I almost had a hart attack. I read "scrapping the Bridgeport". Thank goodness Max.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol , no will never happen ! 🤣

@axa.axa.

2 ай бұрын

probably should happen , you see those ways?

Sensacional !!! Uma Plaina Limadora Zocca ( fabricada no Brasil)🇧🇷, aprendi a trabalhar em uma dessa na escola SENAI, referência de ensino em nossa área. Abraços de um Ferramenteiro e filho de Ferramenteiro que amamos esta profissão aqui nol Brasil🇧🇷 e admiramos pessoas igual a você que nos causam inspiração !!!

@swanvalleymachineshop

2 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Very good job MAX

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Good to see you back on YT, Max! Hope the rest of the move goes smooth.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . It's just taking way longer than i thought ! A lot to do though , inc getting our house ready for sale . 👍

Fearless as ever, Max! 👍 Yes, a Bridgeport is easy enough to disassemble in its raw form…it’s those DRO scales and lube lines that cause all the fuss. Thanks for posting.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

I just removed all the Mitutoyo linear scales from the big mill so they would not get damaged . 👍

Return of the Max. Great video 👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . Good to be back ! 👍

thanks for the video max, realy interesting ! cheers ben.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍

Nice progress and excellent camera work Max.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Great scraping video Max. I had a late uncle that did machine scraping at Warner & Swasey in the early 60's thru late 70's he retired. It truly is a lost art in machine tools.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

That it has AL . Cheers . 👍

Good to see you back ! Cheers ! Steve

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries ! 👍

Looking great Max! Great job!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . Any tips greatly appreciated ! Cheers . 👍

@AlmostMachining

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop No tips. I think your approach is spot on. The quality cast should hold up well for years to come. I still owe you a shipment. Be sure the wipers are back on tight. Love your approach.

Good to see you back.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Thanks for posting my channel sticker. Good to see you back in the shop and saving old iron. You do a great job refurbishing old equipment and making it good as new.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries , Cheers . 👍

Nice work on the scraping Max. I'll email you a few pages out of the Strigon Shaper Book for the internal Keyway Tool.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Ok , thanks Graham . Hopefully the opp went well & you introduced them to 680 to hold stuff together ! 👍

The shop is looking really good! You should be proud of your hard work!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

A labour of love ! 👍

Been long over due watching your channel, but thx for the tip you gave Dean in the keyway tool. I will have to keep that in mind once my 450mm Klopp is back restored.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

The workshop is coming along just fine. The drywall and paint, the cabinets, machines in their spaces, Fantastic.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Getting there . Cheers . 👍

I'm entering the Twilight of my career in the Machining industry and it's so enlightening to see a true Craftsman still doing trades work by hand. Well done sir

@swanvalleymachineshop

11 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Max has the potential to be my best / favorite neighbour in our street ........ if He could just get those machines working !!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

One day !!! 👍

A pleasure to view your post. The scraping to a tolerance as Vee...of particular interest as tool and method. Thank you. M.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍

Great to see your doing well and able to spend some time on your machines Max. For me I definitely enjoy working on or with them much more than moving them. Always nice when I see you put out a video. Gary

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary . It was because it was raining , i had enough spare time to make a start on the B.P ! Cheers .

The big mill looks good cleaned up. It looks to have a lot of Y-axis travel. I have a Fexac horizontal mill and at some point in their earlier days they used long leadscrews on the knee that required a hole in the floor. By the time mine was made they had smartened up and were using a two piece telescopic leadscrew and no floor hole was required. When I got it the nut between the two screws was completely stripped out and I had to make a new one out of bronze. Come to think of it my Elliot shaper has a telescopic leadscrew as well. When I first got my Bridgeport clone I broke it down into three pieces and took it down my basement stairs. They are easy to take apart. Ken

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

That mill has great travel on the table , 1000mm . 400 on the cross & 420 on the Z ( according to the manual ) . The manuals for it are full of really detailed info , inc max loads for power feeds . 630kg table rating . Also alot of drawings on internal parts , really mind blowing how detailed the manuals are . The machine has auto & semi auto functions as well . 👍

@hmw-ms3tx

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop Your mention of automatic and semi automatic functions reminded me that the guy I bought my HBM from had a mill with those features as well. I looked through the pictures I took of my HBM when it was in his shop and sure enough that mill is in the background. It looks exactly like yours and I believe his was a Stanko. Along with the overarm vertical milling head it also has one that is driven by the horizontal spindle for really heavy work. They look really heavy and rigid when you stand next to them. I can't wait to see you take some heavy cuts with it. Ken

