The only drawback for it being Esbern, is that he is unaware that there is a Dragonborn until you tell him you're a Dragonborn when you meet him in the Ratway warrens. He's hiding out from the Thalmor and is convinced the world is doomed by the prohesy of the Worldeater.

Very interesting. I always thought it was the Ebony Warrior

You didn’t even need a deep dive to tell its not Delphine because she says herself that she had no idea who the dragonborn was until they ask for the attic room.

Cool video. I always assumed it was just whoever was in charge of the holds sending them since they’d have the knowledge of gossip and would like being anonymous since they have a reputation. My original suspicion was I had to shout near outdoor vendors as that’s what triggered my first letter from a friend. I figured if I bought from them they would want me to go on an adventure and then buy supplies from them. Silly but I had just started playing. Honestly I think the game devs just left it ambiguous to make it seem people were watching the player. But I do think you’re on to something with that girl being the god of nature. So perhaps you’re looking at things in a very significant way. That symbol in the mountains blew my mind

she disappears after the mission, and is never seen anywhere else even where you meet her for the first time, it's..., very strange

This is a really good theory, but in another video I saw, it explained that, if you look in the code (or something like that), the letters are shown to come from the word walls themselves.

I find these theories as fun as anyone else; yet my question is why do so many people assume it has to be only one sender?

In this two books, "Arcturian Heresy" and "Five Songs of king Wulfharth", there are the mentions of High Hrothgar, and I think that is the case, not the mentions of Kyne. Because if we take exact term "High Hrothgar" outside of Pocket Guides, these two books are the only ones lorebooks from previous games that mentions that monastery. Kyne is opposite in that sense, she appears in many other books.

My mind is blown away. Wow. That is cool.

Greybeards. Only them would know your presence as a Dragonborn, Delphine is unlikely since she doesn't even know you're one until she saw you absorb a dragon soul. Greybeards on the other hand would know if you used the Thu'um, and they're the ones who called you first after you used Unrelenting Force

Interesting idea, I'll be blunt. That quest marker thing sounds like a crackpot nonsense coincidence.

Well, damn. I'm not often convinced but you know what they say. One point makes a dot, but several points makes a line.

That map marker bit was a huge stretch. You could resize it to point anywhere.

I always though it's Delphine, she uses the same signature when she lures you with the horn of juergen windcaller.

Darn. I always take both her & the guy lower on the mountain out cause no witnesses & free loot. Im doomed to Oblivion 😢

Well Bois, Kynes peace is everywhere.

Did you look in the construction kit at what was in her inventory there, as well as try to figure out within it where she is set to spawn? That would answer whether or not she can spawn in other locations without a mod or get a different circlet.

I’m 100% sold, I love this theory.

just some experience to back further your theory, in one playthrough i attacked her for no reason and she fought back but as she is set as essential and I sheeted my weapon and after recovering so did she. I do not recall other NPC who would give up the fight after recovering the stamina, so clearly she has a better set predisposition towards the character of the player !

Brilliant, just brilliant. Please do other videos on other Elder Scrolls, I'm sure there are lots to cover yet. Just a slight objection though : they should have given her a Kynareth amulet then, not a Talos' one...

This is the first of your videos I've seen, but it's like listening to Caboose from RvB. I'm not sure whether that's intended, or even good or bad. Only 3 mins in though!

I got this letter from the soul carin, so I'm not sure what to think at this point.

I think it is faringard (the jarl of whiteruns court mage) he showed his experience and interest with dragons and ancient burial sites/ruins in the dragon stone quest and he works with dalphine the leader of the blades and I think the reason he only writes “from a friend” is because his pride and that after the dragonstone quest he could consider himself a friend to the Dragonborn

a friend is just tod our god showing us where content id located

This seems like the most off-the-wall answer to this question but I'd buy it

I unalive that Karita on the steps every single playthrough, and the letters still come afterwards

Shadow would not believe her, this one would be just confused.

There is also a theory that its the Dragonborn himself from the future, using time magic to go back in the past and have the letters delivered to him upon certain actions his past self did. It's plausible because he used time magic with the Elder Scroll and the Wooden Mask in Labrynthian. He would obviously know to send the letters at those points because it was they themselves who did it.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

So the dragonborn sends letters back in time because they know when they got a letter from the future and have to keep the time loop stable.

@Spiketrooper

Жыл бұрын

@HappyBeezerStudios Yup that's exactly it. I personally think this is more plausible than the theory in this Vid, as we have solid 100% proof of the Dragonborn utilizing time magic in two different scenarios, so it's definitely possible for him to do this.

@bable6314

Жыл бұрын

@@Spiketrooper Ehhhh we also know he is enthralled by Mora at the end of Dragonborn DLC, so that's not believable at all tbh.

@Spiketrooper

Жыл бұрын

@bable6314 To be fair, Hermaeus Mora's whole sphere is fate and knowledge. The dragonborn received those letters, it was fate and it gave the Dragonborn knowledge to find the powers in the letters. Mora would obviously know the Dragonborn received those letters, and would likely allow him to send the letters to as Beezer said, "Keep the time loop stable" and prevent a paradox.

I'm not sure it is Karita, because in one of my early playthroughs she was killed by a frost troll and I still got letters from a friend

Before I go Amy further than Delphine, I just wanna say I've always thought it was Ulfric, I got my reasons for that.

Would be cool to test if there would be a slightly altered interaction with her, if you get Kynes Blessing from Froki before meeting her or better before completing Dragons Rising. Sadly I'm already at Ustengrav on my ongoing playthrough and already deleted some older saves of it to ensure my bloated mess of modded Skyrim runs as good as it can. :D Also: I've played through the main quest many MANY times in a more and more extensively modded game which even alters NPCs to an extend and I've never seen her anywhere else but this tablet.

I always thought it was the greybeards. When you talk to them arngeir has the option to ask if he’s heard any wordwalls and he says something like, i heard a whisper of a word and gives you a location.

Karita being kyne and the one sending the letter makes sense also its even crazier to know that the last dragonborn may be an aspect of lorkhan kynes husband

I always thought the letters were from ourselves from the future.

i kinda hope its jarl ballin who we know for a fact likes to keep secrets

You can get the letters before meeting her!

Bro, is it just me or does this guy legitimately sound like Farengar, Whiteruns court wizard? 😅

Karita gets instagibbed by the Frost Troll when I fled from it at level 5 and realised the sucker regen faster than I hurt him. And I still got letters from a friend after her death

That woman that’s tied to the quest. I had my suspicions about her being kind for a long time for probably about 3 to 4 years that I’m playing the game since 2013 when I kind of thought about it I did a few quest linked to kine

@nightmaremaster7731

Жыл бұрын

But there is one problem with this theory is she’s a God that’s using a human identity. Wouldn’t she be Unkillable by the troll nearby if you go a little further up towards the graybeards fortress, there will be a troll, and if you don’t fight the troll back and let the troll follow you, the troll will kill her. I’ve tested that though

Had a similar idea, something is up with that character and those letters.

This is an insane theory, I really think the mystery might finally be solved, this sounds very very plausible

Ulfric Stormcloak, taught by the Greybeards, he's sharing their knowledge without their permission, hence the friend.

It's delphine, she even refers to herself as "a friend" I figured that out when i was a kid

I still believe it’s the ebony Warrior sending those letters