Second Dark Age feat. Alan Moore | Chapo Trap House | Episode 322
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We're joined by legendary author Alan Moore to discuss evil architecture, magic & political power, fate & free will, and the enduring appeal of Lovecraft.
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I've been saying that our understanding of climate change is basically the Eldritch truth of our time, and I think HP Lovecraft absolutely nailed what people's reaction to that would be. I think Lovecraftian cosmic horror has at once never been so relevant, nor so redundant.
@mattb6616
4 жыл бұрын
pretty sure ive seen this analogy on reddit and 4chan. and for that matter trump is like denethor steward of gondor who was corrupted and fell etc eetc etc
Alan Moore is an international treasure.
@adam_dangelo
4 жыл бұрын
*interdimensional treasure
As expected of Alan Moore, creative, original, and completely mad.
Will is hands down one of the best interviewers in the business. That was one hell of an on-ramp to help Moore to engage at one hell of a pleasantly granular level.
@Bakkland
5 ай бұрын
absolutely, i keep coming back to this interview
Are you sure this isn’t just Felix doing a voice
50:09 "I remain optimistic. Chiefly, because there's no point in being anything else."
@charles167
4 жыл бұрын
Numbers
Jerusalem is a life changing work, and this is one of the better AM interviews available. Great job.
@FinneySP
3 жыл бұрын
Been meaning to read that
Can't wait for the boys to start doing podcasts on the esoteric occult
@mattb6616
4 жыл бұрын
cant wait for alan moore to finish the moon and serpent bumper book of magic that was supposd to come out 20 years ago
@justwatching1980
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattb6616 it's been coming soon for 20 years.
This was absolutely amazing.
I thought this was troll or a different alan moore at first
Dude i had no idea you guys scored an interview with Alan Moore. And the hawkmoor church story. Jesus its frightening.
You can hear Moore's beard when he talks it's funny
Alan Moore's rhetoric is at least as coherent and likely far more coherent than any argument that capitalism is the "natural state" of human organization.
This was the Alan Moore I was thinking of, but not expecting. I love it.
This is a crowning achievement in the podcast medium.
There's some Adorno in here in the way Moore talks about the transition of culture through the renaissance that I like quite a lot.
Personally I find predeterminism comforting and empowering, but the idea of having to experience my life over and over ad infinitum absolutely horrifying like nothing else. Anyways always good to hear from Moore.
@jesse1617
4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, how is it that you find it empowering? I would assume the opposite, seeing that it would entail that every occurence in your life would be something that happens to you rather than something that YOU make happen. I think that predeterminism does away with CHOICE, or the POWER of choice-----the power to affect the world around you. Wouldn't you agree?
@Painocus
4 жыл бұрын
@@jesse1617: The fact that in any given situation there is only one choice I would ultimatly make keeps me from being consumed by the what-ifs, and empower me to actually do something rather then going for the safer option (like doing nothing or just going along with the people around me), that would mean my "choices" would have less effect on the world around me, becouse I'm too scared of making the wrong choice.
Wow thanks for the existential crisis
I did a double take on that title. Awesome.
I see Alan Moore, I click. Great interview. I really wish Moore hadn’t left the main stream.
death is watching, the cat is listening, and the train goes on forever
I understood all of this and it made perfect sense to me.
@alpharoo2581
Жыл бұрын
I haven't to this yet but I'm guessing they say one of these -clandestine -transcendental -voyeuristic -chauvinist -neo-liberal -neo-classical -neo-marxist
Wow! I had assumed it was a different Alan Moore.
Hawksmoor is a great novel. I hadn't known it tied-in to From Helll, or that Nicholas Hawksmoor was a historical personage. Moore's description of the crypt was very creepy, similar to what is depicted in the film As Above, So Below.
The second I saw Alan Moore in the title my weenie became big weenie
@nothing-2-live-4
Жыл бұрын
i’m gay
Getting stoned before listening to this was a good choice, perhaps it was fated
@businessofrhythm2315
29 күн бұрын
Lol weed dooood
My favorite episode of 2019
2 minutes in: Wait, is this real? I had no idea this existed!
This is some primo uncut ketamine communism, I approve.
OINSTOIN
Good ,new stuff from Mr Moore.
Alan Moore is a living legend
I am definitely buying Jerusalem now, great interview Bois!
