No doubt, SMS RGB nearly knocked me on my ass the first time I saw it. I was slowly backing away from the CRT and tripped.

The Master System was my first games console in the mid 1980s when I was in Junior High. Hang On, Wonder Boy, Thunder Blade, Outrun, Alex Kidd, Golden Axe etc. Absolutely loved it. The 1980s were magical times for kids following entertainment across the board.

Great episode guys, as usual. Here in Brazil, the Master System 1 was identical to the US version, except for the A/V Out that was not present; there is RF of course and a direct composite (1 video and 1 audio RCA outputs) was added on the back by Tec Toy (SEGA oficial retailer here in Brazil). I play/capture only via Power Base on the Mega Drive using RGB and I was very pleased to know that it's a little brighter and saturated, thanks for sharing that comparison Coury! Please keep doing this series, its awesome to see you guys showing true love for outputting the best image on our real consoles. Cheers from Brazil!

@henriquebeira

5 жыл бұрын

Hey, I came here to know how to play Master System nicely, and now I realise that I need a Power Base :-P

@JohnnyProctor9

4 жыл бұрын

You guys are AWESOME for keeping the SMS alive...THANK YOU!!!

@JohnnyProctor9

4 жыл бұрын

@@henriquebeira - ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

SMS is an amazing console and the first console to output RGB natively when everyone else was just offering RF or Composite. It's also backwards compatible with SG-1000 games if you put Roms on a Master EverDrive flash cart and play it on a Master System; not on a Genesis with Power Base Converter unfortunately. Great episode, I'm looking forward for more!

It's amazing how ahead of their time Sega consoles were regarding the quality of video signals you could tap in right out of the box. The fact that the Master System ouputs RGB natively is crazy. Nintendo, on the other hand, has always been screwing customers in that regard. The NES didn't offer anything better than composite (at the time, offering composite was actually good : but look at what the Master System could offer). For the SNES, some of the revisons offer a blurry RGB picture, and all of them have vertical bars in the middle of the screen when stock (the Genesis, on the other hand, offers crystal-clear RGB). The N64 have a very nasty Anti-Aliasing filter that blurs the picture (meanwhile, the Saturn offers clear RGB, as is always the case with Sega consoles). Thankfully now there are nice solutions for nintendo consoles (i almost cried of joy the first time I played on my RGB modded Nes lol), but they still require work and money to be invested in them, while Sega consoles offer crystal-clear RGB natively on all their consoles, and you have to appreciate that.

@venares76

8 жыл бұрын

+FinalBaton Even the Wii only came with composite cables in 2006! unbelievable. I had to buy separate component cables.

@achived3200

5 жыл бұрын

guess you could say sega does what nintendon't

@pungisotu

5 жыл бұрын

The SMS' RGB had jail bars and the Mark III was very dark, unusable by some's account.

@badreality2

4 жыл бұрын

@@venares76 What the hell are you "crying" about? The PS3 I bought in 2011 ONLY came with composite cables. Let me repeat that.

@badreality2

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but remember, the RGBs that comes out of Sega systems are unattenuated, so you need to buy the correct SCART or JP21 converter cables with capacitors and resistors in them, to compensate for this. The U.S., at least. For RGB regions (PAL, Japan), this is NOT a worry.

so basically. everyone with scart cables had the luxury of rgb when this came out. now in the us, we can get adapters to use scart on our us crts. this is amazing.

@stuffums

6 жыл бұрын

I think it's why in EU the mega drive was more popular than NES even if it had fewer classics, the NES just output garbage RF or composite even with the French RGB adaptor but Sega put in proper SCART hardware

@Koexistence13

5 жыл бұрын

The 8 pin din or oversize looking s video port on the back supports ?Scart? I googled and it looks like a pc monitor output. How can I convert that out put to plug into my LG flat screen?

