Second Dark Age feat. Alan Moore | Chapo Trap House | Episode 322

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We're joined by legendary author Alan Moore to discuss evil architecture, magic & political power, fate & free will, and the enduring appeal of Lovecraft.
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  • @wh8787
    @wh87874 жыл бұрын

    I've been saying that our understanding of climate change is basically the Eldritch truth of our time, and I think HP Lovecraft absolutely nailed what people's reaction to that would be. I think Lovecraftian cosmic horror has at once never been so relevant, nor so redundant.

  • @mattb6616

    @mattb6616

    4 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure ive seen this analogy on reddit and 4chan. and for that matter trump is like denethor steward of gondor who was corrupted and fell etc eetc etc

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum4 жыл бұрын

    Alan Moore is an international treasure.

  • @adam_dangelo

    @adam_dangelo

    4 жыл бұрын

    *interdimensional treasure

  • @Silkbandito
    @Silkbandito4 жыл бұрын

    As expected of Alan Moore, creative, original, and completely mad.

  • @wafflepoet5437
    @wafflepoet54375 ай бұрын

    Will is hands down one of the best interviewers in the business. That was one hell of an on-ramp to help Moore to engage at one hell of a pleasantly granular level.

  • @Bakkland

    @Bakkland

    5 ай бұрын

    absolutely, i keep coming back to this interview

  • @RugbyRyan
    @RugbyRyan3 жыл бұрын

    Are you sure this isn’t just Felix doing a voice

  • @saintriot
    @saintriot4 жыл бұрын

    50:09 "I remain optimistic. Chiefly, because there's no point in being anything else."

  • @charles167

    @charles167

    4 жыл бұрын

    Numbers

  • @legzdiamond2356
    @legzdiamond23564 жыл бұрын

    Jerusalem is a life changing work, and this is one of the better AM interviews available. Great job.

  • @FinneySP

    @FinneySP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Been meaning to read that

  • @jeffm3283
    @jeffm32834 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the boys to start doing podcasts on the esoteric occult

  • @mattb6616

    @mattb6616

    4 жыл бұрын

    cant wait for alan moore to finish the moon and serpent bumper book of magic that was supposd to come out 20 years ago

  • @justwatching1980

    @justwatching1980

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattb6616 it's been coming soon for 20 years.

  • @demolition_lovers
    @demolition_lovers4 жыл бұрын

    This was absolutely amazing.

  • @chidorirasenganz
    @chidorirasenganz4 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was troll or a different alan moore at first

  • @monsignorerasmus.6441
    @monsignorerasmus.64413 жыл бұрын

    Dude i had no idea you guys scored an interview with Alan Moore. And the hawkmoor church story. Jesus its frightening.

  • @noamvancutsem5835
    @noamvancutsem58354 жыл бұрын

    You can hear Moore's beard when he talks it's funny

  • @johanstefonski401
    @johanstefonski4012 жыл бұрын

    Alan Moore's rhetoric is at least as coherent and likely far more coherent than any argument that capitalism is the "natural state" of human organization.

  • @plutarchtheoligarch1657
    @plutarchtheoligarch16574 жыл бұрын

    This was the Alan Moore I was thinking of, but not expecting. I love it.

  • @Agonisteez
    @Agonisteez2 жыл бұрын

    This is a crowning achievement in the podcast medium.

  • @CH4R10T_TV
    @CH4R10T_TV3 жыл бұрын

    There's some Adorno in here in the way Moore talks about the transition of culture through the renaissance that I like quite a lot.

  • @Painocus
    @Painocus4 жыл бұрын

    Personally I find predeterminism comforting and empowering, but the idea of having to experience my life over and over ad infinitum absolutely horrifying like nothing else. Anyways always good to hear from Moore.

  • @jesse1617

    @jesse1617

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, how is it that you find it empowering? I would assume the opposite, seeing that it would entail that every occurence in your life would be something that happens to you rather than something that YOU make happen. I think that predeterminism does away with CHOICE, or the POWER of choice-----the power to affect the world around you. Wouldn't you agree?

  • @Painocus

    @Painocus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jesse1617: The fact that in any given situation there is only one choice I would ultimatly make keeps me from being consumed by the what-ifs, and empower me to actually do something rather then going for the safer option (like doing nothing or just going along with the people around me), that would mean my "choices" would have less effect on the world around me, becouse I'm too scared of making the wrong choice.

  • @MadRedAlchemist
    @MadRedAlchemist4 жыл бұрын

    Wow thanks for the existential crisis

  • @Alex.R.L
    @Alex.R.L3 жыл бұрын

    I did a double take on that title. Awesome.