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

@@hmw-ms3tx I would love to get hold of a 50 taper vert head for it , or one i can modify to fit . The column is drilled & tapped to take one . 👍

G'day Max, Good to see you 👍I'm liking the big green mill ! Thanks for showing and explaining your shaper boring bar, it's on the need to make list. Love the scraping disclaimer, I'm in the same boat but somewhere down in the bulge area...Lol. Nice to see the new shop coming along... Cheers....Dean

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Dean . A dovetail straight edge would make it easier , we shall see how things end up . Worst case scenario , i can put temporary power to that mill soon & machine something up . 👍

Great to see you are doing well Max. I appreciate the functional scraping lesson. 👍👍👍👍

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries , all good here . 👍

G'day Max. Great seeing you on, with a sence of humour as well 😂. Your shop is looking great with all the machines everywhere. I hope you will show us the complete assembly as well as the various adjustments required. For the age of your Bridgeport I think the ways have minimal wear. Watching you scraping, which is a slow repeating process, it gives an insight what goes into Machining besides moving a few handles etc. Still working out which is faster, scraping or cleaning your machine with a Toothbrush 😅😅😅. Keep up the Great work. See you in your next Installment

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Ted . 👍

Hi Max Welcome back. The new shop is looking good. with all those machines there will be nothing you can not make. Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

That's the plan ! Thanks . 👍

Got the move done just in time for winter, eh Max ? I made my scrappers using very-high carbon steel . They worked well 40 years when I had a lot of metal to remove on a very worn, century old surface grinder ... and they still work well today . Professionally, I used carbide power scrappers which yes were faster, but I never saw the need to make the investment for myself .

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . The hydraulic pump veins seem to stand up well & i have a heap of them ! Still a big learning curve is the scraping , but i have a solid plan in place . 👍

G’day mate. Good to see you. Thanks for the video, Have a good one 👍🇦🇺

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Good to see you back mate! New shop is looking great. Fearless conviction, love it! Cheers, Jon

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jon . You have got to do , what you have to do ! Right out of my wheel house , but will certainly be a good learning curve . 👍

Very informative and great to have ya back, Max. Cheers.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob . Cheers .👍

Hi Max, great to see you back, I missed you. No need to go all the way to Queensland mate you are doing a great job on your own. I can guarantee whoever is doing the course wont be able to improve on what you have done here. Best wishes, Mal.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . I think it may be interesting to do though . 👍

Hello Max, Good to see you... I liked seeing the keyway cutter for the shaper and the scraping on the Bridgeport... See you on the next one. Take care. Paul,,

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul . 👍

Pretty deep scoring there Max. Yeah you defiantly need to get a dovetail straightedge and a good plate if you don't already have one. When I did my Bridgey column, I flipped it more than once to measure! Things are looking great in the new shop Max. Cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Yes , have to do it the hard way with no dovetail edge . The dowels will give me the parallel centre line of the dovetail . I have another method also with dowels ,i will use for angle corrections before test fitting the gib & knee . It will be flipped several times ! 👍

@windrk_6754

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop Great to see some scraping! Maybe you could have used the gib to do a little spotting, not having a dovetail edge - could help to point out the local high spots, even though the gib is probably pretty flexible... but your measurements help take care of that. & maybe touch up the gib a little first with the scraper, if you have any sort of surface plate.. Also, if you come across some scrap carbide slitting saws, or other thin wide carbide, can silver solder to something for a scraper (then you just need the means to grind & hone it!).. of course, don't let details like this distract you from getting those machines making chips!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

@@windrk_6754 I do intend , as you mentioned to use the gib as well After i re scrape it flat . Cheers . 👍

Hey Max, good to see you again. FYI, I purchased a 2" Universal vise online. Very cheap for all needed compound angles, will help with your mini vise, keep on Mister!!!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍

Hopefully you can get settled in before winter arrives. Of course you don't get the snow and ice like we do hear.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

That's the plan . I don't want to be moving in winter , we get lot of rain then . That blue milling machine of yours looks like brand new again ! The lad's did a cracking job . 👍

Dear Max, the card did not run out...I really learned some great things from the Video.....thank you very much.....Paul 'Paulie' Brown...looking forward to the next scraping session...

