It is theorized that the Griffin started with the discovery of a ceratopsian skull somewhere on the steppe, so that could have inspired the later daggers

@Boric78

7 ай бұрын

I have heard /seen that before. An old History Channel doc ? - perhaps dealing with either the silk road or Alexander in the east. There is a hillside near the Gobi desert (or in it) , on the edge of steppe, where thousands of these type of dinosaur fossils are coming out from the hillside, due to weather erosion. Nomads would have seen this / heard of it. Some experts believe that is where the legend of the Griffin comes from. Seems logical to me - just as Mammoth skulls with the central hole for the trunk are perhaps the origin of the Cyclops legend.

@hondacbrification

7 ай бұрын

Turul-Turan Hungarian bird is the same as AnZu bird which in some cases it’s depicted as Dove with some Griffin attributes or a crowned griffin vulture.

Interesting video really enjoying this series on the Scythian world.

@TheFallofRome

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

And that goes for most of "Scythian" culture. It was more likely west to east, and if you go back far enough they and the Keltoi were the same people. The elusive "Indo Europeans".

The bird heads are the same as Odins Ravens that come from his forehead. Many people mistake them for horns, but Odins are the same as on these swords - two birds heads facing each other.

@chrisnewbury3793

7 ай бұрын

That fits the theory that much of Scythian culture started with Odin, otherwise known as Nimrod or Sargon.

@AethelwulfBretwalda

7 ай бұрын

​@@chrisnewbury3793 What...?

@3rdeye671

7 ай бұрын

@@chrisnewbury3793 id say that Odin as a wanderer (nomad herder) and the Aesir Gods are Indo-European peoples that come from the steppe grasslands. Same as the Scythians. Aesir = Asia. The bird motif designates the person as a powerful Shaman able to travel the spirit realms and converse with the Gods. Like Hermes/Mercury with winged heels. To travel in spirit form is symbolic of becoming a bird to fly throughout the spirit realms. Usually dark feathered raptor birds are symbolic as they pick the flesh of the dead and take the soul to the heavens. You can see the Vultures on Gobekli Tepe pillars have human legs. The Shamans wear cloaks of dark feathers to denote their abilities. Like a medicine man of Native American tribes. Odin is known for his power to bring men to a frenzy before battle. Odin is therefore a man, a powerful Shaman, but just a messenger of the Gods, not a God himself.

@chrisnewbury3793

7 ай бұрын

@@3rdeye671 well I never thought he was a god. I'm just referring to "The Oera Linda" which states 'Woden' was a Freyan Sea King who conquered the "Finns/Magyars" then married one of their princesses. Yes they were the Aesir. Some time after I read the book it occurred to me that he had many similarities with Nimrod and Sargon of Akkad. I thought I had an novel theory that they were all the same, but it's not a new idea at all. He's also compared to Mercury and Hermes by many scholars.

@3rdeye671

7 ай бұрын

@@chrisnewbury3793 Gobekli Tepe is dated to 11,500 y.a. the Shamanic Bird motif goes much farther back in time than Odin, before even the Indo-European peoples ventured onto the steppe grasslands, before the Flood of the Younger Dryas even, far, far back in time is the Shamanic bird motif it comes from another species long before us.

Great video.

Fascinating video, as always!

Yeah, griffins!!!!!

Excellent. I actually have a Griffin dagger at home. Been dated to 200 bc . Thanks for this video

New research strongly suggests that Neartherdals wore head dresses like Native americans. Looking back at old Germany sites for them researchers refound alot of eagle claws at/in nearthdal burial sites. feathers are unlikely to survive that long in time in caves/grouns

'Griffin Dagger' Pulp detective.

@wrongfootmcgee

7 ай бұрын

i hear it a bit intense, but i hear it

Were the kindjal and kama daggers evolved from these daggers?

Awesome where can I buy one?

@TheFallofRome

7 ай бұрын

You will actually find them occasionally at private auctions. I don’t know of any auction houses specifically but google should help point you in the right direction

Ok so what does Bi- Metallic mean. Does it mean that two metals were somehow fused together???

What I keep trying to track is what were the dagger styles of the Islamist anatolian, levant, arab and persian peoples of the Mongol and early Ottoman periods. Later on the jambiya becomes the style, but daggers don't seem to be studied for this time period in the near east.

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

7 ай бұрын

Jambya is decended from the roman military dagger.. As is the kindjal.

Interesting, the assyrians babylonians and other ancient near eastern cultures made idols and statutes of griffins

@EsfandiarNokhodaki

7 ай бұрын

In the Southern Iran , in Anicent Persepolis And Pasargadae Cities You Can See A Lot Of Griffin Status Many people think that Griffin is a combination of eagles and lions. But in fact, Griffin is a vulture Which is the holiest bird in Iranian culture and if its shadow falls on you, you will be immortal. Even the Griffin is Emblem of Iran Air

@clarkwinters1770

7 ай бұрын

@@EsfandiarNokhodaki interesting

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They look pictish

lets say hungarian magyar daggers kés= knife in magyar language késes= who has a knife kasza=scythe kaszás= scythians

They look very much like bollock daggers