MGSV: Mr. Venom overdoses on Ketamine

@PlebNC

3 жыл бұрын

A speedrun to surpass Metal Gear.

@WampaLord

3 жыл бұрын

Stuck in a K hole

@sirdanielfortesque5812

3 жыл бұрын

@@PlebNC I've watched someone play Assassin's Creed on ketamine, when I say play he kept spinning in circles and falling off buildings. He did fall near the objective marker now and again but only to be absolutely gang raped by the enemies nearby as he stood or laid there defenseless.

@sirdanielfortesque5812

3 жыл бұрын

@@PlebNC Ketamine and speedrun go together like peas and custard.

@Ikcatcher

3 жыл бұрын

Skull Face: Please Mr Venom please get me some ketamine I’M FEENING

Ocelot and V rides on the white horse, signifying that their greatness derives from The Boss in some way. And ocelot is the one riding it, and inviting V to ride with him, because he is the one really in control of the MGS franchise

@supremeworld87

2 жыл бұрын

That's stretching it a bit. Ocelot riding the horse is simply a reference to him being the son of the Boss and greatest ally of Big Boss.

I didn't realise Venom Snake was being given ketamine, that's what they gave me in hospital after I nearly died in a hit-and-run a few months ago, explains why the opening of the game is so relatable then! I have complete amnesia for the week I stayed there, I still have no memory of the accident either. Now I'm wondering if I'm the real me or a phantom duplicate.

@theonlybilge

Жыл бұрын

We passed upon a stair

@m.taylor7025

6 ай бұрын

Hoping you're alright from the future... I also never realized this but I can't believe I didn't... Ketamine was uhh... a hobby of mine a long time ago... 🤣

@OperatorVanta

4 ай бұрын

@@theonlybilge We spoke of was and when

@OperatorVanta

4 ай бұрын

@@theonlybilge We spoke of was and when

To my knowledge, this is the only modern fiction that integrates the modern misinterpretation of "1984" with the original point of the novel. Most people these days think it was meant to be about surveillance. They don't realize it was more about language. So much so that Orwell particularly despised the term "Orwellian" because it was a perfect example of what he was trying to warn against doing when it comes to language.

@i777ab

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you fojnd this?

@amazighaichiou4383

2 жыл бұрын

Well I think anyone can get it. If you change the words, you change the world.

@Redbird-dh7mu

2 жыл бұрын

Well, yes and no, Orwell obviously thought that things like Uber authoritarian governments and that states that spy on their citizens to such an extent are pretty bad. However, that wasn’t his main message. His main message was that it any sort of rebellion already lost. The citizens already speak Newspeak (which is a very simplified language designed to limit how much one can think for themselves and spread any, “dangerous”, ideas). They already lost, they couldn’t win from the beginning, the game was rigged from the start. That is the point of the book, the party already won by basically guaranteeing that any possible rebellion is going to be a few people that won’t even hold those, “dangerous ideas”, for a while and might only be able to share them with a few others. That is the party’s power, not knowing what you are doing 24/7.

@thompkins6796

2 жыл бұрын

The common misuse of "Orwellian" is one of my biggest pet peeves. It's usually clear that anytime it's used the person hasn't read the book since high school and they're just using it because they heard someone else use it to describe surveillance/big tech/censorship etc.

@InitialFailure

Жыл бұрын

@thompkins6796 Orwellian, of, relating to, or suggestive of George Orwell or his writings -Websters. Surveillance occurred in the book 1984, and thus, one is not wrong for using the term in response to government surveillance, according to Websters anyways.

This is the first time I've noticed that when he punches the mirror his reflection alternated in the shattered fragments. He punches with his prosthetic, but a whole arm is in the reflection, and the horn disappears from his head. I feel stupid.

@BigBoss-zg1df

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel stupid

@denkerbosu3551

3 жыл бұрын

So, what the hell happened whenever we used our rocket arm? Venom Snake MUST have had a prosthetic arm.

