Section 194 | Verbal sparring between Madonsela, Mpofu and Dyantyi at Mkhwebane inquiry
Former Public Protector Thuli Madonsela is this morning appearing before the parliamentary inquiry into the fitness of her successor, Busisiwe Mkhwebane, to hold office. The committee had initially decided that Madonsela would no longer be required to give oral evidence. Mkhwebane's legal representative Dali Mpofu had threatened to take the committee to court over that decision.
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D Mpofu intoxicated by the exuberance of his own verbosity.
@ntatemohlomi2884
Жыл бұрын
In short the man is full of it?
@hiddyboy101
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it any more verbosely than that...Dali is a joke
@dukemasengana3388
Жыл бұрын
Respect. Very impressed with your words choice 😂👍
@nivob4076
2 ай бұрын
He should climb his ego and jump down to his intellect
@johanroos699
2 ай бұрын
@@nivob4076 very clever!!
Dali mpofu is over rated, he loses all his bid on cases in court from Zuma to the latest one, a complete fail I wonder why they still hire him.
@mphomangole3768
Жыл бұрын
I am also wonder why're they still hire him. I remember 13 soldiers refusing to be represented by him.
Dali Mpofu is an embarrassment to the profession.He likes the sound of his own voice.
@timsambro
Жыл бұрын
I agree...
@thokozanidetermbatha4008
Жыл бұрын
How else do you defend your client(s) if you're not going to root out all the mistakes you spotted? The immediate argument here is whether there's an affidavit or NOT he has outline that for many times and Thuli been calling him LOW.
@thokozanidetermbatha4008
Жыл бұрын
@@timsambro You agree on what? This aforementioned nonsense? How can someone spoon feed you poison at your hawk eyes? Ramaphosa saw it coming and did what Zuma did to Pravin impeach them before they explode. He saw his matter what in the public interest and therefore the trusted public protector should look into the matter and make recommendations exactly like Thuli madonsela did to Jacob Zuma and he was found to have misused tax payers funds and order to payback the money.
@timsambro
Жыл бұрын
@@thokozanidetermbatha4008 who do you think you are telling me what to agree to or not. Your arrogance is appalling, to say the least 🤬
@ncebantweni5433
Жыл бұрын
@@thokozanidetermbatha4008 you don't defend your client by waffling and throwing innuendos and mud,hoping some will stick. It's no wonder he loses so much. Sticking to the letter of the law is important.He gets shown up each time for his lack of knowledge of the interpretation of the law.
I just wonder how would Mpofu feel about watching this? He’s a disgrace
@rockyrock925
Жыл бұрын
Chair dont get emotional...u not really inchangé u just playing à rôle similar to that of à bus conductor. And u are being agitated....relax dude... howmuch were u paid to ensure u dont hv to refund at the end of the day.
@sifiso-gumedes-world
Жыл бұрын
@@rockyrock925 chair don’t get emotional? Who said anything about a chair. I watched the whole thing, angikhulumi nga chair, refund yamasimba.
@sybongawiseman7565
10 ай бұрын
It's a politic game,you see anyone who is against Mpofu here is assisting Ramaphosa to get rid of Mkhwebane on the office so She'll put T Gcaleka officially.its politic game.
It beggars belief to observe this charade which allows Mpofu to carry on with the sole purpose of prolonging the proceedings rather than demonstrating the innocence of his client. It makes a mockery of parliament and legal processes. One would have thought the chairperson should move things along.
Truth be told, Madonsela handled Mpfofu like nobody’s business
@dukemasengana3388
Жыл бұрын
Nosebleed for Mpofu. 🤣🤣👍
@SuperiorRecaps
Жыл бұрын
She cooked and ate.
Dali Mpofu is an embarrassment to the legal system, he should be dismissed from court.
@SetshogoPetrusMoloko
6 ай бұрын
A real revolutionary in my eyes...
Why does Dali behave as if Thuli faces impeachment and not his own client??
"Please switch off your mic!!" 😂😂😂😂
@sandymachaba9936
Жыл бұрын
Lol.That was nasty😂
@emmahmasilela6770
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@menace353
Жыл бұрын
@@sandymachaba9936 he was getting too comfortable 🤣🤣🤣
This man is rude to everyone. How is this tolerated.
