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Ushakov is a lot like the Mammoth/Apocalypse Tank from the Red Alert games - has an insane survivability rate and durability, can dish out enormous damage, and an intimidating presence on the battlefield... but ultimately isn't a very practical unit against other players that know what they're doing.
@Dualities
Жыл бұрын
oh no i cannot camp and let me team do the work of pushing. so much for strategy
The fire potential is good.
@VoidShepherd
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, secondary build BB's are always fun to play.
@pummychaudhary4755
Жыл бұрын
Giving or taking ?
*secondary build Ushakov* Conqueror and Thunderer: "Greetings good sir!"
@jaywerner8415
Жыл бұрын
Fires a Salvo, "Secandary battery desroyed"
@kolla5415
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for WG to release a Super Conqueror.
@mouth7137
Жыл бұрын
12 457mm guns and a thunderer equivalent with 8 508mm guns
That first salvo you received was actually a citadel, despite being fully angled and Montana not over matching you... I wonder if that is a legitimate weakness with the sloped armor, or a one in a million bug...
@georgeagdgdgwngo4801
Жыл бұрын
Bug
@cphil_2192
Жыл бұрын
It's not a bug, it's the montana shell hitting the turret front and then bouncing down into the citadel from the deck. It happens most often with russian battleships for some reason
@Borzoi-appreciator
Жыл бұрын
@@georgeagdgdgwngo4801 insect
@la_potat6065
Жыл бұрын
Barbette / conning tower citadels. AP shell pens the barbette, but its impact angle is too sharp when it hits the other side of that barbette, so it bounces it down straight into the armour deck below autobounce and goes through for a deck cit. Happens to fully bow on german bbs too at times, especially when its slow USN 406mm AP with steep shell arcs. With that said I've pulled them with Izumo of all things, with its railguns with flat and shallow arcs against fully bow on Iowa's from 15km+ range. Not just once but twice, albeit 4-5 years apart kek. Then there's also NC and Florida, the top half of their bow prows are so flat, flat enough you can pen it with even cruiser AP. Or with BB AP at long range, where it might plunge enough for a frontal cit. I've managed to do one to a fully bow on NC with a Florida, where really the 356mm wouldn't be able to overmatch 32mm of NCs bow.
@simonlind44
Жыл бұрын
@@la_potat6065 You can't citadel the conning tower. That's a common misconception.
I miss playing this game, but the few good things about it just no longer outweigh the bad. Nice to watch your content tho
The russian BB line overall is good, but the tank play style is just not "fun" for me. Ushakov secondaries and AA looked promising for a "different" playstyle. But looks iffy.
Would be nice for WG to have made the Ushakov able to make a secondary build with even marginal viability like the French / Flandre instead of 'World's Fattest Kremlin.'
Hi, PQ! liked you review. I only want to add that BB´s need Radio Location skill back as much as CA need secondary skills again. Greetings!
Tbh, that push into the suicide cage at the start was dope af
I won't be getting any of the super ships, because of the cost involved. Thanks for the review Potato Quality.
Why would you not put fire on your first captain point for a secondary build? That's what they are good for.
The main issue I find with Admiral Ushakov is it's not really an upgrade over Kremlin. You have the same guns, basically the same armor, the same reload, but you have a worse rudder shift, worse turning circle, basically no change in speed, worse concealment. All for the every 3-4 salvos having a single accurate volley of 457mm guns with a max damage of 130,500 damage if every shell hits and scores a citadel. Compare that to even Patrie with no gimmick and the same base sigma but a far better dispersion pattern, where you have a possible max damage per salvo of 174,000 with just natively better accuracy on your guns giving you far more consistency in your salvos. If we compare it to Satsuma it's even worse, seeing as Satsuma has basically Yamato DPM with the same super accuracy buff and a 20k increase in damage per salvo over Ushakov having 155,200 max damage and also still having a better base dispersion chart. There is no reason for Admiral Ushakov to be in the game, it does nothing another lower tiered ship doesn't already do, and aside from the gimmick it's just a fat Kremlin with more HP and a lot of downsides compared to it's T10. So far it's the only Supership to be like this, and honestly I'm kind of disappointed by that. Mostly because as a tank it's still not doing that much better than most T10 Battleships are able if played in that role, 2-3mill potential damage should be the norm if you are playing with the idea of tanking. For Admiral Ushakov to be considered good at tanking in my mind it would need to at least be pulling off 3-4mill commonly, and it just can't. The only thing the ship is good for is being a large hp piñata for HE spammers to burn down.
when I see this ship I automatically hear "I am heavy weapons guy" in my head
How's the accuracy on this ship??? 🤔
Greetings from Monty :) It was a nice game :)
What was the M. Immelmann doing?
wait am i seeing things or did that monty cit you while you are bow on at the start of the video? the heal mod shows 3578 while you took 17955 dmg. only 20% healable hp. nice bug.
@elcamino77777
Жыл бұрын
I was on the Monty and I was suprised as well :)
I bought ushakov today. Tanky and main gun build didnt work.Because carriers spotted me all the time. Air detectibilty is 13 km this ship in best possible and you are big target. İ cannot even reach 100k damage. Then i tried secondory build. And it worked. I reach 200k damage and more comfortable when ı pushed. He has 135k heal. Much more effectice when you pushing and secondary build.
