If you like seeing the "Big Blows" on Sherman Hill, I'm sure you'll like seeing the double diesels Union Pacific fielded next! See DD35 and DD40 locomotives: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qY13w6VsdNuyebw.html

@alexisdeville3605

5 жыл бұрын

M325 moise

@michaelplumb298

5 жыл бұрын

will we get to see the coal turbine as well?

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelplumb298 I am not sure I have any footage of that experimental engine. It never made it to production... but it was a great experiment!

@tedphillips2501

5 жыл бұрын

They were reliable - to a point. The evolution of the plastics industry raised the cost of the bunker C they used for fuel. But that wasn't the problem. GE Schenectady had turbine blades from these units on display in the building 53 entrance. In spite of the intake filters, coal cinders from the roadbed and assisting steam power still got through and you could see the damage they did to the blades, like they did to boiler flues.

@jerryfoust6794

3 жыл бұрын

I have the reverser plus throttle lever off of #13.

Steam engines and jet engines together. What a time it must have been to see that transition in person !

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

I agree! 1950 to 1970 would have been a railfan's dream!

@lancebaker5007

5 жыл бұрын

It was!!!

@rontroy3843

5 жыл бұрын

That was an amazing site, huge steam and a turbine!

@dobermanpac1064

5 жыл бұрын

Been there done that...I loved/love steam and was torn when things began to change...Steam vs Diesel is like Land line vs Cell I guess you can't get away with the old for long....

@Craig2760

4 жыл бұрын

Hobby Electronics my uncle’s layout is a midwest road, CB&Q circa 1950-1965 so he can run steam and diesel.

I remember running #26 up Sherman Hill in the summer of '58. Really miss the old girl, but man! Putting these into full run with a 6,000 ton train in tow was like a jet engine taking off in terms of how loud it was. Thanks for bringing back old memories!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your memory! I'll bet that was indeed a LOUD locomotive!

@b3j8

5 жыл бұрын

Just curious, did you guys have to wear ear protection? That had to be bad for your hearing even though you were in the cab.

@foxtrot7747

5 жыл бұрын

@@b3j8 It wasn't required, but most of us did. It was incredibly loud!

@foxtrot7747

5 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot Holy cow. You better believe it.

@b3j8

5 жыл бұрын

@@foxtrot7747 I believe it! Thanks for the reply!

The Union Pacific has a thing for operating the most powerful locomotives available.

@jed-henrywitkowski6470

4 жыл бұрын

If America were a vehicle, it'd be a UP loco. Big. Powerful and you can not ignore us.

@Alex-uy7pc

3 жыл бұрын

@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 it's just a product of geography.

@rustyshackleford6637

2 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when yo ass have to climb wasatch grade

Biggest p.r. issue with these were the noise, but an awesome example of U.P. 's commitment to exploring all technology available to them

@tylerbonser7686

5 жыл бұрын

when the cost of bunker c fuel went up it was no longer cost effective to run them

@davidelliott5843

4 жыл бұрын

Has turbine generators are incredibly inefficient unless that exhaust heat can be captured. It’s done in CCGT power plants but there would not be enough space on a rail loco.

@gregrowe1168

3 жыл бұрын

And diesel locomotive hp went up by the late 60s. Those little f units got replaced by much more powerful engines.

My grampa and my dad both worked for the UP. I was born in Cheyenne and lived across from the switch yards. I remember one summer they brought a steam engine on streets to the park. Kept taking the track from behind and putting it the next length in front. Great memories attached to the sounds and sights of steam. Thank you for the videos...

I completed 38 years service on the railways in Australia , since early retirement watching material like this is bittersweet , I suppose nostalgia is always like that , great days when you could say you were a real "railway man" , I don't think that title can be applied today in the same spirit .

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

What a great career!! There are a lot of railway men (and women) working the rails today.

You know...I see a lot of videos like this where the people posting it basically forget about it and never interact with the comment section. I want to take a moment and thank Railfan Depot for interacting with many of us here in the comments, Good on you. BTW, love the video as well. :)

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome... we are railfans too, so we enjoy the comments and the back and forth.

