1-2-3. I love the dark brown or reddish brown on Ochiba. I have some doitsu ochiba and I try to get the dark brown to contrast against the grey. Great video!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

We are on the same line! Darker brown on Ochiba Shigure can look very, very nice. On Doitsu this looks nicest as well if you ask me! Thanks for your comment. 👍

Always enjoy koi selections!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad to hear that!

@CapeFearKoi

4 жыл бұрын

AboutKoi , You’re welcome!

One of my favorite types of koi and I 100% agree with you on the best koi in the group.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

It is a nice variety for sure. Good to hear I'm not the only one going for that Ochiba as nr 1. Thanks for your comment!

17:12 is a perfect pick to me than your last 3. Sometimes a"special thing" have some risk, thats why it is called"special". Thanks for showing us. Very informative video.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Sure that is a good pick! It is ok to take that risk if you are fine with the idea that it might not become what you would like it to become. Just like mentioned I didn't pick it because for this video I wanted to focus on Ochiba Shigure that have a higher chance for succes, since we want to help hobbyists with selecting young Ochiba Shigure & what the best aspects are to look for. Thanks for your reply!

@janschezant4747

4 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi That is a good point you made.👌🏻

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Still it is a good pick though 😉👍

Great advice 👍👍🇬🇧

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply. Hopefully some nice new insights that can help you! 👍

3 - 1 - 2. Would be my pick, 3 gets first pick, because of the fun head pattern. Would love to see them again in a year. I think if I was to buy an Ochiba it would have to be a nisai or sansai, because the brown would be more developed. Another thought provoking and interesting video, thanks for sharing. Stay safe and well.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Steven, number three indeed has a nice head pattern. I can understand why you pick number 3 as your first pick. personally I prefer darker brown / maroon colour brown as you probably did understand. I think selecting Ochiba Shigure at a young is more difficult than at a later age as you also mentioned, it can be quite difficult to estimate how the brown will evolve. For that reason not a bad choice to select them as nisai/sansai for your own pond. Also some Ochiba tend to develop small black spots (shimi's) quite easily. Thanks for your reply, stay safe.

Thankyou for the very informative video on the Orchiba...i would have selected number 3...liked the fuller pattern it was more spaced out, would have took the gamble that the brown areas would darken over time...many thanks.

I actually had my eye on the number 1 selection from the beginning of the video lol. I don't care for 2, I like number 3 with the war paint stripes across its head, and I also liked the one you were looking at 11:10. It's not considered an ideal Ochiba Shigure but I like the idea that they're named after autumn leaves on the water's surface and I think that the sumi speckling would add more character to the "water's surface". It's a characteristic and unique fish that I would enjoy watching in my pond for years.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

The one at 11:10 is quite nice! Like what I mentioned I surely would have selected it if it did not have these black dots. I think it will develop even more black dots when becoming older. Cool that we are aligned with our nr 1 👍

Hello. Mr. I.m. apud from bgr indonesia. Verry good color. Fish koi ochiba.

@Aboutkoi

3 жыл бұрын

Hi there. I'm happy to read people from Indonesia are watching! Thank you so much and enjoy your Koi hobby! 👍

Our favorite is 5:45 mins in. Beautiful!

@Aboutkoi

3 жыл бұрын

Nice one 😀. Thanks for your comment!

awesome job!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hopefully you learned something from this video as well!

@shukchau977

4 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi definitely!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Good to hear 👍

#2 I like the pattern

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Good choice! Hopefully this was insightful as well.

No1, deeper brown and net patten on grey clean markings 👍👍👍

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Have to agree with you. Deep red brown / maroon colour is beautiful. Hopefully they all three will develop nicely!

Number 1 👍👍

@orsettcock

4 жыл бұрын

Number 1. I like the darker variety.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Personally love the darker Ochiba Shigure's more as well! Can almost look like maroon/chestnut colour. Beautiful!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Fully agree with you 👍

I love Ochiba

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Who doesn't! They are so tame and easy to hand feed... And can have a very nice dark brown / maroon colour, surely is a great variety.

For sure I choose no. 1. Because the brown is darker than other n the pattern is quite balance.

@Aboutkoi

3 жыл бұрын

Nice choice! Thanks for your reply and sharing your opinion!

Please upload in details about 3 months old koi fish how they color step by step to one year old.. I really love your videos..

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there, have you seen my selection video on baby Koi fish? I'm explaining some of the basics about baby koi and how they develop there, see: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYuZ3JVwo8zNdqQ.html. More detailed video's to follow of course 😉.

At 3:23 you mention the orange pectoral fins. As the ochiba grows the orange tends to shrink to the fin base much like a showa motoguro. 😊 i think that looks really nice. What do you think?