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

It had 1 minute to go ! 👍

Glad to see ya - God bless you Max!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍

G’day Max. That new mill is a real beast mate. I think that new machine vice may exceed the table limit though 😂. Nice work on the scraping, you’re a much braver man than me. Cheers max. Aaron

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Aaron . Did you get to the expo ? 👍

@AaronEngineering

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop yes Max. I went 3 days (Tues-Thurs). Caught up with Matty and Kurtis too. 👍🍻

Great to see a new video. Hope you’re all doing good and the move is not too stressful. Greetings from Amsterdam 👍.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Great to see you again Max. Enjoyed watching the work involved on the mill. It looks like your mill may be an import from the UK by the design of that electric. Cheers Tony

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony . From a Bridgeport dealership in Singapore , that could explain the UK design electrics . 👍

Thanks for sharing 👍 Belive me, I understand the joy of moving.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . Yes , it's a major undertaking ! 👍

Nice work Max, it looks like your direction is correct, each move is closer to perfection. nice technique and a good job for a rainy day, cheers mate!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Gday Max, great to see another video, you’ve definitely been busy, scrapping is something on its own and a lot of patience required which I don’t have, the shaper lead screw setup is the same as the PK Douglas shaper, it’s not that bad on a small machine but shit on a bigger one, great job mate, cheers

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Matty . I will cut the bastard & run a spacer under it before i drill a hole in the floor ! The 6'' high frame should help a lot . 👍

Awesome big mill! Great video Max.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mate . I usually watch your videos on tv & forget to comment . Cheers .👍

Great Video from WA :) I made myself very sick for a week cleaning out a new old mill sump that was a real science project with a crusty mould top and it stunk. If I ever have to do it again I will wear protection and a mask.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Not one of the best jobs , but it has to be done ! I think my Churchill grinder may be the worst ! 👍

Great to see you back on deck Max. Very impressed with the vane for the scraper (hey folks there is only one P in that word) and the amount you're ripping off is impressive. My scrapers (Eclipse) are commercial and I only remove poofteenths with those! I think a trip down to the hydraulics service pozzi is due😊

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . Yes , it surprised me how much it removed ! I have heard it said that a hand scraper can remove material quicker than a power one . 👍

welcome back we love your video's.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . 👍

Missed you Max!! Glad to see you back :)

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries . 👍

Glad they discovered that small scratches from oil stones(honing) was good for engine cylinders, as early attempts with scraping the cylinders wouldn't work out to well. More custom then precision.

@swanvalleymachineshop

7 ай бұрын

Cheers 👍

Good to see you back on YT, hope all things moving is going well . Unusual on a small to medium machine tool (shaper) to need some civil engineering, probably designed to be used on a dirt floor (sorry, being facetious here, Brazil have some good engineers). First step in scraping machine ways, or surfaces, is to think about the geometry , obviously 2D for a flat surface, and 3D for all others. Thanks for sharing Max.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . I am only doing one face of the dovetail , still have to keep it true to the adjacent though . 👍

Enjoyed!!!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck . 👍

i really like your job, i planning on scrapping a planer shapper to convert in grinder for beds of lathes, nice to see your job frome argentina!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . Converting a planer would be an interesting job . 👍

Hey Max, I had a chuckle when you showed the 1" Vice. I brought the same last year as well as a 3" for the Stankoimport T & C.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

I have to grind some acme tools to re cut some feed screws later on , hence the small vice for the t&c grinder !

Now that is a scraper! I have seen shapers that couldn't take off that much material.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

It's a ripper ! I got it from Look Creations in England . Mathew made a few up for sale after the scraping job on his Holbrook lathe , a great series. 👍

@billdoodson4232

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop Many thanks for your comment. I had never come across Matthews channel before, I am now binge watching it. Very detailed and amazing what you can do with minimal equipment. The astonishing thing is he only lives about 30 miles from me.

New shed is looking fantastic Max👍 DJ gave up on social media quite a while ago, I think it was chewing up too much time for him, dunno if he will be back or not. Pity, he is a nice bloke. Cheers mate 🍺

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill . Ok , i was wondering what happened . Last i heard , he had a big swag of grinding wheels to sell . Cheers . 👍

Nice work, I need to do that to a few of my machines but keep just adjusting for it, you have far more patience than I

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

I got sick of adjusting ! The machine still holds reasonable tolerances , just needed some minor attention . 👍

That is indeed a very strange leadscrew setup on the shaper. No idea what they were thinking when they designed it. (probably not thinking very much)

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol . Yes , it's a bit weird . Just think , you would be winding the table down & the machine would start coming up ! 👍

thanks for sharing max

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries ! 👍

Hi Max, my circa 1927 Drummond hand operated Shaper had the screw protruding, had to drill a hole in the workbench!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol . 👍👍👍

@raymondmarteene7047

Жыл бұрын

Ha, mine too.