@Longlius

5 жыл бұрын

It should be emphasized that not all scart TVs supported RGB, and it wasn't until the late 90s that the TVs that did came down enough in price to be something that the average consumer could buy. The scart connector was envisioned as an all-in-one format for carrying a video signal, so scart connections can carry anything from an RF signal to component and RGB. It just depends on what your TV supports. There's a weird tendency in the retro community to overromanticize SCART. While it was a better, more coherent standard than what we got in the US, you shouldn't imagine Europeans playing their Mega Drives with full RGB in 1993 or what have you (unless they were wealthy enough to afford a TV that could display RGB video).

@justanotheryoutubechannel

5 жыл бұрын

Bobby Dugart I bet you guys regret leaving the empire now, huh?

@justanotheryoutubechannel

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew Longley Most, if not all, TVs with SCART input can support RGB. But not all SCART sockets can take RGB. Most can, but not all. However, most Europeans used RF. Although we could’ve been using beautiful RGB, we stuck with the worst of the worst, as most people didn’t know any better.

Great work! Explaining RGB to customers can be difficult, especially with each console. Your entire RGB video series is top notch.

The music in the first minute is from the SMS game Zillion. I used to love it as a child. When i heard it again it gave me goosebumps.

The Master System DID include the composite cables in the box. At least they did at one point, like when I got mine for Christmas in the 80's. I no longer have that SMS, but I still have the cable. Sold the SMS after I got a Power Base converter, but still needed the cable for my model 1 Genny.

Great video, can't wait for the next episode in this series. My first proper console was the original SMS with the light gun, loved playing Operation Wolf on our little 14" TV in the late 80s.

One thing that was not mentioned, is what kind of RGB: sync-on-composite or composite sync (aka csync), but it's most probably the first one. Love all your videos, specially this series! Sooner or later I'm taking most of my systems to RGB heaven :D

Sorry in not ready for something higher than RF quality yet.

@mistamontiel00

4 жыл бұрын

l0l

that difference in quality is amazing. i have a A/V to red/yellow/white AV an the quality's not great. i'm gonna get the scart adapter now. subscribed you rule my dude

Seriously, your videos are awesome every time. I wish you (literally) a thousand times more viewers.

Great that you guys are going to look into each console specificly!

I don't know if all board revisions are the same but my Sega Master System works great with the Genesis cable from HD Retrovision.

Love these series, but honestly ive been waiting for YEARS for the dreamcast episode

I remember how everyone is like "The Master System comes with built-in game(s)!" and then when I bought mine from a Pawn shop a few years back, I turned mine on and.... nothing, no game built in. Just instructions on how to insert and play a cartridge. Turns out, the very first run of Master Systems came with a physical cartridge packed in, and not a game built in. Either way though, still plays in beautiful RGB over SCART :D

What you did is very nice and useful, but you might want to check twice the technical details if you want to mention them. For instance, the the box on the RF cable is not the RF modulator, it is just a switch between the game and TV the antenna. The modulator is inside the console. Also composite cannot be modulated into S-video, modulation means modifying a carrier signal amplitude/frequency/phase (usually RF) according to the useful signal (video/audio).

I bought recently a Master System 1 and I am looking forward to receiving it.

@JohnnyProctor9

4 жыл бұрын

I guarantee, you won't be disappointed with the amazing quality and variety of games available for this gem...

1:58 No *WONDER* why my apartment neighbor was able to watch me play my Nintendo games down stairs next to my bed room -.- I don't even recall using an amplifier to emit higher audio/video air waves.

@justinholmes5614

8 жыл бұрын

I made my N64 do the same. 13 year old me added an audio out to the RF converter and didn't quite get the idea of common ground. Worked great though, apart from transmitting my N64 to the neighbours.

Very positive video, even the intro and outro music is uplifting. 10/10 would watch again. Thank you!

Please make more of these 200 series! You guys are awesome. I've been looking at the xRGB-mini for over a year and finally ordered it. After a year, I got the most info from you guys just from 5 videos!

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Farhan Jiwani [Coury] We've got tons planned, tentative date for 202 is May 22nd. With 302 following after that. Our current plan is 2 RGB episodes in a row, then 2-4 game based ones. We don't want to solely focus on the RGB videos, because A) They're very time consuming an draining based on the amount of B-Roll we collect and B) we want to keep talking about games and other subjects as well!