30% better accuracy gimmick makes it almost as accurate as a normal ship. nice.... a danger with having this ship on your team is if a player chooses this ship, and they are not extremely good at decision making, then they will likely overextend early, get focused, and just die. fire spammers don't care about armor or hp pool. larger hp pool = more damage per fire. this thing is preferred food for fire starting ships. a marceau, daring, sherman, hagumaru, kita, wooster, smokensk, etc.... any of these ships can farm this thing out by themselves. but they won't be by themselves because others will be trying to suckle off your gigantic hp teat as well. imagine trying to actually hit a marceau at 12km with this ship.
@VoidShepherd
Жыл бұрын
I don't mind battleships but in my opinion the current meta is like watching paint dry. So, they really aren't my thing right now.
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
Жыл бұрын
Unless its Yoshino or thunkek... Don't bother spam he to Russian BB. Just look at its armor thicc ness
@randalhuffman8827
Жыл бұрын
Yea, this was designed for a game style that dosent exist anymore. Why be bored with up close brawling when you can sip your favorite beverage while parked on the edges of the map and snipe...... Yea... The fun is not there much anymore.
@comradevlad7459
Жыл бұрын
"Imagine trying to actually hit a marceau at 12 km with this ship" imagine hitting a marceau with any bb at 12 km
@TheFuzzypuddle
Жыл бұрын
@@comradevlad7459 lol...good point
The secondary smolensk turrets are actually viable in the nakhimov with a secondary build. MAYBEEEE you could try playing it and play agressive to get both the plane rotation insane and get use of the secondaries
@johnbenoy7532
Жыл бұрын
Lol, the most broken ship in game has better secondaries than than a battleship. Ya, why am I not surprised?
@jaywerner8415
Жыл бұрын
@@johnbenoy7532 so do the German carriers. Let that sink in for a momeny.
@johnbenoy7532
Жыл бұрын
@@jaywerner8415 at least the German battleships are better than it. And secondaries are the German gimik.
@jaywerner8415
Жыл бұрын
@@johnbenoy7532 And the Carrier secondaries are apparently even better. Or at least the Graff Zeppelins are.
@johnbenoy7532
Жыл бұрын
@@jaywerner8415 while the zepplins secondaries are good ( iv gotten 127 k out of just secondaries), they are nothing compared to the Schlieffen secondaries.
BTW, the correct way to say it is "Oooh-Shakov" the letter is an Oooh sound, like yahoo ... not You-Shakov of course no hate or anything, love your videos, just as a native russian speaker, it hurts 😆
i feel like youd have a bit of a better time if you didnt over angle. People obvs know that they cant go through the nose when youre noise in, so they go for the super structure, maybe open up a bit more to bait people in to going for your belt? Tho that wont really fix the trash guns xD
the first hit on the structure is a citadel....can't heal up any....insane bug
@donekek6122
Жыл бұрын
Ye you can see the citadel animation. The gunnery in this game gets worse each uptdate i swear to god and the devs will just ignore it and pretend it works fine :(
I had so many terrible games yesterday where i was frustrated with RNG and superships/ being bottom tier with MM. Its times like these where i bring out my Thunderer. For me it's basically a supership/T11 version of the Conqueror and i can always rely on it. But even then it can be boring depending on the game with blowouts and stuff. Ended up in the 3rd game shown here and what a boring experience that one was. Instantly switched to another game afterwards.
@williamturner7131
Жыл бұрын
Ironically, A) Thunderer actually is worse than Conquerer. Better fire chance and larger calibre, but Conquerer has super heal, and greater volume of guns. And Conq still has 50% fire chance. Thunderer is just incredibly annoying because Thunderer players are, on average, more likely to be so far from the battle to impact the battle in any immediate way. And B) DDs are generally more reliable against your average SS. I'd rather run the USS Black instead of the HMS Thunderer/Conquerer against a bunch of SS
btw first montana shot was a citadel
I converted my Ushakov to full secondary build and immediately had the best game ever.
thanks for doing this so i dont have to :D
0:03 I think that's a citadel
Try secondary satsuma
Weird how the ship has a huge bootay that could fit a fourth turret but… it doesn’t.
Hybrid build next time?
LMAO 0:04 random citadel, nice bug WG
Laughs in Alaska, in my opinion a lot of the "Super ships" aren't really all that good.
@alessiobubbles5345
Жыл бұрын
Wait until glorious Admiral Ushakov blasts you into oblivion from 20km with combat instructions, URAAAA
@VoidShepherd
Жыл бұрын
@@alessiobubbles5345 Admiral Ushakov looks like it maybe fun to play at times but I never really see any super ship do well.
@danh7411
Жыл бұрын
because none of the superships are actually as good as people make them out to be outside of the CVs and Satsuma/Conde
@VoidShepherd
Жыл бұрын
@@danh7411 Yeah, honestly those are the only 2 super ships I would play.