@windrk_6754

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if one could make a 2- piece nested screw - shorter threaded rod plus a sleeve with the same thread on the OD & ID, running in an even larger nut. This might reduce stick-out underneath .. Maybe this was even offered as an option, for those shops that didn't have dirt floors??

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

@@windrk_6754 I would shorten it & use a spacer block under the nut . 👍

hard as Chinese Algebra as we say in the States

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol 👍

199:00 sounds like two Bullocks peeing on a flat rock outside...

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol 👍

Good stuff Max. Is that scraping Moore pattern, or More pattern? Hard to resist an observation on Brazil, where the nuts come from.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Max pattern ! I can not do Moore pattern on a dovetail angle ! 👍

Thanks for the vid

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

No worries . 👍

Attaboy Max. Let the sweating begin. 😊

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol , Cheers Dan ! 👍

I was wondering where you were. I’m looking at the knee and table behind you, and seeing that “small’ diameter screw under it. I know it’s adequate, but it sure looks too small for that weight.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

The manual says max load of work 600 kg from memory . 👍

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@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers 👍👍👍

Max more videos on the big stanko please

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

I will be doing a series on it , after the Bridgeport & JFMT lathe are back together . 👍

@hwen9483

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvalleymachineshop good stuff mate I’ve followed in your foot steps with a jfmt and big mill (tos)

*_This is interesting but what do you do about the chromed ways on bridgeports? I was told you can't scrape those. Anyway, I know you're busy but if you can, make more vids. You're one of the few on YT I watch._*

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

I guess chrome ways would have to be ground after re chroming maybe . Not sure what the standard practice is with them . Thanks . 👍

Hey Max, was just about to drop you a line to ask you if you had died. Good to see you back but for future reference a quick post or short vid announcing your demise would be greatly appreciated. Also curious about what settings you had in lab during the scraping, with regards to temperature, air pressure and humidity. Cheers man, John 🇨🇦

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Temp , constant 24 Deg C , pissing with rain , no humidity !!! 🤣 I did try to do an update video , but with all the stopping & starting it made it a difficult one . So i thought , bugger it . With all the interruptions it was just easier to start cleaning the big mill ! 👍

Hey Max missed you my friend

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍

What make is your big mill? It looks like it ways 5 tons.!

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Stanko 6T83W . 4 1/4 metric tonnes . 👍

If you still see scrapeing marks it's not worn much,certainly not enough to scrape it.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

The issue is one of the dovetails . The flat areas are still good enough . Bear in mind that the Bridgeport original crescent flaking is very deep & not done on the angled dovetail face . 👍

I broke the Gib on my Bridgeport, the one on the column......not looking forward to trying to fix...best wishes Max, Paul in the other Sunshine State....Florida, USA

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

That's a bummer . Only 2 options there . The one for the cross slide on my JFMT lathe has been broken in half & brazed back together . I need the Bridgeport running so i can correct the miss alignment in one direction . 👍

@markshort9098

Жыл бұрын

My deepest condolences, I'd cry if I broke a gib on mine

25:30 when you take the scraping course, you can go hang out with Kurtis and Karen for a bit......

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

A couple of others over that way to catch up with as well . 👍

Scrape away practice and learn that's what I do

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

The only way ! Cheers . 👍

Fucks sake Maxxy 😂 not seen you for ages and Youturd hasn't shown me your last 2 videos, how you doing there me old mate

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Hey Ralfy , still making headway ... Just ! Busy getting through the long list of jobs to get our old house ready for sale , fuk this handy man shite !

Advance Australia

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Bloody oath ! 🍺🍺🍺

Ahh, yes, I'd give me right arm to be amdidextrous...

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Lol . One of the benefits of being left handed ! 👍

Good to see you back - you need a beveled PGS(Precision Ground Stone) - Once I started using them it changed everything - you can see the high shinny spots - no need for blueing most of the time. See the ones Stephan has here: gtwr.de/wp-content/uploads/IMG_4226.jpg Using large micrometers seems to do a lot with hearing the squeak..

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . I like those stones , something to consider later on . 👍

Another good lesson ! Thanks for the look and time.

@swanvalleymachineshop

Жыл бұрын

Cheers . 👍