@farhan_jiwani

9 жыл бұрын

***** fully understandable! your other vids are very professional and great to watch. I'll try to find you on Patreon

Man I really love the Master system. The games, the music. Ah I miss saturday mornings as a little kid..

In case someone might need to use an RF modulator on a system but cannot find one, here's a great tip: You can use a standard RCA cable (the same used for composite/component) and plug it into the RF port on the console. Then, you can hook it directly to the coax input on the TV with a dirt cheap adapter (coax on one side, RCA plug on the other). Generally the adapter is called a RCA Female to F Male.

Loving the series thank you soooooooooo much for making them!..............P.S Loving the intro music ;o)

The master system is very kind when it comes to modding and it's very easy. I live in Sweden, Europe. I modded mine so I got 50/60hz and a language button. All without any soldering experience, only KZread :) Thanks for a awesome episode as always :) the sega master system will always be my no 1 system :)

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Frenom [Coury] Thanks! Its such a great system and I'm happy to have still have my childhood console. I actually have an FM mod on the way at last and can't wait to get it installed.

Thanks for showing the power base converter. I bought it for 25 bucks hoping it'll be a nice shortcut so I won't have to get the SMS , glad it looks better

seeing you sit on that couch with the glasses on and all those wires running across the floor was hilarious

I have a SMS nodded with the FM sound chip. After watching this video I bought a scart rgb cable for the av out. I then connect it through an Elephas scart to hdmi converter to the tv. No noticeable lag in game play and a great picture after choosing 720 resolution on the converter and adjusting the picture settings on my LG tv. Not perfect like the frameister but still really good and only about $60 to$70 in total.

Question: If these machines output RGB, would it be possible to make up a Component cable for it?

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

***** It is! And that's exactly what HD Retrovision is working on doing!

@videogamepolak0

9 жыл бұрын

+HD Retrovision been snoozing on them cables...

@HDRetrovision

9 жыл бұрын

VideoGame Polak oh?

@Larry

9 жыл бұрын

VideoGame Polak Yes, get back to work, this aint no sleepover. :D

@videogamepolak0

9 жыл бұрын

HD Retrovision whats the D-date on these cables

This is a very US-centric video. The Master System was also available in Europe and Australia/New Zealand, but we don't use F-connectors for our terrestrial television here in NZ, so there is no "screwing in". It's a larger connector, similar fit to an RCA connector. But these are just little details...

@pabloxd1239

5 жыл бұрын

im from europe and my dad has been ussing rf since the first day (yeah what ever)

This video series is really cool! I hope you guys do one on the N64 soon..i love that console but it's a pain trying to get any crisp picture on it

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Rastia [Try4ce] Definitely looking forward to doing the N64 200-level video. It's one of my favorite consoles, because that was the generation when I really started to follow upcoming games and anticipate their release. But I will say, don't expect miracles when it comes to the N64. Unlike PS1, N64 games tend to have a softer image due to anti-aliasing, which is a great effect for consoles that run in 480i and higher, but turns out to not be such a great thing for 240p. RGB modding the N64 does improve the colors and the textures feel like they have a bit more contrast and definition, but it's hardly the revelatory experience that RGB is with say, NES or Genesis.

@JoshuaRastia

9 жыл бұрын

Understandable. Still, anything to help improve the quality even a little will still be awesome and helpful :) can't wait!

Ahhh ... My first console. Altered Beast was the first console game I ever played. Never knew they had glasses for it, whoa.

Thank you, I fucking LOVE this console!!!

Nobody seems to know that there are some variations of the Master System 2 that came with the same AV/out as the model 1, especially in France where SCART was prevalent. I have one of those, they come with a scart cable but they only work with the framemeister if you disable the SYNC as it was handled differently in the SECAM standard.