@cezerelecrucio9717

3 жыл бұрын

@@denkerbosu3551 He does. Big Boss doesn't. Venom is staring into his reflection, Big Boss.

@denkerbosu3551

3 жыл бұрын

@@cezerelecrucio9717 oohhhhh, so Big Boss DOESN'T have a prosthetic arm. Ok, I get it now.

@JMartini810

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not at that part in the video yet but it seems after he punches the mirror it's Big Boss when Solid Snake is attacking Outer Heaven

I wish they would add a patch that allows you to replay all the cut scenes after finishing the game

@KingLynnardThaGawd

3 жыл бұрын

KZread and they play when you replay the mission

@hunnerboi8561

3 жыл бұрын

Or a new game plus mode. You have to delete your save file or play on a different account just to replay this game

@justincoggins694

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunnerboi8561 all of your online progress and savings are transferred over, so it makes leveling up and getting new gear way faster.

@trapscancreate5760

3 жыл бұрын

I understand the thaught however implementing the feature would be admitibly difficult due to the nature of the cutscenes themselves. All tended in real time on engine. The game would need to load up an entire stage, populate and call in the nesicary npcs, decide on a lighting and time of day, (normal stuff that is all already loaded by the time players trigger the cutscenes). It would be resource heavy for computers and I can see it being hard to implement. The alternative is having prerecorded cutscenes being stored locally, however that would increase disk space and the recording would have to be of a certain quality to match the real time renders, if that is even possible in itself.

@dicktracey7771

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they had it in mgs3 ffs

We reached the nuclear disarmament yesterday on the ps3. No exploits used. legit.

@Glassandcandy

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that it's virtually impossible to legit do this on PC because there are too many players is fucking depressing, but then again I guess that's kind of the point? Increasing the amount of people who have the possibility of obtaining nuclear weapons exponentially decreases the possibility of total nuclear disarmament. Man, reality is grim. Remember when people thought irl nukes would slowly be fazed out after the end of the cold war? Literally the opposite happened. It was so naïve and hopeful to think anything otherwise :/

@Stanlyy.

3 жыл бұрын

@@Glassandcandy the fact that its virtually is the reason there is no point

@aadipie

3 жыл бұрын

@@Glassandcandy that's sad damn

@mann-nova9392

3 жыл бұрын

I thought this was reached months ago?

@rayobrown

3 жыл бұрын

@@mann-nova9392 no that was on PS4

I can neither agree or disagree with any interpretations presented in this excellent video.

@BigBoss_7191

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely quite the job well done

@jackmistiff5300

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigBoss_7191 or was it?

@Ragna___

3 жыл бұрын

Without permission from the Secretary?

@sonderone3135

2 жыл бұрын

I think he's pretty good

@brandonstewart4032

Жыл бұрын

What about raiden's name being jack❗❓😒😔🤔😱

19:10 you can actually see Ishmael hiding in the doorway when the camera pans around too

Damn, that Jean le Carre quote is so perfect in describing the end of TPP that I'm surprised Kojima didn't actually put it in the game lol

You're telling me that Venom snake in the beginning mission of MGSV is high on ketamine

I always viewed the solution coming from under "Ishmael" as a ruse to make it seem like his body released his urine after death so the soldiers didn't think they'd have to look at him, and that's why they skip over him and immediately go over to Venom afterwards.

I really don't see anything odd about Snake not feeling pain in his arm until it is reset. My TKD coach was in a fight and someone threw a kick which bent his fingers backwards; He said he didn't feel it until he put his fingers back into place.

@Skyfox94

3 жыл бұрын

It's part of a normal shock reaction. I've had quite a bunch of EMTs tell me basically the same thing - they see people walking around after accidents that are completely fucked up and it's only after they start treating them that many show reactions.

@Seprechanus

3 жыл бұрын

Same happened to me during a boxing match. Broke my nose but only realized it afterwards. Must've been All the adrenaline pumping in my blood

@rankalucard3960

3 жыл бұрын

But you know TKD is useless in a real fight right?