That is some rather special footage - a friggin' Challenger being used *as a switching locomotive* for an early turbine. Alot of the MU lashups were originally because the turbines had a nasty habit of flaming out, especially in the tunnels on the eastern side of Wyoming. The diesels would keep the train rolling long enough for the turbines to get out of the tunnels and do a restart, then they'd take over again. They also provided switching power, since the turbines had exactly two settings: "Off" and "Katy Bar the Door". (Or "suck" and "blow" if the conductor wasn't in earshot). It was also why they originally split the units; the head unit of the last-generation turbines had a small prime mover to roll it during switching maneuvers.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, those turbines could go out .. and then be "re-lit" all on the fly!

Wow. Turbines, diesels, challengers all slaving up the grade - totally outstanding!! Thanks.

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! :-) - DeAnn

Nice video, I grew up In Ogden Utah at the time Union Pacific used the turbines. I recall seeing them at the head of most any freight train in Weber or Echo canyon. In the early to mid 1950's, it was not unusual to see an east bound freight with a turbine on the point and a Challenger helper pushing at the rear. I have many fond memories of these mighty machines.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, they are mighty machines! We have some video of the turbines in Echo Canyon. Maybe we can dig that up and make another KZread video with those clips. Thanks!!

@rayc.8555

5 жыл бұрын

I wish I could have seen that. i live in Ogden and enjoy the train museum there.

This type of channel is the way to create more rail fans. Keep up the good work, and thank you!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! We're going to keep it up... more railfans is great!!

Great scenes of the turbines!

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the note!! - DeAnn

My grandparents lived in Laramie, WY for many years beginning in the 1930s, I believe, and up until 1967 when my grandfather passed away. In the 1950s, during visits to my grandparents' home, my dad and my grandpa used to take me downtown to the viaduct that ran over the UP tracks so we could watch all the big UP steam locos and the earlier model turbines departing for the trip up "the hill". It was great fun. On the viaduct you could feel the heat generated and be completely "consumed" by the steam and smoke. It made me a lifelong railroad fan!

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the ultimate railfan experience...especially since you could do it with your father and grandfather. 😀 Thanks for the note. - DeAnn

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

@William Sullivan Sounds like great memories! :-) -DeAnn

I fell in love with trains at age 10 on a trip from Cedar Rapids to Portland Oregon in the Domeliner. Wow! What a feeling. Thanks!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

My first train was an O Scale from my Dad when I was very, very young. Since then I graduated to 1:1 scale. :-)

Nothing like the sound of those turbines. Unique. The original power for our HST was the same, utterly unique, equally memorable

Those diesels are awesome looking with those extra tenders

@Railfandepot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I agree, and those are BIG tenders! - DeAnn

I remember as a young man listening to the old steam engines when my family visited hickory flat Mississippi. Then later on i remember those more modern engines going down the track. I really like the roar of those turbine engines.

@Railfandepot

Жыл бұрын

Were they as loud as others have said? Thank you for watching! -DeAnn

Sure would be Great if UP would restore a "Big Blow" and add it to the Heritage / Steam fleet along with the E-units. Great Video - Thank You, and greatly appreciate all the work you put into all your train videos!! Thanks again.

“The Big Blows” 😍😍These are my favorite O-scale trains in my collection.

Union Pacific's thirty 8500hp gas turbines were delivered between August 1958 and June 1961. The first to be retired were the first four

A turbine and 3 diesels... Must've been a great sound

@fhqwgads2

5 жыл бұрын

You'd never hear the diesels. It would be like three kazoos next to a chainsaw!

I never knew these were so successful... Like a lot of strange locos, I figured they just built a couple and retired them after a few years... These things had a *long* run! Would be nice if UP restored one of these as well someday?

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Wow... would that be fantastic!! Never say never I suppose but turbines are not the PR coup that the Big Boy will be. Steam is ingrained into our history as a country.

@JungleYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot Yeah, I hear you... But after seeing the beautiful restoration on #4014, I am convinced their guys can do almost anything! Plus, there is so much more experience in jet turbine technology today.

@wesw9586

5 жыл бұрын

Would be nice. The turbines are way cooler than the Centennials and they do keep that DDA40 running.

@kiwitrainguy

5 жыл бұрын

One of the last batch of Turbines is sitting near Ogden UT railway station.