DM brand is always more important than the clients he represents. That's why he represents criminals with no chance of winning cases. As long as he gets exposure. TM outclassed him - class and professionalism
Dali is very indecisive and ambiguity is the order in him
Mpofu doesn't finish his sentences.. He asks questions then say OK forget about than one,
@sushelarajkumar367
Жыл бұрын
Arrogance
Dali is the person that calls you during working and 5min into the call, he still hast gotten to the point of his phone call.
It must be very embarrassing to be Dali yoh for a SC, he's all over the place like a headless chicken. This is what happens when you take losing political cases, but because you have to make your master happy you just take the case and compromise your integrity. Ke sono ka Dali shem. Lol
@manzinin1070
Жыл бұрын
This case is uncharted waters for all involved. It is the first of its kind in our democracy and because of that, everybody is learning on the job, both the commission and the advocates.
@xoxo7411
Жыл бұрын
This inquiry just undermines SA law Mkhwebane was clearly the PP of the Zuma Gang!!! This enquiry shouldn't be allowed to go further wasting our tax money! Mpofu and Mkhwebane are just playing " Matlwantlwane"
@rendaniyeshua5672
Жыл бұрын
That is the problem of buying degrees than going to school, the guy is very embarrassing.
It's so obvious: DM's approach with anyone and everyone in opposition to him is intentionally to litter his interactions with incendiary barbs, accusatory innuendos , subtle threats and teenage sarcasm. His MO is to follow this strategy and continue to bait persons to get them to react emotionally (instead of respond). I think he has a fair legal mind but his character is his biggest weakness and it's sad (in fact laughable) that he himself doesn't see how his own tactics discredit him and prejudice his client . Does he really think that people don't see what he's trying to do? TM is maintaining her dignity and composure. Interesting to watch indeed.
@hadjira
Жыл бұрын
This Dali has no respect. He is..... Let me breathe
@tulanintombela3113
Жыл бұрын
accurate commentary
@marvingaye9089
Жыл бұрын
You capture it all in this comment 👏🏾. Reminds me of the McCarthy hearings during the height of the Communism infiltration scare in America. McCarthy turned to belittling, casting aspersions and demeaning those who he thought were not holding his line of thought
Mpofu, as much as he likes to think he is a hotshot lawyer, is completely out matched by Thuli Madonsela. She is in a much higher league than o'l EFF Dali.
@dumisaninxumalo7574
Жыл бұрын
Just one English question and yiou get confused then you become a judge to try and prove that you can hear what they are saying,Our education system failing us again.
@sphamandlambatha9231
Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard Thuli raising reasonable points it is her who made 2 affidavits after all
@SENSEOFHUMOR174
Жыл бұрын
@@dumisaninxumalo7574 😢🤣😂
@timtam9646
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.. he is a real thick head thinking he is smart . His a sophisticated copy cat
@cassiusmngomezulu916
Жыл бұрын
Don't lie, Just because you hate someone, does that mean every She/he its wrong?
Chair is flames
@kha2slamza670
Жыл бұрын
He knows very well how to deal with the arrogance of Dali Mpofu. He knows how to put him to he's place nicely. Lol
Dali Mpho you are bringing your profession into disrepute!
Mpofu is very arrogant and very silly at times.
Mpofu is incredibly arrogant and disrespectful!
Dali Mpofu is all thunder and no lightning. He's too emotional and did such a great disservice to Zuma. What a shame of a lawyer...
Dali seems to be lost in his questioning what kind of attorney is he, start with something then changes his mind seems like he is lost when asked what is the law
@luxiemaharaj7263
Жыл бұрын
His arguments are always scattered... Makes no sense
Professor of Law Advocate Thulisile Nomkhosi "Thuli" Madonsela has forgotten MORE South African Law than Busisiwe Mkhwebane and Mpofu ( Her Lawyer) will EVER Know. She's Brillant when it comes to South African Law. She currently holds a chair in social justice at Stellenbosch University and has been there since 2018. She was also South Africa's Public Protector from 19 October 2009 to 14 October 2016. Other organizations are Constantly asking for Professor Madonsela's legal Opinion. I have seen NONE asking the same from Busisiwe Mkhwebane.
@ToxxicMafia
Жыл бұрын
forgotten?