@grsimpson3957

3 жыл бұрын

@@rankalucard3960 Good God it is terrible. I think you should only learn it to have an extra skill for Muay Thai or mma. I used to compete in Karate and TKD tournaments but it was wrestling that really taught me how to fight.

@Redbird-dh7mu

2 жыл бұрын

@@grsimpson3957 the problem with a lot of martial arts is that they only fight other people that use said martial arts. Sure, Kung Fu might teach you how to win a fight against another person using Kung Fu, but what if someone just fights plainly without any martial arts or uses something like MMA? How is fighting people that only use Kung Fu going to help you then?

I absolutely love geeking out with you on these videos. Super excited to hear you'll be covering "Kingdom of the Flies" later! One minor quibble: you keep saying Venom "broke" his arm or ankle, when he merely dislocated them. You can't pop a break back in to place 😉

Ishmael dissapearing and taking fatal hits without dying can simply be explained by the fact that he is big boss.

Everything finds a way to be relevant in the MGS universe and I love it for that

Could it also be interpreted that the three pigs by the boss' statue could be alluding to the three sons (solid, liquid and solidus), similar to the boss' fight in mgs3 where the there are three snakes that are named after the sons.

@thanevakarian9762

2 жыл бұрын

And the 4th son. Liquidus

I've said it in another video and I'll say it again: you are doing god's work thank you so so much

Good lord, that audiobook excerpt... I used the audiobook adaptation during high school when I was assigned 1984. Thanks for the flashback.

When I thought he'd fleshed this bit out it turns out he's just getting started. Tremendous knowledge of symbology, mysticism and mythology he's looking at this through I cannot get enough.

I always thought that even if Big Boss woke up before, it was truly the rage inside the Phantom Big Boss that put mantis into notion, even if he wasnt consciously awake. After 5 Big Boss seemed too detached to care about what happened 9 years ago to feel any "venom" inside that could have awakened Mantis.

@supremeworld87

2 жыл бұрын

It was the rage inside Volgin that put Mantis into motion, though Venom briefly hijacks his will during the hospital sequence

The greek sign translates to: Cyprus Riding Club Recreational Organization Recreational Area of Dhekelia

If you wrote your own original series I would purchase it so quick. You have a truly unique perspective and I get overwhelmed telling people about your channel. Incredible work @FuturasoundProductions

I recently finished playing MGSV for the first time and these videos are exactly the type of stuff I was looking for after the end more than wiki articles. Keep it up, they're really well made!

23:00 The discoloration of red to white is also present any time during gameplay when you get a critical injury and have to heal it. Unlike Ground Zeros of course, where the screen goes red, not white.

I like the idea that XOF sees their stealthy assassin come tumbling out a window on fire and immediately panicked and went all hands on deck to kill Snake.

I believe that "Lager" is referring to the german word for "camp". Obvious parallel included.

@fischbob777

Жыл бұрын

also used by russians for gulags (Glávnoje upravlénije lageréj, "chief administration of the camps), as ocelot had worked for the soviet union it seems right

Also that ending part in 47:52 at that exact moment he probably thought: "So this is what eva felt back then when she left me that way huh?" The way he put down the cigar and exales is like he realized or remembered something. Lleaving a man decieved on its own but telling him the truth after she was gone, and now he is doing the same, replicating the meme.

The tapes "revealing"conversations between the real Big Boss and others bring called "The Truth Records," with the first tape in the list being called "Doublethink," is so brilliant

It's a damn crime that Chapter 3 will possibly never see the light of day.

@supremeworld87

2 жыл бұрын

In terms of content I doubt t there was anything beyond episode 51. The game was long enough as it was.

Hey Jorin! Your analyses have inspired me to write some music, thank you for all your thought-provoking content.