@Dxceor2486

6 жыл бұрын

It's not SECAM, it's just RGB. NTSC,PAL and SECAM are standards used for composite video and its derivatives

Very nice! I've got both the original Master System (3D Glasses set), and the Power Base Converter. Right now, the Power Base Converter works so well that I kind of really don't see the need to even keep the Master Sytem around. That being said, I did run into an issue with the Genesis when I bought a JP-21 RGB cable for it, and that was very ugly 'jail bars'. I did some Googling and learned that these first models of the Genesis are known to have this issue because of the poor design of the video encoding process. Thankfully the fix was fairly simple, involving breaking one of the trace lines on the circuit board of the Genesis. The results were amazing. The jail bars were completely removed, and the picture looked flawless. The drawback is doing this mod removes all other video output from the Genesis, so you either have to live with only RGB (oh the humanity), or rig a toggle switch on the line in the circuit board to be able to turn composite video sources back on.

Honestly, one of my favorite video series to come along on youtube. Excellent job as always, guys. Quick question, I see that you guys have a Toshiba CRT in the background. In your opinion, do you recommend it's tube over some other consumer grade crt televisions, such as sony? Also, what did you use to get an rgb signal to that television?

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

megamanfan1500 [Coury] Only since moving in December have I had room to hook up a CRT to play on (and shoot video off of) have I really gotten back into it. I didn't know what to get for a long time, but was pointed in the the direction of the Toshiba by Game Sack and I just adore the thing. The model I have is a 27AF44 and I got it at good will for 12 dollars. It has Composite, S-Video and Component in on it. . It has big beautiful scanlines and is a flatscreen. In terms of getting the signal to the TV, all the SMS stuff in this episode that was shot off screen was via the Master System's composite. Though I do have a SCART to Component converter on the way to use in the future with it.

@megamanfan1500

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks for the response Coury. I also heard from Gamesack that Toshiba has the best CRT screen for retro games. I found mine at a flea market for a bit more ($35), but the quality is fantastic, and allows composite, s-video, and component.

I bought a Sega master System 2 with the same A/V port as the Sega Master System Mark 1 has. The version I have is a Belgium one, but It lacks of a RF port. I use Scart cable for it.

Side note: it has been over 9 years since this series started, and in the opening, they show all the consoles that many of us now would consider retro. The Xbox Classic is on that list but has yet to do a video on it. Or it has been delisted.

Really cool extended series of the original one. Im looking forward to this. Thanks. Regards from Europe.

Still have my original from 1987, first game was Transbot and teddy boy in card, my favourite game was Golden Axe Warrior which was a role playing game “sega version of Zelda”.

SEGA MASTER SYSTEM 2!!!! My first ever console! Had Sonic The Hedghog byuilt into the console and that was of course my first ever game!

This is awesome. Thanks for the tips!

Sweet, keep those videos coming guys :)

I just use a crt, it looks great!

Good video. I loved growing up with the Master System II with Sonic built in but while the design of the Mark II looks more attractive the original I've come to realise is superior for having those extra features.

Did I mention, I love these guys?

My original master system has visible jailbars with rgb so I purchased a Japanese master system and it looks incredible

Technically, they REPLACED Snail Maze with Alex Kidd in the MSII. Plus even in the SMS 1 there were a bunch of other versions with other games build in like Hang On, OutRun and Safari Hunt.

RF... I remember that. talk about back in the day.

I remember the days when RF would have been thought of as pretty decent... I don't remember it looking as sucky as it does. I have both a model one Master System with Snail built in and a composite modded SMS2 with a region speed switch... we really got stiffed in the UK when it came to the speed games played. Sometimes playing games on US systems or emulated, I feel really quite thrown off by the increase in speed making some games unplayable (without a ton of practice anyway). Cracking video as always. Really looking forward to the blog post with the timeline screenshot... those assets at the start :D

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Sk4zZi0uS [Coury] Y'know, I remember it looking alot better too. But I think the CRT itself makes it look a lot better. Getting a capture of an RF output was not easy. I was lucky that my CRT has a composite out, so i had to run that into a DVD recorder which would then spt that out as component into my capture card.

@slightlytwistedagain

9 жыл бұрын

Later master system games were actually done at the correct speed. Sonic 2 for SMS was done properly compared to Sonic 1.