@JETZcorp

4 жыл бұрын

Getting a turbine running would be pretty easy. If I've read correctly, it was basically an LM1500, which is based on the J79 F-4 Phantom engine and still a very common and popular industrial engine. Just go out and buy one and bolt it in. Problem is you can't take it anywhere, because if it was too loud for the 1960s, imagine taking it into Los Angeles today! Besides, 844 is overkill for a passenger excursion, 4014 is double overkill, and a Big Blow would never get out of Notch 2. Lol.

The stories that the old guys tell about these units are pretty impressive. One story tells of one of these giants melting part of a highway overpass. One of my favorites is how Union Pacific decided to take one of the things to Los Angeles. Yeah, that only happened once...

@truckerkevthepaidtourist

8 ай бұрын

Lol Yes cities in California literally banned them for noise

When I saw UP 26 I jumped for joy since I live in Utah and see it when I go to Ogden. It was cool seeing it in action.

My favourite locomotive, what a machine with all that effortless power, makes me misty eyed almost.

The pure heaven of the sound of the Big Boy.

Excellent footage. Many thanks.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!!

Outstanding Units , tremendous power .

Awesome clip. Thanx for posting!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

James, DeAnn here... thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching!

Thanks for bringing back memories from many years ago watching the “big blow” engines in Cheyenne WY in the late 1960’s

That last scene with the two era's of trains on the same climb, very cool and dam that Loco made smile, although the turbine sailing past assisted, that ol steam machine was putting some serious power to the ground. That's legend stuff there🙏

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

This is DeAnn... what can I say? I agree!

You guys have made the start of my 2019 a good one I used to have the original VHS tape of The Battle Up Sherman Hill. Just ordered the DVD version form your website. HAPPY NEW YEAR :)

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the order... I am sure you will not be disappointed. We had the show digitally remastered by a pro - from the original master - and it looks great!!

All that needs to be said is amazing power 10K HP capable of hauling 735 cars on level track. Really enjoyed the video

One of my favorite locomotives

Pure delight! Thank you!

Great action film footage, thank you.

Impressive video!!! These turbine locomotives were powerful and my guess is, they were also extremely reliable....Awesome footage!!!

Nice to see these older locomotives in action Keep them coming.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

We plan on it! In the hopper right now is old film from Chicago's trolley days and another 4014 tribute. Lots more coming! :-)

The steam/turbine side by side at the end gave me goose bumps! Good stuff.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@kiwidiesel

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't it just, Big boy was hammer down! Turbine might be loudest but you just can't beat the visual sight of steam in action along with that piston stroke sound

Man that sound of those turbines plus emds together must bin awsome wish I could have seen here it in person.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

I understand those turbines could be LOUD! :-)

@keithgoodrich9516

5 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot Loud does not describe the sound of the big turbine. Close to standing behind a 747 at full take off power.

@4321grp

5 жыл бұрын

The loudness of the diesel engines was nothing compared to the loudness of the turbine's exhaust!

@rickygarcia7400

5 жыл бұрын

4321grp io I'm shure they did drown out the emds

@rickygarcia7400

5 жыл бұрын

4321grp guys it's like whow the EMDs drown out the GEs.

Fantastic video! Union Pacific is my favorite railroad behind the Pennsylvania, they had such an incredible assortment of motive power. I so wish we did like the days of old and experimented with varying types of powerplants!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, both the UP and PRR liked to experiment with motive power!

I spent many days here in SE Wyoming and Sherman Hill! My Late Brother In Law William Bill Riley Sr operated out of NP Nebraska to Cheyenne Wyoming, he even operated UP8444 and is Posthumously received the Golden Spike Award!

amazing video thank you

great video

@JENKEM1000

3 жыл бұрын

great cleavage

Union Pacific has had so many different power combos through the years and has never been afraid to try new technology. The U50's with the aluminum wiring fiasco causing fires to the 3 versions of the turbines! The Super Turbines are definitely my favorite behind the Big Boys and Challengers! I can't wait for Scale Trains to start their new production run of Super Turbines in HO Scale!! Great channel! I really enjoy it!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice words about the channel! :-) I did not know a Turbine was scheduled for model production. I will need to get in line!!