@dzello
Жыл бұрын
@@danh7411 Honestly, I own Yamagiri and I got it super unicum without trying so I find superships to be extremely powerful. I'm getting United States soon and I don't doubt I'll be able to get it above 70% winrate easily. Ushakov and Clausewitz are the only one I would actually consider to not be that good.
Those secondarys are glorified confetti poppers
@benjamingasaway9882
Жыл бұрын
As is they threaten most destroyers and are there to start fires against bigger targets they need ifhe to threaten cruisers and even then it matters where you hit.
2:27 What in the actual fuck
Honestly its odd it still gets nerfed Kremlin 1373kg AP at 800m/s. At least let it fire the pre-nerf 1580kg Kremlin shells at 850m/s, if the P24 457mm 55cal firing 1720KG SHS at 820m/s is too much. I was hoping a funny super slava with record breaking long range AP pen, but the only thing that was retained was the gun accuracy that occurs once every 5 iffy salvoes. Sec build seems interesting tho, but it might just be another free farm pinata if its gun accuracy is that wack. I wonder if the former concept of a super slava will be pushed onto some future premium instead.
I'm not sure you can complain about 21.5k secondary damage and 14.5k fire damage!
Very confusing and contradictory. For all the negatives you brought out in this review and constant frustration plus panning the ship in the original video I don't understand how you still recommend it ("I would recommend this ship overall, though...').
This ship needed to have at least 2 extra smolensk turrets each side to be a decent sec BB.
Hey PQ, i think that monty salvo was a citadel..... somehow. gunnery in 2022 i guess.
@matthewyang7893
Жыл бұрын
maybe it armed on the conning tower
@comradevlad7459
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewyang7893 nah shells landed too forward. Maybe it somehow ricocheted down into the cit off the barbettes. Kinda like the old yamato smokestack cit. or it could be a outright bug
@matthewyang7893
Жыл бұрын
@@comradevlad7459 The shell did impact the barbette, but I am not really sure how it would ricochet down like that, since the barbette is circular shaped. A more probable thing I believe is maybe a shell just bugged out because I think there is zero chance a shell could ricochet like such, and it would also probably be an autoricochet deck as well
@comradevlad7459
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewyang7893 there used to be a bug where even small caliber ap could citadel yamato. if the smokestack was hit at the right angle it would ricochet down into the citadel. It was patched out a while ago I think. Flamu has a vid where he tests it using I think either a Kleber or a Marceau. Could be same thing here since shell could ricochet down if it hit the barrette at a steep enough angle, which is more possible with Monty’s greater shell arcs
@matthewyang7893
Жыл бұрын
@@comradevlad7459 more possibly but incredibly lucky still
The Russian bb line is crap, you have good armor but they still take so much dmg, and the guns just make me mad.
@seraphis
Жыл бұрын
They are a line that appears really strong when your opponent knows nothing about how to damage you.
@TheL0vecake
Жыл бұрын
@@seraphis I 100% agree with you on that.
@azogdefiler25
Жыл бұрын
"Crap" yeah.......Sinop and Vladivostok especially
@TheL0vecake
Жыл бұрын
@@azogdefiler25 The way T-10 is these days i put the worst in terms of the most frustrating to play for me is the Kremlin, it eats shit and can't hit anything even at close range.
@mkgaming990
Жыл бұрын
It's frustrating to play Russian BBs well thanks to our community who desperately wanted to nerf GK and Kremlin and they got what it wanted Now Kremlin is such crap that the dispersion on the ship makes me cry to play even republic has some good sigma of 2.0 and very fast Hard hitting shells with 20 seconds reload I love playing republic I can HE spam and punish the broadside crusiers with ease of 30 mm overmatch
135 k hp pool way overpowered
@mkgaming990
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, I am laughing at your Commet because there are HE spammers and many ships which will just shrugs off the HP
" I want a ship that can do damage " looks at damage in clips. you are playing a ship that does damage. what you want is a ship that can do massive damage in one salvo.
Potato, please check the enhanced secondary battery booster we have on console, yall on pc should have that as well, its a consumable that grant us: 30s(base) of: 100% better accuracy 50% dispersion 50% shell grouping. For secondaries. There is perk called "properly meticulous" that gives us +15% better secondary reload and +20% enhanced secondary battery booster active time. And damn if you check my channel there is a 30 sec video on my italian bb full secondary build, melting a gadjha mada in 5 secs secondaries only.
@skunky1-1
Жыл бұрын
Pc doesn't have that consumable.
Your saying you are not a fan but maybe you should try a main build before not liking the ship. You have a tendency to play very aggressive and push with battleships and they are (as I've said in your other videos) ships that are better utilized farther back, sniping. You build the main guns and go to work!
You should get the hand of stalin legendary mod. They giude you shells to every citadel in the game. Then it is a god tier ship
may as well play ohio over this
Accuracy build, wtf is this u speak of. Other than equipment how can u build it different
The ship is trash, the game is trash. Show wargamming your tired of it and stop playing.
It is shameful what they did with this ship. Same guns as kremlin..... Bad secondaries.. But, when everyone cries about russian ships being op..... I am surprised they didnt reduce gun size and give it paper armor just to stop crying....... What a shame