@Ballowax

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylifeingaming why didn't you just plug the composite out into the frameister and then plug the framiester into the capture card

I really should use my Master System more. It's a Master System 2 though. I think even as a kid I only ever saw 1 original MS. I always felt like the system got a bit overlooked. There may not have been so many games that still get talked about now but it could really pump out some decent graphics for the time.

@TheDeeplyCynical

9 жыл бұрын

Get it modded, and install Tim worthington's FM mod board as well to add FM sound capability in compatable games

Wonderful review! Thanks!

I had no clue you could use an S-video cable on the Master System. IMO the Sega Master System outclassed the NES in graphics in a certain way. Maybe that's just my opinion,m but what shocks me most of all is how all video game manufacturers failed to offer stereo sound until the late 1980s. Wonder why??? I ;learned a lot thanks to your channel. Much appreciated.

@mylifeingaming

4 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Keep in mind though that it only works with a mod to the console. It doesn't support S-video out of the box!

HD retro vision has new cable for sega, it adds a few pixles to vertical resolution too.

actually, the signal coming out of the RF port on the system is already modulated, the device you stick in between the TV and console just prevents the game's video signal from interfering with the connected cable TV or antenna and leading to a not so pleasant visit from your cable company or the FCC =P

@mylifeingaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Phredreeke [Try4ce] Yeah, at the time, we were erroneously using the terms "switch" and "modulator" interchangeably, but have since come to better understand what they're doing. It had been a long time since we were concerned with how those things worked. :P

Nice! I think I'll grab a powerbase converter, since I already have a scart cable for my genesis.

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

[coury] I was definitely not expecting the difference to be as big as it is. I thought they were gonna be identical.

@AvalancheReviews

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, way brighter. Im pretty stoked to get into some MS games. Never even knew it existed, growing up.

@DougPlummer

9 жыл бұрын

***** I wonder if the video difference is from the SG1000 palettes present in the Master system and no in the Genesis

Awesome tutorial.

I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about the fm modulator on the Japanese version and how the west didn't get this as standard - otherwise it was a very informative video indeed and I look forward to watching the rest of this series :)

Hey, I came here to know how to play Master System nicely, and now I realise that I need a Power Base :-P

@JohnnyProctor9

4 жыл бұрын

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

Built in Snail Maze game? I don't remember that. I remember built in Sonic the Hedgehog and on another relatives SMS2 being Alex the Kid in Miracle World.

perfect, congratulations👍

Very informative, and I hope to see more of these videos. Wonder what consoles you'll be talking about next.

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

[coury] thanks! We have a ton planned, we just chose an easier system to introduce the 200 level and determine how they'll flow. NES is next, and it'll be a big one. Lots of options and mods.

@MoonSpiritChannel

9 жыл бұрын

Cool, this got me wondering if you guys might cover the Atari systems, or Intellivision, just out of curiosity.

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

MoonSpiritExp [Try4ce] I've got my hands on an Atari 2600, which I'd like to get S-Video modded, and a ColecoVision, which I'd like to get composite modded. Definitely will do videos on them when that happens!

@EpicGamerWinXD69

9 жыл бұрын

Could you tell me where to get a premodded Atari or colecovision , please???,

Ur channel is fantastic 👍🏻

The Saturn and Dreamcast haven't been covered yet in the RGB201 series. Please consider making a video about them in the future.

@mylifeingaming

7 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Oh don't worry about it. We basically want to make videos on every system we possibly could. Saturn is a very high priority. Dreamcast is too, but we'd like to do Saturn first.

@Brucelygamereviewer

7 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely looking forward!

It would be great to see coverage of the less popular systems, Atari Jaguar, Panasonic 3DO, etc.

Some Master Systems have a jailbar problem in RGB mode that requires an amplifier mod to fix, so your mileage may vary on how easy it is to get the best picture quality from it.