  • @johnnieriot13
    @johnnieriot133 жыл бұрын

    I see Alan Moore, I click. Great interview. I really wish Moore hadn’t left the main stream.

  • @quonomonna8126
    @quonomonna81263 жыл бұрын

    death is watching, the cat is listening, and the train goes on forever

  • @JayYossarian
    @JayYossarian Жыл бұрын

    I understood all of this and it made perfect sense to me.

  • @alpharoo2581

    @alpharoo2581

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't to this yet but I'm guessing they say one of these -clandestine -transcendental -voyeuristic -chauvinist -neo-liberal -neo-classical -neo-marxist

  • @aqualitymagentachickenmask3298
    @aqualitymagentachickenmask32984 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I had assumed it was a different Alan Moore.

  • @shannonm.townsend1232
    @shannonm.townsend1232 Жыл бұрын

    Hawksmoor is a great novel. I hadn't known it tied-in to From Helll, or that Nicholas Hawksmoor was a historical personage. Moore's description of the crypt was very creepy, similar to what is depicted in the film As Above, So Below.

  • @muttipi
    @muttipi4 жыл бұрын

    The second I saw Alan Moore in the title my weenie became big weenie

  • @nothing-2-live-4

    @nothing-2-live-4

    Жыл бұрын

    i’m gay

  • @duncanself5111
    @duncanself5111Ай бұрын

    Getting stoned before listening to this was a good choice, perhaps it was fated

  • @businessofrhythm2315

    @businessofrhythm2315

    29 күн бұрын

    Lol weed dooood

  • @MilesBont
    @MilesBont4 жыл бұрын

    My favorite episode of 2019

  • @peterkrucker7394
    @peterkrucker73943 жыл бұрын

    2 minutes in: Wait, is this real? I had no idea this existed!

  • @TheCyborgk
    @TheCyborgk4 жыл бұрын

    This is some primo uncut ketamine communism, I approve.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 Жыл бұрын

    OINSTOIN

  • @sigmasix3719
    @sigmasix37194 жыл бұрын

    Good ,new stuff from Mr Moore.

  • @devilsadvocacypress3151
    @devilsadvocacypress31512 жыл бұрын

    Alan Moore is a living legend

  • @sydberetta4649
    @sydberetta46494 жыл бұрын

    I am definitely buying Jerusalem now, great interview Bois!

  • @ElectricChaplain
    @ElectricChaplain4 жыл бұрын

    "The greatest weight.-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!" Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal? " Nietzsche - The Gay Science

  • @jamesbromfield9070
    @jamesbromfield90703 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating person

  • @landryprichard6778
    @landryprichard67784 жыл бұрын

    Well...this descended quickly. Thankfully.

  • @shannonm.townsend1232
    @shannonm.townsend1232 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, he even goes into Julian Jaynes territory

  • @landryprichard6778
    @landryprichard67784 жыл бұрын

    32:44. Profound.

  • @thepulp80s
    @thepulp80s4 жыл бұрын

    Alan Moore is my god

  • @patrickcronin1500
    @patrickcronin15004 жыл бұрын

    I love checking out Chapo references. HENRY DARGER!

  • @quester09
    @quester094 жыл бұрын

    yeah, this.

  • @YourRealBestFriend
    @YourRealBestFriend4 жыл бұрын

    im so glad i was smoking weed when this one popped up.

  • @Rackhamish
    @Rackhamish4 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. I remember listening to this maybe a couple of years ago - when was the original air date?

  • @raycar1165

    @raycar1165

    4 жыл бұрын

    6/10/19

  • @jacoblevenson7934
    @jacoblevenson7934 Жыл бұрын

    3:28

  • @jmacdon4
    @jmacdon4Ай бұрын

    I’m half sure I’m plagiarising a comment I read when this pod came out but I can’t listen to Alan talk to Will without thinking it’s actually Felix doing a bit.

  • @blackbird5634
    @blackbird56343 жыл бұрын

    magic always includes some kind of transformation which is why i think comedians who turn tragedy into comedy are of shamanic origin.

  • @jordanallen3078
    @jordanallen30784 жыл бұрын

    How dare you people :

  • @alexsherman5997
    @alexsherman59974 жыл бұрын

    32:44

  • @seanankerr2864

    @seanankerr2864

    4 жыл бұрын

    Literally the exact part I was looking for!

  • @Toxicstrike91
    @Toxicstrike914 жыл бұрын

    Anyone here from the "c.o.v.I.D A.I" sermon by that one preacher?