"The greatest weight.-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!" Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal? " Nietzsche - The Gay Science
Fascinating person
Well...this descended quickly. Thankfully.
Damn, he even goes into Julian Jaynes territory
32:44. Profound.
Alan Moore is my god
I love checking out Chapo references. HENRY DARGER!
yeah, this.
im so glad i was smoking weed when this one popped up.
Great interview. I remember listening to this maybe a couple of years ago - when was the original air date?
@raycar1165
4 жыл бұрын
6/10/19
3:28
I’m half sure I’m plagiarising a comment I read when this pod came out but I can’t listen to Alan talk to Will without thinking it’s actually Felix doing a bit.
magic always includes some kind of transformation which is why i think comedians who turn tragedy into comedy are of shamanic origin.
How dare you people :
32:44
@seanankerr2864
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the exact part I was looking for!
Anyone here from the "c.o.v.I.D A.I" sermon by that one preacher?
Will they talk about the demdebate?
Who has finished his book Jerusalem? I've certainly tried.
@theprettiestfnord2399
4 жыл бұрын
I was enjoying it immensely but then started another addiction cycle at the Lucia chapter where it goes full Joycean mindfuq and was unable to continue. It's still on my floor among the garbage and when my personal Ash-Moseses permit me I will eventually finish the bastard. I find I relate a little bit to EVERYONE except maybe Mick. Want badly to be Alma but really am closer to Marla and Benedict lmfao like complete trainwreck over here
@warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Read it when it came out, took well over a month, but one of the best things he's written in years!
@dominic9983
2 жыл бұрын
Read it over a summer. Not sure I rate it particularly highly as literature but it abounds in interesting ideas.
I'm somewhat confused by this episode ...
I think American libertarianism is inherently different from Egoism in the Stirnerist sense in that Anarcho Capitalism is fundementaly about property ownership and Egoist anarchy explicitly looks to abolish property. In other words, egoism ViOlatEs tHe nAP
why no views squad>>??
hearing americans come into contact with a really thick brummie accent will never not be funny
@zackalden6447
3 жыл бұрын
Brummie? dude's born and raised in Northampton, east midlands, not Birmingham
@dominicking8089
3 жыл бұрын
@@zackalden6447 same thing
@adamsmith307
3 жыл бұрын
@@dominicking8089 er not the same thing at all
jk
Anybody else here can’t stand grant Morrison?
@monsignorerasmus.6441
3 жыл бұрын
He's okay not a fan but have read some of his stuff.
@hewhohasnoname
3 жыл бұрын
No
@bobjohnson7148
2 жыл бұрын
I liked their Animal Man story about the Wile E. Coyote character stuck in the real world
@dominic9983
2 жыл бұрын
No the Invisibles rocks
@chromaticfrog7407
2 жыл бұрын
He’s ok
post cringe
Marxism is a religion you dorks
@chromaticfrog7407
2 жыл бұрын
ewww. an npc.
@olivercoulter260
Жыл бұрын
Wow hotake! Care to elaborate?
@alpharoo2581
Жыл бұрын
Everything is a religion
Truly the worst episode since the one with brandon wardell
@hewhohasnoname
3 жыл бұрын
Wh….what?
@samir6047
7 ай бұрын
Damn you're so cool and edgy dude.
The Alan Moore part is hands down the most boring thing Ive ever experienced.
@soblackismyself
4 жыл бұрын
And you will relive that experience for all of eternity.
@julymagnus493
4 жыл бұрын
@@soblackismyself Living through 5 seconds is pretty much the same as eternity. I just found out that the "Alan Moore part" was actually the whole thing.
@sigmasix3719
4 жыл бұрын
Heretical Hershey define what you mean when you use the term boring I’m intrigued. Did you really come to this conclusion in five seconds? You may be evidence of a parallel reality interacting incompatibly with others. There is what could be considered a boring aspect to the tone of the human voice in general.
@julymagnus493
4 жыл бұрын
@@sigmasix3719 Nope, just uninteresting talk about a church. My definition of "boring" is basically that: uninteresting. I think it was about a church, I was busy trying not to fall asleep.
@sigmasix3719
4 жыл бұрын
Heretical Hershey actually you are right having heard the whole thing it was my god boring and that drawn out monotone slow explanation thing doesn’t work as ...... the church thing wasn’t very interesting and not worth the listen.