Don't forget that the original SMS can play SG-1000 games, though with a messed up palette. Mega Drive, even with Power Base Converter, does not support SG-1000 video modes, meaning you can't play SG-1000 games properly, nor can you play F-16 Fighting Falcon.

I personally can't wait until you guys get to the SNES on this series, I'm getting a Framemeister next month and I'm eager to see what you have to say on it.

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

***** [Try4ce] SNES is gonna be a fun one! Seems simple enough on the surface, but there are a lot of considerations, too. In the meantime, our video on the NES is releasing in about two weeks!

Love your channel, you guys have great production value and I always feel I'm genuinely interested in everything you have to say, have either of you taken film classes?

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

I do games [Coury] Thanks so much! We strive to have as nice looking and tightly edited content as possible. If we've taken classes: yeah, we both went to school for film and video and currently work professionally in that environment.

Well my Sega Master System is connected through RGB and has jail bars in the image. I bought the cables from Retro Console Accessories. I think it may be an issue with the system. Wonder what version of the system they are using.

@kevinwoolford123

5 жыл бұрын

As far as I know all master system units have jailbars. Reducing brightness can help on darker areas but bright blues can show it up still sadly. I'm using mine on the ossc 5x mode.

There are adapters that work on all versions of the Genesis now.

Rf and composite looks good on a crts from the 2000s

Rgb is absolutely great BUT many games are designed with rf in mind and uses those artifacts to give the ellusion of more colors ,create transparrancy, rainbow or rain effects,so for those whose wants to preserve those effects while still being enable to hookup their master system 2 to a frame meister?? Just hook it up to a vcr and then connect the vcr to the frame meister, there you go.

@LordRayken

8 жыл бұрын

+Johneymute supergd Wrong. They were not designed with RF in mind.

@spotsandfriends4052

7 жыл бұрын

They probably were not made with RF in mind. The developers almost certainly used Professional Video Monitors and RGB through BNC connectors to view their games during development. I have never scene a game that I thought look better through RF than a superior connection. I will agree though that sometimes RGB is a little too clean and can make things on a PVM look too blocky. However, degrading the connection to S-Video or more likely composite solves the issue in that extremely rare scenario.

Hi Coury and Tryce. @MyLifeInGaming Have you thought of doing a RGB Master Class episode about getting the best picture for the Atari 2600? Looked on your Playlist and couldn't see one. :o Any chance of seeing that episode in the future? Cheers, SIJArts

@mylifeingaming

5 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Definitely in the plans but it could be a while still!

@JRussellProductions

5 жыл бұрын

@@mylifeingaming No worries Try4ce. :) Thanks for the answer mate, Keep up the great episodes. You and Coury are doing a great job with all these videos. All the best. Josh SIJArts

Any chance of going to consoles prior to this generation? I think someone just developed a true RGB mod for the 2600. If any pre-SMS/NES system is worth it, it would be that one. Also, some early computers might be worth discussing (Apple II for sure).

@mylifeingaming

8 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Oh yeah, Atari and Colecovision are definitely on our radar. We want to eventually do as many systems as possible!

@mylifeingaming

8 жыл бұрын

+pokepress [Coury] Its our goal, over time to cover as many consoles as we possibly can. Theres probably even some we'll eventually do that we haven't even thought of yet!

During your intro, I was looking for a "tracking" button on my phone...

hey there, yesterday i found my master system 1 on the atic and hooked it up to my tv and stil works, the image is no bad but can be better ofcourse so what is my best option i have hdmi connections and also scart. i have seen some cables from a seller from the UK are those any good or do i need more?

Problem with the SEGA master system is the D PAD breaks. riscman on eBay does some awesome REPLACEMENT 3D prints of these SEGA D-PADs. Really cheap and great quality too!! Check it out!

coury in scotland, means to cuddle in, ( keep warm kinda )

Okay, so I have a question. Is it possible to mod a NES controller to work with a Mega Drive (or vice versa) for use with master system games, or perhaps an adaptor to do that? And if not, can you make one work with the Master System? I don’t know myself, but you guys, as retro geniuses and great KZreadrs, are more likely to know than me so I thought it was worth asking.