I really dug your comments about the ourobouros at the end. I hadn’t ever really made that observation

In most games when there are details like these ones I usually write them off as stuff that really was just a coincidence but never in a Kojima game

Hi there, Cypriot here. The painting at 6:41 could well be one of the archaeological sites in Cyprus. Possibly Amathounta or maybe even one of House of Dionysus or Salamis. Also, not sure if it was mentioned in earlier videos, but the tunnel shown in Cyprus is not from that area, but rather in Paphos, to the east. And the tunnel did not exist in 1984. It was built much later.

Man every one of your videos seems to give me perspective on a new part of any story you cover.

MORE! GIMMIE MORE! This is deeply fascinating.

Great work once again, can’t wait for the next one!

absolutely love the thought provoking analysis you give us, can’t wait to see what you say about ep 51

This is why MGSV is my favorite game ever. It REQUIRES multiple play-throughs to pick up on the smallest of details that can easily be missed. Great video, as always🤘🏼Can't wait for the next entry!

I wonder if Ishmael represents your still shattered mind. Big Boss and the Medic are both inside your head, you haven't fully integrated Big Boss as your core identity yet but still have access to his skillset and personality through the hypnosis, and it is manifesting as a visual hallucination of your alter personality.

this is easily the best analysis of MGS on youtube, thank you so much for always uploading

The point you made about the walls with doctors degrees and such. It's a hospital full of doctors and nurses. I think it only makes sense that they would have them on display.

Exactly at 19:10 you can see Ishmael hidden in the room he pulls you

thanks for the video @Futurasound Productions , looking forward for the next

Everybody's Gangstar until Big Boss' horn start growing

These videos are amazing. A lot of neat things I never noticed like the helicopter shot down by Volgin later showing up in the lobby.

I've been waiting for this! Made my day

Great content man. I would have never even thought of all these things

Literally the only videos where I'm constantly rewinding to catch all the info

I cant express how much fun I get from watching this videos, man, loved it, it brings me to tears, this saga is so deep. Keeping it real.

amazing work as always Jorin. I hadn't picked up the XOF members exterminating the hospital to ensure BB is dead. Thanks for that.

Venom snake had a dislocated elbow. With dislocations, the pain is much worse when the joint is set back into its socket.

Always insightful with your MGS stuff.

Great analysis my friend.

These videos are top shelf man. Thanks.

Shining lights even in death We live and die by your order boss😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 When men cried

The idea at the beginning where the patriots use control by using language, and how certain words or phrases makes the unconscious act upon hearing them. It reminded a lot of Bioshock when the main character unknowingly followed orders by the antagonist any time the phrase 'would you kindly' was said. Add to that how you said in mgsv skullface and cipher mightve been doing the same thing with our main character big boss as venom snake. Its a theory that because of Bioshock I can get behind, and that it may play a role here in mgsv.

Something I've never heard brought up is the way Skull Face talks to BB on the heliport in the cut scene before the Skull Face Jeep monologue, where his voice affects Venom's vision. To me, it's very reminiscent of the way Gene in Portable Ops has a voice with special abilities as part of the Successor Program (it's just the Weirding Way from Dune IMO). And in the final battle with Gene, what is one of the side effects of Gene's voice: colors begin to fade and change briefly, not unlike MGSV really. You have to figure as the head of XOF, Skull Face would have had access to technology left over from the Successor Program, esp when you consider the fact that Gene gives BB the assets for his "Army's Heaven" and I imagine the technology that created those powers would be one of the first things Gene would take before launching his insurrection; Gene gives BB the assets and BB almost certainly gave them to Zero after the San Hieronymo Peninsula uprising. After all, what's better than a commander with uncanny speed and psychic powers? A whole unit of soldiers with that power, of course. The super speed Gene shows in PO reminds me of the way the Skulls/Quiet can move faster than the eye can see, their super speed. Or maybe I'm just reading into it? You don't mention PO too often in your analysis, so I'm assuming you don't take it into consideration when writing analysis, but I think if you compare the heliport scene in MGSV and the final battle with Gene in PO you'll see some similarities.