@ephraimchingarande2068
Жыл бұрын
We all know what is happening here, Thuli is handled by stellenbosch mafia she is white-washed. She has always been used by Whites to fight blacks that's a fact
@amm7088
Жыл бұрын
@ Thomas because she is a puppet and zumas and now flippy floppies (malemas) favorite puppet😺
@gideonmthembu8693
Жыл бұрын
@vthomas, let's wait to watch where will Mkhwebane ends up after her term. A recognition may be hard to come for her. She is just too controversial. May be she will join the Dali Law firm and prosper from that point; am only wondering.
@khumomolefe5064
Жыл бұрын
Why did she play in the mud with the pig
Beyond his own head, mpofu comes across as foolish.
This Mpofu guy is starting to sound like he is smoking something serious, so much mumbling 🗣️
Adv mofu needs put on lair decting machine he (adv mofu) will fail test
I wonder if Dali will come to any credible points of arguments here or he is just happy to create more circus for this PP enquiry?
@merle-wq9ir
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@Marvindarull3r
Жыл бұрын
He did...your Thuli committed fraud
@gideonmthembu8693
Жыл бұрын
@@Marvindarull3r I don't think Dali got the point clear on what he termed illegal affidavit. Thuli explained all the docs signed, cosigned and even the electronic versions, but Dali had his own narratives which is black paint the former PP. Besides, this enquiry is not about Thuli. Thuli never made Busi get this impeachment exercise. Dali has spent the whole day trying to box a wrong person who finished her term long time ago and who is at peace with her departure from that hhovice. This is indeed a dollar spinner for the Dali team.
@thokozanidetermbatha4008
Жыл бұрын
@@gideonmthembu8693 How else do you defend your client(s) if you're not going to root out all the mistakes you spotted? The immediate question here is whether there's an affidavit t or NOT if there's none then adjourned.
@stifler5062
Жыл бұрын
U mean him getting paid for this hogwash
Well done madam madosela
Dali Mpofi is such an embarrassment, how did he become a lawyer.
@isaac4935
Жыл бұрын
the same way that people who want to be lawyers become lawyers. Lubasi I am sure you can reason better than this
@lolo41645
Жыл бұрын
Hawu
@tshepotshepza8866
Жыл бұрын
By obtaining 50% pass mark 😒
@isaac4935
Жыл бұрын
@@tshepotshepza8866 all universaities their pass mark is 50% in south africa, unless i am missing something
@tshepotshepza8866
Жыл бұрын
@@isaac4935 my point is hee passed with the bare minimum, 50% pass to me means you only know half of the material you were given, how then can you be the best in your field
Mpofufu is a flat wheel an yet so arrogant I really don't understand, I wonder if he listens to himself tjrr
Mpofu is so arrogant he doesn’t even see he's making a clown of himself
Wow Advocate Thuli Madonsela is taking Advocate Dali Mpofu to the cleaners
@tulanintombela3113
Жыл бұрын
tell me about it😆
Misogyny bleeds into a lot of aspects, sadly even to those who embody it... thank you Thuli for schooling this man and putting him in his place!
Mpofu is asking irrelevant questions. He use his arrogant and anger issues,he must go for counselling this really needs spacial attention. He dosnt act like a nomal advocate is more of violence in all cases.
Is this guy really a lawyer, can never be….who hires him
Mpofu is full of Eff tone
Why do people use this useless advocate he loses all the cases Act like he knows everything including the judges thinks they doing wrong against him but as I’m am concerned I will never use a useless advocate to handle a case for me No respect for anyone
This dude can't even complete his sentences. His train of thought is non-existent...
Mpofu has no manners
Mpofu sounds very dom
Dali Mpofu struggles to stay on one line of questioning, forget that, let's move on to something else.🤔
@sushelarajkumar367
Жыл бұрын
It's a fact n it's sickening
"Are your feelings better now".. Dali mpufo to the chair
@johannesjohannesj.m9061
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Advocate Teffo
Chair you called him in order Mpofu cause is asking irrelavant questions which is not supported by any rule of law.
Dali Mpofu, u are such a disaster, YOO! I can't believe this ! i have always rated u high i did not know that poor grade was hiding within you, in this matter you have been exposed very badly. By the way which University did u graduate from?