This is an excellent idea. After having my framemeister for about a week (still learning) this couldn't have come a better time. Only request is if there are any specific settings or image modes you suggest on the XRGB that are console specific.

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Mitchell Bowling [Coury] Congrats on the Framemeister! Our next episode is specifically on all the different options of the Framemeister. Stuff like image processing modes, scaling modes will all be broken down. But in the man time, for me personally, I like the "NORMAL2" scaling mode and for image processing, for all progressive sources you should use the "PICTURE" setting.

@RedArremer

9 жыл бұрын

There is an incredible amount of research still on-going about all the options and quirks of the Framemeister. It's taken me the better part of a month to master the Framemeister's features just for 240p console gaming alone. While it is an amazing little device, it does have some flaws and limitations. For example, if you want the cleanest and sharpest looking picture, you'll want to use 1080p output if you have a 1080p display. Unfortunately, the Framemeister uses a very lazy scanline overlay system, and they look just awful at 1080p. Most people just settle for the loss of sharpness and output at 720p so they can have more tolerable scanlines. Also 1080p is such that most console images don't scale properly without either leaving a border, or have oddly shaped pixels on the vertical axis (causes scrolling artifacts in the up & down direction). I've worked out my own solutions to 1080p output, but it would take several pages to explain here. I'm thinking about making a page on my web site dedicated to all my findings about how the Framemeister works and behaves for 240p gaming.

The main trouble with the Sega Master System is that eventually the D-Pad on the controller breaks and falls out. You can just buy a high quality 3D printed sega master system replacement D-Pad for £2.75 off riscman on eBay!! Works better than the original!! Sega Master system Game Pad problem solved!!

Great video. I loved the 100 series videos, can't want to see all of the console specific 200 series videos. :) Quick Question: When showing the comparison between composite and RGB in this video is the composite signal being processed by the Framemeister and then sent to your VCC, or is the composite signal running directly to the VCC?

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

Develitate [Coury] When the composite signal is being processed by the Framemeister we'll specifically say it, like I do before the A/B of Composite vs RGB. It just comes down to the ease of being able to accurately capture a composite signal. Its tougher these days to find a capture card worth anything that will capture from a composite line in. While the Framemeister offers a definite jump even with composite, the difference between it and RGB is still night and day.

@Develitate

9 жыл бұрын

***** I assumed as much based on the breakdown of your equipment via RGB102, but I do appreciate the clarification. :) Keep up the good work. MLiG is one of my absolute favorite gaming channels. I'm looking forward to your next video!

You guys should have gone into playing master system through megadrive with power base converter.

Two questions: 1.) Regarding best possible picture console, I don't really get it: Did I get something wrong, I think you mention on one hand the Mega Drive with Power Base converter delivers best picture quality, but on the other hand in the summary you state the Master System I delivers the best experience visually? 2.) Is the Mega Drive with Power Base converter also superior to a RGB modded Master System II? I have the latter and so far I'm very satisfied with its picture quality.

Given that your videos are generally more than complete (cf the video on Nintendo handhelds) on hardware and RGB, I'm surprised you forgot to mention that the Japanese Master System was the best way to benefit from some FM games with the FM Sound unit included. Best of it, some PAL cartridges kept the FM sound, then you can use them with a proper converter..And it's true as well that some games were only compatible on Master System 2 because of the 256x224 resolution instead of the usual fixed resolution of 256x140 from the first model.

@mylifeingaming

7 жыл бұрын

+lagorta [Try4ce] This was the first 200 series episode, and we didn't go as crazy in depth with the first couple of them. For better or worse! They sure take a lot more time now.

It seems you guys have come a long way over the past few years as there is quite a bit of misunderstanding happening in this video. Perhaps some of these older video's could use an update? Not that there's anything wrong with that, my understanding of RGB was probably no better back in 2015 as I was just getting into the RGB scene around that time.

But will the Genesis HD retrovision cables work with the Genesis model 1 adapter on the master system? 🤔

@mylifeingaming

4 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Yep.

YEPE it called TAM!