Overthinking is a hell of a drug!

The staggered entry of XOF at the hospital is quite logical, the first strike sent in didn't work (might've seen her falling out of the window on fire), as such the big bad big boss is more dangerous after his coma than they hoped, as such team B is activated, a more lethal approach to eliminate everyone in the hospital and you would've killed snake too, with the man on fire sent in aswell, (probably not completely under Skullface's control yet) it just becomes a giant fustercluck, Ishmael and Ahab blowing through atleast two mechanized platoons is telling enough.

39:50 A little note: "lager" is a russian word for "camp", like "concentration camp" or even "summer camp", so maybe it's not an african word in that segment. Still, your theory makes sense, and your work deserves all the praise.

@supremeworld87

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was definitely using the Russian word since you know, Ocelots russian

Venom Snake smokes an Electronic Ciggarette while the real Big Boss smokes an actual cigar, I never noticed that.

At 29:46 the reverse image of the boss is a symbol for as above, so below.

Nitpicking, their arms aren't breaking, they're being dislocated (with the exception of MGS3). They're then being shown having their joints being set, which is a fix that would only help with dislocation.

Those ''pigs'' under the statue, of which I'm guessing there's four, look a lot more like foxes than pigs to me. Look at those two on the side view, the length and size of the snout is like no pig i've ever seen. Something about it with the horse rearing up above the foxes (if that's what they are) makes me think of a foxhunt, only thing missing is the foxhound. This is my first time really 'seeing' them since this video brought them to my attention, so i'm not certain, I can see the pig in the one facing forward.

@kyriacos87

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@AvianSavara

3 жыл бұрын

In this scenario, I'd say Volgin is the foxhound. Until he is thrown off the scent and goes after Vernom instead of Big Boss.

@sirdanielfortesque5812

3 жыл бұрын

@@AvianSavara Yes dude if the metaphor holds up I think you might be right!

When mantis shows up with Venom's horn, it seems to imply that Venom is controlling him in the moments where Volgin isn't. I also thing Venom creates the distraction that prevents him from being caught during the sequence when he and Ishmael crawl under the hospital bed; he looks forward with a blank face and the noise occurs.

That one dislike must be huey

@indicatexxxx2656

3 жыл бұрын

So true

your channel is great !

I like how half of Cyprus basically just got blown to shit by military people, a fire guy and a literal whale, and it’s never brought up again

@jarlboof

3 жыл бұрын

And the whale wasnt real

loved the first video, can't wait

Dude I love your videos intellectual approach backed up with examples. Very astute.

34:56 Commitment to the max. It didn't need to be the exact same bike, any Triumph would invoke EVA in our memories, but they went a step adhead

This channel is fire! Amazing analysis boss

An element of the penultimate cinematic with Revolver Ocelot and the "real" Big Boss that interests me, is that it appears TPP uses the same character model from GZ for the "real" Big Boss (please correct me if I am wrong on this point). This could be interpreted as symbolising how the "real" Big Boss has been protected from the effects of the previous nine years - owing to his "phantom". Furthermore, the number "9" is significant from a religious perspective, as it has associations with "completeness" and "finality" in multiple world religions, perhaps symbolising the ouroboros you mention. Apologies if either of these two points have already been discussed. Thanks for another video, Boss!

i just love how this is all the basis for liquid ocelot brainwashing himself in MGS 4. he learned it all here / carried it all out here first as a trial. (obviously correct me if i'm wrong my memory is soooo bad due to all the ketamine)

As someone who dislocated his shoulder it goes numb till u pop it back in then it burns super fucking bad

The revelation that Huey invented Vaping I think was the most important takeaway of this

When you mentioned using words to control the "subconcious", it reminded me of the grammar of genocide from Project Itoh's "Genocidal Organ". I wonder if there are any influences from Itoh's work in MGS V, considering the close friendship he had with Kojima...