Dali Mpofu is no coconut...he is not as shallow as you'd prefer him to be. No aspersions hold any weight against him so far as many of us Black people are concerned.
The amount of unprofessionalism on display is shocking
At some point there should a rule that clamps Mpofu's shenanigans. All the cases he handles are a joke . .And tax payers money. He is stealing in a way.
Mpofu is wasting Tax money. He becomes rude if he is losing. He is up there because of his relationship with Winnie Mandela
Dali Mpofu is just all over the floor. I think he's over exaggerated.
Don't go all over the place,if you don't want to be taken all over the place,chairpepper.
An average lawyer with a silver tongue,can seem impressive to anyone...except his peers. Thats Mpofu for you.
Mama mandonsela she is a professional with out any doubt
Mpofu u think u know everything listen 👂 to other people
an angry stellenbosch makoti,a phala phala chairperson,madonsela of stellenbosch mafia.
This guy this time meet his match .
@lugisanimufamadi
Жыл бұрын
HE IS NO MATCH TO THULI. HE DOESN'T DESERVE THE POSITION YOU ARE PUTTING HIM. HE WAS OUTMATCHED & OUTCLASSED. HE IS PRIMARY SCHOOL & THULI IS TERTIARY
Mpofu is condersending period!
@palesambele1397
Жыл бұрын
Yhoo...too much,and rude😮
Strange how its only these who never make sense. Or only make sense after agonising waffling
I've always hoped and prayed that Madam Thuli Madonsela, would be our president. I still hold out hope.
@nononsense7019
Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@nthabibotsi9855
Жыл бұрын
Really ❓
@iqbalmohamed5128
Жыл бұрын
@@nthabibotsi9855 Why not? Can a Black Woman, who is honest, highly qualified, brave, unbiased, totally professional, without fear or favour, not be the President of SA?
@edmundsishange3608
Жыл бұрын
Are you serious? We have enough sellouts running this country already, we can do without Thuli
@iqbalmohamed5128
Жыл бұрын
@@edmundsishange3608 ok. I'll bite. Educate me. Who would be your choice for president?
I think Mama Madonsela is a brilliant woman outside the law parameters & Ntate Dali Mpofu for this episode tried but she is indeed advance 👏 de change on de bases of accusing her is not substantial enough but we shall see how it goes
This chairperson Ayi madoda!🤣🙆🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
This is more than personal for the chair.
@MrSihle1
Жыл бұрын
Mpofu started
This incompetent Dali Mpofu arguing with an intelligent woman who is classy and poise & professional who has received the highest Knight of the legion of Honour award. He is an embarrassment attacking a woman of international women's Day about her looks. ADV Madonsela is beautiful and intelligent...thank you for putting him in his place finally someone did so. Mpofu old man who thinks highly of himself, with his bougy attitude.
@ngcebondebele597
Жыл бұрын
Classy woman? At least Dali is a real Advocate..your Darling Thuli is a Scam....She lied to us that she is an Advocate...
@lugisanimufamadi
Жыл бұрын
INDEED THULI IS VERY BEAUTIFUL IN HER RIGHT.
Absolute disgrace to the legal profession. This is like a mall kop 😊😅😅
Madonsela is a gracious champion that is unmoved by this false persecution. I applaud her consistent dignity and unswerveable logic.
I would have thought the verbal sparring required an intellect
Thuli ATE Dali Dali is incompetent
Thuli for president
Adv Mpofu is a showboat. He does a lot of spray painting and then acts when he sees something sticking. I will never never ever appoint him as an Advocate to represent me. However people that needs a " Showman" will appoint him and pay his absurd fees.
Huge unprofessional behaviors by too many professionals here.
There's a few-seconds-delay between the 'Dali-Lama's' thought-processes and his verbal articulation. Maybe, just maybe, he needs to spend more time with Gayton McKenzie who thinks on his feet and speaks unhesitantly. I'm just saying...
At what point does it become clear to everyone that the chairperson is no longer impartial & can no longer be trusted to adjudicate this case without prejudice. I know nothing of law but every time I watch this I'm struck by his excesses directed at Mpofu. Mpofu has his weaknesses & I'm not here to defend him, but these processes/proceedings can't be reduced to processes for rubberstamping executive decisions so long as their are in line with the interests of the incumbent.