@Aboutkoi

3 жыл бұрын

You are right, orange tends to shrink. But I'm not sure if it wil be completely disappearing. I honestly have my doubts. It is a nice ochiba for sure! I like the net pattern on it, it seems to be quite deep already. But personally it is not my type / style of Ochiba. I prefer a pattern over the entire body instead of only the head area.

Of your final 3,#3 is a pattern I enjoy,even if the. Color is not as intense.but personally my first. Choice would be one reje Ted at 17:00=17:15 time stamp..I'm not an expert or judge,but I was drawn to that one ea h time it swam by.

Theres some very nice fish there

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

There sure are some nice koi in there. Would be nice to grow out the top3 picks!

Can you show us how to select a perfect circular Tancho because the head shape tends to change a lot as fry! Thanks!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

We can do that later of course. Make sure to not pick a Tancho with a smal head shape. When it grows, it will most likely look too small.

Yep No1 easy!

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

We are on one line 😉. Nice pick!

The deeper brown would be my choice, but all 3 are lovely :) Perhaps in time the lighter colored ones will intensify. When just 2" long my ki kikokuryu was a long shot, but I liked it. Now at 4 yrs old he's gorgeous; not very big but gorgeous ! Which leads me to ask, " why didn't he grow as big as my other koi " ? They were all raised together.

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Most likely the brown will futher intensify indeed, that is what usually happens. Also the net pattern is likely to develop itself more intensive. Nice! I have to say that most kikokuryu do not grow that quickly. Most of them grow to about 60-70 cm and have a shorter body confirmation. It's probably in the variety/bloodline.

@michaela-be4le

4 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi Thank you for the info ;)

@michaela-be4le

4 жыл бұрын

just subscribed :)

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Great, thank you!

@michaela-be4le

4 жыл бұрын

@@AboutkoiHi, I'm thinking of getting a few more young koi tomorrow....will their growth be affected if I raise them in the pond with my larger koi?

My ochiba was a bit like this light with brown stripes. We still call him stripey but now the colour has changed to dark blue and light blue markings-why is this? From uk

I have dainichi blackdiamond, when tosai 15cm colour is grey and have ginrin. But when they grow.the colour turn black and cover ginrin.any idea about that?

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Blackdiamond, nice. Is it Dainichi Botan offspring? If so, I believe it can cover the ginrin indeed. But I don't think the ginrin will fully disappear. It is still there, just there is a lot of heavy sumi/black on it which makes it less visible? Probably have to give it some time 😃

@freddyagustan5629

4 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi please make a video about dainichi blackdiamond😀

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

That's going to be difficult unfortunately 😉. Who knows once!

excellent its a pity the first one you selected to get rid of is like mine

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

That doesn't mean you can't grow it up and enjoy it though! 😉 Hopefully it will develop nicely!

I'm seeing one with whatooks like a chevron or V pattern from the shoulders onto the head.might be 3 step total.so far I think it looks God pattern. But only part way into the vid.

I got koi like ochiba but the colour tend to green spot rather than brown or orange-brown. What kind of this koi? is it still belong to ochiba??

@Aboutkoi

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean a grey base with green markings on it? That is strange! I'm not sure what variety that is. Chagoi can sometimes look a bit greenish. Or Midorigoi. They are however entirely one colour.

@imanbarizi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi yes it is. Can i know your email and i will send the photo of koi which grey base with green marking

@imanbarizi

Жыл бұрын

Finally i got the name that is ochiba lobina

Is there a koi like this but instead has a black kohaku pattern?

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean with a grey base and then black patterns on it? Hmm not really, there is a variety 'Black Soragoi' that has the grey/black combination. It however doesn't have the pattern with steps as you are probably searching for.

@dippifiedwanderer9043

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi black diamond soragoi!!😁 i love ginrin on a black koi.

17:30 heb je die nog ? vink wel leuke wat kostie ?

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, unfortunately we are not selling any Koi. Just trying to spread information 😉

@laurenceklunder

4 жыл бұрын

@@Aboutkoi Ah das jammer! wou wel zown Ochiba kopen anders :D

Personally I don’t think it was a particularly good selection of Ochiba and I wouldn’t have purchased any of them! That being said I think you probably choose the best of a bad bunch with the one you selected

@Aboutkoi

4 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you. As I've also mentioned this is just regular quality Ochiba Shigure that you can find for a good price in any Koi store. It is of course meant to explain the basics to look for when selecting a Ochiba Shigure by yourself 👍

At 17:00 is o.k. i.m.o.

Guten Abend,kann ich bei Ihnen auch Ochiba bestellen?Liebe Grüße Rainer

1then 2 not 3

@Aboutkoi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!