@tulyar1043

5 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Ford Scaletrains are rerunning the UP turbine? When was this announced? Thanks.

@jeffreyford3259

5 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot yes indeed scale trains actually is creating the model they were two guys who actually used to work for athearn and they ventured out on their own and probably got in a little deeper than they thought producing the super turbine as their first model but as I understand it the first production run had a little bit of an issue with some of the connections and stuff with the motors handsome reliability issues as well but the second run that they're going to produce this year is supposed to be a lot better so we will have to see all I know is I want to get my order in as soon as possible I emailed them to get updates

what an incredible video. Wish i was older to have seen some of these incredible locomotives.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. These are a sight to behold in film, they must have been truly a wonder in person!

Wow, thanks for making this awesome UP Turbine Video! I like it when the turbine is paired with a Big Boy steamer. 🤩

So cool to see the Big Boy helping out the newer generation equipment.

My best memories with that kind of locomotive, my home was near the railroad in my city.

I had a family member who was a UP engineer working out of Ogden. He was Turbine qualified and absolutely loved those GE Turbine units.Especially the 3 unit combo's. Fast, strong pullers and dependable.

@Railfandepot

4 жыл бұрын

And they sure are interesting! I'll bet he some great stories!

Beautiful piece thank you big boy honkhonk

Awesome video TY for sharing

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome! Thanks for watching!

One of the most interesting rail videos I have ever seen. In fact, never seen anything like it. Steam with turbines? Turbines with diesel engines, many of them B units? Just a rail fan's delight. Thank you!

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome! Thanks for watching. - DeAnn

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU for watching! :-)

this is awesome... thanks !

A Big Boy and Turbine. Now that an “Odd Couple.” I love the turbines! Can’t help but speculate on a return to gas turbine testing with today’s technology and software programs. And, if there were a few of the double units still laying around as test beds.

@Railfandepot

2 жыл бұрын

Turbines and steam... what a combination! If they could get the fuel efficiency up and noise level down it would certainly be something to see! Thanks for watching. -DeAnn

Exemplary railfan vid. Well done and thanks very much!

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

We enjoy bringing you these videos! - DeAnn

Big blows aside Big Boys on Sherman Hill whar a time for tail fans thanks for uploading and to Union Pacific

@Railfandepot

Жыл бұрын

Turbines, Big Boys and First and Second Generation diesels... you are correct, a great time to be a railfan on Sherman Hill. Thanks for watching! -DeAnn

Thanks for the great video

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Super happy to provide it... thanks for watching! :-)

A great video about the UP turbine engines.

It just blows me away that we can and have invented and built these incredible creations.😊

O had only heard of these GIANT'S, unroll I saw them here. Thank You.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome. :-)

Simply amazing

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Thank you for watching! -DeAnn

Nice! Man, I sure love these turbines, especially the Big Blows and the Verandas! I hope we can see Coal Turbine #80 someday.

Great Video !!

10,000 HP? That's beast mode!

Great video. The 8500 turbines are now my favorite locomotives. I wish I was alive back then to see them run

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! They are amazing machines! I think we have 3 DVDs on the turbines. They are all good sellers.

So far, this is the best collection of Turbine clips that I have seen/found. This is my first acquaintance with your site. I'll go back to see what I've been missing.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! We have several videos just about ready to upload.. So there will be more! 😀

Magnificent!

Wow. Love the history, very interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍

@Railfandepot

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! More videos up now and more on the way. Thank you for watching! -DeAnn

@runswithwolf7498

Жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot 😀

That's some great history.

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

We've got some more history and video on the Turbines coming soon! -Tim

I could only imagine the noise that they make! I bet they had a prodigious thirst, probably prodigious squared! Hi from NZ, Anthony

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct on both counts... they were loud...and thirsty!

really neat. thanks

Awesome Railroad power!!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

The UP turbines were truly awesome, groundbreaking machines... yes, the railroad world moved on, but that does not take away from all these engines were/are.

Thanks for a very interesting video, i've not seen this much over the years regarding these locos. 👍👍😊

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

These are fascinating beasts! Thanks for watching! -DeAnn

Wonderful video of the turbines!

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks, Bruce. Thank you for watching!! -DeAnn

This one made my day! EMDs! Steam! Turbines!