@feizalmoolla1946
Жыл бұрын
please the guy mpofu is ridiculous
@nkululekomasondo9274
Жыл бұрын
You clearly on drugs aswell
@elkanmogaetsho637
Жыл бұрын
@@feizalmoolla1946 You are right you know nothing about law and why should you question something you do not know?
@leboramoreboli7950
Жыл бұрын
I think that the chairperson has made up his mind. He is just going through the motions.
The chairperson is incapable of impartiality.
respect in conversation may not necessarily mean that the facts are accurate, it may even be used patronisingly as a form of passive aggression, eliciting a specific response to overshadow the opponents arguments.
@khaulezaskhosana5062
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and that's what seems to be happening.
@amm7088
Жыл бұрын
@ Dancun chiriga maybe in your side of the world ‘ it is an insult to even compare the intellect of Ms Thuli to Dhali
Eric Hoffer"Rudenessis is the weak man's imitation of strength ".
Mpofu and mkhwebane are captured.
Ayy lobaba uDali bakithi is very confused and confusing others
yesss
Has D Mpofu ever won a case ?
@Marvindarull3r
Жыл бұрын
Yes many
@giftrasenyalo8576
Жыл бұрын
@@Marvindarull3r name one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s why even eff members don’t even consider themselves for his services
@sushelarajkumar367
Жыл бұрын
@@Marvindarull3rwhere?
@Marvindarull3r
Жыл бұрын
@@sushelarajkumar367 striking mine worker of Marikana,Tom moyane and he is wiping the floor for mkwhebane... don't let your hatred for EFF expose your stupidity
Indeed,with some people, the years of enrollment as an Advocate do not match the "articulation" you would expect the experience to give.
cant string a sentence
He does not give up, the only way to resolve this is to kick out Mpofu
Mpofu is such an embarrassment. He has no legal prowess. He just sprouts nonsensical polemic, and hopes that no one notices that there is no legal basis for what he's saying. This is not a debate class Mpofu
@sushelarajkumar367
Жыл бұрын
Truth be told
See mpofu wriggle. Is he drunk or just tired? Typical EFF theatrics. There are words for lawyers who behave as he does. Go ahead... look them up
is this the law or the abuse of the law
Be firm Mr Chairperson. Mpofu is full of unnecessary jokes. Jerrrrr what a wasted of money and years studying . Arrogance destroyed his career not to mention joining young kids at Eff. Oh wasted his career now he's waisting tax payers money.
The legal brains of South Africa are fighting hard to destroy one another. The one in the office is pulled down and the one who has vacated the office, her legacy is being tarnished. Instead of fitness for office enquiry for Adv Mkhwebane, we should be discussing, how can we make her tenure advance the mandate of the public protector.
@leboramoreboli7950
Жыл бұрын
Mkhwebane is being vilified because she's professional and not begging for breadcrumbs from Stellenbosch
This man called Mphufo dali. What a rude irresponsible piece of excuse of a human being. This man DOES NOT REPRESENT THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
i like the way Mpofu was trumped
Mpofu is painful. At R50 000 .00 per day, you must get your full day. When Mpofu goes from Durban to Johannesburg, he goes via Durban Cape Town Johannesburg.
eish people are not safe in these hands i tell you kudlalwa ngabantu nje. More is coming about this lady Madonsela when Phalaphala falls and the praises about her will also be exposed as lies nje
Blah blah blah 😂 a mess
Chairperson arguing????
These three profesionals are the best. Adv Thuli, Dali and the chairperson
There is a book “Servants of the dammed “ that is just like DM .
Just take a look at his Clientele...hang around a barber shop long enough..you are going to eventually get a haircut.
There is a smell of Politic game here.
Thuli is a million times better than you who thinks you know everything but unfortunately you go around in circles without a point .
You said you don't want to create a dialogue,but you are dialoging
The chair is bais, it like he already taken side even before the commission was set.
@amoebaslatoe7925
Жыл бұрын
Educat yourself
@luvuyobosman929
Жыл бұрын
If you have followed this enquiry from last year... It is very obvious that Chair is against Mkhwebane. The witnesses would fail to answer simple questions and be protected by chair
@njabulisonsibande9042
Жыл бұрын
I think he wants progress and wants to get to the core.