  • @jamesa.646
    @jamesa.6464 жыл бұрын

    Will they talk about the demdebate?

  • @TheTodsBread
    @TheTodsBread4 жыл бұрын

    Who has finished his book Jerusalem? I've certainly tried.

  • @theprettiestfnord2399

    @theprettiestfnord2399

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was enjoying it immensely but then started another addiction cycle at the Lucia chapter where it goes full Joycean mindfuq and was unable to continue. It's still on my floor among the garbage and when my personal Ash-Moseses permit me I will eventually finish the bastard. I find I relate a little bit to EVERYONE except maybe Mick. Want badly to be Alma but really am closer to Marla and Benedict lmfao like complete trainwreck over here

  • @warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358

    @warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep. Read it when it came out, took well over a month, but one of the best things he's written in years!

  • @dominic9983

    @dominic9983

    2 жыл бұрын

    Read it over a summer. Not sure I rate it particularly highly as literature but it abounds in interesting ideas.

  • @LucasDimoveo
    @LucasDimoveo4 жыл бұрын

    I'm somewhat confused by this episode ...

  • @stevebeach1218
    @stevebeach12184 жыл бұрын

    I think American libertarianism is inherently different from Egoism in the Stirnerist sense in that Anarcho Capitalism is fundementaly about property ownership and Egoist anarchy explicitly looks to abolish property. In other words, egoism ViOlatEs tHe nAP

  • @mobdole
    @mobdole4 жыл бұрын

    why no views squad>>??

  • @dominicking8089
    @dominicking80893 жыл бұрын

    hearing americans come into contact with a really thick brummie accent will never not be funny

  • @zackalden6447

    @zackalden6447

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brummie? dude's born and raised in Northampton, east midlands, not Birmingham

  • @dominicking8089

    @dominicking8089

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zackalden6447 same thing

  • @adamsmith307

    @adamsmith307

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dominicking8089 er not the same thing at all

  • @mobdole
    @mobdole4 жыл бұрын

    jk

  • @FinneySP
    @FinneySP3 жыл бұрын

    Anybody else here can’t stand grant Morrison?

  • @monsignorerasmus.6441

    @monsignorerasmus.6441

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's okay not a fan but have read some of his stuff.

  • @hewhohasnoname

    @hewhohasnoname

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @bobjohnson7148

    @bobjohnson7148

    2 жыл бұрын

    I liked their Animal Man story about the Wile E. Coyote character stuck in the real world

  • @dominic9983

    @dominic9983

    2 жыл бұрын

    No the Invisibles rocks

  • @chromaticfrog7407

    @chromaticfrog7407

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s ok

  • @ricmahurin7535
    @ricmahurin75354 жыл бұрын

    post cringe

  • @cornerstore_d
    @cornerstore_d2 жыл бұрын

    Marxism is a religion you dorks

  • @chromaticfrog7407

    @chromaticfrog7407

    2 жыл бұрын

    ewww. an npc.

  • @olivercoulter260

    @olivercoulter260

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow hotake! Care to elaborate?

  • @alpharoo2581

    @alpharoo2581

    Жыл бұрын

    Everything is a religion

  • @ayeball2
    @ayeball23 жыл бұрын

    Truly the worst episode since the one with brandon wardell

  • @hewhohasnoname

    @hewhohasnoname

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wh….what?

  • @samir6047

    @samir6047

    7 ай бұрын

    Damn you're so cool and edgy dude.

  • @julymagnus493
    @julymagnus4934 жыл бұрын

    The Alan Moore part is hands down the most boring thing Ive ever experienced.

  • @soblackismyself

    @soblackismyself

    4 жыл бұрын

    And you will relive that experience for all of eternity.

  • @julymagnus493

    @julymagnus493

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@soblackismyself Living through 5 seconds is pretty much the same as eternity. I just found out that the "Alan Moore part" was actually the whole thing.

  • @sigmasix3719

    @sigmasix3719

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heretical Hershey define what you mean when you use the term boring I’m intrigued. Did you really come to this conclusion in five seconds? You may be evidence of a parallel reality interacting incompatibly with others. There is what could be considered a boring aspect to the tone of the human voice in general.

  • @julymagnus493

    @julymagnus493

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sigmasix3719 Nope, just uninteresting talk about a church. My definition of "boring" is basically that: uninteresting. I think it was about a church, I was busy trying not to fall asleep.

  • @sigmasix3719

    @sigmasix3719

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heretical Hershey actually you are right having heard the whole thing it was my god boring and that drawn out monotone slow explanation thing doesn’t work as ...... the church thing wasn’t very interesting and not worth the listen.