Great Video showing Union Pacific in it's Glory Days. A Happy new subscriber. Cheers from Australia. Denis.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dennis! Australia is on the bucket list for me!

@denismay6011

5 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot G'day, Our part of the country, Townsville is best to visit in April/August that's our Winter, but still 30 degrees Celcius. Too Bloody hot the rest of the year. Cheers, Denis.

@JR1300r

3 жыл бұрын

@@Railfandepot when you visit Ozzie come to Lake Conjola 2539 NSW We don't have trains here but the weather is great all the time of the year Cheers

Good videos, thanks for sharing them. One common misconception is that turbine-steam double-heading was done to move heavy trains. They did not do this for several reasons, primarily because of a union agreement that resulted in significant penalties (double pay) if tonnage exceeded the rating for a single locomotive. In fact, double heading was done simply to reposition engines to other terminals for maintenance or due to power imbalances. This has been mentioned several times in recent articles in UP Historical Society's magazine, The Streamliner.

@Railfandepot

2 жыл бұрын

Mark, yes - the turbines, and other UP power of the time, were built with increasing horsepower ratings exactly so trains did not need more than one engine (unless in a helper situation). Design requirements for the Big Boy, for instance, were to get that high horsepower/traction so that one engine could handle a train by itself over the Wasatch Range. -Tim

I read somewhere they were hell on tunnels. The turbine exhaust was so hot blowing on the roof of the tunnels, it would blast off chunks of concrete.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I've not heard that... But I can certainly see that happening!!

@simonm1447

3 жыл бұрын

The problem concrete has with heat is because it always contains water. If you heat concrete too much the water inside starts to vaporize, expands and the water vapor blasts of parts of the concrete surface. This is also what happens in the case of tunnel fires.

Yum, more please!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

We have more on several subjects coming up! :-)

I've had the opportunity to be with the crew of a working steam locomotive and made more than one trip on the Texas State Railroad. Long live Big Boy!

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

You are a lucky guy!!

@diddlebug7241

5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed every trip and also was able to help ready a locomotive for the day's run. Steam rules.

Aren't you glad Big Boy 4014 is back alive after it's 60 year slumber? It's iconic to the US as much as the Shinkensen trains are to Japan.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! I'm still in a little bit of disbelief!! But, seeing is believing... We have a film crew there and how to have new video soon.

This was very cool!

I had a Video about Sherman Hill years ago but i lost it thanks for sharing this Railfan Depot

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

We're happy to provide this video! The entire DVD is very interesting... includes steam and the double diesels on the hill too. rfd.vido/Battle Sherman

Very Nice Video !

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!!

Excellent video

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Thanks for the very interesting video. I have to say the sound of the turbine engines is weird and unsettling!

I really enjoyed this video.

@Railfandepot

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching! -DeAnn

Really nice video

You got me so I've hitted the sub button thanks for all this excelent footage

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

DeAnn here... Thanks for the note! More excellent footage on the way! 😀

My father was a railroader during the 1940's and 50's, so it's in my DNA so to speak. I came very close to becoming a railroader myself, but chose to drive a big rig instead, but i still love to watch trains in real time or in videos. My nephew does as well.

Beautiful and lovely.

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed! :-)

0_o Up 4014 + Up 26 + Up 26b and 26c = strongest locomotive power ever in the U.S.A. xD

@russetwolf13

3 жыл бұрын

You should head down to Ogden, we just painted UP 26 and she doesn't look quite like she's been left in the open for decades.

Thanks great stuff folks

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! DeAnn here and I do appreciate the kind note. :-) We both enjoy trains! :-)

Excellent!!

That turbine engine might have been rolling along faster with other helper units, but 844 was running unassisted up the hill. Awesome stuff

@Railfandepot

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!! :-)

@ohboy3622

5 жыл бұрын

These gas turbines could outpull any steam locomotive. 844 might have been unassisted but that’s because it wasn’t pulling near the weight.

@bigglilwayne7050

Жыл бұрын

844 is definitely the coolest and fastest locomotive in the fleet

Great video

@Railfandepot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - and for the comment. :-) -DeAnn

Wow, tts just great, I wish I would have seen them pull