I find it interesting Tretji Rebenok loses himself in his hosts and carries out *their* will spurned on by their hate. Psycho Mantis said his first psychic experience was from his father, sensing his hate for his own son. He *then* goes onto burn down his town. Was that Mantis? Or his father?

Holy shit, I never noticed how Psycho Mantis changes a little bit every time he links with someone. I only noticed when his mask changed to the mgs1 styled mask during Skullface cutscene

I don’t know if this means anything but if hide with Ishmael where the beds are he and Snake will move in sync to hide from the guards but then again this could be my own brain tricking me into finding signs on if Ishmael actually exist or doesn’t. It’s fascinating to see how V is truly a MGS game but how much it does it on a psychological level and how no matter if you believe Venom to be his own character or not I love that we can see parts of Big Boss’ mind even the morality in a sense. Wonderful video as always I can’t wait for more

I cant wait for your interpretation of mgs2 video review. I know you cant do every thing of one game. But what you told us is very insightful that were just waiting to be cracked open and expand the field of this series.

'Lager' is a German word which also is used in Russian (Ocelot is russian), which can be a camp or a warehouse in German and only a camp in Russian.

This game is one of the best games of all time. The gameplay is nothing but perfect 👌

I also felt it was inconsistent when Ishmael (bandage face man) when he distracted the guards and jumped out of stairs. He just disappeared when guards check on him. Hell his ambulance crash was way more ambiguous when Ishmael was not in driving seat.(which was later explained)

Your content phenomenal, great frking job, you deserve much more praise and subscribers than you're currently getting:)

Btw word Lager is also a Russian word Лагерь, which means camp. Considering he used to be in GRU, he may be using Russian words in this case since he's talking about Miller imprisoned by Soviet Army. So, you know.

Just performed hypnogogia on myself by taking a nap to this video and the hospital one. I could hear this video in parts of my dream.

Is that statue literally the boss or it just looks similar enough to draw a comparison? Stellar work as always ☺

I hadn't seen the piece of wood that mirrors snakes cigar.

7:20 ALSO the doc said bandages aren't because you need them but because they hide you.

Im not sure if you would think this would be worth doing, but I would love a video investigating the various lies and misdirects in the game and try to discern as best as we can what everyone's true motives were

I remember hearing somewhere that in the original draft for the game you were supposed to be Big Boss. He was also supposed to be missing pieces of his fingers on his hand and I even remember in one of the trailers it was Venom in the motorcycle. What's your take on that stuff ? Have you heard of any of it ?

@cezerelecrucio9717

3 жыл бұрын

The trailer showing Venom on the bike is most likely a model swap to prevent people from realizing Big Boss and Venom are two different people

@robertst.pierre1341

2 жыл бұрын

well look at mgs2 trailer Kojima has swapped chars out to keep people guessing

If I had to take a guess, I think the XOF raid into the hospital was Plan B. Plan A was for Quiet to just go in, kill Big Boss and everyone else in the room and then leave. But when she flew out of the window on fire, they went ahead with the full raid. Also, Ishmael is very much an oddity. I'm fairly certain the hospital staff and other patients react to him, but aside from that one time he says he's going to make a distraction and jumps off the stairs the XOF forces never react to him, and even then only one person went to look at where he jumped to.

Love that the most frequent ads I get on this series is Duolingo

We shall watch your videos with great interest ✌

What song was playing in the end credits to this video?

2:38 I've posted this on another video, but during this cutscene with Skull Face, for whatever reason you can still access your cassette player and play any tape in the game over his speech. This is the only scene in the game like this to my knowledge, most of the others restrict your access to the tape player. This strikes me as an odd design choice, it would have had to be done deliberately due to the fact the game uses the same method of removing control from the player as the instances where you cannot use tapes as well.

Awesome, cant wait for more

You analysis are very intriguing, i hope to see collab with Python&Salken.