Great videos! Are you guys planning to do more console-specific episodes? If so, could you guys do one on the PlayStation?

@mylifeingaming

9 жыл бұрын

thegeniusgamer1234 [Coury] We are definitely doing more. Look for a new one on the 21st of the month, in fact! Eventually we'd like to cover all systems possible, and the Playstation is definitely on that list.

@pedropablopicasso

9 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I'll put it on my calendar. :)

Would the HD Retrovision cables work on the MasterSystem since they use the same cables?

@mylifeingaming

5 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Yes, they work.

I have honestly never used a weird box thing that screws into the television. Is it an American thing? My English televisions don’t even have a screw on port.

I was told that the SMS needs the 75Ohm resistors to display properly, but I don't think this is the case... I get the same problem with a very dark picture on my SMS when using the same RGB SCART cable that I use with my Genesis. I am assuming that this is what you are referring to in the caption in regards to the dark picture? Is this correct?

The French version of the SMS II was still RGB compatible (Peritel) posibly due to some legal requirement (as was the french version of the NES), sadly the rest of europe and the US got the poor deal.

@und4287

4 жыл бұрын

Technically the French NES converted composite to RGB

I play my retro games on my Wii through Virtual Console (It's good for me who don't have money to afford the real cartridges or the space to store them) My Wii is connected to a 21" CRT TV through S-video and my retro games looks really good on it! I tried playing them on an LED TV but it just doesn't do it for me, I'd pick playing on a CRT over an LED or LCD screen any day... Heck, I think even Wii games themselves look better on my CRT being 480p and all, the stretching that happens on a bigger LED or LCD screen makes them look far worse in my opinion...

@ShogunGin0

9 жыл бұрын

Depending on your HDTV, if your Wii is hooked up with component, you should be able to adjust the screen size from 4:3 to 16:9 on the television settings. So if the Wii is set to widescreen, and you play a Virtual Console game which then looks stretched, go to the TV's settings and just choose 4:3, and it will adjust. Just change it back to 16:9 when you get back to the main Wii menu.

@Michirin9801

9 жыл бұрын

ShogunGin0 Yeah, I know that... But we held on to our CRTs in my house and I really much prefer the look of the retro Virtual Console games on the CRT, especially through S-video... That said though I never got a Component cable for the Wii, and I'd like to try it out... Well, I prefer the look of Wii games in my CRT too because the CRT itself is 480p, and so is the Wii's native resolution, that way the games look pretty good because they don't have to stretch to fit the higher resolution of the LED screen... It just looks more natural that way!

@ShogunGin0

9 жыл бұрын

Ruko Michiharu Are you saying your CRT has component inputs? Because if you don't have a component cable for your Wii, then you're not actually running the Wii at 480p since s-video can't carry a 480p signal. And, like the widescreen setting, you have to go to the Wii's settings to make sure it's outputting a 480p signal, or else its just 480i. Unless you're from the PAL regions, in which you also have a 576i option, but 480p is still sharper. Also, some Wii games don't have a widescreen mode built in them (most do), and others have widescreen, but it doesn't seem to be a perfect 16:9. So it depends on the game. That's why some Wii games appear stretched on a widescreen TV, even with the Wii set to widescreen mode. Most PS2 ports to Wii (Okami is an exception) don't have widescreen. Some of the first Wii games don't have widescreen, like Bleach: Shattered Blade and Red Steel. Games like No More Heroes and Boom Blox have widescreen, but the setting isn't as wide as the TV, so you see some black between the game screen and the TV screen edge. In order to tell if the game is being stretched despite the widescreen settings, press the Home button on the Wiimote. If the "Return to Home" prompt is relatively square in the middle, it's fine. But if it is stretched to nearly the edges of the game screen, then the game doesn't have a widescreen mode.

I have the model with the video encoder it says The RGb model ‘ does 837-6700 not output composite ?

Hi nice video!

How do you capture comparisons on the same frames

@mylifeingaming

7 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Usually if it's an action shot that looks too complicated to easily replicate, it's a title screen demo.